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1 September 2013 5563 comments
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With goals a premium from Saturday’s matches, we roll into Sunday with high expectations. Today’s fixtures certainly give us room for optimism.

Proceedings get underway shortly at the Hawthorns and Anfield, where West Brom go in search of their first goal of the season against a Swansea side still looking to get a first point on the board. Alongside that affair, we’ve the small matter of Liverpool’s clash with United – a match that hosts an array of Fantasy talent, not least Robin van Persie, adorning the captain’s armband for many.

Later today, we’re treated to the North London derby. A clash which rarely disappoints when it comes to goals and incidents. It’s fair to say that we’re expecting fireworks again, as Arsenal attempt to keep momentum after the win at Fulham, while Andre Villas-Boas’ side arrive at the Emriates with a 100% record and without a league goal conceded.

The team news from the early kick-offs is in and is as follows:

Liverpool make just one change to the side that edged past Villa in Gameweek 2. Kolo Toure’s failure to recover from a groin injury sustained in midweek allows Martin Skrtel to partner Daniel Agger in central defence as the Reds attempt to register their third successive shut-out of the season.

For United, Wayne Rooney is absent with a head wound – David Moyes has confirmed he will be sidelined “for a few weeks” with the injury. The United boss brings in Ryan Giggs and Ashley Young on the flanks and drops Antonio Valencia to the bench – Giggs’ inclusion looks set to see Danny Welbeck moved centrally once again after he was shifted to the flank to accommodate Rooney’s return against Chelsea last Monday.

Michael Laudrup hands Wilfried Bony his first Premier league start at the Hawthorns. Jonathan de Guzman drops out in the only change from the side that lost at Spurs last weekend –Bony, Ashley Williams and Jonjo Shelvey all recover from the knocks that kept them out of midweek Europa League action, with the Ivorian’s inclusion allowing Michu to return to his preferred role in “the hole”.

Steve Clarke makes three alterations for the hosts. Boaz Myhill replaces the injured Ben Foster between the sticks, Nicolas Anelka is back after being granted compassionate leave last week, while Scott Sinclair is handed his first league start for the Baggies against his old club – Graham Dorrans and Markus Rosenberg are the men to drop out.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now accepting vistors for the early kick-off and will remain open until the final kick at the Emirates.

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  1. The Chosen One...
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Wasn't expecting 15 points from Migs and Sturridge 🙂

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  2. Red Devil Swede
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So United lose, that's crap.
    Toure injured of course, cue another Pool cs.
    Coolins, Coutinho, Mirallas, Nolan, Lambert, Dzeko blank.
    Playing Szczesny instead of Marshall, well, Arsenal cleanie probably not coming.

    Hoping for Wally (c) then!

    It could be worse, you could be scouse. Oh, wait.

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    1. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Playing Szczesny in the NLD over Marshall?

      Captain Hindsight says you should've known better

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      1. Red Devil Swede
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Of course I should've, and I know it. Missed to do the sub..

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  3. Adderz
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Linging up 5-2-3 next week. It's the future!

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    1. Adderz
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      eep, *lining

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  4. o0Ash
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Lamela better be added as a midfielder at 9m...

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Coutinho replacement? I'm thinking the same. 🙂

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    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      9m will be his price IMO

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  5. rozzo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    the service to RVP is poor but saying that i'm waiting for the heavy hitting midfielders to start firing before i take him out of my team, would you really take him out before a home match against palace?

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  6. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Pablo H. Get in!

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  7. Lawrø
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Henderson MOTM for me, he never stopped running, very impressed!

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Massively underrated

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  8. SpinyNorman [*_*]
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry.

    Has anyone mentioned that RvP only got 1 point?

    What's that? 0 BPS too?

    How much?

    14 million?

    You must be mad.

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    1. Red Devil Swede
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Hat-trick GW4.

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      1. SpinyNorman [*_*]
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Wednesday's lottery numbers?

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        1. Red Devil Swede
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          4 8 15 16 23 42

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    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      MUGS! YWNA.

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      1. BR
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        YAWN

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  9. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Benching Migs and GJ for two weeks running has cost me 25pts-plus. That's a decent percentage of my score! 🙂

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      why are you smiling then?

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    2. Del Griffith
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      why the heck would you bench a 6.0 m defender !!!!!!!!!

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    3. Jack Frost
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Oh, my. and you're an excellent player. I guess Brady in front of Johnson on the bench was the hard call. So easy to get this game wrong... I chose Silva in over Zab in. So wrong in retrospect.

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  10. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Points check?

    26, 3 to play, including Theo (C) - no hits

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    1. SpinyNorman [*_*]
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      40 pts including BPs

      Soldado and Paulinho still to play.

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      23 - 3 to play

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    3. 1-1 at Newcastle
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      52 3 to play

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      1. 1-1 at Newcastle
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        -4

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    4. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Exactly the same 😮

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    5. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      47 (-4) captain Theo to Carry expectations

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    6. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      22 :/
      2 to play... including Walcott (C)
      really need a hat trick from him....

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    7. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      51 - Soldado and Wally to go.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        51 all out

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    8. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      53 with Mert, Soldado and Walcott left

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      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        51- Soldado+Wally

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    9. Captain rex
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      48 pts including bonus
      wally soldado and dawson to play

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    10. chilin_dude
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      57. Theo and Giroud (C) left. Top week so far. Come on Giroooooooud

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    11. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      34. 2 to play including wally (c)

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    12. beric
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      37 - 4 theo(c) + giroud to come

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    13. Rog.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      30 2 to play - Ramsey and Wall-e (c)

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    14. BeefyBonus
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      43 (-4). Just Walcott to play

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    15. rohan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      38 with 3 to play

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  11. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    One thing I have to got off my chest - RVP is not fixture proof. He is as close as it gets, but he isn't fixture proof.

    Secondly, and more importantly, Will today's defeat influence their transfer activity tomorrow? (For both United and Arsenal)

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  12. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Best combo

    A wally n soldado
    B lamala n giroud

    Ta

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  13. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Never thought I would say this...

    HBA saves my GW.

    No FPL interest in an Arsenal v Spurs game for first time in 3 years will be a bit odd

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  14. Luigi
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Migs. I'll never betray you again. Damned Boruc.

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    1. Perthite
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Three from three away keepers on the bench top scoring for me. Need Walcott(c) decent score now.

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    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      +109874332124679998

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  15. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    This United team is slow and ponderous. Seems Moyes obssession with trying to keep the ball (lots of passing sideways and backwards) stifles any fast fluid attacking play and they never caught Liverpool out of position or ever got behind them. Makes me think keeping RVP isn't worth it if he's gonna get such little service when there's so many good forward choices at the moment. I think RVP's two moments of brilliance in the opening game fooled a lot of people and flattered Moyes as a manager and lulled United fans into a false sense of security. Yes, RVP will probably come up with more moments of magic but it'll most likely have to be something he conjures for himself as United are a team seriously lacking dynamism, movement and creativity. They need Rooney back ASAP and Moyes has to get over whatever hangups he has about Kagawa, or sign some quality playmaker before the deadline.

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  16. Jack Frost
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Silva captain three times the return of RVP captain. and I am not cheering. quite a let down.

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  17. JayCee
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Time for a WC or a -8 hit? Need to get Dzeko and Clyne outta there, Mirallas and van Wolf close behind!

    Mignolet/4.0

    Turner/Collins/Ivanovic/B.Turner/Clyne


    Mirallas/Snodgrass/Walcott/Barkley/Nolan


    Dzeko/Van Persie/van Wolf

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    1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      im doing WC during the international break too. but its risky!

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  18. Sánchez
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I captained aguero and my rivals both went rvp.

    4-2 Sanchez.

    😎

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    1. SpinyNorman [*_*]
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      😆

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    2. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      🙂 Quality.

      Now all we need is an early red for Theo and everyone's sorted.

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  19. mvtaylor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Has Science Gone Too Far?

    http://i.imgur.com/Ruc4X6k.png

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  20. Fray Bentos
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I think RVP owners can take heart, its now very unlikely he will be rested v crystal palace

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    1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not a chance after the loss today. This loss today will expose Moyes as a manager and the press will rightfully scrutinise his conservative tactics. He'll need to win and win well against Palace and he needs RVP for that.

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      1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Sorry, misread your post. derp 😀

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    2. Jack Frost
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      OK, silver lining in this bucket of s###. I agree.

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  21. Mini Mahouse
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mirallas out Hazard in or Lambert out Sturridge in?

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    1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A. definitely, but both preferably

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  22. thedarkhorse
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Is Jenkinson nailed on at RB?! Worth consideration in a WC squad?

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    1. McDog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sagna is ill apparently.

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    2. 1-1 at Newcastle
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sagna's ill

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      LOL
      have you ever watched real football?

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  23. Kostja
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I love the 2 blanks for united maybe it will get the ownership down a bit. Playing 2 best defensive teams in the league, now set up nicely for a big stretch of bad defenses. Cant wait to get him in 🙂

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Citeh are a terrible defence.

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        this season they are, especially if Komp is still out, Hull were a decent striker short of scoring a few and goals shy Cardiff got 2 with some missed 100% chances

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    2. SpinyNorman [*_*]
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Him as in United?

      I don't think the rules allow for that

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  24. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Best replacement for Coutinho? Iv had enough of him. I have Silva, Mirallas and Walcott

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      That's the problem - there are not many obvious replacements

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wait an watch on Lamela but Michu is a good option.

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    3. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lampard

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    4. Jack Frost
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Coutinho is the way to free funds for Suarez, if you are so inclined. At this point it doesn't seem lateral moves to similar priced mids are worthwhile. That's my take.

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  25. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Michuwatch:

    Apart from his assist he also set up Hernandez for another good chance from which he hit the bar. So pretty close to a big score, but also petulant as always and always looks likely to get another needless yellow. I'm wildcarding so he will go but I still like Michu more than the majority of midfielders.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      he was quality as usual

      season keeper

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    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      thank you

      wasn't sure anyone was watching that game

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    3. Gumpy01
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Any bonus points updates from Swan - WB game??

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    4. Sweetpea
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      whats ur wc draft like?

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  26. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So NLD to save my GW.

    4 players for me - Mert, Wally (C), Giroud, Soldado.

    Goal fest please 😀

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  27. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    tempted to get pablo

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  28. Back to Back Ballacks
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Young should never EVER grace a United jersey again, truly awful.
    Valencia not up to it.
    Rio, RVP, Carrick and Giggs all leaving the side down today when experience was needed, shocking day.
    YOUNG needs to go ASAP, useless mess.

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    1. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Also need a right back, Jones can't cross the ball and is far too injury prone to rely on, Coleman in as back up to Rafa.

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    2. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I thought Valencia was quality today

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        He wasn't too bad but I reckon his head is gone, giving up the Num 7 shirt says it all.
        If he doesn't have the confidence to wear that shirt he shouldn't get any shirt.

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  29. turd ferguson
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    RMT please

    Mignolet
    coleman zabaleta whittaker chester collins
    walcott barfa hazard toure ward-prowse
    soldado benteke sturridge

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  30. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    My only concern is how to get Migs in and Brayford & Marshall out...

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