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1 September 2013 5563 comments
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With goals a premium from Saturday’s matches, we roll into Sunday with high expectations. Today’s fixtures certainly give us room for optimism.

Proceedings get underway shortly at the Hawthorns and Anfield, where West Brom go in search of their first goal of the season against a Swansea side still looking to get a first point on the board. Alongside that affair, we’ve the small matter of Liverpool’s clash with United – a match that hosts an array of Fantasy talent, not least Robin van Persie, adorning the captain’s armband for many.

Later today, we’re treated to the North London derby. A clash which rarely disappoints when it comes to goals and incidents. It’s fair to say that we’re expecting fireworks again, as Arsenal attempt to keep momentum after the win at Fulham, while Andre Villas-Boas’ side arrive at the Emriates with a 100% record and without a league goal conceded.

The team news from the early kick-offs is in and is as follows:

Liverpool make just one change to the side that edged past Villa in Gameweek 2. Kolo Toure’s failure to recover from a groin injury sustained in midweek allows Martin Skrtel to partner Daniel Agger in central defence as the Reds attempt to register their third successive shut-out of the season.

For United, Wayne Rooney is absent with a head wound – David Moyes has confirmed he will be sidelined “for a few weeks” with the injury. The United boss brings in Ryan Giggs and Ashley Young on the flanks and drops Antonio Valencia to the bench – Giggs’ inclusion looks set to see Danny Welbeck moved centrally once again after he was shifted to the flank to accommodate Rooney’s return against Chelsea last Monday.

Michael Laudrup hands Wilfried Bony his first Premier league start at the Hawthorns. Jonathan de Guzman drops out in the only change from the side that lost at Spurs last weekend –Bony, Ashley Williams and Jonjo Shelvey all recover from the knocks that kept them out of midweek Europa League action, with the Ivorian’s inclusion allowing Michu to return to his preferred role in “the hole”.

Steve Clarke makes three alterations for the hosts. Boaz Myhill replaces the injured Ben Foster between the sticks, Nicolas Anelka is back after being granted compassionate leave last week, while Scott Sinclair is handed his first league start for the Baggies against his old club – Graham Dorrans and Markus Rosenberg are the men to drop out.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now accepting vistors for the early kick-off and will remain open until the final kick at the Emirates.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Robareid
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Soldado's yellow is now gone...

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    1. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Bastards!

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    2. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Paulinho got it instead...

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  2. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    For those confused about RVP's price

    He has a bigger chance of being 13.9 than 14.1 now

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    1. Trilogist
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Hardly.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        There is absolutely NO chance of him rising now.

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        1. Trilogist
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          and exactly the same chance of him falling. He needs to lose 10% ownership.

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    2. Gigging Order
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No he doesn't.

      Just because people have transferred him out today, does not mean he will drop.

      He is still closer to a rise than a fall, don't give misleading information.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I'm not saying he will drop, but he is far more likely to drop than he is to rise

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        1. Trilogist
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          again....no true. 2k have transfered him out....not 250k.

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        2. Gigging Order
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          No he isn't, that is the misleading information I am talking about....

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          1. The Machine
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            The only he's going in terms of ownership is down. There is a chance he might fall before the start of week 4 but there is 0% chance of him rising

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Very true, people over reacting big time.

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    4. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Since he was on 90% to rise it will take a lot for him to fall.

      Also, as he has nearly 50% ownership, for him to fall about 5% of teams need to transfer him out, thats 125k transfers out

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    5. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      So many dumb people on here

      I'm not saying he will fall but he's far more likely to fall than rise, so if you're looking to make value on a WC, get RID

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      1. Trilogist
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        god your a moron.

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    6. woodles
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      this is correct people wont keep bringing him in as hes been poor. more people will get rid of him than buy him so a fall is more likely than a rise

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  3. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    AVB confirms Bale has gone to Madrid.

    Arsenal are Barca's B team & Spurs are Madrid's B team 🙂

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      We just gave them Modric and Bale for 130 million. How about you? 😉

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I didnt give them anything.

        I did offer my services once, but they never responded to me 🙁

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    2. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Surely Arsenal are Manchester's B team?

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        They bought 1 player.

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  4. Telpuialion
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Not sure if I should WC this. Thoughts/comments much appreciated!

    Boruc (Cech)
    Pieters Koscielney Gabbidon (Terry Rat)
    Coutinho Nolan Walcott Barkley (Westwood)
    Soldado Giroud Dzeko

    Gonna go Dzeko -> Sturridge.
    Not sure if I wanna take 2 hits and go Westwood -> JWP and Rat -> Agger or not.

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  5. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Too many strikers, not enough midfielders.

    If I wildcard, I may go for a Lamela and Soldado double up, with a view to Soldado ➡ Sturridge the week after.

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    1. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      That looks like a good call, but keep an eye on Sturridge's possible price rises

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Seems sensible to get the mids that are unkowns. They can't do much less than Mirallas, Coutinho and co.

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  6. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mignolet is the highest scoring player in the game - still. Absolutely insane.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I went Toure due to price. Damn. Can't get them all so be it. Going with him instead of Boruc in WC. You discussed that we need Toure and 3 Liv players right?. Are you still on that boat?

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      1. Danny x-factor
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Plan to play one GK until next WC. He was in my team since Reina confirmed to Italy. But stupid sense saying doubling defense is a bull forcing me getting Sezney.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      And I passed him up befpre GW1 to go with Vorm and Boruc!!

      #greatideasofourtime

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  7. Rui
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Giroud or Benteke?

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    1. Bests Conquests
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Benteke. Bit Arsenal may bring someone in tomorrow too.

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  8. GK
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any help chaps? 2.2m in the bank.

    (A) Dzeko > Giroud
    (B) Dzeko > Benteke
    (C) Dzeko + Mirallas > Benteke/Giroud + Lampard (-4)

    Mignolet
    Nastasic, Shaw, Coleman
    Wally, Brady, Silva, Nolan
    Sturridge, Soldado, Dzeko*

    (Daniels)(Mirallas, Collins, Chester)

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    1. Super John McGinn-
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      C with Benteke

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  9. Bests Conquests
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So I see Sturridge is pretty high up on FISO and TFPL. Do any of you price sages think he's going up tonight or very soon?

    I'm looking to do Dzeko to...likely Sturridge.

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      He'll go up tonight for sure.

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    2. Gigging Order
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yes, tonight looks likely, could rise twice by the end of the break too with people WCing.

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    3. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Going up definitely

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      1. Bests Conquests
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cheer, thanks guys. Doing it now. Hope he doesn't go for national team.

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    4. Trilogist
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Dont forget though...he was feigning the thigh injury lol.

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  10. KJT123
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    http://oi40.tinypic.com/bgr8s1.jpg

    advice please?

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I am starting Chester over coleman, and I did dzeko>sturridge, with coutinho to lamprard (or oscar if you have the fund)

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    2. GK
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Very similar team to mine above, I'd try and swap Dzeko out for Giroud or Sturridge if you have the dollar.

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  11. Yome
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So Ozil to Arsenal or PSG?

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      PSG Mata to Arsenal 🙂

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Mata to Arsenal on deadline day would be unbelievable but I don't think it will happen

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    2. Telpuialion
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Man Utd! Haha

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  12. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    32 pts from my defenders this GW that cost a total of 24m. 😯

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    1. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Extrapolate that to the rest of your team, and from your 100m budget you should be getting 130 points each week 😉

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  13. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Might bring in Negredo

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  14. red beard
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    many double risers in international break?....can't see much money being made myself

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not really no, maybe Studge Barfa Giroud Brady Zabaleta...

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      1. red beard
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        holding fire then, see what tran deadline day brings

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  15. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    49 points all out.

    About average I reckon.

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    1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Higher than average I reckon being as most captained RVP.

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lol @ Nate.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Lol at Parmtree, Still hasn't outscored me in gameweek this season

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        1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          You two just kiss and get it over with. 🙄

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        2. Thomass
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Parm is a slow starter, just wait until October time he will out score you in a couple of weeks

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  16. WDT
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So hugely concerned by Moyes' attitude following defeat, and the second consecutive goalless game for united. Absolutely everybody except Moyes believes that we need to strengthen. Terrifying that he's floundered over the purchase of 1 midfielder when we need probably 3. Wide positions (if playing with wingers), creative/controlling midfielder, destructive midfielder all needed.

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    1. Puncheon Guly
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      He's done and said exactly what Fergie would have said. Never critcise the players in public, never discuss weaknesses in the squad. My advice to you... don't believe a word he says.

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      1. Cilly Bonnolly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        ^ This x 1,000,000

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  17. EnricoPalazzo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Well, Soldado to Benteke and Dzecko to Giroud done and I have to say feeling better already. Not gonna look at transfer news or injuries until next week when I realise I've got 4 players out injured. I'm with Mark in terms of not rating Soldado, he's not getting the service. Townsend had a great first half but uncertainty over starts is putting me off. My main concern is not having Chelsea defence, next plan is to double up here, what's the best combo - Ivan and Terry?

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    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think Cahill - Cole myself.

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  18. Kingston
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Funny how people say benteke is essential and soldado needs to go. They've had very similar penalty area touches and attempts at goal

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    1. John of Arc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Benteke played 3 of the big 5 teams and scored 3 times.

      Soldado played Crystal Palace, Swansea and an Arsenal which Benteke put 2 past, and scored 2 times.

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  19. Bauerhaus 24
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Wenger: "We need one or two super players. Maybe in 24 hours we can surprise you!"
    Could heskey be returning to the prem? 🙂

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      surprise you by signing no one!!
      #reversepsychology

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    2. FACUPARSE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Make that up yourself? or do you have a team of writers working for you?

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      One is the keeper surely. He is a tosser. They have nothing

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    4. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Prepare yourselves for 2 French players that nobody has ever heard of 😉

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  20. Ibrahim Ag Alhabib
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Should I wildcard. I want to get rid of Dzeko, Yaya, Kim, Shaw and Lambert, but this is not essential. Advice and criticism welcome. Thanks guys.

    Szczesny-Jakupovic
    Collins-Shaw-Coleman-Chester-A Cole
    Yaya-Silva-Wally-Kim-Coutinho
    Soldado-Dzeko-Lambert

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  21. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Only three mids on the first page of total score - Yaya, Hernandez and Silva - oh how times are changing......

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    1. Gigging Order
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I am liking the look of Hernandez

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  22. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So hands up who wont have Rvp gw4?

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      0/

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    2. Rui
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      \o

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    3. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      me i think

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    4. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Me. Doing well without him. See no reason to change.

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    5. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'll have him captain 😀

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    6. ChampChomp
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Moi

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    7. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Me. Vidic will be my Utd attacking cover.

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Did look dangerous on his passes back

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    8. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I honestly don't know about anything at this point.

      I need a lie down.

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      1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        😆 Two weeks rest for you my son. 😉

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  23. SW6
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Been agonising over this for weeks; So hard to pick 3 form these guys, Sturridge, Benteke, Giroud, Soldado. I'm currently favouring the first 3 and then looking at getting Lamela or Eriksen as a viable Spurs attacking player.

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  24. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    so, put of the wc yesterday but now think I have no choice

    Boruc - Migs is the better and can be paired with Given who Pool are getting
    Toure - injured, maybe not nailed on
    Mirallas - place under threat
    Morrision - injured
    Downing - injured
    Dzeko - needs to depart

    I count that as a minimum of 6 players I need to dispense with, has to worth a wc now shirley?

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I've WCed for less.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah, may as well just use it. Its for situations like this where everything is ****ed up.

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    3. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      That has WC written all over it.......

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    4. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Do it....but take hits first, so your nosey rivals will think they can take hits too....and then activate late as possible

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    5. Bests Conquests
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sorry, who's threatening Mirallas' spot?

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Del Fluff

        He could be a great buy.

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    6. Retro
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yes indeed. Love, Shirley.

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  25. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    im fearing lamella could be a gaston ramirez

    so im staying clear for now

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  26. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Another p*ss poor GW. Can kiss goodbye to any hopes of a top 5k finish now, then. 🙁

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    1. Trilogist
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      yeah because the season has finished this GW.

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I just never ever seem to get a killer quick start. Always playing friggin catch up.

        Just for once I'd like I'd like to get lucky and blast out of the starting blocks like a bet out of hell!

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        1. Dr. Rog
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          the top 1% is 25k. think about that for a moment. you have to be better than 99 other players. your chances are small especially after such a small sample size of 3 weeks.

          now top 5k, is 1 in 500!

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    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      you're overreacting a bit there mate.

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Yes, I probably am.

        Bad GW and toys out of pram moment. It's passed now.

        On bright side, we're joint top of the Championship with a team I'm proud of once again!

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  27. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Ok lads. SoT related question. I want SoT defender. Currently between Lovren and Fonte. Seems like both of them bonus p. magnet. Is Fonte assured starter ? What happened to Yoshida? That 0.4m would come in handy.

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    1. AAAAA
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lovren is an assured starter, I honestly don't think anybody else is. And its bloody annoying

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    2. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      whose your strikers dan?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        RVP Benteke Sturridge . But that could change

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  28. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    To Wc or not

    Boruc (foster)
    Coleman Chester ward murner Ivan
    Wally coutinho miralas kim tarabt
    Soldado lambert dzeko

    A: WC to get rid of foster, miralas, coutinho, taarabt, kim, dzeko
    B: Ivan + miralas + dzeko >> mertesacker + Pablo + Rvp (-8)
    C: miralas + dzeko >> Barkley + rvp (-4)

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  29. FACUPARSE
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Looking like Giroud Benteke and Sturridge is the best front 3.

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      indeed

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  30. Moves Like Agger
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Are there any decent midfield options for 9m or under? At the start of the season i wanted so many midfielders and now I'm wishing there was an extra striker spot!

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      fellaini if he goes to united.

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        He will be slotted next to Carrick
        MU need a proper CAM

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