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1 September 2013 5563 comments
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With goals a premium from Saturday’s matches, we roll into Sunday with high expectations. Today’s fixtures certainly give us room for optimism.

Proceedings get underway shortly at the Hawthorns and Anfield, where West Brom go in search of their first goal of the season against a Swansea side still looking to get a first point on the board. Alongside that affair, we’ve the small matter of Liverpool’s clash with United – a match that hosts an array of Fantasy talent, not least Robin van Persie, adorning the captain’s armband for many.

Later today, we’re treated to the North London derby. A clash which rarely disappoints when it comes to goals and incidents. It’s fair to say that we’re expecting fireworks again, as Arsenal attempt to keep momentum after the win at Fulham, while Andre Villas-Boas’ side arrive at the Emriates with a 100% record and without a league goal conceded.

The team news from the early kick-offs is in and is as follows:

Liverpool make just one change to the side that edged past Villa in Gameweek 2. Kolo Toure’s failure to recover from a groin injury sustained in midweek allows Martin Skrtel to partner Daniel Agger in central defence as the Reds attempt to register their third successive shut-out of the season.

For United, Wayne Rooney is absent with a head wound – David Moyes has confirmed he will be sidelined “for a few weeks” with the injury. The United boss brings in Ryan Giggs and Ashley Young on the flanks and drops Antonio Valencia to the bench – Giggs’ inclusion looks set to see Danny Welbeck moved centrally once again after he was shifted to the flank to accommodate Rooney’s return against Chelsea last Monday.

Michael Laudrup hands Wilfried Bony his first Premier league start at the Hawthorns. Jonathan de Guzman drops out in the only change from the side that lost at Spurs last weekend –Bony, Ashley Williams and Jonjo Shelvey all recover from the knocks that kept them out of midweek Europa League action, with the Ivorian’s inclusion allowing Michu to return to his preferred role in “the hole”.

Steve Clarke makes three alterations for the hosts. Boaz Myhill replaces the injured Ben Foster between the sticks, Nicolas Anelka is back after being granted compassionate leave last week, while Scott Sinclair is handed his first league start for the Baggies against his old club – Graham Dorrans and Markus Rosenberg are the men to drop out.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now accepting vistors for the early kick-off and will remain open until the final kick at the Emirates.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Chances Liverpool will have won every league game till GW9, all games seem winnable?

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    1. Torres76
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Good chance especially with Suarez, Sakho and Toure back in. They need cover for Lucas....maybe Diame from West Ham?

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  2. r0nh
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    So where will Ozil play for Arsenal, now that he has passed his medical?

    The number 10 role maybe?

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    1. Louis
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wilshere Ramsey
      Walcott Ozil Cazorla
      Giroud

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        No Messi 😯

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      2. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        what a line up

        WOW

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          You do know that Giroud is there, don't you?

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      3. Elniñorules
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Arteta for Ramsey?

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        1. Louis
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          We'll see. There will be rotation I think as there are always injuries.

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      i think him and santi will interchange between left mid and the hole

      theo stays on right

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    3. World XI
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yes i'd imagine. Although Caz on Oz will often drift and interchange.

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    4. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Did he have his medical over the internet?

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I gave him his medical!!

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  3. 7dbeckham23
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    Boruc, Mignolet
    Collins, Mertesacker, Coleman, Ivanovic, brayford
    Coutinho, Walcott, Mirallas, Silva, Thomas
    Soldado, Dzeko, Lambert

    I did very poor this week , and I'm really on the verge of WC'ing

    Do you think I need to?

    What do I have to keep in mind for International week

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    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Your team isnt even bad

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      1. 7dbeckham23
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        imo i think my strikers are weak, and coutinho & lambert both need to go asap

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      2. 7dbeckham23
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        coutinho and Mirallas lol, not lambert

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  4. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Not doing ant transfer(s) until transfer window is officially closed, so I gotta get out of here 😉
    A LOT may happen tomorrow.

    Night, lads!

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  5. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Heres my team

    Mignolet (Davis)
    Ivanovic, Coleman, Zabaleta (Shaw, Whittaker)
    Walcott, Silva, Miralles, Coutninho (Barkley)
    Sturridge, Giroud, Anelka

    Want to sell Anelka and Mirrales or Countinho (although LFC have great fixtures). Which one should I do

    1. Anelka + Mirrales out = Benteke + Brady in

    2. Anelka + Couninho out = Benteke + Ben Arfa in

    3. Anelka + Couninho out = Benteke + Hernandez

    Which one should I do? Any other changes needed please?

    Thanks all

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    1. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I like 2 the best, you have the best Liverpool player anyway and Barfa should play a part in anything Newcastle create.

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    2. v12w12
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      1.

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  6. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Now that Kaka and Ozil has/will go. Who will play CAM for Real?

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      They have Bale, Ronaldo, Isco and Di Maria to fill those 3 atacking spots

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    2. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Bale and Isco

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    3. World XI
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Isco like he has for the last 3 games

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    4. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Page 69 😉

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  7. TorresMagic™
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Early Bird & LMS Tables Updated

    48 with 0 transfers is the safety score in LMS.

    36 is the safety score in LMS but it will likely drop 1-3 points after hits are included.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      First LMS = Early Bird*

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      1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Pretty safe with 59 then .

        I think approx 100 managers dropped out of my 50+ Knockout League .....

        I thought it was gonna be more like 50 .

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Nice work. Getting easier to manage.
          Early bird is shrinking too but new entires are still welcome. LMS will lose another 40 odd this week.

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      48 too close for comfort.

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    3. Shah G
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Whats target for EB w. one hit?

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  8. Jonny
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    1) coutinho/hazard --> valencia/young/nani/lamps
    2) dzeko --> sturridge/negredo

    which options would you choose and therefore which 2 transfers would you recommend i do?

    thanks

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  9. Tarrou
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Ozil at Arsenal makes Giroud even better value imo

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      🙄 orly?

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      true

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  10. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Hernandez or Brady?

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    1. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      If you have the cash just lyin around, Hernandez. Check the RMT, see watcha think of it's projections.

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      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

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      2. Holy See
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I'd go Brady, save the cash. Tight see.

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  11. Gimli son of Gloin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Surely nobody can ever consider Chadli again after today
    He was awful, won't be a starter with Lamela and Eriksen. No chance

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    1. World XI
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Agreed. A waste of 7.5 mil

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    2. Robe Wan
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Same for Paulinho

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    3. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No worse than The Mousse, Pauly, Soldo. Walke and Rose were even poorer, but thought AVB failed to get team moving ball quick enough, allowed Gooners to get in position too easily and frustrate, then hit us on break, which they did well.

      I think AVB prob thought Gooners would dominate possession, and tactics backfired when it didn't go that way. First sub was too late too, 66 mins. Over an hour without hope of scoring is too long.

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  12. get_in
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Szczesny owners, what are ye doing? Went with him and toure over migs/mert and regretting it.

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No owners detected but 1.

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    2. JayCee
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Why? He got a cleanie today, saved a penalty GW1? not as good as migs I guess but it's best to avoid transfers for GK's if you can count on the long run

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      1. get_in
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I want liverpool def coverage, but with toure potentially out the door I'm not sure whether to stick.

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  13. Rinseboy
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone dropping Aguero or Soldado today!?

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    1. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not Soldado, unless on WC. He is a goalscorer and given time will get goals. I actually think he was a bit unlucky not to score today.

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  14. Jude Rooney
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Boy my mini leagues rivals must be poor - doubled my rank overnight yet did well in comparison to them ..... Didn't expect such a big drop

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  15. mvtaylor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Initial results for lineup predos GW3. More to follow tomorrow.

    FFS 182 / 198
    TFPL 181 / 198 (apparently coco did a last minute swap of Nasri for Navas otherwise they'd be on 182 as well)
    Telegraph 179 / 198 (also includes the complete blunder of only naming 10 players in 2 of their line ups)
    Guardian 177 / 198

    Great week for the scout, awful for Guardian (given how close previous weeks have been). Overall means FFS overtakes Guardian for season.

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  16. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Sky Sources: Arsenal in advanced talks to sign Real Madrid's Mesut Ozil #SSN

    Shits getting real

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    2. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I feel I represent all Arsenal fans when I say, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

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    3. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Oh shit. Mourinho likes this.

      Tomorrows news: Ozil joins Chelsea.

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  17. SW6
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    It could be too much for Arsenal fans when this Ozil move collapses

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  18. Andy Unsocial
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Wildcard activated...Hows this for a first attempt???
    Mignolet Given
    Zabaleta Dawson Chambers Turner Collins
    Silva Lampard Lamela Michu Ward-Prowse
    Benteke Sturridge Giroud

    Need your suggestions people...
    🙂

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    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wouldn't get Lamela just yet.

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      1. Andy Unsocial
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I agree that it's a touch risky...but seeing the dearth of attacking midfielders,wouldn't mind taking the risk...

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    2. The Invincibles
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No Walcott?

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      1. Andy Unsocial
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Don't like doubling up on attack...Giroud will do the job.

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  19. Vote Joke
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So, should I get Aguero out for RVP before the former drops in price?

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      RVP will probably drop too

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  20. Red Viper
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Guys I am wondering is it even worth having midfielders at all? I estimated the points some central defenders are likely to earn throughout the season, lets take for example a guy like Nemanja Vidic. Suppose he plays all 38 games of the season.
    Typically he'll get 16-17 clean sheets. Lets assume 15. Given the current trend, lets say he gets an average 1.5 points bonus for every clean sheet. Vidic likes to get his head on set plays, so lets add 3 goals for the season.
    Total score = 38X2(for playing) + 15X4(cleanies) + 15X1.5(bonus) + 6X3(goals) = 176.
    For 6 bucks, isnt it WTF? I am ready to bet Silva at 9.4 million wont cross this mark.
    My point is i think this season solid center backs are going to be so very crucial. 4-3-3 might just be the way to go.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Just go 5-2-3

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    2. Adderz
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      maybe even 5-3-2...

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  21. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mesut Ozil: 87 assists in the last 3 seasons

    Theo.

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    1. World XI
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Woah,, He is like a Fabragas all them years ago. Only he has gone super sayian

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  22. World XI
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    The last player Arsenal need is an Attacking Midfielder? CB and ST is where they lack depth

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    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Second best defence in the league last year

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    2. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Who would honestly say no to Ozil though?

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    3. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Kos,Mert,Verm and Sagna enough imo at the back

      I think we will sign a striker tomorrow regardless of what happens with Ozil

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    4. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I know, as an Arsenal fan, I am so angry right now!!!

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  23. Robe Wan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I'm no arsenal fan but Ozil?! That is an unbelievable signing

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  24. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Transfer suggestions?
    1 FT, 0,7M in the bank.

    Migs (4M)

    Collins - Coleman - Murner - Burner - Zab

    Haz - Silva - Wally - Mirallas - R. Morrison

    Soldado - Giroud - Lambert

    Cheers guys.

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  25. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mirallas & Lambert > Walcott & Sturridge

    Yes or No please.

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    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      All day

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    2. FISSH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      well obvious yes if u can afford it.

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    3. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Hell yes, not in the same price bracket and it shows.

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  26. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    "Good luck to my former team mates for the rest of the season, can't wait to play with Donkey"

    @MesutOzil

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  27. v12w12
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Toure to Zab or better option?

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  28. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Bale just sold for 85.3m....SSN...WOW

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  29. PMC3
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I don't know what to do, any help or advice would be appreciated:

    Boruc (Foster*)
    Toure* Kos Coleman Chester Huth*
    Walcott Silva Coutinho Jorrison* Rorrison*
    Benteke Lambert Saldado

    £1.4m in bank, 1FT

    Starred players are concerns. Foster injured, Toure injured (and new signings), Huth has poor fixtures, James Morrison got subbed at HT, R. Morrison is not a starter.

    Options:
    A. Wildcard
    B. Toure/Huth -> Burner, JMorrison -> Lampard (-4)
    C. Toure/Huth -> Vidic
    D. Other

    Thanks.

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  30. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Still puzzles me why Ozil would go to Arsenal 😉

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Kebab shops down Green Lanes? 🙂

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