[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
14 September 2013 2348 comments
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We’re woken from the international break snooze by a early kick-off that threatens to divide Gameweek fortunes. United’s Old Trafford clash with Crystal Palace is expected to be one-sided, with David Moyes’ men waking from their own slumber to put two consecutive blanks behind them with the Premier League new boys bearing the brunt.

Robin van Persie is lined up to be the main damage dealer but, with Wayne Rooney unexpectedly named in the starting XI, there is a joker in the pack, perhaps destined to fuel an old Fantasy debate. Could Rooney’s return overshadow a haul from the Dutchman? Can Ian Holloway’s side frustrate and keep the pair at bay? We’ll have our answers within two hours, from a match that looks set to have a big say in how our Gameweek shapes up.

Rooney’s inclusion is not the only surprise in the United lineup. Fabio is the man drafted in to fill the void left by injuries to Phil Jones and brother, Rafael. A largely forgotten figure, he will start at right-back. Anderson is another player brought in from the cold by Moyes; the Brazilian starts in midfield with Marouane Fellaini made to wait for his debut – he’s on the United bench. With Antonio Valencia starting ahead of Ryan Giggs, there’s no place amongst the substitutes for either Nani nor Shinji Kagawa, despite both being tipped to figure by this morning’s press.

As for Palace, they make just one change. Adrian Mariappa arrives to earn a baptism of fire. He slots into the back four and, significantly, it’s budget asset, Joel Ward, who drops out.

Our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is now open to cater for your real-time needs during this match and will remain available right through to the late kick-off at Goodison.

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  1. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    some non Rooney owners really are coming out with some ridiculous comments. One goal is fine. I'm not paying 10.5mil for a hatrick every week.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Massive flair GB. Well done for Rooney (C).

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      10.5 mil beast 14mil any day. Well done!

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    3. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      10.5m is a premium price. You'd want attacking returns every game.

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    4. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Well played Giggs

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  2. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Fellaini's brother is the Palace physio...

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  3. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    RVP owners were really smug after he scored. Now they're all seething.

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Hardly.

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    2. jimnastics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'm not seething at all :/

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Mildly disappointed, not seething.

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  4. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like Rvp won't get any bonus points. For those that captained him, is 12 points enough?

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    1. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      no 👿

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      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        What is it with early captains always failing to please?

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Its not bad

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    3. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      yes

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    4. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not this fixture, but great over the whole season.

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    5. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not at all but I'm happy to have in my team. I didn't just buy him for today.

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    6. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Depends what the other 'big hitters' do really. It's the minimum so far though I think that most people will be happy with.

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    7. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not for 14m in the easiest fixture of the year imo. If I owned him I would have been dissapointed with less than 10

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    8. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      could have been worse #glasshalffull

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  5. Sif
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Will mathc winning goal push RVP into the BAPs?

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    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No, It can't be considered really as Rooney scored too. Also, that was the theory last Newcastle game when HBS got the winning goal, but he didn't get an extra point.

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      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        *HBA

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        1. JJO
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          he got yellow card too

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  6. SW6
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Rio Ferdinand you sneaky devil, hops up to 10BPS and joins Rooney 😀

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  7. Al Pacino
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Vidic not getting bps then? :O

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  8. PogChamp
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Non RVP owners are not very nice.

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    1. Plagued by indecision
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      +1

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  9. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    If he gets 1 goal every week I own him I'll be very happy.

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    1. Lovzat
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      6/7 points against palace at home is just not enought.

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        It was enough for everyone last season though. He only scored more than 1 goal three times last season.

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  10. Gravless wonder
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Do FPL not give assists to players fouled for pens/fks anymore?

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    1. SamH123
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I think they do but not always updated live
      Pretty certain Young will get an assist

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      they're normally added later

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    3. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not till after the game. Think they just use the press association for the in game score, and they have different assist rules.

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    4. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Added after game

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    5. Dial Square
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      After the game. Do PlayOn reward fk assists?

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    6. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      They have to be added manually, so later on

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  11. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    wtf rooney?

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  12. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Haha Rooney what were you doing?

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Flying kiss to Eleen

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  13. The King
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Vidic over Ferdinand, Vidic is a BAP machine.......Come on Vidic!

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      where are the love baps??

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        live*

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  14. rakkhi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    United look like they could score 5 now. Sux RvP is off the field

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  15. Messi & fabregas
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    who is getting the point for the winning goal?

    rvp or rooney? how does it go?

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Had this debate before. The goal that put them in the winning position is the winning goal. Some say unless there is only a 1 goal margin there is no winning goal. It depends how they interpret it. Opta use the second opinion.

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    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      not sure there is a winning goal now.

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  16. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Shot off target 🙂

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  17. aehii
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Januzaj best player on the pitch. Rooney totally inept.

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  18. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Roooney is better than rvp.

    True story.

    At least he scores real goals.

    Unlike rvpscum that pays ref for penalties.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      yeh like swansea game

      MUG

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    2. Manilaman
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      It was a free kick, they are not real goals

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  19. Thomass
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Why didn't I just keep Rio…

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  20. shifterz
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Wegner has a strange formation for this game if the formations on pl.com are to be trusted. They have Ramsey as left winger.

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  21. Viper
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I don't care, that goes down as a captain fail. No bps for RVP.

    Gad damnit.

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  22. Miracallas
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Last season RVP(c) would be on for 18 here. Now 12

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    1. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Why would Rooney not have got 3?

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      1. Miracallas
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Mmm, could have. RVP would have at least 16

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    2. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Had a lot of shots off target so probably wouldn't have got 3 last year.

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  23. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I don't really understand how these Baps work, but RVP is on 8 now. If he gets an extra goal for winning goal that takes him to 9, making him joint top. Where am I going wrong?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      He won't get one for winning goal. It's 2-0

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        OK cheers. Only for a win by 1 goal then

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Rooney is on 11, Rio 10.

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    3. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Currently 11 10 9 8 8 8 (RVP). No bonus right now.

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    4. The3rdTurd
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      You don't get the match winning goal bps when the winning margin is more than one goal.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Mmm I thought this, but last week I think a BPS point was awarded in the City game to Dzeko.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          *Negredo

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  24. mufc802
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    United looked better since Young came off, he's not United quality. Love seeing the presence of Fellaini in the center also.

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  25. Hughes Your Daddy
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    "We will race you back to London" - got to love our away support out singing them all game 😀

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    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Looked really organised before the (wrong) penalty decision.

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  26. Professor Abel X
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Lol I'm loving this ridiculous obsession on this site with RVP.

    gets popcorn

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  27. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Definitely 0 Baps for RVP

    Simply delightful! cmon Tekkers!

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  28. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Rooney 3 Ferd 2 Evra Fabio 1 atm

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Evra 1 now.

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  29. The3rdTurd
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    That Rooney goal takes away RVP's match winning goal BPS point, so with one kick he's gone from potentially 3 baps to none. And if he'd stayed on for a few more minutes, he could have racked up enough passes to earn 3 more BPS points from his pass completion, which was 91%.

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    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      who really cares?

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  30. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Post Citeh, RVP and Rooney double up anyone?

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No. Welbeck will get back in.

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