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5 October 2013 4198 comments
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The Gameweek continues with four three o’clock kick-offs to follow on from City’s victory at the Etihad, before Sunderland host Man United later this evening.

Fantasy managers will be firmly focused on Liverpool’s meeting with Crystal Palace, with many backing either Luis Suarez or Daniel Sturridge with the armband, anticipating goals and a heavy defeat for the visitors.

We start the team news round-up at Anfield, then, to find that Brendan Rodgers makes just one change to the lineup that won at Sunderland. Raheem Sterling is drafted in on the right-flank with Jordan Henderson shifting to a central midfield role to replace the suspended Lucas. The formation is not yet clear – having played 3-4-1-2 at the Stadium of Light, that could be the case again, although Rodgers could also revert to a regular four-man defence with Victor Moses moving to the left flank and Jose Enrique returning to a full-back role.

Once again, Ian Holloway rings the changes for opponents Palace. Damien Delaney is fit to return, while Stuart O’Keefe, Jason Puncheon and Cameron Jerome all earn starts. Kagisho Dikgacoi, Barry Bannan, Danny Gabidon and Dwight Gayle make way.

Martin Jol makes a string of changes to his lineup to face Stoke at the Cottage. In come Philippe Senderos, Georgios Karagounis, Damien Duff and Bryan Ruiz as the injured Scott Parker misses out, along with Alex Kacaniklic, Kieran Richardson and Darren Bent. Mark Hughes also makes changes for the visitors as Stephen Ireland and Matt Etherington earn starts in place of Charlie Adam and Kenwyne Jones. That would indicate that Marko Arnautovic will lead the attack for the Potters.

Cardiff are unchanged for the visit of Newcastle, as Malky Mackay keeps faith with the starting XI that won three points at Fulham, leaving match winner Jordon Mutch benched. As expected, the Magpies tweak their starting lineup following Monday night’s disappointing first half at Goodison. Alan Pardew makes the decision that Hatem Ben Arfa owners were dreading: the Frenchman gets dropped to the bench as his compatriot Yohan Cabaye earns a start, along with Papiss Cisse with Vurnon Anita out of the matchday squad. Not surprisingly, Mike Williamson starts in central defence with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa dropping out.

Finally, at the KC stadium, the Tigers make just one change with Stephen Quinn benefiting from Robbie Brady’s absence following an hernia operation. Opponents Villa make two alterations – Ashley Westwood and Gabby Agbonlahor return to the lineup following injury as Yacouba Sylla and Nathan Baker drop out. That suggests a change of shape with Paul Lambert perhaps converting his 3-5-2 to a more standard 4-3-3.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to capture you real-time reactions during the afternoon’s matches and throughout United’s tea-time visit to Sunderland.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    13 years, 29 days ago

    why does this place turn into a den of nastiness as soon as the games begin....

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    1. Podge
      13 years, 29 days ago

      It starts about the teams get announced 🙄

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  2. Legendary!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Can someone enlighten me on the Suarez BPS fiasco? When the game ended he was on 11 and due for the 3. Now he is on 7 and due for none. None of the guys on 10 changed scores. Does any one have an idea why the drastic change?
    I have read a few comments but I am none the wiser. Thanks

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    1. JT's Dog
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Then you are in same boat as us all

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      1. isacki: full casual
        13 years, 29 days ago

        Yep.

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    2. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Same as Sturridge last week.

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 29 days ago

      They are finalised after the games, this has been the case since the start of the season. I think Sturridge went from 3 baps to none in GW1.

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      1. Ally - Killie Til I Die
        13 years, 29 days ago

        This was the case, yes

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      2. Legendary!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        13 years, 29 days ago

        I have noticed same but it's usually been a 1-2 point diff. I guess I am looking more closely now that he is my C 😀

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        1. isacki: full casual
          13 years, 29 days ago

          11 to 7. 4 points is pretty off the charts.

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            13 years, 29 days ago

            Its Suarez though, he's pretty off the charts for wastefulness.

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            1. isacki: full casual
              13 years, 29 days ago

              Generally, but no shots off target, 5 offsides (-1) and 3 fouls (-1) today if I recall 3rdturd correctly.

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          2. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            13 years, 29 days ago

            In Tommy we Trust posted a graph pre season showing how many baps players would have gained/lost in 2012/13 under the new system (based on their total stats, not per GW). Suarez was one of the biggest losers.

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    4. thetinkerman
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      13 years, 29 days ago

      I think we can't really rely on the in-game ones and have to wait until after.

      Seems harsh though. Don't know what they got so drastically wrong during the game

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  3. Large Hardon Colluder
    13 years, 29 days ago

    So does Aguero get an assist for the missed penalty as well as being penalised?

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    1. Declan
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Yup

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    2. tazri
      13 years, 29 days ago

      yes, he gets 3 + (-2) = 1

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    3. Obi Wan Elokobi
      13 years, 29 days ago

      I was working and haven't seen it yet but what I've heard it surely is an aguero assist

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  4. wormface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    suarez is class ,num nuts

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  5. KakiBangku
    13 years, 29 days ago

    May I know what happened to Kompany?

    Injury worth transferring out?

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    1. Strawberry Jelavic
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Holding hip/groin area as he plonked himself down on the pitch. Looked totally fed up. Hold and see over the next few days, intl. break anyway now and I don't think he'll plummet so fast that you're under pressure to sell. He might even be ok in 2 weeks.

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  6. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    13 years, 29 days ago

    United playing like crap. Against SUNDERLAND. lol.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 29 days ago

      I thought you were going to bed.

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  7. tazri
    13 years, 29 days ago

    can i just say no matter how bad your luck is, it cant be worse than this

    nastasic - no goals conceded - 57 mins
    wilson - no goals conceded - 58 mins

    instead of 2 points i could have had 12.

    BLOODY HELL

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      13 years, 29 days ago

      They both ended up conceding.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Both conceded, sounds fair.

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      1. tazri
        13 years, 29 days ago

        yes but only a few minutes off get the clean sheet points, plus nastasic didnt concede when he was on. it was before he played

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        1. Strawberry Jelavic
          13 years, 29 days ago

          Yeah I was actually wondering would they get the cleanies, as in had they enough pitch time, rare a defender will come on that early so it was always going to be a tight one! Burn.

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  8. Gr3g
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Breaking news: SAF on the way to Stadium of Light to have HT "chat" with Moyes and his useless bunch!

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    1. Strawberry Jelavic
      13 years, 29 days ago

      He should be on his way to have a "chat" with the new Chief Exec over the farcical transfer window they had.

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  9. BruLee
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Will Ramsey rise 3 times tonight or does he only rise once? He's on 300%.

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    1. Chris_White
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Once

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      1. BruLee
        13 years, 29 days ago

        cheers

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    2. tazri
      13 years, 29 days ago

      LOL, you must be a rookie, you can only go up once a day

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      1. BruLee
        13 years, 29 days ago

        lol good ranks over 3 seasons. noob.

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      2. Chris_White
        13 years, 29 days ago

        Yeah he's a real donkey for not knowing...

        Grow up

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        1. tazri
          13 years, 29 days ago

          well..... sorry if you're on your period but he is defined as a 'rookie' so whats wrong with that?

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          1. isacki: full casual
            13 years, 29 days ago

            Adds to list of people I'm glad I don't know.

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    3. FPL Daniel
      13 years, 29 days ago

      .3 . It so logic. If he is on 300%

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  10. Simon March
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Looks like Faye will be my best-scoring defender for the second week running. Shame he's on my bench. I never had this problem before I WC'd and had Ubers scoring 15.5 avg per game...

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  11. Captain Shirokov
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Oh my, United losing already.

    Must get rid of Vidic.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 29 days ago

      SOU STO ful

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        13 years, 29 days ago

        They have also conceded against WBA and Sunderland, two easy games.

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          13 years, 29 days ago

          No team keeps CS in every easy game.

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            13 years, 29 days ago

            Spurs do. 😛

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            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              13 years, 29 days ago

              So far

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          2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
            13 years, 29 days ago

            Sunderland doing a good job of it today

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        2. Chris_White
          13 years, 29 days ago

          Still not justifyable to get rid now

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  12. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Pass the ball to Van Persie...

    Dench!

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Sorry, living in the past

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  13. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    So all the sunderland defenders to share the bonus, right? 😀

    Sorry had to join the shadenfreude

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  14. charlie1X
    13 years, 29 days ago

    CS difficult to find

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    1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Sunderland finding them easy enough.

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  15. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Best defenders at 4.4 or less other than Clyne and Turner?

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    1. GunsnRoses
      13 years, 29 days ago

      none ... ttake hull

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  16. GunsnRoses
    13 years, 29 days ago

    I am not really happy about my captain choice as of now 🙁

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  17. Your Mum's Athletic
    13 years, 29 days ago

    So at what point does it go from 'transition' and 'give him time' too lets admit that we are poor and lets admit that we are

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  18. THE Wild Rover
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Rooney and/or RVP red mist coming if it stays like this 😉

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    1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      13 years, 29 days ago

      RVP red card, the ref finally sees one of his nasty late tackles.

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  19. Crouch Potato!
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Di Canio has just applied for a job at McDonalds! ssn.

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  20. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    13 years, 29 days ago

    You have to give Di Canio credit.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Yeah the players are so relieved after he was sacked that they're beating United!

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  21. Scottys Army
    13 years, 29 days ago

    If things dont improve here really tempted to sell rooney and keep SAS , United look awful.

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  22. FORCA INTER
    13 years, 29 days ago

    never had city and utd defender

    -proud owner of kosh 😉

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 29 days ago

      I'm a proud owner of kush

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    2. Podge
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Anyone ask ?

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    3. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 29 days ago

      You always gloat too early,. You were showing off about soldado captain before his 1 pointer 😉

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  23. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    So,
    HBA out.
    Who in?

    Hazard
    Mata
    Lampard
    Oscar
    Hernandez
    ?

    (Have Michu, Ramsey, Brady, eriksen)

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    1. The Invincibles
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Oscar

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      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        13 years, 29 days ago

        Cheers

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    2. The Orienteer - find me in …
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Mata I'd say.

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  24. The Machine
    13 years, 29 days ago

    480 mins since United scored a goal from open play in the league

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    1. Marknlard
      13 years, 29 days ago

      That really is astounding. I need to sell RvP...

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  25. A Defender's Nightmare
    13 years, 29 days ago

    When will they lift stupid flags of players who played today? (Mirallas, RVP, Rooney)

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    1. r0nh
      13 years, 29 days ago

      I know!!

      They put them on straight away & worry us!!

      But leave them there for ages 🙁

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  26. thetinkerman
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    13 years, 29 days ago

    Not sure why everyone is getting smug about United losing. It only makes me more worried about RVP and Rooney!

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      13 years, 29 days ago

      Half an hour gone, its like the game's over.

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    2. Scottys Army
      13 years, 29 days ago

      makes it simple dont buy either.

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  27. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Okay then so who's the best defenders at 4.5 or less (other than Clyne and Tuner). Are there any viable options? Doesn't seem to be to me!

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  28. beric
    13 years, 29 days ago

    just saw the goal, comical defending

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  29. charlie1X
    13 years, 29 days ago

    Moyes is a living joke

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  30. Heels_Over_Head
    13 years, 29 days ago

    my 2 week old is apparently a ManU fan, he's been having a total meltdown for 30 minutes

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