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20 October 2013 2063 comments
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The Gameweek rolls on with just a single lunchtime encounter. Aston Villa entertain Tottenham in the midlands as our 4pm Sunday roast accompaniment.

Spurs roll up still bruised from the shock 3-0 home reverse at the hands of West Ham, while Villa come into the game off the back of the 0-0 at Hull, having won their previous two prior to the KC Stadium visit.

Today’s team sheet sees Paul Lambert make one change from the side that drew at the KC last time around, with Nathan Baker replacing Ciaran Clark in central defence. Despite plenty of midweek optimism, Christian Benteke only manages to make the bench for Villa, allowing Libor Kozak to lead the line again, with Gabby Agbonlahor and Andreas Weimann supplying the threat from the flanks.

For Tottenham, Andre Villas-Boas rings the changes after the Hammers capitulation. In defence, Vlad Chiriches is handed his first league start – the Romanian partners Michael Dawson in the heart of the back-four, with Jan Vertonghen moving into the left-back berth. Sandro comes in for Mousa Dembele and partners Paulinho in the double-pivot, whilst further up the field, Christian Eriksen is replaced by Lewis Holtby in “the hole” and Roberto Soldado returns to take the lone forward role at the expense of Jermain Defoe.

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  1. FISSH
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    49 points...

    not too bad

    I regret selling Ramsey.

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  2. Gimli son of Gloin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Keeping Eriksen for the Hull game and getting rid for Oscar..
    Everton, Newcastle and the two Manchesters makes for some nasty fixtures.
    Anybody else getting in Aguero this week?

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    1. Mr.B
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Everton and Manu? Chelsea played them already

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  3. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Dropping out of the top 1m tonight 😳 And here's why..

    Michu Ramsey Moses Eriksen Januzaj

    Would you give them another chance and save a transfer? I can afford anyone.

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    1. WDT
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Would ship Eriksen for Hazard/Ozil/Silva.

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    2. Arsenals Number 19. Santi C…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      moses needs to got the rest look ok. Eriksen will come good I'd say

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    3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      erik to oscar

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'd get rid of Moses

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    5. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I will be losing Moses soon. Just no need for a hit when I have 2FT. Eriksen was only benched as he had two international fixtures and is barmy getting rid with that fixture on the horizon. Keep Michu. I wouldn't have bothered with Januzaj in the first place, but no point getting rid now with that fixture and unless you can upgrade him to Oscar.

      If Eriksen blanks for me v Hull I am selling for Oscar btw. My midfield is a fecking misery too:

      Michu Moses Eriksen Arnautovic JWP.

      I'm getting Ramsey for Arnautovic this week though.

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    6. AK ⭐
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen to Hazard for me. Most nailed on in our midfield behind the striker.

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    7. BuK II
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I don't like Moses. Only attacking return was from a backpass. But he does have WBA next week.

      Holtby didn't do a lot today so I wouldn't get rid of Eriksen just yet.

      I'd say leave for now. Especially as Chelsea and Man C play each other next week.

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    8. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers all. I think I may give them another chance, Moses and Eriksen are the main contenders for the chop but they both have great fixtures next week

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    9. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      awful midfield this week. use up your transfer

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      1. Jax
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        it's not that bad mate.

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  4. Kuqi Monster
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    enrique, vidic and eriksen all not playing means I've got wilson (1), clyne (2) and jedinak to come on.

    just can't seem to get a break this year!

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      At least you have an interest in tomorrows game 🙂

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      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        yeah ...every cloud.....

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      2. Kuqi Monster
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        jedinak ftw!

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    2. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Vidic was really annoying and without warning, thanks to this stupid Moyes....

      hopefully he starts next week.... each game he started at OT this season, they walked away with a CS

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    3. rumplestilskin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I wish wilson had played for 60 minutes.... the cheapest route is over it seems...

      any chance, u fancy a goal from the palace captain 🙂

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  5. kaythevillain
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Surely the Townsend bandwagon is about to gather significant moment, but maybe a move for Paulinho would be the more astute move? Your thoughts appreciated really having trouble picking one of them

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      1 flukey goal you mean

      yeh right

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  6. rumplestilskin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    My Worse decisions this season, (till Now) ...

    1. Not having Benteke for GW 1
    2. Not taking Ozil when Wally was unfit
    3. Taking a HIT for MATA when he was not guaranteed a start and Oscar was the one getting most of the goals
    4. Taking Distin with Wild Card
    5. Taking Yanga with WC
    6. Keeping Jedinak even when I had used WC

    Only 8 game weeks and already Six painful mistakes.... Wonder how many I'll make over the entire season.

    HOW MANY HAVE YOU MADE or YOU'RE A LUCKY ONE

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      My moto is forget the past no point dwelling , look forward to how you can get some momentum.

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      1. rumplestilskin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        how can I get some momentum.. HOW???

        by the way, you're grav is excellent..... nice win guys

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    2. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      7. Not buying Ramsey because he was due some regression

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      1. rumplestilskin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        logical... luckily i had him .....
        but, it's safer to have Ozil....

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      2. Mash Potato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        this.

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    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Well getting Lukaku, B Davies and Januzaj -8 this week wasn't one of my better moves

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      1. rumplestilskin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        FYI, Januzaj did play well.... even that goal could have been the assist from him if Rooney had scored in his first attempt.

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        1. elkunaguero
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          this!

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  7. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Guys, help needed.

    Is Eriksen to Ozil for free is kneejerk?
    Have exact funds to do it atm. Will Ozil have triple rise this GW?

    Thanks. 🙂

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    1. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      It's a very good long term call I'd say

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    2. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I think his ownership is too high for a triple rise, but certainly will rise once.

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    3. andres
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Do it

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    4. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      wait til he has played UCL

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  8. chrisjdgrady
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Rooney > Aguero or Michu > Silva ?

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    1. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Chelsea next week...

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      1. karankachiefs
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        aguero scores when he wants

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      2. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        surley it cant be 0-0 can it

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  9. andres
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    With no che nor ars would you rather get:

    A ozil, ramsey
    B oscar, ramsey

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      b

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      a

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  10. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    In order to become a casual, one must think and act like one. One must believe that they are actually a casual.

    Therefore my transfer this week will either be Michu or Paulinho to Ramsey.

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    1. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Paulinho was excellent today, I wouldn't ship either tbh.

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Casuals don't make many transfers

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    3. rumplestilskin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      +1...
      Casuals won't do Paulinho to Ramsey as they both got returns..... MIchu's the one they'd ship out tonight.... But, you can't do that to michu, can U

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  11. Plymouth
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Fellas, I need some pro advice!

    This is my lot, what should I do to get back on track?

    Cech (Boruc)
    Enrique, Cole, Baines, mTurner (Collins)
    Ramsey, Michu, Brady (Schneiderlin, Jedinak)
    Suarez, Studge, Giroud

    1.0M in bank
    1FT

    As you can see, Enrique,Cole and Collins is injured. Need to do some profixin´, Jedinak has been playing the last games, say no more..

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Depending on injury news collins to swansea defender or dawson

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      1. Plymouth
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Think ill bring in Rangel then!

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I am waiting until after Europa league but will be getting one of Rangel/Chico/Dawson next week

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          1. Plymouth
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Ye, obv waiting until after EL. Tho im actually looking at the prospects of W.Reid and one of Lovren, Shaw & Clyne too.

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            1. Call Me Old Fashioned
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Do not buy Shaw - he is a nightmare to own.

              He has a habit of being injured when Soton get CSs - I will be jerking sideways to Clyne when I have a transfer spare.

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    2. rumplestilskin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      picking a defender from Swansea seems wise....

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  12. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Time for a cup of Earl grey to recover from 4th red arrow to take me down to 1.3M overall rank.

    This game is no fun this year

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  13. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    If Ashley Williams plays on Thursday, I'm gettng him 🙂

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    1. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Getting Chico if williams isn't fit, gutted Davies is out again as I stuck with him through the last injury.

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    2. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      what about Glen Johnson?

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        And him.

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    3. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I don't know if you saw my post to you a few pages back, but I saw the Scarlets highlights and my word Scott Williams looks a talent. What a try!

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Good boy in he? 🙂

        Apparently he can bench press more than any player on the Scarlet squad 😯

        I like the look of Rhodri Williams at 9 too.

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Blimey seriously?! Surely the props bench more? Yeah I've never been a fan of Mike Phillips myself, very bland and sluggish. Would prefer someone like Tavis Knoyle or Williams to start over him.

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  14. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Im sick of this casual nonsense

    Its becoming a lame and boring excuse for people who are just picking the wrong players,

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      That's right !

      Damn those jammy casuals 🙂 !

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Feck off random casual.

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I agree!

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    4. rumplestilskin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      true that...
      it was I who did not take Ozil, Ramsey, Oscar, Barkley, Brady and Yaya at the right time

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  15. Stats King-@football2space
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Will be interesting to see the look of Spurs defense when Rose gets fit to play at LB, Vert might shift to CB to replace either of Dawson / Chrichels.

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  16. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I think I am keeping Eriksen for Hull fixture and then get rid of him for Walcott, as he should fully recover by then

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    1. hugothedog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      You think he will play? I'm thinking about shipping for Michu

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  17. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Nolan ->

    a) Hazard
    b) Paulinho
    c) Townsend

    a) is the more explosive midfielder, but b) and c) have the better short term fixtures AND mean that I can afford Aguero the week after (NOR).

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      If it means getting Kun, I'd go c)

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        c) over b)
        Oh, and if I go a) then I'd be getting Benteke instead of Kun the week after.

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  18. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    So, Rooney > Soldado anyone?

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      absolutely not

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Sort of kidding. Miss having Soldado in my team though. Quite fancy him to score well vs Hull.

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        1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          he seems like one of them strikers who always needs it on a plate. rooney more capable of producing something out of nothing

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          1. Scottys Army
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            + 1 Couldnt agree more

            Really sensing a big score from rooney soon either v stoke or fulham just needs some luck.

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  19. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    HBA owners, still keeping faith?

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      shipped him for oscar

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    2. Mr.B
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Not a chance

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Keeping him for Sunderland....I could score against Sunderland.

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  20. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    @ Rover

    Do you think its too early to get benteke or wise to leave it a week ?

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No reason to wait if you want him, not a big fan myself though

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        My dilemma is i have SAS , but i only want suarez long term and SAS has done well for me but i dont want to push my luck too far.

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          You're seriously clutching at straws if you do Sturridge > Benteke this week...

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      leave week

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  21. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hmm giroud/Ozil vs Cpl
    Or Lukaku vs avl

    Who to captain...

    Liverpool haven't scored in past two fixtures vs wba at home. So that makes me very nervy

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    1. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I fancy an upset in the villa match, they had some really decent play today and I think a little unlucky to lose 2-0. They do love to concede though. Palace on the other hand are just terrible, I'd say that's a safer bet for captain.

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      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Check past Everton villa results. Goalfest.

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        1. get_in
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Oh, not disagreeing there, Everton love to give their defence the odd night off too. I think the palace match will be much more one sided though, and therefore an easier captain choice

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  22. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Sadface. Was planning on doing Collins and Janu out for Terry and Townsend.

    Yesterday it would have been fine but today I am 0.2 short.

    Have just done Collins to Terry for now 🙁

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  23. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    What a fecking hapless, miserable midfield I have:

    Michu Eriksen Moses Arnautovic JWP

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      dreadful midfield. few changes needed

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I'm guessing he knows...

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      2. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Arnautovic > Ramsey this week.

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  24. karankachiefs
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    The guy leading overall has a team value of 106.6 with 0.4 in the bank. How is that even possible

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'm 105.5 which is some way off but not too bad.
      helps in January

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    2. Plymouth
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Well the leader in my ML has a team value of 106.2, classical tactic doing his transfers via price changes.. Hoplessly enough it works tho, 465 pts overall...

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    3. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      If you start off with the players that score well, it's very possible. I've 106.4, although with a far more modest score.

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      1. karankachiefs
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I thought I have been pretty prudent buying people on Sunday etc. and my TV is only 103.7. I must be playing this game wrong.

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        1. get_in
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I try to be a bit more liberal with jumping on early season bandwagons, and if I need to take a hit or two to rectify mistakes, so be it. After january WC I play a lot more cautiously.

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        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          If you got Giroud and Ramsey early you would be over 102 with just 2 players.

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    4. hugothedog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I have team value of 107.5 with only -12 in hits, just saying.

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      1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        your link shows your TV as 99 mill

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  25. Recoba
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    People think Migs is still the man to have? Worried about 3@back / recent def form

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Happy with Boruc

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'd rather have Boruc but can't really sell before a home game against WBA

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No clean sheet in 5 - but I have no choice with state of my team but to keep

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  26. Jude Rooney
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hazard, Mirallas and Soldado who would have thought it?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      haz mir soldado owners?

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      1. Jude Rooney
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Point being they were the most talked about players in August and were bound to come good - unfortunately I got rid of Haz

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    2. Assisting you all day
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      me in the first gw 🙁

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      1. Jude Rooney
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly.......,,,

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  27. andres
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Is it still worth getting ozil and ramsey?

    Everyone in my ML has them... i want catch up getting them in now but if they continue scoring like they have recently I am doomed.

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      get them both now

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  28. Assisting you all day
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Boruc Moore
    Shaw coleman davies turner wilson
    Michu eriksen hba ramsey ozil
    lukaku rooney sturra

    how do i sort this mess out eriksen to hazard/oscar?

    play shaw coleman turner this week then take davies out next week for a ft?

    hopefully hba plays himself in to some form!

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  29. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Can't wait for Ben Arfa's 2 goals and assist next week for another "I knew I shouldn't have sold him!" choir.

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Not sold him yet but see your point - will he start though?

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  30. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Currently sit at 11th in my ML league witrh a team I wont complain
    Just see team of 10 rivals above me. And what do you know?
    All of them have Ramsey while I dont. That sum up my season so far

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      bring in ramsey ozil if you dont have otherwise retire id say

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I got Ozil at 10M mate.
        Still cannt swallow my pride to get Ramsey at 6.8M but he's acutally killing me.

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    2. Assisting you all day
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      wouldnt bring in ramsey now imo with wenger not afraid to rest him

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