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20 October 2013 2063 comments
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The Gameweek rolls on with just a single lunchtime encounter. Aston Villa entertain Tottenham in the midlands as our 4pm Sunday roast accompaniment.

Spurs roll up still bruised from the shock 3-0 home reverse at the hands of West Ham, while Villa come into the game off the back of the 0-0 at Hull, having won their previous two prior to the KC Stadium visit.

Today’s team sheet sees Paul Lambert make one change from the side that drew at the KC last time around, with Nathan Baker replacing Ciaran Clark in central defence. Despite plenty of midweek optimism, Christian Benteke only manages to make the bench for Villa, allowing Libor Kozak to lead the line again, with Gabby Agbonlahor and Andreas Weimann supplying the threat from the flanks.

For Tottenham, Andre Villas-Boas rings the changes after the Hammers capitulation. In defence, Vlad Chiriches is handed his first league start – the Romanian partners Michael Dawson in the heart of the back-four, with Jan Vertonghen moving into the left-back berth. Sandro comes in for Mousa Dembele and partners Paulinho in the double-pivot, whilst further up the field, Christian Eriksen is replaced by Lewis Holtby in “the hole” and Roberto Soldado returns to take the lone forward role at the expense of Jermain Defoe.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now available to welcome those who like that matchday exchanges in real-time.

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  1. TorresMagic™
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    Not a bad result, wish Eriksen played. Could be some jammy autosubs on the way.

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    1. Evs
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      Yes 🙂

      Sorry, wrong smiley 🙁

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    2. The Bandit
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      I get Moses so not exactly jammy

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    3. get_in
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      Still only 6.2% ownership so hopefully won't push up the average too much

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  2. Mr.B
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    Which one to take out? Need a 4.5 defender that will keep clean sheets(have clyne)
    A) Zaba
    B) Sakho
    C) Coleman

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
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      Zabaleta

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  3. Jude Rooney
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    Surely B can't keep Agger out for much longer

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    1. Jude Rooney
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      Reply fail........

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  4. Gazza2000
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    Kun or Benteke ?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      kun

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    2. Assisting you all day
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      mourinho will make sure kun is not walking after chelsea done with him

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  5. Assisting you all day
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    REPOST URGENT HELP REQUIRED only 390 points

    worst start to season in a while

    Boruc Moore
    Shaw coleman davies turner wilson
    Michu eriksen hba ramsey ozil
    lukaku rooney sturra

    how do i sort this mess out i have 1ft?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      eriksen > haz

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      erik to oscar

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      1. Assisting you all day
        • 13 Years
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        damn you two 🙁

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    3. MCH
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      I would comment but you're ahead of me so clearly making better decisions than me to date!!

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  6. bangers and M*A*S*H
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    My last post had a mistake in it.

    What I meant was:

    Arnatovic out, Townsend in?
    or
    Kosciely out, Vertonghen in?

    or just save the transfer?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      townsend in

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    2. FangFabregas
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      I would say save it.

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    3. Tomlette Greggs
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      1

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  7. DÏLKS
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    Tell me if i'm being stupid but: http://imgur.com/GhTZTZC

    A) Vertonghen --> Clyne/Shaw and then Livermore --> Ramsey

    B) Vertonghen --> Clyne and then JWP --> Ramsey

    Livermores only unavailble against Spurs because of Loan deal.

    Who's better out of Shaw and Clyne?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      you need ramsey so A

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    2. get_in
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      Clyne is better value, but after their next three their fixtures are absolutely horrific. I'd get a swansea defender instead.

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      1. DÏLKS
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        Bearing in mind i've already got Chico though?

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        1. get_in
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          Oh, that's a fair point, didn't see him. Yeah, Clyne not a bad option then if you don't mind benching most weeks for the next bit, should come good later on.

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      2. Scottys Army
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        Disagree they conceded 1 goal at liverpool and united games combined

        they are rock solid

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
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      B if you must 😀

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      1. DÏLKS
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        Thank you!

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
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      Doesn't sound too bad really.
      Clyne for price. Rather JWP to Livermore

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      1. DÏLKS
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        Thank you! You'd rather get rid of JWP do you mean?

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    5. Chris_White
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      B, but no point binning Vertonghen this week.

      Clyne. Cheaper and less injury prone.

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      1. DÏLKS
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        Okay, thank you sir.

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  8. karankachiefs
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    How many points behind in your ML do you think it takes to activate the WC?

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    1. Assisting you all day
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      once your bench becomes useless and you have 3 plus non playing players

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      1. karankachiefs
        • 13 Years
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        Non playing players

        Foster
        Chester
        Kim

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    2. Assisting you all day
      • 13 Years
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      or players who are just not doing anything wildcard!

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
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      Probably should have activated it if you are that far behind and losing ground weekly.

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      1. karankachiefs
        • 13 Years
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        91 points behind already. Time to hit the button?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          No idea on your team. On iPad.

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    4. Jude Rooney
      • 13 Years
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      Sorry to be pedantic but the 2 aren't connected - depends how happy you are with your team.....

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  9. Stats King-@football2space
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    Which budget mid to buy ?
    (Rotation with Ravel M if possible & free up cash, hv upto 4.7m)

    A) Mutch 4.4m
    B) Yacob 4.4m
    C) El Ahmadi 4.4m
    D) Delph 4.4m
    E) Kasami 4.5m
    F) Bacuna 4.6m
    G) Any other ?

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
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      A. Mutch

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    2. Heydudes13
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      Think I just puked at the thought of owning one of these. Yacob if you really have to.

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      1. Stats King-@football2space
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        😆 I just need a bench filler to free up some cash. 5th mid at best.

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    3. DRIZ ✅
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      a

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  10. FangFabregas
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    Kosc Zaba Toure (Vlaar) (Shaw)

    Should i take Kosc out for a 5.6 defender for free? Was contemplating between zabs and kosc..

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  11. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
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    Mig
    Coleman Murner Dawson
    Ozil Januzaj Barkley Michu
    Soldado Studge Rooney

    Bank 5.1
    1 FT

    Subs - Davis Kim Ward Chester

    A) Kim > Hazaaar and bench Januzaj
    B) Soldado > Benteke
    C) Ward > Clyne and bench Coleman
    D) Save FT

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      A or C

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        A but you prefer Haza to Oscar?

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    2. Chris_White
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      D

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    3. rumplestilskin
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      C. Bench Coleman and get Clyne...
      play Januzaj...

      BTW, Thanks for the Link Salma 🙂

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      1. Elniñorules
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        Thanks lads 🙂

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  12. Got grey hair
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    Evening chaps.

    A) Paulinho, Silva and Terry or
    B) Michu, Silva and Chico?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      A

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      b

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    3. hugothedog
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      B)

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    4. Got grey hair
      • 14 Years
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      Currently have Paulinho, Michu and Wilson all in the danger zone. (3m in bank and 2 frees) any better options?

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  13. Recoba
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    Building off my last post questioning Migs.... out of

    A) Migs / Clyne
    B) Boruc / Johnson
    C) Double SOT

    What looks better long term

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      a

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      B

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  14. Tabone
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    Benteke or aguero?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      agu

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    2. Scottys Army
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      benteke

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  15. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    Chico (any Swansea def), Dawson or Clyne in for Collins?

    Defence is - Migs, Lewis, Zaba, Coleman, Shaw Collins and Chester

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      Chi

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      Clyne

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        was going to do Shaw--->clyne in few weeks but Soton next 3 are worth a double up

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
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          nope, didnt see you have Shaw. Chico then

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          1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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            cheers lets see what Europa league brings

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  16. FantaCity
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    Moses out for Lallana was my planned smarty pants Scout transfer.
    The masses, however, are probably going to bring in Townsend . . . therefore, learning from what we've seen so far this season (Ramsey, Barkley etc) I should get Townsend, right? *sighs*

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    1. karankachiefs
      • 13 Years
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      Townsend was on fire today. Definitely going to be nailed on, all attacks went through him in the second half

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      1. FantaCity
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        yeah, I saw it too . . . he's also cheaper, which is usually my last-ditch decider. Problem is the rest of his team, frankly

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  17. Efan Ekoku Pops
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    Which Swansea defender is the best option? Need a 4th defender who actually starts and isn't injured.

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      vorm

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        Vorm playing LB ?

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      2. Efan Ekoku Pops
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        Yeah...not quite the answer I was looking for. Don't need Vorm with Boruc doing the business.

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        1. Mr.B
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          Rangel for attack

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  18. OPTA FPL
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    Just wonder is there anyone in top 100k atm has not got Ramsey this year?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      He was in 855 teams in the top 1000 last week.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
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        is that for real??

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Yeah, go to Page 1 of Pool Dugout Discussion.

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    2. Jude Rooney
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      Probably about 50k.......

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  19. The Bandit
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    Shaw (FUL) Burner (nor) Terry v Zab

    I'm going to have to bench one of the big boys right? 😐

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
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      bench zab rover

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
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      play terry zab

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      Zaba

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    4. rumplestilskin
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      Zab it is... Terry with a header to save Chelsea

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  20. bangers and M*A*S*H
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    Need to sell Agger tonight due to price fall.

    Who to get

    A) Johnson
    B) Vertonghen
    C) someone else

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      Vert

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      keeo

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  21. andres
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    Migs (davis)
    Wilson vidic walker coleman chester
    Eriksen sess michu whittingham jedinak
    Suarez lukaku roo
    2.4, 1FT

    Radical changes needed:

    A eriksen, sess vidic => ramsey, ozil, clyne (-8) (or other sot def)
    B eriksen, sess => ramsey, oscar (-4)
    C other?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      A.

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  22. Assisting you all day
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    Hazard v Oscar needs a hot topic

    Both look certain to play under mourinho ad price is the same at the time of writing

    Hazard scored 3 goals and assisted 2 whereas oscar scored 4 and assisted zero (both stats from PL only)

    Hazard played 618 minutes and oscar played 587 only ramires terry ivan played more (720 minutes) and cole(592)
    however the bonus points favouring oscar 9 bp to hazard 5

    With players like michu eriksen not firing i think its time to bring some chelsea in and these two are the standout picks

    You could argue hazard not really been at his best this season who would you pick in your team personally im going hazard for the extra flair and if lampard not on the pitch he takes penaltys 😀 mourinho trying to make him become his "ronaldo" however oscar is also a good pick

    Thanks for reading! 🙂

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    1. rumplestilskin
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      hazard has the extra flair.. but, have u seen his goals....

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      1. Assisting you all day
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        not great i know

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    2. Jude Rooney
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      Good post - got rid of Haz 26 points ago unfortunately

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    3. AK ⭐
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      Well, its really a coin-toss between them. Though there's Juan Mata, who's related to Oscar's position. The only game that Hazard didn't start was when he was on the bench and couldn't start due to a niggle. And still came on and scored. His goals weren't particularly very good, but everything from the left, came from Hazard. Very much involved in the attacks. Hazard for me.

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      1. Assisting you all day
        • 13 Years
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        mou doesnt really favour mata only started ahead of oscar due to his travelling for brazil he subbed off mata before 60 min mark? saying that he doesnt really fancy him i think this is time for oscar to step up now needs to slowly overtake lampard so cfc wont miss the goals lampard brought to them when he goes

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        1. AK ⭐
          • 13 Years
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          I don't think you're correct here. Mata's been starting games recently after that Spurs game. The 4-0 win over Steau, then the Norwich game, and then this one. Yeah he subs him off, but Mourinho clearly favours Hazard, who's started almost every game when he's fit.

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  23. lastmanback
    • 15 Years
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    Davies to:

    A. Rangel
    B. Chico
    C. Wait until Thursday to see if Williams is fit?

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  24. Captain Shirokov
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    This is why I hate this season.

    This guy in our ML came BOTTOM last season.

    http://gyazo.com/c9d5d6b2aa4d833a833e8e8db2c0ddf5

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    1. Efan Ekoku Pops
      • 14 Years
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      You got trolled last season ;). Marathon, not a sprint. Normality will resume soon.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Dawson on bench as well! Hahaha

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  25. Evs
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    I don't really want to offload Eriksen or Vidic.

    There, I said it 🙄

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      would keep both

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    2. rumplestilskin
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      I'm fed up with Vidic...
      When I keep him in my bench he comes in with ZERO (after playing 90 mins); and when i keep him in XI he stays at the Bench .....
      like he's Upset with me for not giving a start... 😛

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
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      Eriksen probably needs to go. Why didn't he play?

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      1. Evs
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        No idea mate.

        I'm not a happy bunny...

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    4. Heydudes13
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      Eriksen was rested from the internationals! Vidic had a niggle he should be alright! Keep both.

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      1. Christina.
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        He dude...you were nearly part of team Senegal.

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        1. Heydudes13
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          Whose he dude? And why wasn't he given the go ahead!

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          1. Christina.
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            *hey

            Your team mates it seems thought you might be a better fit in my team.

            Better take it up with them.

            😉

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            1. Heydudes13
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              I will get you Christina.

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  26. Whazza
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    Who to get in for Collins for 6.0 or under?

    Already have Coleman, Caulker, Zabaleta and M Turner.

    Cheers.

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    1. DÏLKS
      • 12 Years
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      Walker, Lovren, Fonte, Dawson.

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      1. Whazza
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        Walky walk is 6.1

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        1. DÏLKS
          • 12 Years
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          Oh, my bad. Any of those three, or Swans defender.

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    2. thegame
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      clyne and pocket 1.5m or glen Johnson for attacking defender

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      1. Whazza
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        thinking this

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
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        Very nice gameweek.

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  27. thegreathoudini
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    67 points so far this week.

    Boruc / Lewis
    Wilson / Ivanovic / Zabaleta / Burner / Coleman
    Oscar / Özil / Brady / Januzaj / Morrison
    Giroud / Rooney / Suárez

    2 FT, £1.3m in the bank.

    Looking to maybe get Ramsey in and maybe take out Zabs or Ivanovic. Any recommended replacements? Don't fancy doubling on Soton defence.

    A) Januzaj + Zabs > Ramsey + Reid
    B) Januzaj + Zabs > Ramsay + Dawson
    C) Leave as is

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    1. AK ⭐
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      Don't triple up on Arsenal now. Liverpool and United away after Palace.

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  28. NABIL - FPL otai
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    @snake juice, if you're around.

    6 minutes to the Draft. 😀

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  29. andres
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    Whitingham to lallana for a -4, worth it?

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    1. DÏLKS
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      Nah.

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    2. Jude Rooney
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      No way.......

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    3. AK ⭐
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      Not for me.

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  30. Scottys Army
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    Migs to Boruc ?

    1 mil cheaper and saints look solid even in tough games , even if he doesnt get a cleanie good save points anyway.

    good move

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    1. DÏLKS
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      I'd go Vorm, but up to you.

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