[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
7 December 2013 1608 comments
Mark Mark
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The early Saturday kick-offs are back and this one delivers an encounter which could bang a final nail in Man United’s title ambitions.

It seems premature and ridiculous to think that the champions could be out of the race before Christmas and yet, anything less than three points today with victories for City, Chelsea and Arsenal over the weekend, would surely leave David Moyes’ side floundering before the Turkey has been basted.

Newcastle can be dangerous opponents – they arrive at Old Trafford having had their four-match winning streak ruthlessly halted by Swansea in midweek. However, Alan Pardew’s side have weapons to hurt the United rearguard and a combative midfield who seem unlikely to surrender control to the home side.

Strangely, many Fantasy managers will struggle to find too much interest in this one. Although, with Wayne Rooney suspended, we can at least run the rule of Robin van Persie. The Dutchman makes a timely return to Moyes’ lineup having recovered from recent injury concerns. His introduction is one of seven changes as Jonny Evans, Phil Jones, Nani, Tom Cleverley, Adnan Januzaj and Javier Hernandez all come in. Chris Smalling, Ryan Giggs, Antonio Valencia, Marouane Fellaini, Danny Welbeck and Shinji Kagawa miss out following Wednesday’s defeat to Everton. As for Newcastle, they make just one change – Vernon Anita is drafted in to bolster the midfield as Shola Ameobi drops to the bench.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom has opened up for this early clash and will remain available for your real-time requirements right through all today’s seven fixtures.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. FORCA INTER
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    bad luck everyone

    ussualy when i wish good luck to everyone i have bad gw and everyone else cracking those points

    let's see will something change now when i do the opposite

    obviously, good luck to everyone who have my players

    as for others , red cards and minus points all over team

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    1. SamH123
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      cheers mate 😀

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    2. Crouch Potato!
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      So that's the change of tactic you've be going on about! Stunning!

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      1. FORCA INTER
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        i can honestly say that i dont know what am i doing anymore , this season goes hard on me

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        1. The Abyss
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          Ha, you said hard. And then you said on.

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  2. rosti with sausage
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    is hazard essential before jan wildcard?

    i'm looking to swap rooney and sess to lukaku and hazard

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    1. Bubz
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      Yeah as close to an essential midfielder as there is.

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      1. rosti with sausage
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        more than a goal a game ramsey? =p

        it's so tough to balance the team with so many performing strikers..

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        1. Bubz
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          I've blanked Ramsey out of my memory. Too much trauma.

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      2. The Abyss
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        Hazard's an idiot.

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        1. Bubz
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          I'm guessing you're a non owner

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          1. The Abyss
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            You guessed right.

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  3. Bubz
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    Can smell an Evra goal today.

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    1. LOCO ABREU
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      *chico

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    2. OShaughnessy
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      Is that a goal slathered in garlic & butter served with just a hint of arrogance?

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  4. Del Monte
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    Januzaj is a serious talent

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    1. The Finnisher
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      He's United's best attacking midfielder and he's 12 years old 😆

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        12 years, 4 months ago

        He's playing well? Stream won't work ...

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        1. Bubz
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          Been best player on the pitch probably

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        2. The Finnisher
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          Playing alright, hasn't been much happening worth noting but he is class on the ball and has a great first touch.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            Thanks, guys ... 🙂

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      2. tw
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        that's about as old as Thomass 😆

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      3. Crouch Potato!
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        13 actually, get your facts right pal!

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    2. sy
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      Yeah looks dangerous

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    3. MJ6987
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      Unfortunately, FPL wise he only starts about every other game

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  5. Heydudes13
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    Pointless short corner, as they always are.

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  6. tw
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    ILOVEBAPS and anyone else interested, the draw for the Fifth Round Proper of the FFS FA Cup can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuuifMuJM44AdGJoSkN1VDBQbUx5Mml6VFBqNDRCWWc&usp=drive_web#gid=18

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    1. ILOVEBAPS
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      You are a wonderful man. Thank you TW 😉

      You read my mind.

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      1. tw
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        no problem

        good luck in the rest of the comp 😀

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    2. Jafooli
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      Cheers TW and for running the comp.....

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      1. tw
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        you're welcome. glad you're enjoying it 😀

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  7. Bubz
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    Cabaye aiming for row Z again

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  8. Jafooli
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    Jones plays just like Luiz, a couple of headless chickens....

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  9. MJ6987
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    Barring any injuries,etc, I should have a cracking team from next weekend (8 point hit has kind of ruined this week)

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  10. Rafabio
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    12 years, 4 months ago

    Jones hobbling.

    NEW fouling like it's no tomorrow.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      But it isn't tomorrow!

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        Today was yesterday's tomorrow!

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  11. Solghetto
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    Starting 2 living up 30 mins late

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  12. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    WHy did moyes change Fergie's tactics and coaching staff. Its just fking stupid. It was a winning formula and hes completely pillaged it. Wasted no time either.

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      lol

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    2. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 4 months ago

      Honestly!

      And when Fergie dies, they should freeze his brain so they can re-animate him when the technology catches up...

      Robo-Fiegie 2048!

      Don't embrace the future... Only hold on the past my friend!

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    3. The Abyss
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      Moyes is an idiot.

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  13. Bubz
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    Newcastle look quite dangerous on the counter attack.

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  14. Bartowski
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    Surely even Man U fans must admit it would be pretty funny if Newcastle scored....

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    1. The Finnisher
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      I doubt it.

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      1. Bartowski
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        No all the ones I've met have a good sense of humour about the team they support and take it really well when they don't win....

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    2. Heydudes13
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      No, why would they?

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  15. Heydudes13
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    Cleverley's looking good.

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    1. Parm
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      Was just about to say this, putting in some decent long range passes and taking the ball out from the back well.

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  16. MJ6987
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    How's Nani doing? We have him in the draft game.

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    1. Your Mum's Athletic
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      12 years, 4 months ago

      worst player on the pitch, gives it away easily, useless

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      1. MJ6987
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        Ah right. He was our 10th pick out of 11 to be fair, bit of a punt.

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    2. Get up ya bum
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      On your bench i presume?

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      1. MJ6987
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        Yeah

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      2. MJ6987
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        Just hoping he plays well and gets a run in the side.

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          Yeah for sure. The hardest thing for you guys would be knowing when to play him. He'll be in and out at best and we got no auto-subs

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          1. MJ6987
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            Yeah, unless he starts performing week in week out we will probably have to ship him

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  17. Noisy Neighbour
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    12 years, 4 months ago

    The biggest benefit of living in the U.S. is having all the matches broadcast live. I can even record the matches and watch them individually without fear of having the results spoiled for me, because they only give you updates on the other matches during the featured game on the main network. Brilliant! The only drawback is it means I have to avoid this place until I've seen all the matches I want to see for the day, and I miss out on all the live banter.

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    1. The Finnisher
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      + Australia 😎

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      1. Noisy Neighbour
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        Brutal draw for you Aussies yesterday. Made everyone here feel better about the U.S. draw, not that I like our chances much better.

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        1. The Finnisher
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          You wanna be the best you gotta beat the best.

          Unfortunately the best will flog us 6-0, but still..

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        2. Get up ya bum
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          Great draw I reckon. We were never gonna get far anyway so it'll be awesome to play some o the worlds best

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    2. Tim Canterbury
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      I couldn't sacrifice the banter but must be nice to see a lot of games in full

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      1. Noisy Neighbour
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        Yes, and you would think that being able to see all those extra games would give me better insight and make me a better fantasy manager, but unfortunately that is not the case.

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    3. Buck The Trent
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      + Singapore

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      1. Jafooli
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        +1

        Well +8 actually.....

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  18. Rambo Motin
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    CABAYE INURY

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    1. The Bandit
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      He's fine.

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    2. MJ6987
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      How long will be out for?

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  19. LOCO ABREU
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    ramsey>mirallas?what you think?

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    1. toxik
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      Hoping that Ramsey fails soon, surely he can't keep the scoring/assisting up??

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    2. The Bandit
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      It sucks. Mirallas is being dropped/subbed regularly

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    3. tw
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      why would you wanna lose ramsey?

      and mirallas seems to be subbed off and is a rotation threat now it seems

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    4. Jafooli
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      Nope not good Loco.

      if you want Everton go for Lukaku, Coleman, Distain, Howard?

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      1. Jafooli
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        Even Barkley as a 5th mid

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    5. ILOVEBAPS
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      Nope! Season keeper. Just bypass him and look elsewhere for transfers.

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    6. The Finnisher
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      I think it's potentially 1 week gain for a season worth of pain.

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    7. OptimusBlack
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      I think getting Everton Defenders or GK is better Then Lukaku if u haven't (Aguero Suarez Rooney)

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    8. LOCO ABREU
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      thanks guys will think

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  20. tw
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    next week which two to bench from GJ (tot), burner (WBA), shaw (new), collins (SUN)?

    and which one to bench from januzaj (avl), ravel (SUN), gerrard (tot), ramsey (mci)?

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    1. The Bandit
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      GJ Shaw Jan

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  21. Valar(Keith)
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    Debuchy at 4.9 averages 1 key pass n 1 shot a game n has SOT cry STK wba in the next 5. Anyone?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Doesn't fit in with the Master Plan.

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    2. Noisy Neighbour
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      Already have him. Unfortunately I bought him the week he picked up that 5th yellow, but I'm hoping for some nice returns from him. A good differential.

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  22. Rinseboy
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    did Rafeal start for utd ?

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    1. Demelbrush
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      yup

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    2. Ghostface
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      yep

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  23. Crouch Potato!
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    Derby win penalty! Soft un!

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    1. Crouch Potato!
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      Derby score pen (Martin) 1-1.

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  24. Demelbrush
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    Why is morrison showing as banned. surely he's okay for next week - 1 game ban?

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    1. MJ6987
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      They just haven't updated his status yet

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      They haven't updated any. Moronic.

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    3. Jafooli
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      Changes after West Ham game starts, I think.

      In case cancelled etc.....

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      1. Jafooli
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        .....if the pitch got flooded before KO or massive traffic jam because of frogs on the road etc

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    4. tw
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      haven't changed it yet

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  25. toxik
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    Had Kev at the start was useless, ditched after a couple of good game weeks and got Cabaye who was a regular 6/7 pointer just dumped him today and waiting for him to score so I could get Aguero/Shelvey

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  26. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    United a midtable side at best. Surely this cant continue?

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    1. Ghostface
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      I can confirm, it won't.

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    2. Scottys Army
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      it can their crap

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  27. Your Mum's Athletic
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    Man United are a joke, such a shame to watch, if it stays like this sort of game, Newcastle will win

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    1. Ghostface
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      kewl

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    2. The Finnisher
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      If it stays like this, it'll be a draw.

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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        Ill take that + evans Bps.

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      2. tw
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        😀

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      3. Crouch Potato!
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        I just can't see anyone scoring if it stays like this tbh!

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      4. Sting
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        lol

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      5. The Bandit
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        😆

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      6. Jafooli
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        😛

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  28. Del Monte
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    When do suspension flags get removed?

    Hoping Morrison doesn't fall tonight.

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    1. ILOVEBAPS
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      Not sure when Flags fall, probably after WHU play.

      He will fall methinks which makes me want to sell.

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  29. toxik
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    Is Moyes vastly overrated? Martinez wasn't wanted by many and he's doing really well, admittedly following SAF is nigh on impossible but no-one would predict MU would be this bad.

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    1. ILOVEBAPS
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      SAF was really helped out last season by RVP. Moyes hasn't had that luxury. SAF is responsible for a shite midfield though, hard to blame Moyes for what he mostly inherited.

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  30. xuwei
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    Even Fellaini is bored by the game.

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