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7 December 2013 4354 comments
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Following another shock home defeat for United, the Gameweek continues with a quintet of three o’clock kick-offs, before an evening encounter at the Stadium of Light as Spurs take on Gus Poyet’s Black Cats.

Our focus will be on our forward lines this afternoon, as both Luis Suarez and Sergio Aguero, sporting the armband for thousands, take on the West Ham and Southampton defences respectively.

It’s fair to say that, after his huge points haul in midweek, our expectations remain high as Suarez looks to puncture a Hammers backline robbed of Winston Reid’s influence. However, Sam Allardcye’s tactics and formation will surely look to stifle the Liverpool attack and it remains to be seen if Suarez will be the obvious captain candidate that our poll suggests.

Aguero could yet be the smarter option – not least because City have the opportunity to expose a Southampton back four without the substantial screen provided by Victor Wanyama and Morgan Schneiderlin. Mauricio Pochettino’s side have been ravaged by recent injuries, giving City and Aguero every chance to capitalise at St Mary’s with a second away win in a week.

Look to our Twitter feed for all the latest teamsheet updates from these two matches and today’s other clashes. Meanwhile, our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open right through to the final whistle on Wearside.

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  1. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Giroud to Rooney, aguero or other? Other two are Luis and Lukaku

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      RvP maybe?

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    2. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Aguero imo

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    3. mgilbert86
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      aguero, easily, not even worth discussing other options

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        But Rooney did really well for me and a fair bit cheaper. It's a toughie.

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        1. mgilbert86
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          utd suck and city do not

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          1. Venom Snake
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            So you would be happy to pay 12.4 for aguero ?

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  2. ccc
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Cylne & Terry to Gabbdon & Jagielka? Yay or nay?

    Gives my Coleman, Jagie, Dawson, Burner & Gabbidon. Everton has great fixtures.

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    1. Zombie
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      As you already have Coleman, what about Kosc instead of Jag?

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      1. ccc
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Kosc has some tough fixtures coming up

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  3. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Edgar Davids got sent of for two yellows today, such a leader 😉

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  4. Blue Teets
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Just had a long stats research-session lads. the trend is set now- crossing is low-probability football.

    Spain scored the most goals in the Euro with the second fewest number of crosses.
    Barca scored the most goals in La Liga with the second fewest number of crosses.
    City have so far scored the most goals with the LEAST number of crosses in the league.

    Manchester United are a statistical anomaly when it comes to crossing as they had a massively higher rate of converting crosses to goals than anyone else. Why? Because they had the best players in the league in those positions. Today they don't.

    Once again, they are leading the league in crossing but have a normal, not even bad just normal, conversion rate and so the goals have dried up.

    Watch the games lately, endless low-quality balls to no one in particular. They are in for a rough ride until Janujaz, Zaha, Jones and Welbeck develop into the players they need to keep it going.

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    1. FACUPARSE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      United won't win the league for 5 years

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    2. Dial Square
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      So you have discovered that crossing is bad unless you have good players - short passing incidentally is bad unless you have good players - playing long balls forward tends not to work unless you have good players - also counterattacking football will tend to fail if you have poor players.

      Good players make a team better...

      Thanks for your research 😉

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Its more identifying that United were a team that was built upon crosses, however, having lost the crossing personnel they havent adapted to play to their strengths. After all whilst I laugh at the squad, the players are better quality than 9th place suggests.

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      2. Blue Teets
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Someone was asleep during critical thinking class I see....

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    3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      great point. i think united should switch to a diamond in midfield and just drop the wingers

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      1. Blue Teets
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yea, the point I'm making is will United stick to wide play until they have the quality or change it now to suit what the have i.e diamond?

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  5. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    No Hazard assist ?

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    1. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Mata I think, I could have sworn it was Hazard myself.

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  6. copps
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    any reason why rooney's flag was removed but not RavMo? he's gonna drop in price tonight unless they lift the flag..

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    1. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Ravel only at 32% dropped

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    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      'tis strange. I guess the fact that Man Utd finished earlier is the only feasible reason.

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  7. Fin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Spurs are more boring than Crystal Palace

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    1. Super PVA - Small Spuds
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Boring game. Rubbish teams

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed. Plus no fantasy interest for me.

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    2. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      We were not boring today, (although you probably wont see much of it on MOTD consigned to 1 min of highlights) At least jug ears will have to eat his words twice over Chamakhs recent performances.

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  8. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    If anyone was wondering...

    Tottenham Hotspur ‏@SpursOfficial
    Vlad Chiriches misses out through injury today.

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  9. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    As much as I want to just do Migs -> Howard right now, since it doesn't look like anyone is close to facing a price drop yet I'll just wait until I hear about Gerrard even though I do have 2 FT atm..

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    1. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Migs is dropping... he's at -99.5% at the moment

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        whoops, only looked at the change today 😆

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      2. Hughes Your Daddy
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Glad I did migs to Speroni this morning 🙂

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    2. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Migs should drop tonight

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        whoops, only looked at the change today 😆

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        1. Messiah Hazard
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Do you think Howard is right choice or will Jagielka score more..

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          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            well I already have Coleman is the thing

            who else would you consider? Marshall or Guzan?

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            1. Messiah Hazard
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Guzan is what I m looking at

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              1. sinik
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                after United or immediately?

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  10. rvp786
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    gerrard to hazard is on the cards for me this week with 2fts. need 0.8m though

    who to ship to fund it??

    panty lewis
    coleman chico burner chester skrtel
    morrison ozil ramsey gerrard nasri
    lukaku aguero suarez

    A) panty >>> 4.2m keeper
    B) chico or skrtel to a cheapo
    C) ozil to a 9.6m or lower

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  11. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    anyone know why moxey got only 24 mins? took a hit to bring him in as palace defender.....cant catch a break this year 🙁

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    1. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He got injured 🙁 hopefully back soon, been great for us.

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  12. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Time for a slight differential captain netx week

    Remy (C)

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'm transferring him out 😯

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      1. mgilbert86
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        what on earth, have you seen his fixtures?

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        1. Chris_White
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Just more fond of Lukaku

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      2. Alaric
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Please don't transfer him out. Goal-a-game for the next few imo, and Newcastle's confidence is sky-high at the moment

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        1. FACUPARSE
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          they did also just lose to Swansea 3-0.

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  13. Gubborr
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    That front three of Ronaldo, Suarez and Bale..

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    1. BenDavies
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A FIFA Career Mode-like front three

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  14. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    No own goals or cards today Phillip.

    Last game: 1 goal [6pts], 1 OG [-2pts], 1yc [-1pt], 90mins [2pts], 4 goals conceded [-2pts] = 3pts 😆

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Phillip?

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Bardsley

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      2. k.akshay92
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Bardsley, I think.

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      3. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Who else scores own goals for fun?

        Exciting player to have! You never know what he'll do next...

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Ah I see, yeah I have had some fun patches with the lad.Thinking mans Wes Brown

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  15. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Can I have some thoughts on this please, seeing as they're all highly likely to rise. Shall I do it today?

    Chico, Skrtel and Cabaye to Distin, Ben Turner and Hazard for a -4?

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Or maybe Clyne out.

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      1. Super PVA - Small Spuds
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Long term it works, but cabbage looks good

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  16. Mr.B
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    When is Baines expected to return?

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  17. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    2 week punt on speroni over marshall/panti worked out better than i thought ...... thank you pulis

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  18. Thomass
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Lads can anyone link me the 2nd or 1st chelsea goal thanks and was it a hazard assist?

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  19. mgilbert86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Really disappointed again by defenders this weekend.

    Who are now the best options?

    Crystal Palace, Arsenal, Everton... any others?

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    1. Alaric
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Double up on Everton and get a Newcastle defender for the next 4 weeks

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    2. Super PVA - Small Spuds
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I have had it for weeks now. Downgraded all and have ozil, ya, ram, haz, agu, Suarez, roo front line now

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  20. olidooley
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    2FT and no idea what to do!

    Migs

    Terry Merte Burner
    Ozil Sess Whitts Ravel
    S A R

    4.0 Januzaj Fonte Gabbidon

    Would love Lukaku but loathe to lose Aguero
    Need to upgrade Sess but waiting for Walcott/Silva/Michu to show up
    Would get rid of Terry to finance but he has a good fixture next
    Migs to Howard can wait a week also

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    1. spoonlord
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      i'd rooney to lukaku and sex up whitts or sess.

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  21. Mak_Gold
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry if this has been asked before but did Suarez get one assist or two?

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        he should get 2 but dont count on fpl towers robbing it ..... like gerrards mid week 😉

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          that made no sense, where is TM correcting my posts.....im lost

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      2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        apology accepted

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      3. AgUer0!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        or 2 goal?

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    • Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Getting Yaya in seems so wrong

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        not lookin at his point history....

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I've watched Citys games though.. invisible most of the time

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          1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            well for some reason hes scorin points lol ... i cant afford so may go oscar or even wally if im feelin adventurous

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      2. mgilbert86
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        i'd wait till after arsenal game personally and look at oscar this coming week

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Got Hazard And Ramsey.. Still, Oscar could be an option

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      3. BenDavies
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        But it feels so right

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    • Super-Hans
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Bannan 1st sub. Walcott, Ôzil, Benteke and Giroud to play. All of them will either start or get a cameo, right?

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      1. Alaric
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Did Bannan get any attacking points?

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    • kimoo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Mert > Jagielka for free

      Yes

      No

      other Def : GJ / Ward / Burner / Coleman

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    • Aditya K
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      1 assist and the other one pending..most likely will stay as an assist

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    • TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Evening all 🙂

      Low score all round?

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        indeed

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      2. Thomass
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Evening yes I scored 33 points

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      3. Derailed Bandwagon
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Fairly. 40 points pre baps with possibly Suarez C and Bannan assist being added.

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    • AarÖn Özilski
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Benteke - Terry - Gerrard ---> Lukaku - Coleman - Hazard (-8)

      Worth it ?

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      1. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Im keeping Terry for a couple more fixtures. Fulham and Palace!

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          excpect nothin at palace 😉

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        2. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Nice fixtures hasn't helped them so far

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          1. AarÖn Özilski
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            This is the reason why I'm taking him out. Good fixtures but poor returns.

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            1. Super PVA - Small Spuds
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Already gone after price rise

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      2. mgilbert86
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Benteke-2
        Terry-6
        Gerrard-0

        Hazard-2
        Lukaku-8
        Coleman-6

        -8

        =same

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        1. AarÖn Özilski
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Never thought it on that way. Thanks dude 🙂

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      3. - DC -
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Nah, Terry is a good option this coming week. Whilst Lukaku, Coleman and Hazard are all good transfers, - 8 is just too much. Personally I'd just do, Benteke out for Lukaku and Gerrard out for Hazard.

        - 4 for that is worth it in my opinion. Taking a - 8 for a defender is just too much and can easily backfire.

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        1. AarÖn Özilski
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks mate. Will keep it till last minute to do any transfers this week.

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          1. - DC -
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Same here.

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    • Wirtzle Gummidge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Over 500 people have just bought Cabaye.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        jeez

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Didn't he fall off the tightrope today? 😆

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      3. Declan
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        but he scored, isnt that how it works?

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Not just scored, scored against United!

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            you say that like it's difficult

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      4. FACUPARSE
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        haahahaha

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        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Lol, is he now suspended ? 😀

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      5. Not Irish
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Look at his point haul of late.

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    • Limbo
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Evans + Skrtel transferred in 4 GW's back for some favourable fixtures. So far accrued 7 points, benched once and 2 own goals between them... That's how you make the most from your defence, that is.

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    • sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      alright lads, bit of advice needed..

      Mignolet, Lewis
      Terry, Coleman, Mertesacker, Clyne, Burner
      Hazard, Gerrard, Ramsey, Ravel, Januzaj
      Lukaku, Suarez, Aguero

      2 FT, 0.8 available

      Mignolet -> Howard

      and then wait on Gerrard news for the other FT? maybe Yaya?

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      1. Messiah Hazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Mert to Jagielka and then in GW18 get back Mert for Terry... Keep Migs if money is not an issue

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        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          that's a clever one there...

          who else do you like in keep? Mignolet is too expensive to keep giving up CS if you ask me..might take a punt on Marshall at some point..hoping to only use 1 FT this week if Gerrard turns out to be ok..

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          1. Messiah Hazard
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Guzan as I replied above or Marshall is a good option

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Guzan looks better side by side until GW21, might have to go him tonight and then wait on Gerrard news before shipping Mert

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