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The Big Numbers – Gameweek 16

16 December 2013 3991 comments
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A number of midfielders are placed under the spotlight, with Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Liverpool all serving up some strong statistics. The performance of United’s frontmen at Villa and Tottenham’s inability to find the net under the now-departed Andre Boas-Villa also come under analysis as we delve into the data.

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  1. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Did anybody else check out Wally's stats last week and avg position ?...compare him to Giroud and/or Aguero...It's good stuff.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'll go have a look now

      Thanks

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      1. Mash Potato
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        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        If it was anything like it was before he was injured, he plays advanced of Girood on average.

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    2. Freshy
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Giroud seemed more the wing player than Wally

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      • 12 Years
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      http://talksport.com/football/premier-league/match/2013-12-14/manchester-city-v-arsenal

      Walcott average position - He's a FWD.

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Oh..never used that site before..thanks...

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          • 12 Years
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          I think it's probably average positions based on touches, rather than movement. Not sure how they normally work.

          For instance, I think it might sometimes be misleading when teams get thrashings because of the strikers taking the kick offs - eg Soldado 6-0 vs City... and perhaps Giroud on Saturday.

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      2. Colonel Wasabi
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        Ditto - thank you.

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    4. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I am half tempted to give him the armband.

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  2. Liastro ⭐️
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    AVB sacked by Spuds in less than half a season.

    Moyes will probably still be at United whatever happens this year.

    Which team will fare better in the long run? My guess is that it won't be the one from London.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      You deserve a + 1 as its not a RMT

      Hatoff

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    2. Declan
      • 16 Years
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      Man U will always be better than Spurs.

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      1. Yank Revolution
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        This. And they'll spend their way out of their current problems faster than Levy will imo.

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    3. Gaz Downright
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      AVB spent close to 1.5 seasons at Spurs.

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  3. Matt
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Dawson > GJ for a hit?

    Rest of defence is
    Howard Lewis
    Turner Vlaar Chester McAuley X

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    1. Matt
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      or Zaba

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    2. Declan
      • 16 Years
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      Hell no.

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    3. KunBaYaya My Lord
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Nope! I think GJ will get a cleanie this weekend but if you do a -4 you'll get 2 points. Anyone from your bench must be able to get a 2 pointer.

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  4. JS27
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Finally lost patience with Terry. Who to replace him with?

    a - Jagielka (already have Coleman)
    b - Mertesacker
    c - J.Evans
    d - Zabaleta

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    1. brianutd-why always we? 20
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Mert

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    2. Freshy
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      Jags till WC

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  5. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    There seems to be a lot more casual success stories on here than last season.

    #Yaya #Ramsey

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    1. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I've succumbed to one, refuse to succumb to the other.

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      #Kolarov

      Kidding.

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    3. KunBaYaya My Lord
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Agreed Ramsey kinda came out of nowhere.

      But Yaya averages 140-150 points a season and he is now on free kicks. So him doing better this season isn't a "casual success"

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Have you seen Yaya's goals so far this season?

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        1. KunBaYaya My Lord
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah I have he usually gets 6th goals a season add in free kicks and I expected that he would score more goals. A player who gets on average 150 points a year is not a casual success story.

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      2. Kazza_
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        yaya will be top 5 mids end of the season, bookmark it!

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    4. Matt
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      On one hand it's annoying, but on the other, it does make my mini leagues much more interesting

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    5. Hibbo
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      Bit ignorant this derogatory use of casual.

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    6. Gaz Downright
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      If there are, it is purely down to the obsession with this semi-imaginary "casual" player having increased

      #bollox

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      1. KunBaYaya My Lord
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        +1

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  6. Ribus
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Best defender for the next 2-3 games

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    1. Ribus
      • 12 Years
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      under 4.5?

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
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        Martin Olsson

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      2. Freshy
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        Flanagan

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        1. Freshy
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          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          NM just for 1 game

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  7. Trigg ⭐️
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    So, did anyone actually go ahead with the -12 or -16 they were planning to do last night? 😆

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  8. thetinkerman
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Posted this earlier today but it was lost among the CL draw posts so I thought I'd go for it again.

    I thought I'd throw together a quick table to look at players who are having a large amount of shots in order to examine the quality of those shots by looking at things like big chance conversion, the percentage of goal attempts in the box, shot accuracy and goal conversion.

    Before looking, I was interested to know about players like Soldado, Paulinho and Remy, who have been accused of having misleading stats in the sense that they have a large amount of shots but few goals to show for it.

    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/4606/

    After a quick look, I was interested by the following:

    - Paulinho, Sess, Benteke and surpisingly Walcott's big chance conversion
    - Özil, Wally, Chamak, Arnautovic, Sess, Ravmo, Cabaye, Giroud and Paulinho's shot accuracy

    Raddy pointed out that Berba in the last 3 GWs is interesting (filer by GW range). Anyone else find some interesting stats?

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I love these posts.

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      How are remys stats tink ?

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      1. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Pay up.

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    3. Freshy
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Crosses by Elmo

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    4. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Great stuff. Look at Walcott for the City game alone, incredible.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Nice

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    5. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Girouds Donkey status confirmed, 29% shot accuracy(inaccuracy) 😯

      Emile Heskey eat your heart out.

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    6. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      This is quite an interesting stat...ICT threat index per team comprising of iaccumalative threat ratings from all players within a team...The top team has been romping it for weeks...http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/3846/

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Might double down again when a certain injured striker returns

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      2. Colonel Wasabi
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        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Surprised at WBA being equal second goal attempts team. Awful conversion rate 🙁

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      3. FISSH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Gonna keep Sess...

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    7. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I read it and did not understand it but it was green so I up voted it.

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        credibility soaring to even newer heights

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        You can't even see the table.

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  9. Ray In Bruges.
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    A) Aguero + Sess > Negredo + Silva
    B) Aguero + Sess > Negredo + Walcott
    C) Aguero + Ozil > Negredo + Walcott
    D) Augero + Ozil + Sess > Negredo + Silva + Walcott (-4)

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    1. champ20ns
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      B all day long

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      1. brianutd-why always we? 20
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        Bravo

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    2. Colonel Wasabi
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      • 12 Years
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      Glad to see you're back from Dubai 😉

      B

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  10. Alejo - CFC
    • 12 Years
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    Worth taking the -4 hit to do Sess -> Yaya ?

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      • 12 Years
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      All day.

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    2. Deulo10
      • 13 Years
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      Definitely.

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    3. champ20ns
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      • 13 Years
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      i wouldnt do it this game week, think sess could be out to impress whoever is going to come in to replace clarke.

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  11. Deulo10
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Thinking about getting a United defender...who should it be though? Rafael, Jones or Evans?

    Leaning towards Rafael as he impressed in the last game..

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    1. Parm
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Evans

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Rafa for me if he's affordable

        I'm getting JEvans this week I think. Terry can feck right off

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        1. Deulo10
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Haha should've gotten rid long ago 😛 But yeah do it..

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        2. Parm
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          • 14 Years
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          Tempted to do Koscielny to Evans for another hit alongside Aguero & Brady ➡ Lukaku & Silva, but I think i'll resist.

          Saw a discussion today on who the next United captain should be(on Redcafe I think), a majority opted for Evans over Jones, am I missing something about Evans, as surely Jones is the natural born leader?

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            in order to afford Brady to Walcott I need to do Terry to Evans

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            1. Parm
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              • 14 Years
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              Do it.

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    2. champ20ns
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      evans

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      1. Deulo10
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers everybody. My only worry with Evans is that he might get rotated. Not sure if it's the same with Rafael or not.

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    3. Bad Pen
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Looking at it myself as I think I need rid of Terry, the current top choice replacement for me is Rafael.

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      1. Deulo10
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah I like that he gets a lot of crosses in (attacking potential). My only worry is if he is nailed on or not..

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    4. Lord Flashheart
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Ddg

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  12. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Liverpool owe so much to Kenny Dalglish for bringing them their only success is so many years.
    He bought Suarez.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I slated him season before last as his finishing was laughable.

      Hes improved so much

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      1. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        He hasn't improved tbh, he's always been this good, more things are just coming off now

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    2. copps
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      and henderson

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    3. Demí
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Canceled out by paying 50m for Carroll though. Criminal

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        *£35m

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          He didn't pay £35m for Carroll you know, he paid -£25m, as they sold Torres 😉

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          1. KunBaYaya My Lord
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Still a bit much for a player who scored 13 goals once.

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  13. Stevee10001
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    well think im gona take a hit and a slight punt here guys

    krul
    coleman zabba evans collins baker

    ozil ramsey hazard whit morrison

    aguero lukaku suarez

    aguero + ozil > rooney + silva (-4)

    was going to do negredo but felt like i was putting all my eggs in one basket...

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    1. champ20ns
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      i really dont like ozil to silva for a hit

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      1. Colonel Wasabi
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        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I've resisted that too.
        Ozil on fewer yellow if that makes any difference !

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  14. champ20ns
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any thoughts on this for -8...

    Aguero + Brady + Terry to Negredo + Walcott + Evans?

    Madness?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      Me likey

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    2. Deulo10
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sounds good. One's injured, one doesn't start and one never gets any clean sheets.

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  15. Iwantmorepointsthanks
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Have to bench one... but who?

    Ramsey (CHE), Walcott (CHE) , Hazard (ars), Silva (ful), Cabaye (cry)

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    1. champ20ns
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      what is your front three with that midfield? probably cabaye

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      1. Iwantmorepointsthanks
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks.

        I have Suarez, Negredo and Lukaku.

        does that change anything?

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Cabaye

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      1. Iwantmorepointsthanks
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        cheers!

        will do. last time he had 10 points on the bench hahaha. just my luck.

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  16. ppp
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Aguero to Rooney (free) plus take a hit for:

    1. Ozil to Yaya
    2. Ozil to Walcott
    3. Save
    4. Sod Rooney, do Aguero+Shelvey to Silva/Yaya+Negredo (and downgrade Ozil next week)

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    1. ppp
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      BTW, leaning towards 1 but with silva (should have said yaya/silva), as I'd like city cover this week, although very undecided on what city mid...

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  17. pit creature
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Aguero, Barkley, Cech > Negredo, Silva , Howard

    8point hit

    Fortune favours the brave?!

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    1. Colonel Klink
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Worried about Silva on 4 yellows? That's one deterrent for me.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I once worried about Cabaye on 4 yellows

        As a result I ended up with Sess

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        1. Colonel Klink
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I rue the day I took the Sess plunge.

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      2. pit creature
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        He's only got to avoid it for 3 games. And it would only be a one match ban anyway.

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        1. Colonel Klink
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I think I'm going Silva, myself.

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  18. Dr. Rog
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    RMT

    Migs (Given)
    Zaba Coleman Kos (Ward/Chester)
    Haz Wally Silva Barkley/Sterling
    Suarez Rooney Lukaku

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      You know it's good.

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    2. decisions
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      v nice

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    3. KunBaYaya My Lord
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Captain Given this weekend trust me.

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  19. Tobiathan
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Anybody know if I can use the January wildcard in December?

    🙂

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Of course you can ....

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/omgwtf.gif.pagespeed.ce.2JLuFTkmGG.gif

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    3. KunBaYaya My Lord
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      You even called it a JANUARY wildcard. What about those words make you think you could use it in December

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      1. Tobiathan
        • 14 Years
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        joking you total git

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        1. KunBaYaya My Lord
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Clever joke when is amateurs night.

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  20. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So is Yaya now a legit pick?

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    1. Deulo10
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Sadly looks like it 🙁

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    2. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      just got him. Pens an FK's and no rotation risk.

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    3. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
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      Sure is. He is one of the best picks around.

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  21. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    You win Yaya. Welcome to my team.

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  22. The Chosen One...
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Remy or Negredo?

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      remy

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    2. Mike Skinner
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Negredo for me

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  23. Vpan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Aguero, Brady, Clyne -> Lukaku, Silva, Ward for -8 hit!

    Madness?

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    1. Tobiathan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Desperate times call for desperate measures

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  24. Mash Potato
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    • 12 Years
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    This.

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  25. Alberto Tomba
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Excellent article, if only I could give it upvotes 🙂

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      give them to me and 'll pass them on one day

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  26. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    5.4m def.. Distin or Evans? already have Coleman.

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Jevans

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      JEvans all day

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  27. Killitzer
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Evening all.

    Couple of questions. If a player is red flagged can they drop in price?

    Remy + Terry --> Rooney + Chester or
    Remy--> negredo

    Cheers

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    1. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

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  28. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    is there anything more depressing than the 7mil sort of area for midfielders. it's not just this season either, i find that part of the list pretty offensive every season

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      And I bought 2 of them last GW, Kagawa and Sess 😥 what was I thinking.

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    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Thay why i take hits early on every season to build tv..The big hitters eventually come through

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        does it help you rise up the rankings in the 2nd half of the season though?

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        1. Optimus.
          • 15 Years
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          Yes in my experience

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    3. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
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      Hopefully Eriksen comes to the rescue soon.

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
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        Think so

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    4. pit creature
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Mirallas is definitely worth considering if you don't already have 3 everton players.

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  29. rvp786
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    someone said ozil is dropping tonight? not according to totalfpl??

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      selling him before a home game is risky

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      1. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I'm thinking of selling Ramsey for Walcott and keeping Ozil

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        1. rvp786
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          is he dropping in price tonight?

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          1. Optimus.
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Who Ramsey?..No hes actually on the rise 🙂

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  30. Doar1986
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Is dzecko worth a punt with aguero injured, or just play it safe with negrado

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