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28 December 2013 4349 comments
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The Gameweek continues with a quartet of three o’clock kick-offs, culminating in a relegation scrap in South Wales as Cardiff host basement dwellers Sunderland.

All eyes will be on the Manchester clubs, however, as City and United face fixtures that, on paper, look profitable for Fantasy mangers. Wayne Rooney’s relentless form has another opportunity to come to the fore at Carrow Road, while City’s Etihad juggernaut has its engines running and is aimed squarely at the bus likely to be parked by Tony Pulis’ Palace.

We’re expecting big points all round and a potential rollercoaster of an afternoon before the evening clash brings us back down to a simmer.

As always, look to our Twitter feed for the latest teamsheet news while our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to cater for your real-time chatter needs.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. k.akshay92
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Chester is nowhere near the ball for the Huddlestone free kick. What are people on about? http://www.tsmplug.com/football/highlights/hull-city-6-0-fulham-2013-full-match-motd-video/

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    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Think it's the goal before that one

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    2. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Hudd's first one

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      1. k.akshay92
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Maybe because he's outside the box, and the ball is deflected from its intended path so many times?

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  2. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    fpl not working?

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      It's probably for the best...

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    2. rdpx
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      nope

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  3. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Silva and Ramsey to Ozil and Sterling -4

    Got to be a no brainer right? Or I could bench Silva and hope Januzaj plays v Spurs?

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    1. copps
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      exact same moves as me. figure they surely should be able to cover that -4 between them looking at the opposition

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I like it.

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I'm offloading Williams and Clyne

      4-3-3- for me this week

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    4. rdpx
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      who are your other mids?

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Walcott Hazard Januzaj

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  4. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Wally,Ozil or Yaya?

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Yaya.

      Rested today so will be raring to go

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  5. mucka
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    .1 off doing Walcott > Silva. Such a di*khead for getting that yellow aggghhh.

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  6. FPL FREAK
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Hi guys… SILVA is suspended for next week should I swap him for WALCOTT……?? My mid will b weak if he wouldnt change forvnext week……. hve 0.2 in bank n 1ft plz advice

    Mignolet£5.5 Boruc£4.6 

    Clark£4.5 Zabaleta£6.0Distin£5.2 Turner£4.3 Ward£4.0 

    Silva£9.3 Özil£10.1 Cabaye£6.6 Morrison£4.8 Bannan£4.4 

    Negredo£9.6 Rooney£11.3 Suárez£12.0

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    1. FPL FREAK
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Plz help guyz......!!

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      1. rdpx
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        walcott is good

        wait see what he does tomorrow?

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        1. FPL FREAK
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          I have just 0.2 in bank if i should hve to get wally it should b today or else his price will rise...... Wat u say....??

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          1. copps
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            not sure he will rise today but will be close

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            1. FPL FREAK
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Should i go for it......???

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        2. Colonel Wasabi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          This….
          Wait to be certain he doesn't get injured then sounds like a good switch.

          You can then choose to drop Ozil or Walcott for Citeh player subsequently if you want to get back to Silva or Yoyo

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  7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    How fate played out

    If dzeko had not scored it would have been silva to yaya with silva coming off with 3 pts ready for swansea

    instead dzeko scored, yaya sat down. Milner picked up a knock and kolarov came on, Silva got a yellow and is out of the game v swansea and yaya is fresh as a daisy for swansea.

    All turned on that instance. Fate people, fate.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      + 1

      also people moan when it suits , if the rules favoured them there would be no moaning.

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Exactly, all down to luck.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yep this week is an example of how fpl is a lot about luck

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        1. Colonel Wasabi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Sounds like a long discussion earlier in the season when Tinkerman was seeking opinions.

          Not luck….but educated guesswork ?

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    3. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Fate vs. Free Will...

      We really going to have this debate on FFS?

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  8. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Re: Forca's VC discussion

    It's true to an extent.

    Anyone thinking Zabaleta/Yaya was gauaranteed 90 mins and left the armband on either one of them (Someone here captained Zabs) really does not deserve the VC points.

    Pretty obvious that they were rotation risks, especially Zabaleta..

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    1. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Nice username.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      But you should get a VC for an injury.

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        + 1

        if you pick a captain and theres no injury announced pre deadline its hardly bad management from us.

        so the VC rule is spot on

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    3. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Dat name 😎

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    4. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I'll try again:

      Very obvious from looking at Yaya's minutes in a City shirt.

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    5. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      are you nate?

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        No

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        1. Not Irish
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Your mom goes to college.

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  9. Ludo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    The GW Dream Team looks like it's been hacked by a Hull fan.

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  10. ktk_interista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone able to field 10 players for this week? I doubt.

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    1. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      All 11 here

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Assuming all start tomorrow, which they should

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I have 14

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    3. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Should have 12 playing

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    4. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Have 12

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    5. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      9 max, that includes Lukaku

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    6. Essan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      12 here so far - though obviously we don't know who might be rested tomorrow.

      And that's with Ramsey on the bench

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    7. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      11 here

      its why i formed a strong squad

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    8. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Nope we all have 11 & some of us magically have 4 Hull mids too!

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    9. Brouhaha
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      that when you need to start taking hits!

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    10. Colonel Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Yep.
      But been hitting a lot in recent weeks.
      Hoping that TV will be good for WC and the run-in….and that flukey weeks like this when people have a lot of players out will minimise the negative points impact.

      It's all a risk…...

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      1. Colonel Wasabi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        *yep - as in should be fielding a full team plus 2 on bench after Rooney & Howard out.

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  11. Lloyd Xmas
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Rooney re-occurence of groin strain but will be back for Spurs.
    All very dodgy to me,think something is going on there.

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      banging grannies with zimmer frames has its drawbacks

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    2. rdpx
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      coked up for xmas?

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    3. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      You ever pulled your groin / hammy?

      They're nagging SOBs.

      So easy to be ready one week & down the next...

      Also, what's suspect about resting your top player for an upcoming home game vs. a key opponent?

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      1. Lloyd Xmas
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Why not just say he is rested then?

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        1. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Guess what I'm driving at here is who cares about the word(s) used...

          Rested.
          Injured.
          Resting a nagging injury.
          Recurring injury.
          Etc. Etc. Etc.

          It changes nothing & there's hardly anything sinister about it...
          Especially when we know how cagey Moyes is about relaying injury news anyway.

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  12. BMox81
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    I see Evs has had a monster jam having Chester as first sub coming in for Rooney along with a double Utd clean sheet.

    When your luck is in.....

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    1. Barry Woj
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      It's hardly luck. We all know we need a strong bench in the Christmas season and Utd's defence has been threatening shut outs for a long time.

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      1. BMox81
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Like last week you mean?

        Course there is a luck element-he expected Rooney to play and now has a jammy CS out of it.

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    2. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I had Chester coming in as 1st sub until Kolarov was brought on, Lol.

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    3. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Luck ?!

      I lost 3 cleansheets in 3 mins two gameweeks back with Chester, DDG & Evans,

      So I think that make me equal.

      Swings and roundabouts and all that 😉

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Ha ha, I had 2 chelsea for weeks and then git rid of one before the Arsenal 0-0. Can't buy points for my defence this year

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      2. BMox81
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        You and the ultimate dullard Jonty are like the only two who didn't take a hit and then this happens.

        Admit you got lucky and we can move on.

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          With Chester, yes.

          With DDG & Evans no, they were picks and selected/transferred for a reason.

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        2. copps
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Mr McDouchebag

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  13. Darsh
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Bonus points for today's completed matches:

    West Ham VS West Brom
    3 Points (20 BPS): Anelka
    2 Points (13 BPS): Maiga
    1 Point (12 BPS): Nolan

    Man City VS Crystal Palace
    3 Points (11 BPS): Dzeko Navas
    1 Point (10 BPS): Kompany

    Aston Villa VS Swansea
    3 Points (10 BPS): Agbonlahor
    2 Points (9 BPS): Hernandez Lamah

    Hull VS Fulham
    3 Points (17 BPS): Huddlestone
    2 Points (15 BPS): Koren
    1 Point (11 BPS): Elmohamady

    Norwich City VS Man Utd
    3 Points (10 BPS): Vidic Evra Evans

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    1. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Welbeck will get 3

      Winning goal

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      1. Bob.
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        He only played the 45 mins though so may get less?

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      2. Darsh
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Already accounted for, if I'm not wrong.

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    2. k.akshay92
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      They'll change as winning goal baps are added.

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  14. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    i still think that VC option is terrible

    people would pick C more carefully if there wasn't that silly ,, helper ''

    it's interesting how only bitter Rooney C ****** crying all the time

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    1. copps
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      or maybe give half points to VC

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      1. copps
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        actually, that doesnt make sense. half points would mean no captain 😆

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      2. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        i was about to post that , but realized that that dos not make any sense

        VC option should be disallowed

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    2. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I like the VC rule. If you're captain is randomly injured it's not anyone's fault. I captained Rooney and vice-captained Yaya, that's just the way it goes.

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      1. FPL Emu
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        You were unlucky. I was unlucky. Rooney was not rested, no way. And something like that is so hard (impossible) to foresee, especially in combination with a Yaya resting, which almost never happens.

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    3. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      So you are suggesting to increase the variance even more.

      I don't think it's possible to agree less.

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    4. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      lol

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    5. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I don't think you've thought your argument through. You're just bitter captaining Suarez isn't as differential as it was.

      At the end of the day, captaincy as a whole adds a degree of luck. But if a player gets injured, unannounced, then that misfortune shouldn't be punished. Therefore vc must stay if captaincy does.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Well said

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      2. FPL Emu
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        +1

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    6. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      again.. really? you got massacred 2 pages ago for spouting this BS.

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    7. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      If I valued your opinion I'd give it some thought! 😉

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    8. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Enjoy your theme song mate!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

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  15. copps
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    the way silva lunged i reckon he wanted to miss the next game lol. such an awful tackle

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    1. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      not sure why he did it.few minutes left,no pressure whatsoever,tackled on the center of the pitch.awful decision.

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  16. FPL Notebook (John)
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Even the FPL site has had enough this week

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  17. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Clyne likely to play this weekend?

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    1. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      His knock is getting a bit tedious

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  18. Bob.
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Reckon Ravel will play next gw? Need him to with Silva on the bench! May do Ravel -> Ki if he is still not fit

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    1. Little Dancer
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Was thinking of the same move. Would also like to hear opinions on Ravel's situation.

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  19. boombaba
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    best 3 x 9.4m midfields or below....

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    1. For Fuchs Sake
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      that is a big defender!! good luck finding one.

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    2. Alejo - CFC
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Krul
      Terry Coleman GJ Ward Burner
      Hazard Cabaye Yaya Barkley Ravel
      Lukaku Suarez Rooney

      What do do??

      Maybe Januzaj ..

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  20. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    After this captain massacre I just want my Suarez(c) to score a single goal.. C'mon bucktooth

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    1. rdpx
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      i want him to get a hat trick.

      aim high.

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    2. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Hatrick would be good. Especially with my ML leader captaining Negredo

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  21. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Only if WC was available in GW20.....

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  22. Sheldon420
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Dead cup team has Nolan (c)...

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    1. Barry Woj
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Now that is lucky!

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  23. Pablitto
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    2nd consecutive week 2 points captaincy ... why doesn't GOD love me?

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  24. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Look at Cabral on that bench.

    Game changers should start 😉

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    1. chandramouli
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      omg cabral.. kept him since gw 1... finally his 2nd start..

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  25. k.akshay92
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Pre-Cardiff game average score: 7.73

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    1. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      appalling.

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Hmmm, perhaps this was not the week for an 8 pointer... 🙁

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    1. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I had one too, but at the moment i'm 18 (-8) from 4

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    2. Colonel Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Then again - you lose less ground if no-one scores big….?

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  27. asdasdasdadasdasda
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    is it just me or the FPL site is down?
    🙁

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    1. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Me too

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    2. rdpx
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      its just you

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      1. Goaldigger
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        It works for you?

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  28. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Remember lads, it's just a game. Time to take a few punts before the WC.

    Thinking Cazorla vs Cardiff or Dempsey vs West Ham?

    Will Deuce be available to play on Jan 1st?

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I am hot on Cazorla. But will he start for sure?

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  29. vballer
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Guys if it makes you feel better, there's no point crying over Rooney's disappearance. Don't commit the outcome bias. i.e. Don't judge a past decision by its ultimate outcome instead of based on the quality of the decision at the time it was made, given what was known at that time.

    Though of course, having suarez VC and de gea and chester playing makes me happier haha

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    1. Colonel Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Sounds like sod's law to me 😀

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  30. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    I have 10.0 for two defenders. What's the best combo?

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