[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
19 January 2014 3121 comments
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The Gameweek continues with a pair of Sunday afternoon encounters, beginning with Tottenham’s trip to South Wales as they take on Swansea, before Chelsea and United see us into the Sunday roast with a would-be classic at the Bridge.

Fantasy managers are likely to have plenty invested in today’s matches, with recent differentials Christian Eriksen and Emmanuel Adeabayor on show at the Liberty, while Eden Hazard and Oscar will carry the hopes for many in the 4pm kick-off.

The team news from Swansea finds the home side make just one change: Chico returns to the starting XI and takes his place alongside Ashley Williams, allowing Jordi Amat to shift to midfield to cover for the injured Jose Canas. Tim Sherwood also makes just one change to the Spurs starting lineup that saw off Palace last time out. Roberto Soldado’s season continues to go from bad to worse as he’s dropped to the bench. It’s a 4-5-1 from the visitors, then, as Nacer Chadli is drafted in with Christian Eriksen perhaps set to be pushed up behind Emmanuel Adebayor.

As usual, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open to capture the real-time rise and fall in fortunes as today’s matches unfold.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Lazarus
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Quick question for United fans. This is a serious question and not intended to wind you guys up btw!

    Would you have preferred Mourinho to succeed Fergie?

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Not a United fan, but I think any PL club would like Jose as their manager, with the exception of perhaps Arsenal.

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      1. Lazarus
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        True, but it seems that United was the job that Jose really wanted.

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        1. onionbarje
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          i don't believe that, he loves Chelsea. He said he wanted to go back to the club where he was loved last year and that was Chelsea

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            He says a lot of things which are lapped up by people on face value. I think he wanted the United job too. He might still want it, given the praise he keeps placing on the club and their handling of Moyes.

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          2. Lanley Staurel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            Media sound bites. It's oblogs and I can't believe people fall for it.

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      2. Debauchy
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah Arsenal fans stuck through the bleak years but still favour the beautifull game.

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      3. jmcclory123
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Arsenal fan, was getting incredibly frustrated when Wenger had seemed to have signed no one during the summer, lost opening game to Aston Villa and would have loved Mourinho then. Have to hand it to him, he had faith in Ramsey and Giroud and it paid off and Ozil has been a timely, premium signing. I think it's important for the team to win something this year, even if it's only the fa cup

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        1. Debauchy
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          With You. Gotta love how Wenger brought a much more exciting style to the club.
          With you again Will take FA Cup and be a happy lad.

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    3. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      no, he would have been able to get in decent players, but he would leave within 2 years (because of his loyalty to Chelsea) and a team like Man U needs stability

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      1. subzero
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        so you want mid table stability in long run .. cheers

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        1. onionbarje
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          give it two seasons maximum and we will be back into the top 4

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      2. Lazarus
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not sure about this. I think Jose had his sights set on the United job, even over Chelsea.

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    4. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Nope. Look at united history. Never had a manager outside the UK.

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    5. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      nope, he needs oney, united dont haver it

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        money

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  2. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    nice cross iva.............

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    1. Mojo Rojo
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      He really is dreadful

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  3. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Oscar might be great punt for next week. Alredy have Haz.

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    1. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Seeing how he plays today.

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  4. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Time and time again, Valencia's crosses do nothing.

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      still better than most of our wingers which is worrying

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Not having a dig at Valencia really. More how we don't really have any other method of attack.

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        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          This sounds reaaally good. Let me resume your discussion.

          1. All your attack is Valencia's crosses.
          2. Valencia's crosses do nothing.
          3. Yet, the rest of your wingers give even worse crosses.

          So, you have one method of attack and it does nothing. Good grief.

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  5. 4-4-who?
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I can't get odds anywhere on Chelsea 1-0. Help!!!

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    1. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Try live in play- next goalscorer, no goalscorer

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    2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Dont ....they'll score again

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  6. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    2-0 Chelsea will result in me winning over £1000.. :O *Fingers crossed!*

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Good Luck

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Good luck! What was the accumulator?

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      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks! Had single bets on Tottenham to win 3-1 and Chelsea to win 2-0 and then both in a double 🙂

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        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Very nice! Buy us next year's FFS membership if it comes in lol 😀

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        2. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          oh shiiiiii.....

          That's great gambling man, I actually hope you make it.

          I think Chelsea will score more than two, though. Moyes has to show he has some balls, even small ones, and go on attack when they are down, especially if and when they get 2 goals down.

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    3. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Will be back later to congratulate. Hope.

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    4. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      mmm unless it was at half time - guess you betta lay off ?

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  7. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    😆 Evra can't be your best goal threat...

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Cheap shot with RVP + Rooney out!

      Who would you say is Chelsea's best goal threat? A midfielder. Right.... 😉

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      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Oh let him joke. And Hazard would be the best goal threat for many teams. Actually, I'm surprised they have yet to play him as false nine, he did that very successfully in his last campaign with Lille.

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    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yes he can!

      ...whose campaign was that again?

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  8. Mojo Rojo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Wonder who Eto'o was pointing at when he was celebrating

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Lampard turned back to check too. I really don't know what he was doing. Maybe he is on drugs

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      He seemed to be having a go then changed to smiling. Would like to know

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    3. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Torres?

      'That's how you do it blondie'

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    4. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      They said it was Ba

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        One African to the other? It could be. Or this is for u man? Or they had a bet before the game? It will be later in the papers surely

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      2. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        'That's how you do it sheep noise'

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        1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          😆 harsh

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    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Looked like one of Chelsea's backroom staff. Whoever it was, they did their job if they managed to fire him up for the game!

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I think someone was firing him up before the game, like no chance you to score this game

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        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Man management at its best!

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  9. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone else starting to think about Willian?

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      NO. Reasons?

      Silva
      Yoyo
      Gerrard
      Ozil
      Eriksen
      Cabaye
      Lallana
      etc...

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Oscar too

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      2. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        oh right, the list of mids for casuals.

        forgot about them.

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        1. Koflok
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Casual thinking has been the way to go this season.

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        2. rrwholloway
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Yes that 'casual' at number 1 in the world...
          http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1340/event-history/22/

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          1. @FuzzyWarbles
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            Good luck catching the #1 in the world having the same players. I think that is known as cancelling yourself out.

            Im not saying Willian is the second coming of Christ, but it would be daft to write off everyone else. Players emerge. Simple as that.

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    2. I-Taught-Danny-Welbeck-How-…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Sexually?

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    3. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Not at all, to be honest.

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  10. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Will Hazard get that assist? He was the last to touch it before Eto scored

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  11. FPL Touches
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    3 bets on the game:

    Chelsea win
    Haz goal
    Both teams to score

    ...

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      you think Man U can score???????????

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Yep.

        Started sharpest, some decent chances created

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    2. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      You'll get the Chelsea win...

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  12. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Geez just realized I would've been 20 points better off if I had WC this week.
    Only 3 different players in the starting lineup

    Current: Kolarov Sterling Negredo = 3 pts
    vs
    WC: Eriksen Gabbi Aguero = 23 pts

    Not a lot of 'revelation' in terms of players as well. The only difference player I would have is Cabaye Sagna instead of Silva Hudson

    And probably extra 0.4m value from risers this week vs Aguero's 0.2m rise last week. But that's hardly matter.

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Agbon 😯

      Fair enough for considering him 🙂

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      1. Koflok
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I mean Gabbidon 😛

        Same point though. Hahaha

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        1. FPL Touches
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Haha he would have been the ultimate flair pick! 😛

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      2. Ludo
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Think he meant Gabbidon!

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      3. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I've considered him myself =P

        If he was a little cheaper

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  13. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Well played Januzaj

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  14. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Welbeck AGS seems like easy money

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    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      This

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    2. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Agreed, hence my own bet above

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  15. Wirtzle Gummidge
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I have Januzaj as my 5th mid. He he stays like this he is a legitimate 4th mid.

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    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I should a got him instead of Ki on my wildcard

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  16. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    RVP upfront would have been an easy goal.

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  17. Barrier Freeman
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    That's where Rooney/RVP would have come in handy.

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  18. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone to explain to me what is Luiz playing? If he continues he will get red card and cost us

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    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      It's David Luiz...he's always been like this

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Timing for my comment. Him and Jones. I am scared. Take him of please Jose.

        Luiz out Matic in !!!

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  19. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    With Rooney and RVP in the team Utd won 22 from 28 games. Maybe it isn't Moyes after all

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      But, maybe it is 😆

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    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      The squad is not good enough to go along with this. Both Roo and RVP stayed healthy fit last season with no long injuries.

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    3. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      They certainly carried the team last season

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    4. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      22 from 28 is pretty bad for so called "champion"

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  20. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    AY yellow. U cant !!!

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Kant

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      1. Lazarus
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Immanual Kant?

        Great philosopher.

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        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          I very much prefer Nietzsche, but to each his own.

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  21. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Young YC

    Splash.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      He can't make a splash now 😉

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  22. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Is 4Vets not around anymore?

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      No, he didnt like the new moderation system

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Lol why? Wet blanket much.

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      2. Tim Canterbury
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I don't like knowing who the mods are to be honest. You can't talk to them like sheat 😛

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      3. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Who does? It "cleans up" (to use TMs words) inoffensive banter yet lets the trolls run as free as ever.

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        1. Declan
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Agreed

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        2. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Locking this thread now guys.

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          1. Declan
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            😆

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        3. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Agree with this.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Nope, he said he'll come back at some point.

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      They are dropping like flies. First Forca, than Smarty Pants, than 4 vets. The list is growing. It could be only Jonhty and some gravless duds in few years time 🙁 :S

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      1. Declan
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        It was 4Vets first fwiw

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          No it was RBJ and that lot. And others will replace them.

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            There was a group that left shortly after FFS linked up with FPL. There is another group that has left/posts less since homecrowd.

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      2. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        There are other good posters that post less frequently now as well or barely post.

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        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          I don't really blame them. Not the same as it was. You don't get the advice and help etc like before and there is always bickering and stupid arguing. Along with the sarcasm in the replies which is generally on every page.

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  23. Bob.
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Kagawa should be playing through the middle with Janu out the left. Hopefully this happens in the second half

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      couldn't agree more, he started to show some form against the Swans

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      1. Bob.
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah second half versus Swans with Fletcher and Carrick behind Kagawa was really effective.

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  24. 4-4-who?
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    65 mins to the inevitable Chelsea CS...

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    1. 4-4-who?
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Maths fail! 55 mins

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      inevitable??

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  25. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Eto on 3 BP at the moment and all other on 2 hahahahahahah

    2 Points (1 BPS): Carrick Cahill Da Silva Valencia Young Cech Terry Vidic Jones Evra Welbeck Ivanovic De Gea Hazard Azpilicueta Oscar Evans Borges Da Silva

    Looooooooooolllllllllll

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      that has to happen at least once. will be hilarious.

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    2. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yep

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    3. 4-4-who?
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Would you believe that every player starts the game on equal BPs - I know, MIND BLOWING

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  26. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Welbeck having to drop deep

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    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Food

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  27. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    United actually have a good squad...Moyes just doesn't play them all together...Kagawa and Adnan could do damage with Rooney and RVP

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    1. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      A good mid table squad yeah ?

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      1. Debauchy
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Moyes will battle on though as he always has done.

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    2. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Unless Kagawa plays on the middle he sucks. Unless you're gonna wing Rooney, there is no way those players could play together.

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      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Ehhh....bit harsh, Kagawa just needs minutes....he can't get a decent run in the side

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  28. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Welbeck Snipes is white.

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      *shite

      Quite a funny auto correct.

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  29. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Wellback is truly second rate. Fergie would have been playing Hernandez ahead of him

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    1. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Fergie would have 😉

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    2. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Dont look back. Fergie played Wellbeck in Champions league last year. MU guys grasping at straws.
      You cant blame Moyes for everything. In fact Fergie largely to blame for leaving him in this mess.

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  30. GlasgowFF
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Nailed on pen that

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