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The Big Numbers – Gameweek 30

17 March 2014 2018 comments
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We analyse the numbers from Saturday and Sunday’s matches as Fantasy managers assess their options ahead of the double Gameweek. United’s misfiring Dutchman, Hull’s pair of strikers, a couple of Goodison Belgians, Cardiff’s new Spanish centre-half and Tottenham’s toils up top are all on our radar in the first of this week’s members articles:

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  1. jam
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Mannone
    Bardsley/Coleman/Cahill (Azp, Ward)
    Hazard/Nolan/Gerrard/Silva (Bacuna)
    Suarez/Sturr/Luk

    Evening. Already taken a -4 this week. Worth another one for Cahill > Zaba?
    Ta all!

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    1. There's Always One!
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Don't think so mate. Never like hits for defender's

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    2. ILOVEBAPS
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      That hit is risky. Not sure tbh.
      Double Sound defence is brave considering their opposition.

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  2. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    @Wakey

    Run your eye over my team. ML battle is hitting up just as my form dips to the worst I've seen this season...

    Boruc*

    Baines Chester Olsson*

    Hazard Yaya Gerrard Nolan

    Suarez c Sturridge Lukaku

    bench: Azpi Januzaj Gabbidon

    0FT 2.0M

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Boruc to Mannone?

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      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Seems a popular choice. May just do that thanks CS.

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    2. DoobNoob
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Olsson to Zabaleta?

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      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Dunno not really feeling Zabaleta. Or City defensively.

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I was going to recommend this one too. For the number of fixtures alone and their focus not solely on the league I think a City def. is worth having

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            *now solely

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          2. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Thanks. Yeah you could be right was thinking I'd go big up top on City for their run in. But maybe a defender would be wise.

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            1. UnderstandablyDistraught
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Great pts potential for 6.0

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  3. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Trying to assemble a WC team. Quick poll

    Kolarov and Yaya or Zab and Silva?

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    1. DoobNoob
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Zab and Silva

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    2. ILOVEBAPS
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Get Yaya and find another way. Don't trust Kolo

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Have never owned Kolo but thought that at 5.0 he might be worth a gamble. Probably blinded by the dgw though

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    3. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Go for gold with Kolarov.

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        He could be a big chunk of lead too though. I fancy a bit of a gamble though

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    4. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Zab and Silva only because Kolarov might not get 2 games but I prefer Yaya and Zab

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        So do I but that extra 1.0 is tough to scramble. Am considering hold Kos. After the Man C game his run in is great for the last 6. Should I raise funds by selling him?

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        1. Spike ⚽️
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          No. That was my choice only. There is nothing wrong with Zab and Silva

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Ta

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            1. victory_is_mine
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Post your team and tell us how much we've got to spend....and we'll create a team well worthy of 121 points:-)

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  4. DoobNoob
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    So it seems I desperately need Suarez for the double gameweek...

    In that case, any worthwhile way of getting him in?

    Mannone
    Coleman / Evra / Collins
    Sterling / Silva / Mata / Hazard / Cazorla
    Rooney / Strurridge / Lukaku

    0 Free transfers left... 0.5 in the bank
    Cheers!

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      sell mata or caz

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    2. blauriecon
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Evra or Mata to Bardsley or AJ and Rooney to Suarez

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      1. DoobNoob
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Worth the -8?

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        1. ILOVEBAPS
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          yep.

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    3. ILOVEBAPS
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Mata/Cazorla > AJ or Nolan
      Rooney > Suarez

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      1. DoobNoob
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        You really think that's worth the -8?
        I can't see Suarez out scoring Rooney by that much? Or maybe that's just because I'm a United supporter

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        1. blauriecon
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          it's going to cost -8 to get in Suarez and you'll need to drop a high price player to do so.

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  5. Tozier
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    A) Snodgrass (SUN) {free}
    B) Rosicky (che, SWA) {-4}
    C) Huddlestone (WBA, whu) {-4}

    Cheers.

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A

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    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A..

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  6. Indio
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Team is currently a mess, and only one FT. Willing to make 3 changes for -8. Decided on J-Rod > Studge, but what should other 2 be?

    A Smalling > Flannagan, Lallana > Nolan
    B Smalling > Zabba, Lallana > Sissoko
    C Yoshi > Flannagan, Lallana > AJ?
    D Something else?

    Genuinely stumped here, so any help would be much appreciated!

    Current lineup:
    Adrian (Mannone)
    Azpi, Ward, Smalling (Turner, Yoshida)
    Yaya, Mata, Lallana, Haz (Snoddy)
    Suarez, Lukaka, J-Rod

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    1. Sheldon420
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A

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  7. gers23
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    1.0 in bank. ..What to do with this team?

    Mannone

    Ivan Azpi Coleman

    Hazard Mata Lallana Johnson

    Suarez Rooney Rodriguez

    Davis Gnabry Olsson Whittaker

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    1. ILOVEBAPS
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Mata > Yaya

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    2. Indio
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Lallana > Silva?

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    3. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      you have money for lallana > gerrard?

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Ivan out for the funds

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      2. gers23
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yes...feel torn between getting yaya gerrard or Sturridge

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  8. Wolverine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Unrecognised lyrical genius:

    When the rainy days are dying
    Gotta keep on, keep on trying
    All the bees and birds are flying (ahh ahh ahh)

    Five, keep on movin'

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  9. Absinthe 42
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Evening all.

    Looking at some transfers that involve ending up with Chester / Bruce.

    Are we pretty convinced that Chester is now 1st choice again, since he's got the nod the last two games?

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I think so

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      1. Absinthe 42
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        If only it wasn't the manager's son...

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Ha indeed. Though I really think he picks on merit and seems to prefer Chester. Don't quote me on that 😉

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  10. Konig Luther
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    posted in wrong post

    a) Bassong and Chambers out, Kolarov and Flanagan in... getting rid of chambers but play with Mata

    b) Mata and Bassong Out, Gerrard and Zabaleta in, but play with another SGW player ( Ivanovic) and stay with chambers

    b is better even changing mata right?

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    1. Scratch
      • 17 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B for sure

      Ideally you want to shift Chambers too and obviously this week will lessen the blow of -4. Maybe out for McCartney or Chester

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      b imo

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  11. Scratch
    • 17 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone know why Colback didn't play the weekend?

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Dunno but this shouldn't be an issue from an fpl perspective

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      1. Scratch
        • 17 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I own him.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          🙁

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  12. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Choose one...

    a) Rosicky (will give me Arsenal cover + he is cheap)

    b) Sterling (on form and price rise but rotation risk)

    c) Henderson (nailed but expensive of the three)

    d) Ox (rotation risk, injury doubt and pricey...Arsenal cover)

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B

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    2. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B

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    3. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      b

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    4. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      that's a lot of Sterling love

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  13. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    United fans these days.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=825916417423159&set=a.182810288400445.51635.182667071748100&type=1&theater

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  14. blauriecon
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    DGW
    Bench 1 of Hazard MATA STERLING
    Play 1 of Azpilicueta Vlaar Ward

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Without a link to your team I wouldn't have a clue what you are trying to achieve here

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      1. blauriecon
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Mannone (Boruc)
        Coleman Evra Vlaar (Azpilicueta Ward)
        Mata Nolan Sterling YaYaToure(VC) (Hazard)
        Lukaku Sturridge Suarez(C)

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    2. Absinthe 42
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      That hurts my head.

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    3. Sheldon420
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Hazard
      Azpi

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    4. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Hazard and Vlaar

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    5. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      mata benched maybe, i don't know
      ward

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  15. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Adrian
    Baines, Kos, Chester
    Haz, Yaya, Gerrard, Snoddy
    Suarez, Sturridge, Lukaka

    Subs: xx, Ivan, Noone, Ward

    0FT, 0.3 banked.

    Either Haz > Silva or Ivan > Coleman worth a hit?

    Or am I overthinking?

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      would lose 1.0 on Haz. Bought at 9.0

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Keep him. Only consider the other one

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      save the hit imo

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      1. LOCO ABREU
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        9 dgw players already

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    3. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      It's really hard to say mate. Probably yes either could be profitable short term but you'll need them chelski back I reckon

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    4. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Not hazard.

      What about snoddy to sissoko?

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    5. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Defence double ups are a risk at the best of times Chelsea fixtures look fairly plum too.

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  16. gers23
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Rodriguez,Lallana and Mata to Long,Gerrard and Yaya worth -8?

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    1. Indio
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe not - do you need J-Rod > Long to afford the others?

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      1. gers23
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yh unfortunately

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  17. DoobNoob
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Mata -> Yaya worth a -4? Already have Silva

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    1. DoobNoob
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Mata is my only United coverage

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    2. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

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      1. Oberetta
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Mata is 1 too many. make the move!

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    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      yes

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  18. Absinthe 42
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Looks as if I need to do the DGW moves tonight.

    Which do you prefer?

    A. Azpil & Lallana --> Zabaleta & AJohnson = -4, 1.1 ITB
    B. Azpil & Lallana & Snod --> Chester, Gerrard & Johnson = -8, 0 ITB

    Mannone | Adrian
    Coleman | Cahill | Evra | Azpil | Bardsley
    Yaya | Hazard | Lallana | Snod | Gnabry
    Suarez | Sturridge | Rooney

    Thanks a bunch.

    RMT suggests

    A - 6pts this week, 7pts for season.
    B - 10pts this week, 10pts for season.

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  19. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hands up if you are more familiar with JKs team and transfer plans on any given GW than your own.

    o/

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Haha you must be happy with how Pool are going?

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yesterday was amazing. Didn't expect such one sidedness. I'm starting to think Moyes is actually clueless.
        It's good though that most LFC fans (and Rodgers) are keeping the feet on the ground. One match at a time an all that jazz.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Yep we're well conditioned to not get ahead of ourselves these days 😉
          What a legend Rodgers is though...

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        2. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I have visions of Moyes getting sacked by the end of the dgw.

          Dumped for the ECL, beat by West Ham and City isn't really unrealistic.

          Liverpool could have won 5-0.

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        3. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Champions League qualification is a big enough achievement in itself. Not only will Suárez stay another season at least, but think of the players that'll be attracted to the club with European football.
          Not to mention the additional income that'll come in handy expanding the squad next season, you've just about managed with one competition this season, players like Gerrard won't be able to play 2 games a week so will need careful man management to get the best out of him.

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          1. RoysCallerAnne
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            You are a wise parm sapling, errr welbz thingy.

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            1. Parm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Can I just quickly add that I like Rodgers, no matter how much he resembles David Brent. Tactically supreme and his player management is superb.

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      o/
      😀

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        🙂

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    3. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Evening RCA. Lucky I did my transfers last night getting Gerrard and Chester. I would have been .1 short today 🙂

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Evenin Spike, nice.

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    4. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      o/

      Can't wait for his Saturday night summary. "I nearly bought(...) but got(....) instead, I blame(....)"

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I blame you

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    5. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      😡 😛
      HI

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Feck, I thought for once you may have been actually eating or sleeping.
        😳

        I know you're a good sport, wouldn't dare to it with Breadbin

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Eating? Sleeping? What are these things you speak of?

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        😆

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Hi mate 😛

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            😀

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  20. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Guys best option for this dgw ??

    AJ - 3 dgw on the horizon plus a world cup place to fight for

    or

    Nolan - caroll boost and plays two matches at home

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  21. tw
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    boruc, mannone,
    evra coleman cahill shaw ward
    haz lallana AJ sterling ince
    SAS lukaku

    1FT, 2.9 in the bank, and a WC in my back pocket

    is it worth WCing or should I save til later? if not, is anything worth a hit or should I just do lallana > yaya for free?

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  22. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Play Hazard (ars) or Chester (WBA, whu)

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  23. Spike ⚽️
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I love the sports writer's comments in The Times supplement 'The Game' on RVP. Rated 4/10 - comments - " If this is how RVP plays when he's happy, I dread to think what he would be like when he's unhappy "

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He should be added 'When not totally anonymous he does a good line in hitting off balance shots into the front post side net'.

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        His closing one word description of RVP was as you say ' Anonymous'

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  24. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Rooney, Mata and Lallana ------> Suarez (c), Yaya Toure and Sterling.

    -8

    Worth it?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Not for me it's not

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    2. tw
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      yes

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    3. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Any further opinions?

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I would try and keep Rooney and take the one hit

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        1. You've got red on you.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Rooney over Suarez?

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  25. Sizo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    On a WC, considering selling Hazard.

    A) Gerrard and Zabaleta
    B) Sterling and Baines
    C) Keep Hazard and play him with Flanagan (or other, max 4,8)

    Will loose 0,3 on Hazard if I want to buy him back after DGW.

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    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      well in that case A ive got hazard at 9.0 so i will lose a lot of value on him by selling

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'd say keep Haz but A looks very good

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    3. Sizo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks for answers.

      My team value is 107,7, not that high, but I guess 0,3 is not that much to loose on him. Will probably have to wait till after Palace match also (or -4).

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  26. victory_is_mine
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    1. So what are the scores everyone's thinking they'll score this g/wk.?
    2. With that score how many of your players have the dbl g/wk?
    3. Any hits to get those dbl players?

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      121
      11
      0

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      1. victory_is_mine
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Post team so that I can copy

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          That's what my current wc team would score. Hoping I'll have a team by friday that will score more. Ask me then 🙂

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    2. victory_is_mine
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry second part of the post
      1. 110+ points
      2. 11 players
      3. -4 points

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    3. DementedFlamingo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      1. Hoping to get more than 44pts 😉
      2. 9
      3. 0

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      1. victory_is_mine
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        If you chose the right captain and that player gets the same points both games....I think you'll get your wish:-)

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    4. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      98
      10
      -8

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  27. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Looks like my flirtation with Yaya is coming to a swift end. Thanks for the assist big fella

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    1. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I have just got him in for the first tie this season

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    2. Absinthe 42
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      How come?

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    3. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I just bought him this week too, surely you're not selling now? If you want both Silva and Gerrard (as I do) just pick one and grimace.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Got to be Gerrard over Silva shirley?

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        1. Absinthe 42
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Until 34 agreed.

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  28. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Right guys this is it for double after 4 points hit

    Manonne
    Coleman c Davies Collins
    Hazard mata yaya silva
    Sturridge lukaku suarez (c)

    Ward olson parker

    Thoughts please.

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  29. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Benching hazard. I don't expect anything vs the tight arsenal defense... Especially after a midweek game.

    Did you see him vs Villa...?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      The whole game. Should have scored at least 1 goal and got a couple of assists but Oscar and Torres were awful

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        This is the truth.

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          fo sho

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  30. Neto
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Quick question: Coleman or Baines?

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    1. Absinthe 42
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Coleman. 5 goals from open play vs 0.
      Baines is not delivering via set pieces to make up the extra cost.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I just got both

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