[sbu_large_image] Preamble
5 April 2014 1055 comments
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Motivation is a problem. It’s an x-factor that can warp results, inspire teams to rip up the form book and earn goals and points from unlikely scenarios. At the same time a lack of drive can see established sources of Fantasy points fail to live up to their billing and disappoint.

Then there is our own motivation as Fantasy managers. I can’t help but feel this morning that, if I was comparing my season to a Premier League side, I’d be Aston Villa: brief moments of promise have punctured a campaign riddled with a lack of consistency and a failure to string together results. Now, just like Paul Lambert, I look on the remaining Gameweeks and wonder what motivation I can gain.

There’s not a sniff of prize money. No real opportunity to make a dent in my mini-leagues. I’m effectively seeing out the season and trying not to allow my mind to wander to next season’s likely player pricing.

It’s makes me wonder if the Fantasy games are missing a trick. Coming from a videogame background, and as someone still part of that industry, it’s interesting to note the parallels between that pursuit and Fantasy sports. In video games, loyalty to a brand (shudder) or game is a key factor and yet, in Fantasy Football, the game organisers appear to put little stock in attempting to claim loyalty from their customers. Or at least it appears that way.

I’m talking about cross-season game elements – rewards that can be gained in one season that affect or are present in your next. As more and more Fantasy games enter the marketplace, gaining the loyalty of your player base seems a key objective and yet, aside from the fact that we have our preferred rulesets, Fantasy Football seems to rely on the fact that we are drawn to the games that our friends or colleagues play.

What if the majority of Fantasy managers still had something to play for in April? What if I could gain a trinket for finishing in the top 100,000 rather than settle for my current miserable rank? Obviously I have some drive to do better but, at this stage in the season, what can I really gain from trying? A sense of pride? Is that enough to hold my interest?

Wildcards, extra transfers, free transfers or extra funds – these are all rewards that could potentially unbalance the game and cause longer-term issues season on season. I can understand the reluctance to open those particular cans of worms but how about qualification for a new cup – tournaments created from pools of players who finish in particular rank brackets? If I finish in the top 100,000 I get to enter a cup with other Fantasy managers in that bracket next season, with a better prize on offer than the cup tournament created from teams finishing this season outside of that rank. It’s a Europa League of sorts – except, unlike that particular tournament, there’d be a genuine clamour to qualify.

Even in a campaign where I find myself sharing a late night dram with Paul Lambert and reflecting on what might have been, I’d still have something to aim for. In turn, the Fantasy games would keep players motivated to the end and go some way to ensuring that players return next season rather than look elsewhere. When the suits meet around a table in the summer, that’s got to be a key discussion, right? Unlike their other potentially wacky marketing ideas, I reckon we’d be up for this one.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    I loves your preamble and you knows it Mark but....

    Please don't go touting for my Wildcards, Extra transfers etc towards the season end it could turn things into even more templates.

    To keep the brand / loyalty going extra incentives should be added...

    * some spot prizes.
    * differential leagues
    * post Xmas prize leagues
    Etc

    Thinking outside the fpl box we need 😉

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      We need to cheer him up. I tried on previous page

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      1. Evs
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        He's got his mate back at Forest now so he'll be ok....

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          😉

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        2. _Greg
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          I think make a pact to have two teams and two mods and contributors leagues, As long as Craig Noone reports you, you'll be fine

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  2. Four Four Boyz
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    Jesus that was a tiring rant Mark

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  3. Qubit
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    Following on from Mark's thoughts on the matter I think the best solution would be something like 1st-4th quarter leagues etc. Much in the vein of TM's leagues. With this you can still aim to be competitive within the confines of that league.

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    1. Epic Fail
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      FPL are stingy with the prizes as it is. I can't imagine them wanting to give more away.

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      1. Qubit
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        Didnt say they had to give anything away. Indeed FPL are known for their lacklustre prizes! I agree, cant see them giving more prizes.

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        1. Epic Fail
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          Ahh I get you. More competitions, but not necessarily with prizes?

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  4. Jacketts Potatoes
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    Pick 2 of these 3 to start today please guys

    Ward (car)
    Lallana (mci)
    Lukaku (ars)

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    1. Gooner Kebab
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      Ward & Lukaku

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      1. kalmoffit
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        Lallana and Lukaku

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    2. NATSTER
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      Attackers over DF anytime.

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    3. SvenGoranErskine
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      Hmm.. tricky
      Probably bench lallana... just

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    4. Jacketts Potatoes
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      I think I'm going to start lallana and lukaku.

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  5. BruLee
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    Adrian
    Zaba Azpi Chester
    Yaya Silva Hazard Delph
    Suarez Sturridge Caroll

    Mannone Ward Ox Distin

    Have 2 free transfers. Should I keep? 0.1m in bank

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    1. Gooner Kebab
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      you can only carry 1 over mate.

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      1. BruLee
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        Yes I know but 0 transfer make sense to make. What do you think?

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        1. kalmoffit
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          Adrian>Harper?

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          1. BruLee
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            and do I play 2 Hull defensive? Chester + Harper?

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            1. Fabreghastly
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              You can do Adrian to Speroni. He's good for the next three and Mannone is good for the final three

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    2. Fabreghastly
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      I'm struggling to see a single transfer of use to you.
      Ox to Eriksen and bench Delph maybe

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    3. Manamongst
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      Ox over Delph...or Ox as first sub

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  6. Blue Lion
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    Start Lallana or Coleman?

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    1. Notorious
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      Lallana

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    2. pricycle
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      Tricky, I think Lallana is max two points today so probably Coleman

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    3. NATSTER
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      Coleman

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    4. Fabreghastly
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      Lallana

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  7. pricycle
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    Team this week...

    Mannone

    Coleman / Olsson / Zaba

    Bacuna / Mata / Yaya / Hazard

    Suarez (c) / Lukaku / Sturridge

    Bench: Howard / Lallana / Ward / Collins

    Can't decide whether to play Lallana over Bacuna and Howard over Mannone. Pretty sure all of the above will struggle to score anything.Thoughts appreciatedeam this week...MannoneColeman / Olsson / ZabaBacuna / Mata / Yaya / HazardSuarez (c) / Lukaku / SturridgeBench: Howard / Lallana / Ward / CollinsCan't decide whether to play Lallana over Bacuna and Howard over Mannone. Pretty sure all of the above will struggle to score anything.Thoughts appreciated

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    1. pricycle
      • 12 Years
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      Oops sorry about that, smart phone paste error

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  8. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
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    Nice one Mark.
    I run a ML for my good mates, but i've lost a few heads along the way as their respective teams didn't perform and now they became ghost teams. Some of what you said will help to keep them interested, but it'll be tough to implement.

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  9. Blue Lion
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    Ox to Mutch?

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    1. Manamongst
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      ummm yeah

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  10. # Young Gun SEAMUS #
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    Start Lallana or take Eriksen FREE TRANSFER

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
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      eriksen

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    2. itz only game
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      Se problem here
      .would love bumper input. Is this a good move long tremendous as it free up to money. Although o ly really needed money to get Rooney after 35 .

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      1. itz only game
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        Sorry auto complete messed up that reply

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  11. TorresMagic™
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    12 years, 4 days ago

    I feel bad for Mark. Going through the motions. 🙁

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    1. Evs
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      Like a retiring horse in the national 😉

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        I'm sure he will sort it out next season.

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        1. Evs
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          I'm sure he will.

          A little steroid injection here and there and he be chomping at the fantasy bit 🙂

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      Sounds familiar.

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    3. Epic Fail
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      I'm sure he'll get over it.

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  12. Mikeharbrw
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    12 years, 4 days ago

    Didnt they used to do monthly prizes? And split the mini leagues into monthly, best 3 months and overall???

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  13. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    havent seen a rise like mutch since barkley early season

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    1. NATSTER
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      Queue him to stop scoring points.

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  14. @ocprodigy
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    • 12 Years
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    Last call for Scout Pick Challenge entries!
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/7085305

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    1. The B
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      Can I change my Rooney pick to Anichebe?

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  15. Merlinho
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    12 years, 4 days ago

    Even achievement badges could work. Ultimately pointless I suppose but little trophies you could win for things like playing each season, finishing high, best improvement etc may be a nice touch.

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    1. Zinedine Kilbane
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      Best idea so far IMO

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  16. SvenGoranErskine
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    Great idea Mark

    I'm presently way out in front in my mini league and have been reduced to seeing how close to RonH I can finish... and he doesn't even know!

    'Europa' qualification would surely be a healthier pursuit.

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  17. RabMac
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    Best captain for today?

    Torn between Sturridge, Suarez, Yaya, Hazard & Gerrard. Leaning toward Yaya at the moment.

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  18. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    Last dilemma:

    Team Adrian or Team Mannone?

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    1. Notorious
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      Mannone

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        why?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Suarez

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          1. Notorious
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            this. Liverpool attack > Tottenham attack

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        2. Fabreghastly
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          Playing for one of the worst teams but still gets 4.9ppg

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  19. Jönny
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    12 years, 4 days ago

    One of the best ideas I've heard suggested for improving the game, I reckon.

    Also, more (smaller entry) cup competitions that you could qualify for based on your previous ranks. So you'd have less weeks to get through in order to win them, and if you had a bad season one year you'd be in the JPT equivalent next year!

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      Like PL sides entering FA Cup in third round. Like it

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  20. Hampe
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    What to do with Rooney?

    Noone will probably be the sub if I keep him this gw. Is it really worth taking a hit? I have SaS as well.

    I might stick with Rooney this week to scan whether I will bring in Dzeko or Kun next gw.

    If Kun has recovered then: Studge --> Lukaku and Rooney --> Kun
    If not; Rooney --> Dzeko.

    Sound reasonable?

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    1. SvenGoranErskine
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      Sound

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  21. TorresMagic™
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    Got quite a few home players this week.
    Red arrows incoming. 🙁

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  22. Wilshere Knowledge
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    Has anyone seen last nights Hannibal? Wow!

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    1. Evs
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      Sir Anthony isn't in it, can't be the same...

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      1. Wilshere Knowledge
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        Mads Mikkelson is amazing. He is so good, I would run away if I saw him in the street. 😀 Not many seem to watch it because it isn't advertised, but it's the best show if ever seen!

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        1. pompeyfan
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          I watched the first season. It's ok but style over substance for me. Best thing right now is True Detective

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
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            True detective was very, very good, but Hannibal is better IMO. Even so, both Hannibal and True Detective get 9 or higher every episode, but so few people watch Hannibal for some reason. Maybe it's too subtle?

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            1. pompeyfan
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              Nah not too subtle, i feel it often uses a sledgehammer to hit some points home! Just not marketed that widely & it's treading a very travelled path

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              1. Wilshere Knowledge
                • 12 Years
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                I don't think I could disagree any more with this! 😀 each to their own I suppose.

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                1. Wilshere Knowledge
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                  True Detective is detectives looking for bad people, and their struggles, in Hannibal, the cat and mouse is the subplot, understanding and empathising with the killers is the point.

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  23. faux_C
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    Really wavering this week.

    Need to pick 3 from Cahill, Vlaar, Coleman, Kompany

    and either Long or Henderson.

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    1. Notorious
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 days ago

      Komps, Cahill, Vlaar
      Long

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  24. NATSTER
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    Ok. I play it safe. Starting Coleman and bench Ward.

    Marshall
    Ivan - Zab - Coleman
    Gerrard - Y.Toure - Eriksen - Hazard
    Suarez - Lukaku - Sturridge
    Bench: Mannone, Lallana, Ward, Fonte

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    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
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      I'd play Ward

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  25. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
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    Marshall
    Cahill, Ivan, Zaba
    Mutch, Silva, Haz, Yaya
    Studge, Suarez, Lukaku

    Bench: Ki, Chambers, Collins

    All set? Save FT?

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  26. Blue Lion
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    Mark, this is for you. Shift those gears,step on the gas!

    sjposters.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/never-give-up.jpg

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  27. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 days ago

    I don't play for winning prizes. I play for the taking part, and most of all to keep up some sort of consistency with my overall rank each year, hopefully improving each time.

    Who cares about prizes! It is so much fun watching a team you don't support if you have their players.

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    1. Zinedine Kilbane
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      • 13 Years
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      Maybe it's my vicious gambling problem speaking bt it's even more fun watching teams you don't supports players if theirs monetary gain at the end. Degenerate life

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  28. Pinky and Brain
    • 12 Years
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    How many players do you have today?

    Only 4 here.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      3

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        4*

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    2. Notorious
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      6

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    3. Bad Pen
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      7

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    4. Evs
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      6 (I think)

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    5. mipola
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      5

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    6. FPL Daniel
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      4 too

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  29. Jam0sh
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    • 13 Years
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    Morning fellas! Am I good to go? Bench right etc.?

    Marshall
    Distin, Azpilicueta, MOlsson
    Yaya, Lallana, Hazard, Gerrard
    Suarez (C), Lukaku, Sturridge

    Subs: Mannone, Puncheon, Ward, Demel
    1ft, 0.3 ITB

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  30. NeedleVor
    • 16 Years
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    Mark has officially lost his head. Easier transfers and more wildcards are exactly what we don't need. The game needs to start rewarding the proper FPL player and not the kids/idiots/casuals that have found it all too easy to keep the pace without having any real knowledge of what is going on.

    The game is fine except for the fact that 4 points is not enough of a punishment for extra transfers. It should be 8-10 points per transfer in addition to the 1 freebie.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      6 would be a good compromise.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
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      That would also lend a hand to bad luck though. Iv had 5 injuries in one week through no fault of my own, and a 10 point hit would be brutal.

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    3. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 days ago

      FPL wise he's a drowning man. Throw him a life jacket not a concrete block. 😉

      He's obviously learnt from his errors. That with abit more luck he'll be fine.

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    4. Lizard Lips
      • 13 Years
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      I think a 5 point hit for a transfer and a cap at 25 transfers. That would add more variety.

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    5. MarkyMarkovic
      • 12 Years
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      4 points each time is painful enough that is for certain.
      It'd certainly make drunken fpl'ing much more hazardous if they cost more

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