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29 June 2014 3432 comments
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Sunday evening brings us another couple of World Cup fixtures to focus on after the knockout stages got underway last night. Louis Van Gaal’s free-scoring Holland are bidding to join Brazil and Colombia for a place in the last eight but face a tough task in the 5pm kick-off – opponents Mexico conceded just once in the group stages and have already stopped Neymar and co from finding the net:

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Blind; Verhaegh, De Jong, Wijnaldum Kuyt; Sneijder; Van Persie, Robben,

Mexico: Ochoa; Aguilar, Rodriguez, Marquez, Moreno, Layun; Herrera, Salcido, Guardado; Dos Santos, Peralta,

The Dutch welcome back Robin Van Persie from suspension after their skipper served a one-match ban against Chile in the previous match. Van Persie is one of only two changes to the XI that beat the South Americans, with Paul Verhaegh replacing Daryl Janmaat on the right of the midfield four – Dirk Kuyt keeps his place on the opposite flank, with Daley Blind utilised in the back-three once again by Van Gaal. The United striker will be hoping to continue the form that has seen him score in both his appearances thus far, whilst Arjen Robben owners will also have high expectations after the Bayern man served up three goals and an assist over the group stages.

Mexico make just one enforced alteration from the side that won 3-1 against Croatia in the final match of Group A, with former Fulham man Carlos Salcido handed his first start of the tournament. Up front, Giovanni dos Santos will be desperate to open his account for the campaign, whilst his fellow forward Oribe Peralta – along with skipper Rafael Marquez – has already chipped in with a goal and assist over the opening three fixtures.

Later this evening, Costa Rica and Greece go head-to-head after both sides exceeded our expectations to reach the last 16. Jorge Luiz Pinto’s side cannot be underestimated after topping the so-called “Group of Death”, with wins over Uruguay and Italy underpinned by a defensive resilience that has served up two clean sheets in three matches. Pinto is understandably expected to keep faith in a 5-4-1 formation, with Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campbell carrying the main threat further up the pitch.

Despite a last-gasp win over Ivory Coast, Greece have failed to impress. That 2-1 triumph was the only time Fernando Santos’ side found the net in the group stages and, even then, they had to rely upon defensive mistakes from the Africans to make a breakthrough. With a converted spot-kick and assist to his name, Giorgos Samaras has been the main up top for the Greeks – once again, we can expect Santos’ side to keep it tight at the back and look for a goal on the counter.

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  1. SneakyPete
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    De Vrij 11 points WOW !

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
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      Wow , 25 points from 2 defenders now

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      1. SneakyPete
        • 14 Years
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        same here

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  2. GunsnRoses
    • 14 Years
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    46 from 3, Including captain.
    Pretty average here I think.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Aye.

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    2. Declan
      • 15 Years
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      23 from 2

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    3. Louis
      • 13 Years
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      James (c), Cuadrado and Cillessen.
      Very happy about that!

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly this for me but sadly I had a certain deadwood named Neymar 🙁

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    4. The Missing Link
      • 12 Years
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      28 from 1, everyone else is subbed 😀

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        72 from 7 Neymar Herrera and Arranguiz likely to make way

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        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
          • 14 Years
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          57 from 4 without them

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  3. Keno
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    Stick with Cilessen on 9 points or twist to Karnezis? I am guessing stick, 9 is pretty solid I would say for a GK.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Twist.

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      1. Keno
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Twist? Really? You think he will get a lot of saves or what?

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
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          Cillesen got 9 without doing much. It's not a massive score. And you don't get high rankings by being happy with average scores.

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
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      Yeah I'm sticking

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  4. CunkOnFPL
    • 13 Years
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    Cillesen on 9 pts, stick or twist to Karnesis? (then Mbolhi)

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      See above.

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    2. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
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      May as well. M'bolhi will get a ton of saves.

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      1. Shels
        • 11 Years
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        more like lots of points deducted for -6 goals

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  5. Siva Mohan
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    armband on Konstantinos MANOLAS or Yeltsin TEJEDA? first to 5 wins..

    TEJEDA on 2 & MANOLAS on 1

    Thanks!

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    1. Fresco
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Manolas by a big margin. 2:5.

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    2. CunkOnFPL
      • 13 Years
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      Manolas

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    3. GOONER
      • 14 Years
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      Manolas

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    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Manolas.

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  6. GOONER
    • 14 Years
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    Any one knows how many points did RAFA MARQUEZ get?

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    1. Siva Mohan
      • 13 Years
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      4

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    2. The Missing Link
      • 12 Years
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      4

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    3. Fresco
      • 15 Years
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      3 or 4

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      1. chanvoodoo
        • 11 Years
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        3

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  7. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
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    So lucky for Holland!

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
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      the 1st goal was good though

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    2. Demí
      • 15 Years
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      Robben HRP 😎

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Same here!!! And Holland to win!!

        Who you going for HRP this next match?

        Gonzalez + Diaz look good bets @10.00

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Gone for Gonzalez and Sokratis for Greece

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          1. The Sarjeant
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            You doing on Ladbrokes?

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            1. The Sarjeant
              • 12 Years
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              *it

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    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      They earned it.

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    4. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
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      They have 1 more win left then the luck will be no more

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  8. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Pen1s over Brain

    Could apply to many but is a anagram of who? 🙂

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Brian Overpenis?

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
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        Not quite, I got modded for using an i instead of a 1 😆

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        1. puddingbrood
          • 11 Years
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          Robin van Pen1s

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          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
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            Nearly there

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  9. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Up to 200 OR now in McD , aha

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  10. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    9 points from Cilessen. Not baddd.

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    1. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Enough - stashed...

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    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      That slash is still there 😡

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  11. The 12th Man
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    who to captain out of these?

    Manolas, Cholevas, Duarte, Tejeda, Maniatis.

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'd say Duarte but I always get these wrong.

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    2. CunkOnFPL
      • 13 Years
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      1. Duarte, 2.Manolas

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      1. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
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        Duarte it is then. thanks. Also Cillessen > Karnezis to triple up on Greeks or stick?

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    3. chanvoodoo
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Manolas he always have good performance...

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  12. The EJJ
    • 14 Years
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    Captain Manolas or Duarte? Don't really know too much about either play or how they've been performing so far

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  13. puddingbrood
    • 11 Years
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    All Dutch points:

    De vrij 11
    Huntelaar 9
    Cillesen 9
    Sneijder 8
    martins Indi 6
    Vlaar 6
    Blind 6
    Robben 6
    Wijnaldum 5
    Kuyt 5
    verhaegh 4
    RVP 4
    Depay 2
    De Jong 1

    All Mexican points:

    Dos santos 9
    Rodriguez 8
    Reyes 4
    Ochoa 4
    Herrera 4
    Peralta 4
    Moreno 4
    Marquez 3
    Layun 3
    Salcido 3
    Aguilar 2
    Guardado 2
    Aquino 2
    Hernandez 1

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      20 from 2

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    2. Shels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      were you get that list? or you just wrote there overall b4 the match?

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      1. puddingbrood
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah that's what I did

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Jeez, that's a load of crap right there.

      But, very well done to you. 🙂

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  14. Premier Virgin
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Help...
    CILLESSEN (9) or Keylor NAVAS??

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    1. Shels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      stick

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    2. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Would stick - doubt Greece gonna have many shots?

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      1. Premier Virgin
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        k thanks guys 🙁

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  15. Yome
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Robben is just the perfect diver and the refs are idiots and falling into the trap. It is a disgrace, both him and Suarez should be banned from playing football!
    There is a Robben dive compilation for all the doubters:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAVW9Hussao

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He's always been the master of winning pens since his Chelsea days.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Banned from playing football 😀

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        They are repeating the same disgraceful stuff on and on and on! I am seriously fed up by the behavior of these football players!

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    3. puddingbrood
      • 11 Years
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      Are you kidding? Should've been 3 penalties for him.

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
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        You must be Dutch then! He dived in the first half, I am sure he dived in the group stage and of course he dived against Arsenal... Just look at the video then, I hate this son a b*!

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    4. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      It was a foul. He should've had a pen in the 1st half & he didnt go down in the 2nd before when Marquez left a leg in and he had the shot on his right

      Anyway - Hup Holland!

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        He dived in the first half, what are you talking about? I can't believe some people here are defending him, horrible to watch him diving like that

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          You are an imbecile! 😕

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          1. Yome
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Haha you think you are smart!
            Look at that for a proof, this is embarrassing!
            https://vine.co/v/MF62bqzgIjF

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            1. Jack Frost
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              that's a great vine, but it's not the one he got a pen for,. is it?

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              1. Yome
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Yes indeed that action happened earlier

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            2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              Proof, eh?

              What an epic fail.

              And yes, I am smart. 🙂

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        2. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          He could've had 2 pens just for that action in the box in the first half. Robben gets a lotbof stick in England. We're pretty bemused about that here. Oh well who cares what some English say

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        3. Debauchy
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Hey Yome - relax . This Dutch side aint going anywhere fact !

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          1. Yome
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Yeh I hope Costa Rica sends them home!

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    5. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Agree. Wont get those calls against the " bigger sides " though . so all in vain (hope)'

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  16. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Robben on Dutch TV:

    Robben admits to diving once in 1st half. Insists penalty was just, though. Also says he should have had another penalty in 1st half.

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  17. Saniul
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    What's the whole deal with the Robben dive today?

    1. He was fouled twice in succession in the first half, no pen.
    2. He skipped over Marquez once in the second half, when Marquez stuck his leg out. Had he stood his ground, would have been a dead penalty.
    3. Definite contact by Marquez, never a dive.

    I hate when people stereotype players just for the sake of it. 😐

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      move on

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      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        yeah he dives sometimes, but so does most of the forwards and wingers who have trickery these days. 😉

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    2. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      The end of the second half was 101% a penalty!

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    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      He is a diver though.

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        yes it is but this pen is no worse than the one Giroud won vs Swiss , which Benzema missed

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I'm just saying he's a diver, which he is.

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      2. Yome
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Wenger said he is a diver, he dived big time against Arsenal. He is famous for diving and he still gets the support from the refs and the fans!

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    4. RuudVanNistelrooney
      • 12 Years
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      Totally Agreed

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    5. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
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      the problem lies with the refs , unless u make a meal of it They are not going to give a pen

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    6. Bubz
      • 12 Years
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      Agreed. it was a clumsy leg left in by Marquez. There is no striker on this earth that wouldn't have gone down in that situation.

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      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly, and yet he skipped, because he felt he could score.
        Maybe we should talk about that sometimes, as well.

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    7. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
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      It was a penalty. It was also a dive.

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
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        as I said the issue is the refs , unless U tumble over they are not giving fouls

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        1. puddingbrood
          • 11 Years
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          Besides this, defenders have an whole arsenal of dirty tricks (pullinh shirt, on the edge fouls etc). Forwards only have diving.

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        2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 13 Years
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          I don't think he needed to tumble over though, Djerbil. I think there was plenty of contact to bring him down naturally. I don't get the stretching of arms and legs and pained expression on his face. He's far from the only one in fairness.

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      2. Saniul
        • 13 Years
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        As long as it is a pen, doesn't matter what theatricals he does.

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 13 Years
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          Could not disagree any more if I tried.

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      3. Somalion
        • 16 Years
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        Very true.

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    8. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He dived. But its true he should have had a pen in the first half.

      Mexico took off both their strikers after 65 mins though, so once Netherlands equalised they really had no outlet to go on and try to win the game again. It was either going to pens or Netherlands would win.

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    9. Yome
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      What is the sense of your post? Look at your grav!

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    10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Right with you here, Saniul. I am gobsmacked.

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  18. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Wonder if it was Suarez that bit off a bit of that England fan's ear?

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    1. Vote Joke
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      ha.

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  19. MITHRRANDIRR
    • 12 Years
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    http://t.co/EbQq0tHgJW Robben

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      lol,

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  20. GOONER
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    How many points did Ouchua score?

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    1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      4 all scores are above

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  21. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    De virj on a cool 12

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  22. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
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    Lol Robben was robbed of having over 5 penalties today. Period.

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
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      Luckily you've got those pads with wings.

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  23. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    The diving dutchman.

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    1. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Great player, but such an obnoxious fellow

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        true

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  24. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Costa Rica and Greece really is a 50:50 game. Seems opinion on here really is split

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  25. Saniul
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    De Vrij on 12. It is getting ridiculous now, even I'm embarassed. 😆

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      getting back all the points that was robbed off Zapata

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      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I wonder if I even need to sub in any player for this round, except selling Neymar. 😆

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    2. emperikal
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Ridiculous. They should just called it McDonald's CB Fantasy

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      1. Walsh
        • 12 Years
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        🙂

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    3. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Great if you own him though 🙂 he was a last minute change for me took out Jaanmat dodged a bullet there.

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      1. Vote Joke
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Exact move I made. Have to thank Beavis for that.

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    4. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
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      How is Cilessen on 9 haha?

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      1. Saniul
        • 13 Years
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        Fair play to him, he atleast caught the 5 times. 😉

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  26. GOONER
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Captain Duarte or Karnezis?

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    1. Tomlette Greggs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      if you really have to choose between the two, Duarte

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    2. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Duarte.

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  27. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
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    2 questions.

    1) CILLESSEN (9) or Karnezis?
    2) Change captain from J.Rod to CRC/Greece defender or stick?

    Thanks.

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    1. Tomlette Greggs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Cillessen
      Stick

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      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers.

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    2. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
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      Stick on both.

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      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
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        Cheers.

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    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Twist for both.

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      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
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        Who would you pick as captain?

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
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          Probably a Greek defender.

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    4. emperikal
      • 15 Years
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      9 points is a pretty good keeper score if the group stages has been any indication. Seems like quite the risk for another 2-3 points at best so stick on both counts IMO

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      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
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        Cheers.

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  28. asquishypotato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Costa Rica to win and under 2.5 goals? What do we all think? Seems fair to me!

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    1. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      good call

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  29. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z473hfPnh3E

    Watch this clip and tell me how this is any worse than Robben's , obviously he missed it afterwards

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    1. emperikal
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      If anything the contact on Robben's was much more obvious

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    2. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      That was a lot worse

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  30. Tomlette Greggs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Louis van Gaal thinks Nigel de Jong is out for the rest of the tournament, but says you never know.

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