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13 July 2014 2625 comments
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A month of thrilling football culminates this evening as Germany and Argentina take to the pitch in the 2014 World Cup Final. Many Fantasy mini-leagues are on the line tonight as Joachim Low’s free-scoring side square up to one of the most resilient backlines in the tournament so far:

Germany: Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger; Muller, Kroos, Ozil; Klose

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Garay, Demichelis, Rojo; Biglia, Mascherano; Perez, Messi, Lavezzi; Higuain

Low makes one late change to the XI that started the 7-1 rout of Brazil, with Christoph Kramer replacing Sami Khedira in central midfield. Mats Hummels has recovered from the knee problem that forced him off at the break last time around, then, while Miroslav Klose leads the line for the third successive match. Thomas Muller carries the hopes of many Fantasy managers into this one after serving up five goals and a trio of assists so far, whilst Toni Kroos’ double against the Brazilians has earned him plenty of new owners across the Fantasy games. Elsewhere in attack, Klose is gunning for his third of the campaign after breaking the World Cup Finals scoring record last week, though Low also has the option of Andre Schurrle off the bench, with the Chelsea man notching three times already.

Alejandro Sabella’s side is also unaltered from the semi-finals. Martin Demichelis gets the nod ahead of Federico Fernandez in the heart of defence once again, while Enzo Perez and Ezequiel Lavezzi are handed another start due to injury concerns over Angel di Maria and Sergio Aguero – the latter is likely to appear off the bench again, though. The South Americans have delivered four clean sheets in their last five matches and Sabella’s defence has been subject to heavy Fantasy investment as the returns dry up for Lionel Messi. It’s now three games without a goal for the Barcelona man now, who has looked lethargic for his country over the knockout matches – when it matters most of all, can he deliver?

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  1. CellinoArmy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    FFS, I was doing so well yesterday with 90 from 6 players, and now today i'm only on 112, i guess i'll win nothing this time. 🙁 What round scores are you guys on?

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    1. Marouane Fellatio
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      72, 9 players still going.

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
        • 15 Years
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        79 & 8 including captain

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    2. Zombie
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      147 only. Need 67 more to win the overall thing. Even then they won't give me the car 🙁

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      1. CellinoArmy
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        147, wow, good selections man.

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    3. Woy of the Wovers
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      57.

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    4. Twitter-Twello
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      89.

      7 on field.

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      1. CellinoArmy
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        nice

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    5. I.A.P
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      81 with 9 playing.

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      1. CellinoArmy
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        nice, i took a defensive gamble on yesterdays thinking there would be goals for both teams today but that hasn't completely worked out

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  2. Marouane Fellatio
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    Another RB for Hummels 🙂

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  3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    oh kroos

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  4. Zombie
    • 12 Years
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    Ozil has been immense. He gets so much undeserved stick around here

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    1. PKB
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      this, imagine if Ozil had miss-headed that higuain chance instead of Kroos

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      He's having a great game, but he's been awful the rest of the tournament.

      You should have said this yesterday!

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      1. Zombie
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        I did and so did the stats. he has created highest goal scoring opportunities in this tourny

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        1. PKB
          • 13 Years
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          Also has the most no. of attacking passes in the tourney

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
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            Attempted passes?

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    3. The Bandit
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      It usually IS deserved tbf

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  5. Piggs Boson
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    Ramsey would have scored that.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
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      lukaku assist

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    2. copps
      • 14 Years
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      Wales would have won the world cup

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
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        ...if they'd won all their games.

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  6. Woy of the Wovers
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    Can anyone explain why Lawrensen?

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  7. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
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    germans cant stay on their feet

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  8. Bøwstring The Carp
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Really hope Argentina can win this 😕

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
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      i want someone to win it in normal or et

      no penos pleaase

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      1. copps
        • 14 Years
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        penalties in a WC final is as harsh as it gets. no player could ever live down missing a key spot kick like that

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
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      I hope they don't.

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  9. EmreCan Hustle
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    Klose is exhausted.

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      He's 56

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    2. Zombie
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      He has already outlasted in this match

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  10. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    do cleanies lock in on macds once they go off and even if the opposition score later?

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    1. Bubz
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      How do you not know this by now 😯 . Nah they don't lock

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
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        cos i have a life............ no actually i dont........im just thick

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    2. Jimbo123
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      Print think so

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      1. Jimbo123
        • 15 Years
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        *dont

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    3. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
      • 13 Years
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      No

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    4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
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      ta

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    5. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
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      I wish

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  11. seanie3
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Is Neur really only on 3 pts??

    how many points does romero have

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    1. Konig Luther
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      6

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
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      6

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  12. Jimbo123
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Goetze on for Klose

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  13. Twitter-Twello
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Klose finally off.

    Respect.

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    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Kudos. Amazing record

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      1. copps
        • 14 Years
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        there's always 2018

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        1. MJ6987
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          May be a World Cup too far!

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
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      Yeah, World Cup legend.

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  14. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    How's it looking at the top of the Maccy's league now?

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    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
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      Some American is winning

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Not you then? What do you need to happen?

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        1. Bubz
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          Lahm to score about 5 goals 😀

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          1. MJ6987
            • 15 Years
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            Good luck! 🙂

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      2. VougieDipond
        • 13 Years
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        ouch

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      3. The Shadow
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        #1 is someone who posts here.

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        1. Bubz
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          Ah nice

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          1. The Shadow
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            #6 as well.

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  15. copps
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    i do think the german squad deserve the WC over agentina for the number of good players they have, they have put even the bundesliga back on the map. argentina only really have messi and mash who would be classified as players deserved of a WC

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't work like that. Ask Maradona '86.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't work like that
      We(Italy) had a good squad in 2006, but I'm sure most wanted Zidane to win it

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    3. Twitter-Twello
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      This is the worst logic I have heard so far.

      Argentina is a well organized team and you can clearly observe that from this tournament.

      World Cup is not for a bunch of individuals grouped in a team, but for a group of individuals who can play together when the time comes, and win it.

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  16. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    miroslav Klose, the greatest Polish player of all time. 🙂

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      off to the ghetto with you for that sort of talk 😉

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        🙂

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Better than Podborski even

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        That's a terrible attempt at Podolski!

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        *Podolski 🙄

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      3. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Poborski Euro '96

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      4. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Poborsky has no connection with Poland

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    3. Woy of the Wovers
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      Lato, Boniek both better.

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      1. LewanGOALski
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        Lewandowski beating 'em all 😎

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  17. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Silly little ponytails don't do well in WC Final penalty shhot outs 😉

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    1. the axolotl
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      This 🙂

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
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      Neither team has ever lost one.

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    3. copps
      • 14 Years
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      although if it was zlatan id feel it would be alright

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  18. Twitter-Twello
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Really getting tired of all Romero easy saves. :@

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  19. copps
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    2 world cup finals in a row finishing 0-0. not exactly the best way to win over new fans to the sport

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    1. Bubz
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Feck the new fans.

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      1. Blue Lion
        • 12 Years
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        Aye!

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      2. copps
        • 14 Years
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        its good for the sport to keep growing

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        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
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          This is football. if they don't like it, they don't like it.

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          1. copps
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            whats your first memory of football that got you into the sport? a 0-0 draw?

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            1. Bubz
              • 12 Years
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              I don't remember ever making a snap judgement as to whether I was going to be a football fan based on one game.

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      this.... altho this has been quite a good nil nil

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      The one before was 1-1 pens too

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  20. FPL Daniel
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    What happened to Ozil? He was decent player. Wenger ruined him 🙁

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Troll.

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  21. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Zanetti!

    Good man George 😆

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  22. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
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    Shit game. I told ya it is gonna have overtime, everyone were against me

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      This was a good game...Just happens to be nil-nil.

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Did you go to twat school or are you a natural?

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  23. Marouane Fellatio
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    3 recovered balls in one minute for Hummels 🙂

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  24. Blue Lion
    • 12 Years
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    Extra time..
    Come on Captain Hummels..get a goal.

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  25. Lawrø
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    Does the sub before the game count as one of Germany's three substitutions?

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    1. Bubz
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      😆 seriously?

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      1. Lawrø
        • 13 Years
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        I genuinely don't know the answer to my question , otherwise I wouldn't of asked it.

        I'd also like to take this moment to apologise for not having an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules!

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        1. Bubz
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          Lol

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    2. Twitter-Twello
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      no

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  26. The Missing Link
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    This nigeria vs netherlands final is still up for grabs. Nervous watching this 😀

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    1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      Nigeria vs Netherlands
      North Korea vs Portugal
      Germany vs Argentina

      I've watched the whole tournament and am so confused. Who da fuq is in the final?!

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  27. Pratik
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    I don't want penalties! 🙁

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think that Arg will be happy to get to pens now.

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  28. Bøwstring The Carp
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Noob question:

    Couldn't take Khedira out as I couldn't play 5-2-3 in McDonald's. If Khedira stays off will Oscar auto sub back in or not?

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    1. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
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      Nope.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      See that padlock? 😉

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    3. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
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      no auto subs. enjoy the 0 points. I feel your pain I have the same

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  29. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
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    Germany seem to be the fitter team, physically. They hold the advantage imo.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      An extra days rest and no extra time

      2-0 Germany in ET imo

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  30. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    How's everyone doing then ?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Fine thanks. You?

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
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      The players are getting tired.

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    3. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      84 with 9 playing including 4 in defense.

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    4. shazzaaam
      • 11 Years
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      99 points with 7 player. 3 in defense

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