[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream†and “casual†player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore†manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. ireland123
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    RMWCT. frustrating me at this point! haha

    Bego/McCarthy
    Lovren/CLyne/Collocini/PVA/3.9
    Fab/Sterling/Siggy/DiMaria/Boyd
    Rooney/Naismith/Costa

    3.3m ITB, can swap out anyone in the coming weeks if needs be.
    Thoughts? Where to change?

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Rooney to Balo
      Lovren to Shawcross
      Di Maria to Tadic
      Get Ivanovic

      1. ireland123
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I've begovic, don't like doubling up on stoke defence

    2. Spatburgunder
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      collocini > Ivan?

    3. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Good to go.

      But 3.3m ITB. You can have Ivanovic with that 3.9m, right?

      How's about this? A or B?

      A: Di Maria + Welbeck
      B: Zaha + Falcao/Rooney

      1. Jebiga
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I realy like A

        1. NATSTER
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Thank you.

  2. partypan
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Di Maria or Mata?

    Rooney or…? Making WC.

    1. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Di Maria

    2. Deyanski
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Even LvG doesn't know yet 🙂 I guess Di Maria

  3. â­ Bemba_Da â­
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    thanks for pre-amble

    I like slow price rises

  4. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    I think the change to the price rises is a good thing. Waiting the whole of the last 2 weeks to make a transfer has been good.

    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I wish i'd paid more attention to the change.
      When Costa looked to be dropping due to injury b4 everton I lost him for Balotelli ðŸ™

    2. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      agreed

      Only change in my team was a 0.1 loss on Rooney in the past he would have dropped 0,3

  5. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Have to say it

    Article a ridiculous rant, woulldnt be suprised if it was Mark who gave them the ide to change it

    1. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      😆 you seem angry because your wc plan didn't work out

    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      hardly a ridiculous rant

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      It's better this way.

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        if they were going to do it, it should of been from the start, not suddenly in GW3 after so many pished WC buttons

        1. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Siggys rise was slow gw1

        2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          it was from the start

        3. jimski
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          It was already a little odd, but I agree seemed to slow even more.

        4. stilicho
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Eh? It was slower from the start.

        5. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Are you serious?

          It's been the same from the start.

          Everybody knew that price changes would be slower and advised people against going for the wildcard this week to drive up team value.

          I know I certainly did.

          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/31/scout-notes-gameweek-3-saturday-3/?hc_page=12#hc_comment_8148922

          1. Jairzinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            (and Sterling even rose by 0.2. more than I was expecting)

    4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I think you read a different article..

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      😆 😆 😆

      I have been WAITING for this! I have every sympathy! 😉

    6. SSJTevez
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Triggerlips you're a good manager but you're being such a baby.

      The game has changed, you need to adapt to it like all the good managers do - face it.

  6. FPL Emu
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Could I have a quick first to three?

    A) N. Taylor
    B) Coloccini

    Same price. B more nailed on?

  7. Christina.
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    That's rugby.

    Well played AB's. Best team in the world.

    Thanks Mr ref. No YC's and shit decisions.

    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      You're batting for team NZ ðŸ™

  8. Rossman
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Repost
    It's a roll of the dice maybe....but who to captain??

    Costa (does he play?!)
    Falcao
    Balotelli

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Costa

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      falcao benched.

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      In the squad..

  9. Jebiga
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Repost

    On wc. Crazy to go without rambo ? Think its not

    Curtois
    Moreno, clyne, wilson, duff, hutton
    Di maria, fabregas, sterling, siggurdson, boyd
    Diego costa, aguero, welbeck

  10. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Captain Hazard or Costa? 🙂

    1. Wells - Anti-Dentite!
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Costa.

    2. n-doggg
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Hazard

  11. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Pick 2 to start
    Pva debuchey moore

  12. Ash_195
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    is it worth it ??

    janmaat to lovren???

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah

    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      no

  13. terzza76
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    please help me . i made 3 transfers after gw3 on the monday and now im thinking of using my wc will it still deduct the transfers ive confirmed if i wc before the gw deadline ?
    i dont wanna wc and still take a hit
    sorry if this is a really dumb question
    regards

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      It will cancel the deductions.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks

    2. terzza76
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      thanks a lot very much appreciated !

  14. Blue Gaffer
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Is it worth these moves for -8

    Sturridge--->Aguero
    Colocinni---->4.1 or less defender probably Moore

    Have Rooney, Costa up front.

  15. Bobby Reds
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Do we think Courtois will keep his place?

    1. Wells - Anti-Dentite!
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, just signed a 5-year extension so he 'aint going nowhere

    2. Mulder
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yes.

    3. Oflow
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yup.

  16. Albert Cole
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Okay, after two intense weeks of WC tinkering, this is what I have landed on:

    Krul, Mannone
    Baines, Moreno, Wilson, Taylor, Wisdom
    Ramsey, Fabregas, Sterling, Sigurdsson, Boyd
    Falcao, Costa, Welbeck

    Hit me.

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Not a fan of it but good luck

    2. Wells - Anti-Dentite!
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Looks good!

  17. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    RMT says I should captain Hazard

    Bizzare

    1. n-doggg
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Do it

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Idiotic. I think it should be scrapped.

    3. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Clean sheet potential + gets 1 point more for scoring than forwards. So if say Hazard and Costa both scored 1 goal each today, Hazard will likely get more points than Costa

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        But I doubt he outscores Rooney or Raheem

  18. Oflow
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    (C)Naismith , straight from left field.

    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      nice

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Not the worst. Good luck! 🙂

    3. There's Always One!
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I sold him

  19. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Davis first sub if Ramsey or Costa don't play. Should I be concerned?

    1. n-doggg
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Most will be in a pickle if that happens

  20. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    I like it

  21. Jacketts Potatoes
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    please offer your opinions

    Krul
    Ivan clyne Dier
    Raheem fab Siggy Rambo
    Naismith Costa balo

    (Green) (dyer wisdom Hutton)

    £1.2 banked

  22. SamH123
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    best defender for 5.1 or less? (got clyne already)

    1. BLACKSHEEP
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Pieters

  23. Hunter X Hunter
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    If the Premier League REALLY wanted to attract and retain more players, they would make an app that is actually half decent and wouldn't charge for it (every year I might add).

    Casual players nowadays see an app as essential! Too many people I know have jumped the FPL ship to join the Sky Sports game instead and have no time for two games, especially when Sky has integrated the game so well into their TV coverage.

    Am I just overreacting? What are other people's views on this?

    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Nobody I know has switched from FPL to Sky Sports.

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Overreacting. FPL still has 3+ million players year in year out.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Overreacting*

      2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        at the beginning

      3. Hunter X Hunter
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Any idea how the numbers compare when you just include UK players for both games?
        I'd be interested to know this.

  24. FatmanAndRobin
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Good to go??

    Degea

    Moreno/Clyne/Pieters

    Lamela/Sterling (c)/Fab/Di Maria/Zaha

    Costa/Pelle

    McCarthy/Naismith/Duff/Naylor

  25. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Start Siggy or Mahrez?

    I really think Siggy can't get more than 2 points today.

    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      siggy

  26. Texas Pete
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Final check guys if you would...

    Begovic
    Ivanovic Clyne Moreno
    Sigurdsson Fábregas(VC) Ramsey Sterling
    Naismith Balotelli(C) Diego Costa

    Subs: Myhill Arfield Coloccini van Aanholt

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Lovely

      1. Texas Pete
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers.

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Star Arfield over Siggy

  27. Hiphopopotamus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    A) Baines & Chadli

    or

    B) Janmaart & Lamela

    No other Spuds or Toffees

  28. tw
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    where are you on costa vs sterling for captaincy this week and why?

  29. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Costa will eighter start or not feature at all?

    1. n-doggg
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Star