[sbu_large_image] Preamble
13 September 2014 2753 comments
Mark Mark
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In case you missed it (and, doubtless, the intention is that you do), the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) have appeared to have tweaked the algorithm that governs their player prices and, as a result, slowed the increases of player values. Where last season a strong bandwagon would soar, sometimes adding 0.3 to a player’s price in a week, now we’re seeing far steadier rises. While most of the three million who play FPL will be oblivious to this, many amongst the Fantasy Football Scout community are very aware of the change; some are not particularly enamoured by it.

I have to admit, I’m slightly biased on the matter. I was badly stung by player values last season. I missed several key bandwagons and watched those players – Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure – accelerate away from my budget, making it even more difficult for me to admit my error and bring them in after big points hauls.

Even before last season, though, I’ve always felt that the FPL market was too volatile, that players soared and dropped in price too quickly. I hear the arguments that this new landscape makes things easier for the “mainstream†and “casual†player but I’m struggling to see how this would persuade the FPL to shift back to a more changeable market. It may even have been the intention.

The Premier League want to attract and, more importantly, retain players. They’ve developed a game that has captured our imagination as seasoned Fantasy managers but they may have identified rising player prices as a factor that perturbs the more casual player. The Premier League don’t want to explain and make the price changes transparent – keeping them under wraps allows them to tinker during the season. Instead, they appear to have opted to curb their influence.

The calming of the price rises does remove some of the “advantage” (Tom Fenley won last season’s FPL title without monitoring them) gained by those who studied third-party tools and plotted the transfer strategies accordingly. However, equally, it also reduces the frustration we face when a bandwagon faces a term of absence.

Daniel Sturridge provides a timely example: he could be out for three weeks or more and yet his owners will have little qualms about selling him on because his price has not increased markedly, as a result there’s little or no concern on funds lost or the inability to fetch him back once he’s fit. In previous seasons, I’ve always felt we can be punished for getting in early on key players, watching them rise and then face the conundrum of losing funds when they pick up injuries or bans. That issue is exacerbated by the rapid rise in price in form players; based on the current trends, that should now be reduced.

This undoubtedly tweaks the mechanics of the game. If I miss out on a major bandwagon, I can jump on board a week later, leaving it until the following Friday and pay just 0.1 more or even the same price as those who beat me to the punch. Last season, in that scenario, I might have felt pushed into spending points or making my transfer early in the following week or risk paying 0.2 or 0.3 more.

The rewards for getting the right player at the right time aren’t reduced – those who make the right call, still get the points. However, the penalties for missing out have diminished. It’s not that the hardcore, hands-on manager is being punished, more that the casual manager can now relax, dip into the game every Friday and not get the impression that they are at a disadvantage.

The “hardcore†manager can object to this change but, realistically, we can’t expect the move to be reversed if it’s seen to broaden the appeal of the game. We just have to accept it and play what’s in front of us, relying on our ability swoop for big hauls and leave others chasing points. We also have to remember that the FPL have kept the system behind the player prices to themselves for this very reason – they reserved the right to change the way it worked and tweak the balance – it’s not in the rules so we have no guarantees.

On another note, I find it interesting that there’s a section of Fantasy managers that are missing this aspect of the FPL and the task of tracking market forces. Fantasy games often baulk at the idea of using stat-driven scoring matrix for fear of adding too much complexity. And yet, from the reaction to this recent change, a good deal of us enjoy the process of monitoring and playing a mechanic that is unexplained and revealed only by the use of third-party tools. We can’t deny that the art of player the FPL market was and still is a dark art – a hardcore pursuit. Seemingly, however, it’s something we’ll be left hankering for.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. ireland123
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    A) Keep the Coloccini/PVA rotation for long term

    B) Get a permanent 5.0 or 5.5 defender for the long term?

  2. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Mark out 😉

  3. Blue Moon Rising
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Start two from Chambers, Kolarov and Kelly?

  4. Magic8Ball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Who's the best 4.0m defender now. Got wisdom but don't think he'll play much now, so who to swap for?

    1. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      maybe Moore (lei)

    2. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I'd go Duff on fixtures but Moore is said on here to be most nailed

    3. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Moore and Hutton are the only options

  5. Notorious
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Owning Pelle feels so good. It's like having the King of football in your team.

      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      that isn't how you pronounce it.

  6. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    A or B?

    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      C

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        There's always one 🙄

        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          had to be done 😀

    2. PGR
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      B

    3. drughi
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      save

    4. ZakAFC_
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Wildcard

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      A

    6. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Eh?

  7. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Personally I like the new system atm

    I lost out so much last year due to having to make early transfers because of price (I actually lost a league on transfers made because of it). The slow-down works for me as I can take more time over transfer decisions without a player's price skyrocketing.

    I play FPL for points, if you have the right players the tv will follow.

    I know people like to use their main wc to make some cash, personally I prefer to use to either fix a raft of injuries or take advantage of a big DGW. But again, that's just me.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Indecisiveness ... 😉

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I used to think i fitted that description, now I'm not so sure

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Havering still ... 😆

    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Agreed.. been saying this all along. it was ridiculous that people making rash early transfers on saturday night were being rewarded with TV too. i like making my transfers on a Friday with every bit of information at hand. also this year the pricing seems kinder in the first place. can have a mercedes benz of a team from the start itself. so team value will just prove to be a luxury. last year i had about 5 million in the bank the last few GWs anyway

  8. Ady87
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Lol Moreno went up last night, guess I'm staying with Lovren 😀

  9. MTPockets
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Who to bench of Silva, Ramsey, Siggy, Naismith?

    1. Reddonkeyham 42
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Ramsey, hard fixture and unlikely to start.

  10. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Agüero(c)

    He better not disappoint...

    1. drughi
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      hamstring

      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Shhhhh

    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      good choice mate, we'll be rewarded im sure 😉

      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I'm blaming you if we don't. 😉

  11. Mak_Gold
    11 years, 10 months ago

    WC team:

    Mannone,
    Ivanovic, Clyne, Moreno,
    Sigurdsson, Fabregas, Sterling, Ramsey,
    Costa (V), Welbeck, Balotelli (C).

    Subs: Krul, Wilson, Wisdom, Boyd. (£0.1m in the bank)

    Can I run with this? Or should I do Balo + Wilson -> Rooney (C) + Duff? Thoughts appreciated.

    1. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Looks great, though I'd have Naismith instead of Welbeck and then upgrade Boyd to someone more reliable as a sub. Not a fan of Mannone/Krul rotation either

  12. VRP
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Best lot for the long term?

    A) Falcao + Ramsey + Naylor

    B) Falcao + Silva + Naylor

    C) Balo + Ramsey + Evan

    D) Balo + Ramsey + Maquillo

  13. Leon Harris
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Morning gents, urgent bit of advice needed please!

    Currently top 13k and due to injuries, sorted out my W/C team (-40 pts) and clicked 'make changes' by mistake without playing the wildcard - a moment of madness.

    IS THERE ANY WAY TO SALVAGE THIS?!!??!?!?!

    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      You go to transfers section and play WC

    2. mipola
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Play wildcard now.Hits will be removed

    3. Ady87
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Play the WC now it will wipe your hits off.

    4. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Make one TF, use your WC and reverse the transfer.

    5. Super-Hans
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Those will be erased once you activate you WC...

    6. The Shoonchy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Just go back to transfers page and click on Wildcard again, no worries

    7. Dougie
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah go back into transfers and activate wildcard, you made need to make a change to do it but that's fine as you can switch it straight back once wildcard is active..

    8. Leon Harris
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, JUST OFF TO HOSPITAL TO HAVE THE MINOR HEART ATTACK ATTENDED TO!

      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        😆 Keep a stock of Statins just in case of future need. 😉

    9. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      AhHH!!! Make sure any transfer doesn't have a price change to allow for.

    10. Shiner
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      you can play your WC now and it will count.

      My mate did the same last year.

  14. Plymouth
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Who is Evs captaining?

    1. Just A Hat
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Lamela

    2. Notorious
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Lukakaaa 😆

    3. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      He was muttering about rooney getting a big score earlier

    4. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Tadic

  15. MikeTHFC
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    I just know Ramsey is going to score today! Got a feeling about Zaha though.

    1. Notorious
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Of course he will, no doubt about it. 😉

  16. Calamity Cole
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Amemobi like

  17. Majestic like Zizou
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Costa or Sterling as captain?

  18. James231
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    start krul or foster?

  19. Ivz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Robertson from hull or Taylor from Swansea for wildcard team??

  20. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Hazard (c) done.

  21. El Reagano
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    No one giving the armband to Falcao? 😯

    1. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      next week

    2. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      yes, i am. and a few others on earlier were saying the same

    3. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Risky, plus Utd haven't played well

    4. Don Andres
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I am.

  22. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Sorry I have to post again I forgot to post my team -

    http://gyazo.com/790a53c794666c03fc2a79a95c873a79

    Is this good to go? I got 1.0 ITB, Cesc or Eden Hazard?

    Who shall I keep in the squad for long term, Lamela or Tadic?

    I am getting rid of Naismith in 2 weeks.

    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      2 stoke def? 2 def in saints match. hmmm

  23. Sheep Flavour
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Best 5.5 Def for the next few weeks?

  24. fantasyfanatic2016
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Wildcard Team, Please, Please, Please Comment

    De Gea (McCarthy)
    Moreno, Clyne, Wilson (N Taylor, Duff)
    Sterling, Fabregas, Di Maria, Sigurdson (Boyd)
    Costa, Balotelli, Pelle

    Please post if you have any suggestions, comments, improvements, they will be really appreciated 🙂

    1. Efan Ekoku Pops
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I like it. It's a yes from me.

    2. Killersquad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      get rid off DDG 😉

  25. Bring on the shots
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Sterling and Welbeck

    OR

    Henderson and Ballotelli

    1. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling and Welbeck

    2. Anders
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling and Welbeck

    3. Bring on the shots
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Thank you! 🙂

  26. Proggy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    I know a guy who knows a girl who's best friend knows a guy who went to school with Ramsey's cousin, and Ramsey's cousin says that he bumped into Ramsey in the supermarket (think it was ASDA, although not 100% confirmed) and Ramsey wasn't wearing a bib, he was wearing a turquoise, greeny-bluey t-shirt, and he had a Golden Delicious Apple, a Holland's Meat and Potato Pie, and some Syrup Sponge Pudding in his basket, according to sources.

    Ramsey ---> Sterling for -8?

    1. Just A Hat
      • 17 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Yes

      1. Proggy
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I am hearing it was Tesco's, not ASDA.

        You just never know with these sources.

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      *-4

    3. Ninjaa
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      What colour trainers did he have on

      1. Proggy
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        If we knew that, we wouldn't be in this awful predicament!

        ðŸ™

  27. DaveVak
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    News on Dier injury ?
    Will he be first team for long provided all are getting back in shape and recent buy ?

    1. The Shoonchy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Well, Kyle Walker is having a surgey, so he should be pretty assured to start
      I don't think Naughton will really rival him for a place

  28. el flacooo
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Adm or hazard?

  29. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Costa will play 60 mins, against a tight Swansea defence who we have only beaten three times in the last 7 meetings, all 1-0 wins as well.

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Hazard c so...

      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I'd be relaxed if I had Haz too

  30. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Balotelli or Costa. 1 week gamble

    1. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      balo