With Gameweek 21 done and dusted, we dig deep into the data in our regular Sunday evening article. A trio of in-form midfielders at Arsenal, Man City and Swansea are amongst tonight’s topics, whilst we also assess United’s alarming attack, Burnley’s raiding right-back and the main men for West Brom and Palace as Tony Pulis and Alan Pardew kick-start their respective stints at the helm with a victory.
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what do you guys think about Baines(WBA) one week punt, WC after that?
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I'm getting him this week for 2 week punt
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2 weeks is too long, dont want to over do it :D, going to punt on giroud next week on my WC and keep money in the bank to get Aguero or Costa after Chelsea v City
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Yeah do it.
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I think Soton getting the CL spot over United would be the sweetest thing ever.
Can you imagine the look on LvG's face on the final day of the season as the premier league's most expensive team ever assembled lose out to Koeman's Saints for the fourth spot?
It would be a thing of beauty.-
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Yes please. And by a new look soton which almost half of the last season starting 11 being sold
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Can't imagine Brendan Rodgers being too happy either having bought Southamptons"best" players
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"Give me 4 years"
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Imagine the embarrassment if he finished lower than Moyes.
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I'd pay 20 quid for that to happen.
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I raise you another 20.
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There you go Lvg, if you're reading this mate
Me and ENR will give you 40 quid if you finish 7th
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Your squad is more expensive than ours. But stop trotting out that BS line.
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*Meant to say I agree with you but stop
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Still need to include the fact tt they sign falcao on loan and giving 240k wages
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Farcical. We barely spent anything after Ronaldo left. Only started splashing the cash this summer. Our net spend was in the neighborhood of Tottenham's, FFS.
Bias media is biased.-
This was published at the end of August though so it's not part of any LvG witch hunt. Not sure there's much bias there.
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"Chris Smalling, for instance, cost £10m when signed from Fulham in 2010, Phil Jones cost £16.5m when he arrived from Blackburn in 2011, and Wilfried Zaha cost £15m. The much-maligned Anderson was £27m, Antonio Valencia £16m and Ashley Young £17m."
It all adds up.-
Haha the scary part is not even sure where the cash is spent. Then realize how few actually become an integral part of the team
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Just remembered Mata 38m too there...
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You reckon they're factoring in that 80m quid we got for Ronnie? Of course not. Just looking at fees of players currently in our squad which is an idiotic way to look at it or rather serve their bias.
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But they are taking everyone else's squad into account the same way too surely. What about Luiz 40m, Mata 38m and Lukaku 28m?
Expense is expense and right now United are most most expensive PL team assembled.-
What about revenue? What about all the inflated fees spent to build your squad up which created this market? Again, you're so ironic it hurts sometimes. Laugh at LvG and us all you want. I'll not try to defend us. But a Chelsea fan banging on about finances is farcical.
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Never mind all the shady third party business your owner, manager and Peter Kenyon are involved in.
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I'm not talking about revenue or inflated fees nonsense.
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Literally could not care less about the shady third party business Chelsea's owner, manager and Peter Kenyon are involved in.
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well put. given they disliked e/ oter from eredivise yrs ago. Koeman when he played as CB was always astute.
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i find the media very easy on mnu in the uk, europe and even s america. i mean, MNU arguably has several of the top 10-15 players of the world as of 1 yr ago in adm,rvp, falcao, rooney, and to alesser extent one of the top 3 players of eredivise in Blind. add Mata who is spain national team and its just an insane cast. nothing but top 2 in my book. MNU squad per name has more heavy hitters than MCI and arguably Chelsea. Oscar and William an Chelsea are not that high profile anyways. Yes im aware that mci and che are both teams in sync.
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People used to complain about the Chelsea and City "mercenaries". Well, imo, United are more of a team of mercenaries than any other football team in the world right now.
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agreed. oscar, cesc, and william for chealsea are not even in the same page as the "mercenary behavior" by MNU.
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I like Willian especially. Doesn't really get the returns in terms of goals/assists but always involved in build up play and puts in a great shift for the team.
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william is a freak. hes unstoppable, always plays vertical, nononsense sideways pass. he could develop LOTS. untaped talent. saw him in brasil. oscar is more confusing, volatile in performances. and haz is the one who can singlehandedly can take over a game when he wants. . saw him live at WC was a no-show, never understood that,
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At the WC, lucky guy
Pity Haz wasn't at his best-
Belgium could have beaten argentina imo and gone all the way to the final. haz-hadli-org-etc that team is deep in talent as everyone knows. think they need a bteer coach, bring an offensive minded dutch coach there or the like
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"saw him live at WC was a no-show, never understood that"
knackered after long season with no break - same as every other Prem player in last 2 WCs
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Predict aguero ownership in top 10k by next gw.
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Morning all……...I could do with some feedback on my WC team please:
Can't seem to find a decent Keeper combo that I'm happy with. I know Forster and Harmer / Schmeichel is popular and would mean I could (would have to) swap Bertrand for Azp / Clichy?
Foster - Speroni
Clyne - Bertrand - Wisdom - PVA - Wasilewski
Sanchez - Fab - Hazard - Downing - Boyd
Aguero - Kane - Austin-
Speroni to Myhill, Clyne/Bertrand to Terry.
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not sold on Myhill but could get Terry in for Bertrand and have 4.5 for 2nd keeper
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Do that if you're more comfortable, although I would be pretty happy with Myhill + .5m saved.
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I honestly am happy with the Foster/Myhill combo. Just sit back and play them each week. That 0.5 can really boot your defence in other places
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As he says above^!
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Did u drop 5m quid somewhere mate?
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not been paying much attention so far this season so team value is pretty pants!
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The Globes needs some Neil Patrick Harris. It's so dull this year.
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i hear the the opening was hilarious
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Damn I didn't wake up in time, If true, all downhill from there.
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Ah the Anchorman duo again. Cheers Sheep, that Cosby bit was hilarious!
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Needs some more Ricky Gervais!
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Just realized Jaaanmat has 5 assists... Tempting
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Should I WC from this team:
Foster / (McCarthy)
Azpi - Hutton - Baines / (Zaba / Yun)
Downing - Sanchez - Fab - Haz / (Siggy)
Ings - Austin - Benteke
To this team?
Foster / (Myhill)
Terry - Clyne - (PvA / Wasilewski / Baird)
Mata - Haz - Sanchez - Chadli / (Boyd)
Aguero - Austin - Kane
The only players I've ketp from my current team on my WC are Sanchez, Haz and Austin. Any help would be appreciated!-
Massive post fail...
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Foster. (McCarthy
Fonte. Terry. Pva (Wisdom, Wasi)
Siggy. Haz. Sanchez. Silva. (Boyd)
Aguero. Kane. Rooney-
Like it. Is McCarthy 4.0? If so go Myhill
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Maybe my fav WC draft yet!
Ok. Yea 4.0-
Rooney i guess is the only ? i might have. Guess the only option there is something like Austin over Rooney and big Siggy upgrade
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Yea but with their fixtures...
Rvp maybe hurt. Falcao maybe off. Adm not a striker. Mata useless
Rooney will come good with a hat trick one of these days and be bandwagon no.1
They have full squad back and fixtures, and just came off a 11 game unbeaten streak vs a top four team.
Personally loving the Rags plight, but, it won't last!!-
Fair enough, without going up to Costa nothing else appealing in his price range. Looks good
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Still genuinely baffled by the Rooney love. I cannot wait to get rid of him. Absolutely useless.
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Surely there isn't much love left for Rooney. Even Muppet is selling him
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Muppet must be raging.
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Muppet rampaging
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Yeah I have in my draft team now after trading him for Hazard with Declan *fuming*
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Rooney > Carroll my other 1 week punt this week I think. I don't expect to be getting Rooney back again
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wildcarding?
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Wait. Imo even a -4 is worth for buying a week more. I m doing that with aguero.
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what is your transfer this week?
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Austin->ings
Costa->aguero
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Siggy's stats are quite nice without Bony in the team. I sold him for Chadlii anyway because his next 2 fixtures are bad and I plan to WC in GW24. Still, Siggy will be worth having once the fixtures turn.
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+1. Siggy will be on the radar season long
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Nice for a 352
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Premier league so far imo
Dream Team:
__________de Gea
___Clyne Fonte Terry Bertrand
______Matic____ Fabregas___
_________Downing________
____Sanchez______ Hazard__
__________Aguero_________
Manager: Koeman
Whats your XI and manager ?-
Azpi over Bertrand.
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Perhaps swap out Downing and put in Austin alongside Aguero.
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Yep i agree with this actually, Austin or Kane
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He Jay, how did the wc work out? Appreciate your help last week
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Absolute nightmare defensively mate mate 🙁
Cahill dropped, Debuchy injured after 12 minutes
RVP failed hard too, but realistically i didn't expect much from today, i was planning on keeping him for the next 2 but the manner of the defeat and minor injury has rushed through my RVP to Aguero, how did yours go mate ?-
Average i guess. Got a mid 60's score but still a red arrow. Same thing with my one week punt on RVP, hes already Aguero. Debuchy and Cahill is bad luck but just a quick -4 to sort Debuchy and alls good
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Yep ive already done it, Gardos in, but i still would like a Arsenal defender, and Gardos is only temporary i was .1 short of Fonte very frustrating
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de gea
janmaat (defo over clyne) Fonte Tery Bert/Pieters
Cesc Sisoko/(downing better in fpl but think sisoko is a freak)
sanchez haz
charlie agueri
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Frank De Boer. Laurent Blanc. Jose Mourinho.
These are the only three who could save us I think.
Won't happen anyway. Where's the whiskey?-
I like Frank de Boer but he's done nothing to show he'd be an upgrade on Louis van Gaal. And having spent about a decade of his career coached bu him I'd guess he picked up a few habits from him.
Blanc I don't get at all. Heinherited Ancellotti's squad of stars and sits 4th in Ligue 1.-
You need to do some reading on Blanc then. Never should've taken the PSG job as it's a poisoned chalice. It's his work with Bordeaux that was impressive.
De Boer more of a risk but who else is there?-
You'd take Blanc work at Bordeaux whilst dismissing his PSG stint.
But write off LvG after 6 months at Utd? Van Gaal has Ajax Barcelona AZ Bayern and Netherlands as examples of his work.
In the 18 months since Ferguson retired it seems Man Utd is every bit the poison chalice that PSG is.
I really can't see Van Gaal being removed.-
Van Gaal's credentials are overrated. Blanc has ideas and vision in the transfer market, which is completely wasted at PSG. He just had to suspend two of their best players for not giving a toss. Joke of a club.
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You should never have sacked Moyes 😉
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I have the whisky. What would you like?
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Laphroig, neat. Make it a double.
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I drink Laphroig! Not many round my part of the woods who do as I am firmly in the Speyside region
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Hey Pal,
For the next 2 GW..which one is priority to have?
1) ADM (qpr, LEI)
2) Kun Aguero (ARS, che)-
Regardless of fixtures i still think Aguero
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ADM jusst though
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For those putting Kun immediately in their team, is no one worried about a player fresh returned off semi serious injury with ARS and che as next two figures?
Don't see much haul here with possibly monitored minutes, even for Kun.
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I think the people worrying about all that are the ones who are not getting kun straight away. Like me
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I am. But he is also pretty much the only player who can come in for 15 minutes and drop two goals against basically anyone. Really frustrating situation IMO.
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Same here.Planning to hold on Austin. Will get Kun after Chelsea game.
Just a bit worry about not having Kun against weak Arsenal defend this week.
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Probably Aguero. His price could get too high for most and he's capable of hurting any team.
Di Maria has the better fixtures though-
Basically i have to decide with these two option before wildcard on GW24:
1) Yaya > ADM (FT)
2) Yaya + Austin > Kun + MF 7.7 (point hit)
Not many choice for MF around 7.7M except Tadic-
Yaya is the player that most urgently needs moved on. If you can swallow up to 0.5 in price rises then you can maybe wait til gw24 for Aguero. If not you'll need to get him sooner if you want him.
My money is tight so I've brought him in already whilst I still can-
Another option:
Yaya + Costa > ADM + Kun (point hit)
How do you rate this trade? I maybe need Costa back in my WC team and losing 0.1 from current price-
I don't mind that trade. I'd have both Costa and Aguero but if I had to chose I'd rather have Aguero. If you're only losing 0.1 then Costa shouldn't be too difficult to get back if you want him later.
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How would you choose between Bertrand and Clyne?
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Get both 😀
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Bertrand for BAPs, Clyne for chance of goals is the thinking if I'm not wrong
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*Fonte for BAPs, IMO
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Yeah, but at around the same price Berty is more attacking compared to Fonte.
What I meant was Berty's the BAPpier one compared to Clyne
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Hey All,
Deliberating over whether to WC this GW or not
Pantilimon Fabianski
Clyne Zabaleta Trippier Hutton Naylor
Fabregas Hazard Sigurdsson Downing Boyd
Costa Rooney Kane
2FTs | £2.5m in bank
A. WC
B. Rooney > Aguero
C. Rooney/Sigurdsson > Sanchez/FWD sub£8.2m
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I've held Clyne from GW1, so the value is there for mine... but if bringing one or the other in - flip a coin. Having both could work also
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reply fail @ James One
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Stay away from Zabs... not worth the $$
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Hello Gents ...
Is Ospina a worthy punt ?-
I wouldn't think so...unless he's confirmed as the No.1
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Just see the Wenger interview after the game he seemed to suggest Scez is still number one, seems more like a 1 game punishment to me
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Think I'm just going to have to eat the price rises in Kun for now because I don't want him yet. Who's with me?
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Would you say this even after his brace this week ?
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Ugh. Okay maybe I will get him in...
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Fools. Just fools.
He will knock Arsenal for six. Three literally.
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I hope he stays fit and goes on an epic run of form so Madrid finally come calling this summer.
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City must be just about the only club that cannot be greenmailed no?
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How do you figure?
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The wealthiest ownership was all I meant. There is really no reason they would want to sell for any price that I can think of. Unless he really wants to go for personal reasons.
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Of course they wouldn't want to sell. But he'd want to go. And they wouldn't be able to stop him as it's FFP they have to worry about not how deep their pockets are.
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I dunno, haven't they been under a bit of FFP pressure recently?
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Questions who would they buy? It's going to be someone really expensive I would guess, so net not likely big gains for FFP.
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Good point.
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Benzema most likely.
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Depends how annoyed I am with Rooney come the time I make my transfers.
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Should I WC from this team:
Foster / (McCarthy)
Azpi - Hutton - Baines / (Zaba / Yun)
Downing - Sanchez - Fab - Haz / (Siggy)
Ings - Austin - Benteke
To this team?
Foster / (Myhill)
Terry - Clyne - (PvA / Wasilewski / Baird)
Mata - Haz - Sanchez - Chadli / (Boyd)
Aguero - Austin - Kane
The only players I've ketp from my current team on my WC are Sanchez, Haz and Austin. Any help would be appreciated!-
3.2m ITB
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Perhaps go for someone other than Mata and I think you have yourself a team!
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Thanks man! I wanted Di Maria, but after watching him against the Saints I don't want him anymore. He was right awful, even his set-pieces were rubbish. I want some United cover and Mata looked the most threatening.
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*kept
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Been having solo keeper with rotating pair since the start of last season..it works well for me at least.
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Aren't a solo keeper and a rotating pair mutually exclusive?
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Typo. Dislike typing on phone lol
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Confused by this. Which are you doing? Solo OR rotating?
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what?
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Chelsea mid is a minefield. it's partly Mou's fault but it is what it is.
could be anyone gets the points that week.
everyone saying Hazard but it's very random. am thinking safest cover here is still Costa.-
He is too expensive and offers very little value, for 11.2 until he starts bagging braces he's not worth it.
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Might get him if I switch to 4-3-3
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I think Hazard will still rise above the rest. Fabregas and Oscar will have their days but most of the time Hazard will be the main man in midfield. Costa will continue to get a steady stream of 6pters
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Both Haz and Fab have more points than Costa. 128, 114, 103. I'd take either over Costa
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And both are cheaper
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Foster - Krul
Terry Waseliwski Baird Gardos PVA
Haz Sanchez Silva ADM Boyd
Kane Kun Austin
Wildcard team. Not really happy with the defense. Suggest something please?
Chasing big time in the mini league.-
Silva to Chadli and use cash for defence?
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Chadli will start regularly you think?
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Think so. If you leave your team as it is, still good
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Yeah he seems back to fitness and back as a starter. Great value
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Austin -> Ings for next 3 GWs
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Cool. I will make the Silva to Chadli downgrade and upgrade the defense a bit. Not convinced with Garidos at all.
I think QPR will score 2-3 goals in next three games and Austin should be involved in all of them.
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What position will it take for United to sack LVG?
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6th
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Yeah? I was thiniking no CL and he's gone.
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Europa might still save him
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No other managers to replace him with atm.
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Relegation zone
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I actually thought they played well against the Saints. Defence as a lot better, with Rojo still to return. Remember Arsenal lost 2-0.
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They had all the possession in the world but did completely nothing productive with it. Got to give credit to Saints though.
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Yeah, the Saints sat back though. Difficult to break down.
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They weren't at home though.
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Rojo is piss.
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He's still better than the other comedians you have at the back 😆
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No he's not. In fact he's worse. Smalling the only reliable CB we have ATM. Jones needs to sort himself out.
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I really thought Vlaaar would be a good fit but know too many injuries
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Vlaar is massively overrated.
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United will finish in the top 4 so LVG won't be sacked
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Even if they finish 5th he won't be sacked imo
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Time will tell I suppose.
I just think United's luck will start to run out. Arsenal, Spurs are regaining some momentum. Soton have great fixtures and form. Liverpool's best is yet to come. Amidst all this, LVG is still clueless.
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WC team.
Do you think my backline is to weak?..... If so any advice?
Heaton
Wisdom - Bertand - Hutton
Cesc - Sanchez - ADM - Silva
Costa - Kun - Kane
Hamer - Duff - Wasi - Wanyama-
Chelsea defender would have been good. Also Wanyama > Boyd
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Finding it difficult to fit a Chelsea defender in, unless downgrade Silva?
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Downgrade silva yes. No Hazard?
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Is Hazard a must when I have Cesc? Silva to Chadli and Duff for Terry?
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Alight, getting close to a final WC decision.
Heation - (Pants)
Terry - Bert - Cameron - (PVA - Wasil)
Sanchez - Haz - Downing - ADM - (Boyd)
Kane - Crouch - Aguero
1.1itb.
Crouch my 2 week punt, then back to Austin.
Downing -> Chadli after this gw.
Any other ideas?
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stick with Austin.
Fab all day.-
I plan on getting Austin back after 2 weeks. Definitely 1. Really torn on the fab/adm. United have some awesome fixtures coming up..
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I was fairly set on bringing in Costa this week (on WC - kun, Kane, Costa fwd line.)
But the Costa cash can be spread so nicely.
Costa, Trippier, P.Jones or
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With Alderweireld and Debuchy out, is anyone considering Moreno as a ~5.0 DEF option?
(dives into bunker awaiting sarcastic responses)-
Yeah, that's exactly what our back lines need, a Liverpool defender! 😆
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Good start. Not quite as harsh as expected...
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(resisting sarcastic responses) No
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near essential based on Liverpool's defensive performances this season.
don't forget, he's 'very attacking'
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I'm holding out on WCing for another week and just did Benteke --> Kane, that means that I'm going without Aguero...
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At home to an Arsenal without Debuchy, Kun will run circles around Merte and Chambers
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anyone thinking Chambers now Debuchy is out ?
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I just asked about Moreno above, but I suppose Chambers would be a similar ~5.0 DEF choice. Tough choices in that price bracket. Perhaps best to avoid.
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Debuchy just needs to pop his shoulder back in. Sorted 😎
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Alcaraz was out for a long time with the same injury
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Alcaraz popped the wrong shoulder and dislocated the 2nd. Then he had no more arms left to pop shoulders. Had to just wait until they receded into their sockets.
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I'd wait until the specialist updates. He's missing City but you'd probably bench him anyway for that. Then 2 week break - possible he's able to recover in that time. I've no idea what the standard recovery is though. But I'd wait for now.
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Play Chadders or Boydinhoo? (I have Kane)
Captain Aguero or Kane or Hazard?
Thanks in advance-
Chadders
Aguero
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Why does LVG still persist with a 3-5-2 system, especially revolving around RVP?
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No idea! Koeman himself said after the game he knows United have problems building up the play with 3 at the back
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Stubborn. Thinks his players can adjust, even though they can't
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Yeah its time to give it up. Rooney in behind a main striker has to be the way forward for United. Bring back the 4231
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Something like this would be ideal
___________________DDG___________________
Jones_______Evans________Rojo_________Shaw
__________Carrick__________Herrera__________
Januzaj____________Rooney_____________ADM
___________________RVP__________________
with loads of alternative options like Smalling, Fellaini, Mata, Falcao, Valencia etc
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Arrogance, cockiness, call it what you want.
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