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4 August 2015 5434 comments
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With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. Ninjaa
    11 years, 2 months ago

    new draft, how we looking chaps?

    Butland Ruddy 
    Azpi Cedric mert coates baker 
    Sterling Hazard ozil mane surman 
    Rooney benteke Wilson 

    Thanks for Constructive criticism

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Surman! You get it

      1. TJ_777
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Who is he ?

      2. Ninjaa
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Nope

      3. Ninjaa
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Surman or Anya for my 4.5m mid punt?

    2. sleecc
      11 years, 2 months ago

      better than your previous team, very nice.

    3. The_Colonel
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I like it. Nice work.

    4. Gorgles
      11 years, 2 months ago

      we looking like every single other draft

      1. Ninjaa
        11 years, 2 months ago

        No benteke mane or coates in any other draft

  2. Aurora Borealis?
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Bit of a bonkers plan, but could use my All out Attack chip GW1

    Schmeichel / Hen
    Yoshida / Gomez / Francis / O'Shea / Huth
    Hazard / Silva / Walcott / Mane / Chadli
    Rooney / Benteke / Wilson

    I know a couple of my defenders are punts, but as long as 2 of them play I'm sweet, when else am I going to have an all 4.5m back line. Then I can then drop one of my midfielders e.g Chadli to a 4.5 or 5.5 mid and upgrade my defence if anyone didn't play.

    1. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      That defense will force you to an early wildcard.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        He could play 253 for a week at least 🙂

        1. Walsh
          11 years, 2 months ago

          😉

      2. Doctor X
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I second Walsh's statement.

    2. Aurora Borealis?
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Or maybe take an early 8pt hit, which I doubt Chadli would get. Thought it was a bit crazy. When is a good time to play your all out attack chip then?

      1. Ayew Serious
        11 years, 2 months ago

        When your defenders have terrible fixtures?

        1. Aurora Borealis?
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Maybe, one would think you could plan ahead to avoid this. Maybe if you build up enough profit that you can afford a decent 5th mid, then you go for it.

      2. Jebus Saves
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Taking an 8 point hit that early is madness..

    3. Liftbox
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Or Silva to Sterling and 4.5 to Cedric on D.

      Little better at the back and still MC coverage.

      1. Aurora Borealis?
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Ahh sorry liftbox, it's already sterling not silva that's already there. Good suggestion thou

  3. Doctor X
    11 years, 2 months ago

    My system seems to be churning out these difficult choices today. Got another one

    A. Ritchie, D. Sakho
    B. Milner, C. Wilson

    1. Liftbox
      11 years, 2 months ago

      B

  4. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Just wondering when posters who aren't in the UK are posting from?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      where*

      1. TJ_777
        11 years, 2 months ago

        California

        1. Miami Monkey
          11 years, 2 months ago

          same. tho im not really posting

    2. Doctor X
      11 years, 2 months ago

      The UAE at 50°C temperatures when the sun is out. FML.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        11 years, 2 months ago

        Wow, sounds like fun.

      2. Liftbox
        11 years, 2 months ago

        US. And no one would be surprised if it snowed in August here 🙂

    3. osceola31909
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Georgia, USA

    4. sleecc
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Malaysia

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        11 years, 2 months ago

        same here

        1. sleecc
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Good morning!

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Morning to you sir. Where in Bolehland?

          2. Penang Sandman
            11 years, 2 months ago

            morning guys

            1. NABIL - FPL otai
              11 years, 2 months ago

              morning to you

    5. Swan - Villa Proud
      11 years, 2 months ago

      The States, just north of Philadelphia

    6. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Los Angeles

      1. TJ_777
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Oh cool I live in anaheim

        1. Walsh
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Sort of neighbors! 🙂

          1. TJ_777
            11 years, 2 months ago

            🙂

    7. Davido989
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I must be one of the few from the uk on right now

    8. The_Colonel
      11 years, 2 months ago

      California atm but bk in the UK next week

    9. Test Eagles
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Adelaide, Aus

      1. Goodnight Kiwi
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Hope you're not a Rugby fan 😛 Saturday incoming

        1. Test Eagles
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I'm not looking forward, TBH

    10. Goodnight Kiwi
      11 years, 2 months ago

      NZ

    11. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Detroit

    12. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Brunei

    13. The Shadow
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Pennsylvania, USA.

    14. Norb
      11 years, 2 months ago

      From the home of Zlatan of course - Sweden

    15. Super Frank
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Cairo, Egypt 😀

    16. Call Me Old Fashioned
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Boston, USA

    17. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Florida, USA

      1. Colonel Klink
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I'm a Floridian as well.

    18. Trovsmash
      11 years, 2 months ago

      AUSSIE

    19. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Denver Colorado

    20. Gorgles
      11 years, 2 months ago

      New York City 🙂

    21. BinIvanovic
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Florida, USA

    22. Yagermeister
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Oak Ridge, TN

  5. How Mina You
    11 years, 2 months ago

    What's all this about Joe Gomez starting over Moreno?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      11 years, 2 months ago

      Gossip

    2. Davido989
      11 years, 2 months ago

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/10689514

      brilliant in pre season, br praise and moreno returning to training overweight

    3. Davekitson
      11 years, 2 months ago

      think I'll chance him, only really needed for GW2 looking at my other defensive options so it's either him or a Watford defender

      1. How Mina You
        11 years, 2 months ago

        So will I

  6. Salah’s Sonnet
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Changed my team again! knew i would! 🙂 Anyone care to give their opinion on this latest team?

    Walsh, i know you've given great advice to me in the past on here, care to give anymore? 🙂

    Schmeichel
    Ivanovic - Mertersacker - Coates
    Mane - Ozil - Hazard - Cazorla
    Benteke - Rooney - Wilson
    __________________________
    Hennessey: Huth, Bentaleb, Targett

    I was going to go with a power front three but there is so much to be gained from having that cheap 3rd forward to start with. Would you downgrade any defenders to beef up another position?

    Any comment greatly appreciated.

    1. Doctor X
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I honestly cannot see much wrong with that team, besides Target maybe.

      1. Oz lotto
        11 years, 2 months ago

        i like targett. has been starting no?

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers man, i do like it, my other team had rooney, kane and pelle as the main fwds, with sinclair instead of mane and cedric instead of ivan. Still prefer the look of this team instead?

    2. Liftbox
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I like it.

      The Bentaleb pick is very under rated imo

    3. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Its a bit heavy at the back for me.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah it even is for me actually, could do ivan to azpi but no idea where to spend the extra mill apart from upgrading keeper maybe

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I like one big 4 small.

          If I had Ivan or even azpi I wouldn't have a mertesacker for example.

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah i do agree, just i feel Merts or any arsenal defender is a must have this season, things like this just come down to personal preference though i suppose.

    4. Davekitson
      11 years, 2 months ago

      don't see the big attraction with cazorla personally, sure he'll play a lot but he plays deep, he'll assist the assister. Arsenal for me is a Walcott ozil ramsey decision

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I have to agree, i'm toying with the idea of caz > ramsey

        1. Davekitson
          11 years, 2 months ago

          yeah I'm on Walcott at the minute but still very much undecided, lukaku v tekkers is my other quandary

      2. The Shadow
        11 years, 2 months ago

        He did very well last year from that spot. The danger is that he is moved to the wing to accommodate Ramsey again like the CS. He hasn't performed as well on the wing.

    5. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Looks pretty standard, mate. Wouldn't touch the defense unless you want to upgrade Targett to a 4.5. Can't fault any of your choices in attack, it looks strong.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers Walsh really appreciate it. I think i'll leave it as it is then. 🙂

  7. Oz lotto
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Little help please lads:
    A) Ruddy and Butland and Coates
    B) Pants Rudd and Bassong

    I'm just scared of choosing wrong between Ruddy and Butland so will most likely go for B

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A) Easily

    2. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A for me

    3. Liftbox
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Stoke's D isn't what it used to be and Norwich is. well, Norwich.
      So I think..
      B

      1. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Ruddy was good in the past for save points....

    4. Davekitson
      11 years, 2 months ago

      easily B for me

    5. Moss
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A easily

    6. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      B as i think Panti will be gold this season

  8. SpaceCadet
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Which 5m defender would you suggest to go with this defence?

    Cech henn
    Azpi jenko bassong targett 5m

    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Cedric?

    2. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Cedric

    3. WeirdyBeardy90
      11 years, 2 months ago

      PVA

    4. Huddersfield
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Amavi

  9. Caesar, Hot Mustache
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts?
    Schmeichel
    Cedric Mert Azpi
    Fabregas Depay Ozil Henderson
    Rooney Benteke Kane

    Subs: Schwazer O'shea Wayanma Smith.

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      First off Oshea out Coates in

      1. SH
        11 years, 2 months ago

        O'shea isnt nailed on?

    2. Davekitson
      11 years, 2 months ago

      very nice, I don't like Henderson as a pick but that's just me, also no idea who smith is

    3. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Who is Smith? I really, really like that attack though. Lots of flair. I'd swap Mert for a 5.0 and upgrade Smith to 4.5 and switch O'Shea for someone who is nailed.

      1. Caesar, Hot Mustache
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I'd always thought O'shea seemed most nailed on. haha, smith is just my cheapie. I've been struggling to replace him

    4. osceola31909
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I like it. I am thinking about not having Hazard too.

      1. Caesar, Hot Mustache
        11 years, 2 months ago

        yeah. risky! I hope I don't regret it. I can always downgrade for him anyway

    5. Huddersfield
      11 years, 2 months ago

      itb ?

  10. Zigfreed
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Hiya, guys! RMT please?

    Panti - (Schwarzer)
    Kosc - Cedric - Francis - (Angella - Steven Taylor)
    Haz - Ozil - Sterling - Ritchie - (Sinclair)
    Pelle - Rooney - Benteke

  11. Tiamani Warrior
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Berba still around? I liked your snooping of the Sunderland forums last page - could you manage the same trick for a starting keeper at Palace?

    1. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Hennessey will start over McCarthy.

      1. Tiamani Warrior
        11 years, 2 months ago

        cheers walsh what info do you have? from what i could found in the tabloids palace seemed pretty happy to capture mccarthy?

        1. Walsh
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I'm a Palace supporter 🙂 McCarthy a nice coup, but he's raw. Hennessey started our last friendly and I expect him to hold his place. He is quite good and has never really put a wrong foot forward since we got him last year albeit in limited gametime.

          1. Tiamani Warrior
            11 years, 2 months ago

            nice thanks! got him in your team for a few weeks then? any chance of holding the spot over speroni if he puts in some good performances?

            1. Walsh
              11 years, 2 months ago

              I mean I'm really not sure, and there isn't much clarity. This could be Jules' last season with us, but I still expect him to retain the number one spot when fit. I agree three keepers is too much, and I really thought Hennessey to WBA was going to happen, but now it appears not so much. I suppose he could still go once the season opens and McCarthy slots in to back up Speroni but the timing is awkward now.

          2. Tiamani Warrior
            11 years, 2 months ago

            3 decent keepers seems a bit excessive whats the thinking there you reckon? hennessey still be on his way out at some point or speroni?

            1. oghash
              11 years, 2 months ago

              I'm a palace fan also. All 3 will stay. Pardew said that Jules has fallen behind the other two at the moment as it's a 3 way battle for the number 1 spot. Hennessey will start on Saturday, if he keeps it depends on performance I think.

  12. Davekitson
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Who's everyone's differential pick for GW1??

    I'm going bamford

    1. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I love Bamford, but I fear it is a bit too early for him. I'd be rather surprised to see him start GW1.

      1. Davekitson
        11 years, 2 months ago

        hmm away to Norwich seems a nice way to build up a strikers confidence, though I guess he may be restricted to the last 30

        1. Walsh
          11 years, 2 months ago

          He's just so new. I think Murray will start. Bamford will be eased in, and Wickham complicates things a bit, but I think Bamford will be FPL gold at some point this season.

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Payet Sinclair

    3. Huddersfield
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Mahrez

  13. How Mina You
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Courtois - Hennessey
    Merte - Jenko - Coates - Huth - ?

    A) Wisdom
    B) Gomez

    1. amol
      11 years, 2 months ago

      B for short term
      A for long term

  14. amol
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Good to go?

    Schmeichel (Schwarzer)
    Kosc Azpi Cedric (Matthews Francis)
    Hazard Ozil Sterling Hendo (Ibe)
    Benteke Wilson Rooney

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      You know your DEF is too strong when u have AVL(H) on the bench

    2. Tiamani Warrior
      11 years, 2 months ago

      really like the defence. ozil and hendo are just slightly boring picks for me though.

  15. Liftbox
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Just an observation.
    Not seeing much if Siggy, Eriksen, or even Kane.

    I am not sold on Benteke (mainly liverpool) and it would take a lot for me to consider Pelle

    Obviously I am in a minority on the last two,

    1. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      First gameweek....people are hesitant to put in players who will most probably score poorly against superior teams....Spurs v ManU and Swans v Chelsea.

      It's important to get a good start.

      1. Walsh
        11 years, 2 months ago

        It is, but there are 38 gameweeks 🙂 Swansea have NEW sun right after che. If those fixtures were in a different order I'd bet Siggy would be in quite a few more teams...People often get blinded by just the GW1 fixture.

        1. Jebus Saves
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 2 months ago

          The appeal of Benteke in Liverpool is arguably more appealing than Kane now though.

          I think I'll take the gamble for the first few and reconsider after.

          1. Walsh
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Could certainly pay off. That is a close one.

    2. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I agree with Siggy completely. I think Eriksen is maybe the worst 8.5 midfielder in the game, though.

    3. sleecc
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I have Kane & Pelle in my draft.

  16. Moss
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Evening DZ, how does this look?

    Ruddy
    Kos Azpi Huth
    Hazard Sterling Chadli Walcott
    Sakho Pelle Rooney

    Butland Coates Anya Turner.

    1. amol
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Looks good, don't like pelle tho (probably just me)

      1. TJ_777
        11 years, 2 months ago

        No not just u

        1. Ayew Serious
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I second this

      2. Moss
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I think Pelle will out perform Tekkers in the opening gameweeks, long term he could be an option.

    2. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Pretty solid

    3. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Anya and Turner are dodgy. Otherwise looks good.

    4. Moss
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Thanks all

  17. Theatre_Of_Screams
    11 years, 2 months ago

    (A) Sakho & Sterling

    (B) Teke & Chadli

    1. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    2. Jay_
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A but both good options

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    4. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A to start but i think B might outscore A in the long run

  18. Jay_
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Evening all got the spine of my team sorted and could start the season like this but have a spare .5 and really unsure of the best way to use it.

    Schmeichel Hennesey
    Cedric Francis Jenkinson Martin Gomez
    Hazard Walcott Sterling Mane Fletcher
    Rooney Benteke Sakho

    A: Schmeichel > Panti
    B : Fletcher > Sinclair
    C: Walcott > Ozil to fund 'A' and 'B'

    I think Panti will out score Schmeichel but not by much and would feel much more secure having Panti in goal than Schmeichel, on the other hand Sinclair seems too much good value to pass up and could gain value quickly in first few weeks plus I could bench Sakho for him gw1 and also Sinclair brings the AOA chip

    Or forget all that and go for

    D: rebuild defence forget Cedric and WHU/BOU NOR/LIV rotations and get Darmian instead of Jenkinson and a more secure 4.5 than Gomez to have Darmian Cedric and 3 x 4.5

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Sterling to Yaya
      Tekkers to Kane
      Option?

      1. Jay_
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Really fancy Sterling to do well and Benteke my gw2 captain, prefer him to Kane despite that too, thanks for feedback though it's nice to have other options

        1. Ayew Serious
          11 years, 2 months ago

          If u do consider it don't forget Kane is a Gw 2 captain also

          1. Jay_
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Stoke pretty solid and won that fixture 0-1 last season I think, BOU the much better fixture imo, I have a feeling they will try to attack and get hurt big time

  19. Davido989
    11 years, 2 months ago

    I'm really content with my team but..

    A) Azpi + Wilson + .5
    B) Mertesacker + Sakho

    1. amol
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    2. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Azpi and Sakho would be so nice....
      Anyway u can make 0.5?

      1. Davido989
        11 years, 2 months ago

        nope 🙁

    3. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    4. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

      you think rodgers will give us any indication that Benteke may start?

      1. Davido989
        11 years, 2 months ago

        yes mate

    5. Jay_
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I'm not too fussed about having the top teams defenders early doors but maybe I'm making a big mistake, would go for B just because it's Sakho, not fussed about Arsenal or Chelsea defence I think Cedric will beat them for cleanies early on

      1. Davido989
        11 years, 2 months ago

        hmm i'll leave it for now, chelsea defence is a thing of a beauty

  20. Kamo Warrior
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Jagielka or Mertesacker or Bellerin?

    1. SH
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin

    2. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Bellerin

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Belle

      1. tw
        11 years, 2 months ago

        why him over mert? keep going back and fourth between the two and not sure how to separate them

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Nothing vey indicative here, but I think Gabriel will ge into the team earlier than Debs. Belle is playing so good

          1. Huddersfield
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Bellerin was the worst def vs Chelsea

    4. Salfpilgrimlfc
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Is bellerin as nailed as mert?

  21. SH
    11 years, 2 months ago

    nailed on 4.5 defender from Sunderland?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Coates and hope.

      1. SH
        11 years, 2 months ago

        O'shea?

        1. Arvin-ation
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 2 months ago

          No, he said Coates.

    2. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Coates is closest

    3. Walsh
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Matthews would be my pick.

      1. pablo discobar
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Matthews very much at risk from Jones. It is a tough call. You would think Kaboul most nailed out of all of them, but by all accounts its Coates

        1. Walsh
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I said it the other day, but I don't think Matthews left Celtic to back up Billy Jones. Sure, Jones may start GW1, but I believe he was bought with the intention of him being their every week RB.

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            11 years, 2 months ago

            what would be the point of that? why wouldn't Matthews just start from the off if he was first choice? He's had a full preseason with Sunderland.

            1. Walsh
              11 years, 2 months ago

              Idk. Could be out of touch, but I think Matthews will emerge 🙂

              1. Nabs Kebabs
                11 years, 2 months ago

                Very possibly but it's hard to say when. And i don't think he is anywhere near the best answer to the original question for this thread.

                1. Walsh
                  11 years, 2 months ago

                  Yeah you're right haha 🙂

                  1. Nabs Kebabs
                    11 years, 2 months ago

                    😉

      2. Nabs Kebabs
        11 years, 2 months ago

        looks second choice to Billy Jones to me. Only played one full preseason game and played no part in the last 2 where Jones played out both.

        1. Walsh
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Can't see that lasting more than a game or two.

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            11 years, 2 months ago

            either way, makes a lot more sense to pick Coates for security. You can't pick someone who is not first choice.

        2. The Shadow
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Yes. It looks like it's Jones' to lose at least.

          1. Arvin-ation
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Agree with this

      3. ollie -
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Long term Matthews, short term Coates.

        Dick has to reward players for form. To begin the season it's Jones' to lose, wouldn't feel comfortable starting with him.

        Similar situation as to Rose and Davies last season.

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Coates. FInd 0.5 for PVA and some maverick.

      1. tw
        11 years, 2 months ago

        aren't there better options at 5m than pva though?

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Maybe. If he's insist on SUN defense then PVA is the man to get.

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            11 years, 2 months ago

            ignore the grammar mistake

    5. Nabs Kebabs
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Coates by a mile.

    6. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Coates, Kaboul, then O'Shea is how I'd line it up.

  22. pablo discobar
    11 years, 2 months ago

    A

    GK Ruddy/Butland
    DEF Ivan, Mertesecker, Cedric, Coates, Huth
    MID Marhez, Walcott, Ozil, Hazard, Ki
    FWD Rooney, Benteke, Wilson

    B

    GK Ruddy/Rudd
    DEF Azpi, Mertesecker, Cedric, Coates, Huth
    MID Mane, Walcott, Ozil, Hazard, Bentalab
    FWD Rooney, Benteke, Wilson

    In B i`m sacrificing GK rotation, Ki goes to Bentalab, Marhez to Mane.

    I do like B, but A gives me rotation with Marhez and Ki, and I think not having Butland might hurt longterm. B obviously gives me Mane

    1. Davekitson
      11 years, 2 months ago

      there's no chance I'd play a Norwich goalkeeper on a weekly basis

    2. amol
      11 years, 2 months ago

      B

    3. pablo discobar
      11 years, 2 months ago

      C (lol) Henderson for Mane and a 5.5 for Bentalab

  23. Call Me Old Fashioned
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Currently got 2M in the bank, but not sure what to do with it. Want to save some of it for Aguero fund

    Schmeichel Butland
    Azpi Kos Cedric Coates STaylor
    Hazard Mane Walcott Ritchie Westwood(other 4.5M)
    Deeney Rooney Benteke

    1 - Save all of the 2M
    2 - STaylor--->4.5M (or I can do Cedric + Taylor ---> 2 x 4.5M instead)
    3 - Mane--->Sterling
    4 - Deeney--->Sakho

    1. Davekitson
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Ritchie to payet could be worth a consideration, then save the other .5, normally wouldn't advise a 4.0 defender but with the others you have I doubt it'd be a huge problem

      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks for the reply. I was considering this but Payet and 5.5M FWD is a .5 more expensive, makes getting Aguero that bit harder.

        I was considering dropping Butland to a 4M GK but think that the balance is OK as it is. Cedirc and 4M may become 2 x 4.5

    2. sleecc
      11 years, 2 months ago

      4

  24. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Guessing most people here have joined LMS?
    If you haven't, BOO!
    When you have a bad week, you can still survive LMS & make it a good one. 🙂

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      As a Finalist/Semi-Finalist (can't remember 😛 ), I concur.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        11 years, 2 months ago

        SF

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          11 years, 2 months ago

          hopefully I'll have another good drun

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            11 years, 2 months ago

            *run

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              11 years, 2 months ago

              You'll need a similar rank. Will be a bit harder early on compared to last season.

              1. NABIL - FPL otai
                11 years, 2 months ago

                Indeed. For that reason I'm going bold early on

    2. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Or could make a bad week worse

    3. tw
      11 years, 2 months ago

      guessing the league code is in your name?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        11 years, 2 months ago

        No, it's the grav.

        1. tw
          11 years, 2 months ago

          isn't that the same as the code that's in your name? 13343-18364

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Oh, shite. I tricked myself. 😳

    4. Obi Wan Elokobi
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Have I cant remember if I did.

      1. Obi Wan Elokobi
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah I have just checked.

  25. LFCfanatic786
    11 years, 2 months ago

    HELPPPP PLEASSSE

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Hit the CAPS lock button then you should be fine.

      1. tw
        11 years, 2 months ago

        😀

      2. sleecc
        11 years, 2 months ago

        lol

      3. LFCfanatic786
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Well this is awkward my message didn't go through

        1. LFCfanatic786
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Sterling or Depay and why? (Keep in mind I have silva also)

  26. tw
    11 years, 2 months ago

    so what will the Southampton backline be this year and who do you reckon is the best pick of the lot?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Cedric, Fonte, Yosh/Caulker/New Def, Bertrand

    2. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      CEDRIC Fonte Caulker Bertrand

      When all are fit

    3. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Cedric, Fonte, Caulker/Van Dijk if he signs, Bertrand

      Cedric

    4. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Fonte, Cedric, yet to be signed, Bertrand

      Fonte/Bertrand probably best but you pay an extra 0.5 and Berty probably won't start for a couple of weeks

      1. tw
        11 years, 2 months ago

        cheers all!

  27. ollie -
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Who and for what reason are your 4.5 midfielder picks? Below are a few I have been mulling over, but have reasons both for and against.

    King: Could easily see myself starting with two other LEI players and don't want to lock myself into 3.

    Wanyama: Same as above.

    Surman: With rate at which Howe is buying players, a large squad, uncertainty and rotation laces his lineup in my eyes.

    Bentaleb: Has the potential to attract cards and from what I understand Dier played well as a 6 today and could eat into his minutes.

    Mutch: If only he had returned to fitness a little earlier and had more pre-season minutes under his belt, I would be far more confident.

    Anya: From what I understand is far from being nailed on. The defensive nature of his position doesn't bother me as fullbacks today carry more attacking threat than most holding midfielders.

    I realise there are many more, and I'm hoping to get your thoughts (Fletcher, Barry to name a few). But my pessimistic views on those above lead me to believe that for one reason or another they could drop to 4.4, despite me aiming to WC in GW4.

    1. pablo discobar
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Do you fancy any of the 5 mils?

      1. ManofKent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I'm tempted by Sinclair and go with 1 4m defender for a while - will be rare that two defenders are injured/rotated

        1. ollie -
          11 years, 2 months ago

          I'm tempted by Targett, he's the only 4.0 that I think might hold his value. Regardless of game time.

      2. ollie -
        11 years, 2 months ago

        I'm weighing up Sinclair as he offers good fixtures and rotation with Sakho. But as an early wild carder I'm trying to shave as much as possible to put into attacking bandwagons.

        Also, Bournemouth at home in the premier league for the first time, against a team who have lost there largest attacking threat, doesn't inspire confidence. Not to mention I see Bournemouth dominating the game with possession.

      3. NABIL - FPL otai
        11 years, 2 months ago

        This.

        Sinclair/Albrighton/Aarons

        1. ollie -
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Albrighton will offer the same concerns as King, moving to 3 LEI means that if Mahrez, Vardy or another fires, I'm restricted.

          Aarons with those fixtures don't inspire me as someone who is worth 0.5 more.

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            11 years, 2 months ago

            fwiw I'm going Sinclair and will rotate him with Sakho early on.

            Yeah you have a point. I'm currently with Huth only, and Mahrez & Vardy are high on my radar. Will be restricted with Marc pick.

            Aarons is at least worth keeping an eye.

    2. Davido989
      11 years, 2 months ago

      westwood

      1. ollie -
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Similar to my views with Surman and Bournemouth.

        Are any of the transfers going to encroach on his time? Will Sherwood move to a 4-4-2 if and when he signs an Adebayor? Whose the midfielder that gives way to allow Sinclair and Bacuna to play as the 7 and 11?

    3. Foot Fighter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I've had a lot of the same thoughts/concerns, and currently on Westwood from Villa. Cheers.

    4. Call Me Old Fashioned
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I will have Westwood or Bentaleb

  28. Trovsmash
    11 years, 2 months ago

    one of my last conundrums

    A. Huth kosci azpi
    or
    B. Cedric Merts azpi

    thankyouu

    1. Moss
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    2. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

    3. sleecc
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A if Huth rotates with your other backup defenders.

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      A

  29. jgjokaj
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone think Man city will play bony and kun on a 2 striker set ?

    1. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Hope not ... Didn't work too well last year

    2. Trovsmash
      11 years, 2 months ago

      it will happen at times during the season, potentially home games or against weaker opposition

  30. Ayew Serious
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Most outrageous captain pick ever?
    Good punt or not?
    Leave urs below

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Nailed it

      1. Dax
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Cattermole, a number of years back where Middlesbrough had a triple gwk. Solid 6 pointer.

        1. Ayew Serious
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Haha

        2. Galfadez
          11 years, 2 months ago

          lol

    2. Davido989
      11 years, 2 months ago

      oscar

      1. Ayew Serious
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Did it come off?

    3. Galfadez
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Not that outrageous but I remember captaining Coleman when he was going through that good patch and he got me about 26 points

      1. Ayew Serious
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Nice

    4. Obi Wan Elokobi
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Captained Steven Fletcher a few seasons back when he scored a brace. Was well happy finished 86th overall that season as well.

      1. Ayew Serious
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Nice!

    5. NABIL - FPL otai
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Fellaini during the Power 5. Scored a brace 😀

    6. Mr Sitter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Jimmy Bullard home to Sunderland in 2010. Needed win to stay up, missed a pen in first half, subbed at half time. Disaster. Played safe ever since!