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8 November 2015 2142 comments
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The Scoreboard presents the Fantasy Premier League information you need from the day’s matches all on one screen, including the current top five BPS (Bonus Point System) standings from each match (potential Bonus Point earners are in bold). Actual Bonus Points will be shown when added – all points are provisional until then.

Gameweek 12

8 Nov 16:00 Arsenal1-1 Spurs
Goals ScoredGibbsKane
AssistsÖzilRose
Yellow CardsLamela
SavesCech (3)Lloris (3)
Bonus PointsÖzil (3)Rose (2), Kane (2)
Top 5 BPSÖzil (34), Debuchy (23), Coquelin (19), Koscielny (17)Vertonghen (19), Rose (26), Kane (26)
8 Nov 16:00 Liverpool1-2 Crystal Palace
Goals ScoredCoutinhoBolasie, Dann
AssistsLallana
Yellow CardsClynePuncheon, Souaré
SavesMignolet (2)Hennessey (3)
Bonus PointsCoutinho (3), LallanaDann (2)
Top 5 BPSCoutinho (34), Lallana (25), Clyne (22)Dann (26), Bolasie (20)
8 Nov 13:30 Aston Villa0-0 Man City
Yellow CardsGuzanOtamendi
SavesGuzan (3)
Bonus PointsAmaviOtamendi (3), Kompany (2), Kolarov
Top 5 BPSAmavi (26), Clark (25), Guzan (24), Hutton (24), Richards (24)Otamendi (28), Kompany (27), Kolarov (26)
7 Nov 17:30 Stoke1-0 Chelsea
Goals ScoredArnautovic
Yellow CardsShawcross, Whelan, JohnsonBabaRahman
SavesButland (4)Begovic
Bonus PointsButland (3), Wollscheid (2), Arnautovic
Top 5 BPSButland (29), Wollscheid (27), Arnautovic (24), Pieters (20)Willian (22)
7 Nov 15:00 Leicester2-1 Watford
Goals ScoredVardy, KantéDeeney
AssistsParedes
Yellow CardsGomes
SavesSchmeichel (3)Gomes (4)
Bonus PointsVardy (3), Kanté (2)Deeney (2)
Top 5 BPSVardy (36), Kanté (32), Fuchs (18), Schmeichel (16), Morgan (16)Deeney (32), Nyom (16), Cathcart (15)
7 Nov 15:00 Man Utd2-0 West Brom
Goals ScoredMata, Lingard
AssistsMartial
Yellow CardsRojoBrunt, Dawson, Rondón
Red CardsMcAuley
SavesMyhill
Bonus PointsLingard (3), Smalling (2), Mata
Top 5 BPSLingard (35), Smalling (30), Mata (27), DeGea (21), Blind (21)Evans (23)
7 Nov 15:00 Norwich1-0 Swansea
Goals ScoredHowson
AssistsMbokani
Yellow CardsO'Neil
SavesFabianski (4)
Bonus PointsHowson (3), Wisdom (2), Bassong
Top 5 BPSHowson (36), Wisdom (28), Bassong (23), Ruddy (21), RyanBennett (20)
7 Nov 15:00 Sunderland0-1 Southampton
Goals ScoredTadic
AssistsBertrand
Yellow CardsJohnsonBertrand, Pellè, Mané
SavesPantilimon (3)Stekelenburg (3)
Bonus PointsYoshida (3), Fonte (2), vanDijk (2)
Top 5 BPSYoshida (34), Fonte (31), vanDijk (31), Bertrand (28), Stekelenburg (26), Tadic (25)
7 Nov 15:00 West Ham1-1 Everton
Goals ScoredLanziniLukaku
AssistsDeulofeu
Yellow CardsZárateMcCarthy, FunesMori
SavesAdrián (3)Howard (4)
Bonus PointsLanzini (3), TomkinsLukaku (2)
Top 5 BPSLanzini (34), Tomkins (24), Noble (21)Stones (21), Lukaku (26), Deulofeu (23)
7 Nov 12:45 Bournemouth0-1 Newcastle
Goals ScoredAyoze
AssistsWijnaldum
Yellow CardsSmith, ArterTiote, Janmaat
SavesElliot (5)
Bonus PointsElliot (3), Ayoze (2), Dummett
Top 5 BPSDaniels (21)Elliot (35), Ayoze (30), Dummett (27), Janmaat (25), Mbemba (25), Coloccini (21)

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Jay10
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Andy Goddard is from these parts right?

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nah. Hes from parts unknown just like The Undertaker

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Rarely posts these days.
      His twitter is below.

      1. Jay10
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Oh,ok. Thanks.

  2. bangers and M*A*S*H
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    My plan is/was to get DDG and Lukaku in for Howard and Pelle this gameweek for free.

    If I do it I have to do it tonight because of price changes.

    Is it worth it or too much of a gamble since it's 2 weeks until deadline?

  3. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I transferred out Richards this week

    He gets a CS

    Fantastic

    1. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Garde is the new Pulis 😉

    2. Akeem
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Did the same thing...for Ward (who was benched)

  4. ZTF
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Payet - Ozil + Bony - Lukaku good?

    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Great. Never understood why people were bringing in Bony when Lukaku had tremendous fixtures

    2. hannesdela
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Both are good moves for sure.

  5. Zasa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Better movie?
    A) Steve Jobs
    B) Sicario
    C) Bridge of Spies
    D) Spectre
    E) Crimson Peak

    1. ZTF
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      D

    2. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      IMO B) but fyi ihavent seen any of them

    3. bodgejob
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      BBBBBBBBBB

    4. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      C
      B
      E
      A
      D

    5. Slam
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      B&D

    6. Zasa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Did not know Sicario was so well rated 😯 Cheers, lads.

  6. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    thank feck for international break

    Hopefully Payet can recover and I need to identify my Bony replacement if it's not Kun

    Lucky I have 2 frees really

    1. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      thank feck for international break, thats a unique statement on here

  7. blind faith
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Mane - Pelle
    to
    Aguero - Lanzini

    Yes or No

    1. ZTF
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That makes no sense??

      1. blind faith
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Why not?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Wrong order

      2. blind faith
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Jeez!

        Pelle - Mane
        To
        Aguero - Lanzini

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I'd wait a week.

  8. Smarty Pants
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Did the Vardy episode actually happen or is it fake? can't find it being mentioned in any reliable source

      1. Smarty Pants
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        it takes 1 minute to create such a picture in photoshop

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I watched it...

            1. Numb
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Funny this Joe website is the only source. And it's headline is about fantasy football managers!

            2. Smarty Pants
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Fantasy football trolling has reached another level, people create websites to spread fake fantasy football news. Sigh.

          1. Smarty Pants
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Ok, it's not fake, just saw it on the replay.
            What's wrong with his fingers though, seriously?

      2. Smarty Pants
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        and it's actually an example of very bad photoshop skills, his fingers have different color 😀

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Mate its real... :/

        2. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          So Photoshop you say. Thanks

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Fake Like the moon landing

    2. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That's because he's now England's Jamie Vardy. The FA have probably told the press / media not to mention it.

  9. Puyol Pants Up
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Just curious on your guys thoughts on this. Would you downgrade your midfielder to a 4.5 (and bench them every week) or to a 5.5/6.0 (meaning a benching headache every week) to fund for Aguero?

    1. Paulie Walnuts
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Downgrade to dele alli 4.9

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Why though? He offers little attacking threat and isn't 100% nailed?

        1. Paulie Walnuts
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Mostly because I am an idiot... But he is a cheap mid who gets points

    2. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      1st option probably, had Wanyama and Aguero for weeks

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, but if you could upgrade Wanyama to a 5.5 or something, would you do it?

        1. Rhinos
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          no, i could have then and didnt

    3. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I think Anya at 4.4 is the best dirt cheap midfielder..

    4. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'm probably downgrading Payet to Deluofeu but it depends, i don't feel ok selling Payet if he's fit and in good form.

    5. Individual
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hey mate - I always play with 2 enablers, 1 3.9 defender that can rot on the bench (I call it the "McShane") and 1 sub 5.0 midfielder - allows me to have top quality going forward in the 7, plus no benching headaches. I always play 3-4-3, with 2 premium defenders and 2 okay defenders, one of which is benched. So I have 2 playing subs, plus 1 enabler.

      Recently it's been a bit different and I've had a little bit in the bank because of Aguero, but the approach has given me the flex to upgrade my defence yet I still have enough to get Kun back in 3 transfers.

      Hope that helps - I see a lot of people here with benching travesties on here (see Mahrezgate) so I'm always glad I don't have that problem 🙂

  10. KOLASINA(C)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Cech-Myhill
    Bellerin, VVD, Clyne, Francis, Nyom
    Payet, Sanchez, Mane, KDB, Mahrez
    Vardy, Ighalo, Pelle

    Pick two players, which you would ditch. (let's say that Payet will be fine after IB)

    1. Lord of Ings
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Francis and Sanchez I guess.

    2. Paulie Walnuts
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      KDB > ozil
      Pelle > kane

  11. Lord of Ings
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Hennessey and:-
    1)Gomes
    OR
    2)Stekelenburg

  12. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can the autosubs happen already. I wan't Butland and Francis to come into my team..

    1. SneakyPete
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Done.

    2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      This is a cognitive problem. Have faith that things will unfold as they should. With baps it makes sense, as they might change, but the autosubs will happen. Take deep breaths.

  13. Numb
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Top tip - do not enter the Transfers Page between now and after all the internationals have finished.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I will, multiple times just to play around

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        That's how it starts...

        "Ooh I can exactly afford X or Y move but I can't if that price changes....."

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I am a very composed player, I will not make a transfer before all internationals end and my players are confirmed as fit

          1. Numb
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Fair enough

    2. Paulie Walnuts
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Ozil is not playing internationals so no risk..

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        And if some of your remaining mids then get injured....?

        1. Paulie Walnuts
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Then I will cry

    3. Rusty Nail
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lukaku and ozil transfers in atm is like a runaway train 7.7 and 6.5 percent progress per hour Payet on the other hand is going the other way at 5 percent. Looks like everybody is doing payet to ozil right now

      1. Swanremainsthesame
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I am hoping that Ozil gets a knock in training next week, & Payet scores a hatty in GW12 .
        Sorry Ozil nothing personal, just get p'd off with knee jerkers jumping the prices around.

  14. Dutchboy
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Ryan Bennett nailed on for Norwich?

    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      not at all

  15. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Costa is going to face a lengthy ban?

    1. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      dont think so

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        After the assault, FA won't stand for that.

        1. Rhinos
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          ref dealt with it didnt he? If so their hands are tied

          1. Dynamic Duos
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Don't actually know.

  16. BucketHead
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Payet to ozil and pelle to lukaku for a hit..yes??

    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah sure. Pelle is at home, but to a tight Stoke defense as of late

  17. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Sakho - Knee injury
    Ings - Knee injury
    Sturridge - Knee injury
    Gomez - Knee injury

    1. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      They kneed a new doctor

  18. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    WHM, CHE, wba, NEW

    Kane could be able

    given I own Lukaku I can't see many better short term options bar possibly Tekkers

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Another pun?

    2. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Good shout! Belle > Lukaku on the cards for me. Going to delay Kun's arrival for a bit.

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        It's tough but I think I'd want Kun by GW16, so I have 2 weeks to look at it and decided

        Going Bony over Kane on wc was a killer

    3. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Kane Vardy Lukaku is the form.forward line.

      1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I like this 🙂

      2. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        This was mine this week.paid of nicely

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      How very dare you!!! 😀

    5. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Absolutely. Kane is sweet, when you boil it right down.

      1. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Would u take a -4 to get him in for next week?

        1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Not sure I would. I was just making a pun, but seriously I think he is a good choice, and I'm glad I have him. But a hit would only be worth it if there are other problems you solve by doing it.

          1. The 12th Man
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            I'll be holding for now and discussing any transfers on our forum in the week.
            Wish I had your defence well done.

            1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Thanks man. I am so obsessed with my Bony (c) fail I need to remember that I brought in DDG to complete a defensive full house.

  19. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Andy around?

  20. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    25 pts scored today, where will take to, from 43k?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Up a bit.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        😉

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Up, Sir, up, I hope. 🙂

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Somewhere below me 😉

  21. Fishy
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Who wil rise or fall 0.2 during int brk?

    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Payet and Ozil to fall and rise respectively. Kane probably rises. Lukaku, Vardy. Basically everyone who did well this week. Van Dijk. You can watch the market on fantasyfootballfix

  22. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    What's everyone's plan to get Aguero? Downgrade Sanchez when he's fully fit?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Haven't got one yet.

    2. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      General idea would be Kolarov, Manè, Payet, Kane out Rose, Ozil, Deulofeu, Kun in but with Kane doing so well now i really don't want to rush Kun back in. Priorities are selling Manè and Kolarov for Ozil and Rose if they don't get injured during the break.

    3. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Don't get him in yet. 😉

  23. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Hands up if you have two free transfers! 😎

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      o/

      no idea what striker to pick up though

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      o/

    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      o/

    4. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yep.so useful given internationals, injuries and kuns return

  24. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Let's be honest, doing any transfers now is pointless even for price risers, inevitably going to be at least one injury that will have a knock on effect on transfers

    1. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      its not pointless just a gamble

    2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Agree generally, but Ozil is not (I think) playing during the break.

      1. Volley127
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        This.

        And also agree with gamble. Sometimes that 0.1 comes in handy later on in the season. Risk vs Reward

      2. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        why not? Just because they have qualified?

  25. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Have 2ft and no idea what to do, better just wait at least a week, right?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hibernate. We will wake you when it's time ... 😉

    2. KOLASINA(C)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I would wait 2 weeks personally.

  26. Dugout
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Pelle -> Kane is beginning to tempt me.

    It would price me out of Aguero, but I'm looking at Vardy, Kane, Lukaku + 4m and I wonder if I'll miss the best striker in the league?

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That's the best strike force there

      1. Dugout
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        You think so? I reckon Vardy, Kane, Aguero will be, but it's pricey. I brought Ozil in for Aguero, and he's doing so well, that Aguero might be too much - can't believe I'm saying that, but Kane + Ozil will surely do better than Aguero + 4.5

  27. blind faith
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Right because Torres and Alex Neil's... Are too awkward to see a two for two transfer unless it's clearly displayed this is a shameless repost!

    Mane & Pelle
    To
    Lanzini & Aguero

    Worth it???

  28. hannesdela
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    A) Özil + Mané + Lukaku
    B) Özil + Lanzini/Albrighton + Aguero

    B will cost a 4 point hit.

    1. blind faith
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      B... I've had it with Mane

      1. hannesdela
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Me too, but I'm not sure Aguero and Lanzini will outscore Lukaku and Mané which is needed when taking a 4 point hit..

        1. blind faith
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          In the long run though? Surely Aguero can outscore anyone.

          1. hannesdela
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            True that, but Lukaku's form might make him as good as Aguero in the coming weeks who's still uncertain now. So maybe it's better to wait on Aguero hitting form and Lukaku losing it to bring him in?

  29. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Here's a stat for you. Pelle had only 1 SoT in the last 4 GW's and the fixtures were splendid.. I think I am selling

    1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Me too. Who're you thinking of getting?

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      v Stoke he'll score

    3. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Isn't it just much easier to change your handle to: The Pelle One?

  30. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Is West Ham without Payet make Kane a more attractive option?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No. West Ham without Noble, Kouyaté and Song make Kane a more attractive option.

      1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ooh, hadn't focused on that . . .

    2. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      West Ham doesn't have the best defense, Kane right now can score pretty much against anybody.