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22 November 2015 2517 comments
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The Scoreboard presents the Fantasy Premier League information you need from the day’s matches all on one screen, including the current top five BPS (Bonus Point System) standings from each match (potential Bonus Point earners are in bold). Actual Bonus Points will be shown when added – all points are provisional until then.

Gameweek 13

22 Nov 16:00 Spurs 4-1 West Ham
Goals Scored Kane (2), Walker, Alderweireld Lanzini
Assists Eriksen (2), Alli, Son Jelavic
Yellow Cards Walker, Alli Noble, Sakho
Saves Lloris (3) Adrián (8)
Bonus Points Kane (3), Eriksen (2), Alderweireld
Top 5 BPS Kane (53), Eriksen (34), Alderweireld (31), Dembélé (28) Reid (29), Lanzini (29)
21 Nov 17:30 Man City 1-4 Liverpool
Goals Scored Agüero Coutinho, Skrtel, Firmino
Own Goals Mangala
Assists Kolarov Firmino (2), Coutinho, Benteke
Yellow Cards Lucas, Can, Clyne
Saves Hart (6) Mignolet (2)
Bonus Points Coutinho (3), Firmino (2), Skrtel
Top 5 BPS Agüero (26), Hart (22) Coutinho (52), Firmino (47), Skrtel (32)
21 Nov 15:00 Chelsea 1-0 Norwich
Goals Scored Costa
Assists Fábregas
Yellow Cards Willian Olsson, Bassong, O'Neil, Mulumbu
Saves Begovic (2) Ruddy (6)
Bonus Points Fábregas (3), Ivanovic (2), Terry
Top 5 BPS Fábregas (29), Ivanovic (28), Terry (26), Matic (25), Zouma (24)
21 Nov 15:00 Everton 4-0 Aston Villa
Goals Scored Barkley (2), Lukaku (2)
Assists Coleman, Barkley, Koné
Saves Howard (3) Guzan (5)
Bonus Points Barkley (3), Lukaku (2), Coleman
Top 5 BPS Barkley (64), Lukaku (55), Coleman (37), Stones (34), FunesMori (34), Howard (28)
21 Nov 15:00 Newcastle 0-3 Leicester
Goals Scored Ulloa, Vardy, Okazaki
Assists Mahrez, Ulloa, Simpson
Yellow Cards Dummett, Anita, Sissoko, Ayoze Huth
Saves Elliot (4)
Bonus Points Mahrez (3), Ulloa (2), Vardy, Simpson
Top 5 BPS Mahrez (41), Ulloa (36), Vardy (32), Simpson (32), Fuchs (29), Kanté (29), Okazaki (26)
21 Nov 15:00 Southampton 0-1 Stoke
Goals Scored Bojan
Assists Pieters
Yellow Cards Ward-Prowse, Pellè
Saves Stekelenburg (2) Butland
Bonus Points Pieters (3), Bojan (2), Johnson
Top 5 BPS Pieters (42), Bojan (41), Johnson (29), Shawcross (27), Wollscheid (25)
21 Nov 15:00 Swansea 2-2 Bournemouth
Goals Scored Shelvey, Ayew King, Gosling
Assists Shelvey, Ayew Ritchie, Stanislas
Yellow Cards Shelvey, Bartley, Sigurdsson Ritchie, Stanislas
Saves Fabianski (2) Federici (2)
Bonus Points Ayew (3), Shelvey (2) Gosling
Top 5 BPS Ayew (41), Shelvey (36), Williams (26) Gosling (32), Stanislas (23)
21 Nov 15:00 West Brom 2-1 Arsenal
Goals Scored Morrison Giroud
Own Goals Arteta
Assists Brunt, McClean Özil
Yellow Cards Morrison, Brunt, Myhill Giroud, Bellerín
Saves Myhill (2)
Bonus Points Morrison Özil (3), Giroud (2)
Top 5 BPS McClean (20), Morrison (21) Özil (30), Giroud (22), Sánchez (20), Koscielny (18)
21 Nov 12:45 Watford 1-2 Man Utd
Goals Scored Deeney Depay
Own Goals Deeney
Assists Ighalo Herrera, Schweinsteiger
Yellow Cards Watson Young, Lingard
Saves Gomes (5) DeGea (4)
Bonus Points Deeney (2) Jones (3), Depay (2)
Top 5 BPS Deeney (24), Gomes (18), Anya (18), Ighalo (17), Britos (17) Jones (27), Depay (24), Blind (18), DeGea (17), Schweinsteiger (17), Smalling (16), Herrera (16)

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Average today increased by 6.3 overall, and by 6.6 in the top 10k.

    If you scored more than that from today's game only you're in for a green arrow.

    1. super zlatan
      10 years, 11 months ago

      26 points today for me

      1. Jazz!
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Same 🙂

      2. BbBb
        10 years, 11 months ago

        yup, me too

    2. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Finally!

    3. Morbius
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Kane (C), Alderwei... and Lanzini for me.

      I think that's 43.

    4. The Light Knight
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Nice, 34 today after 27 yesterday

  2. super zlatan
    10 years, 11 months ago

    About to pull the trigger on

    Pelle > lukaku

    To give me a strikeforce of lukaku. Kane. Vardy

    Thoughts?

    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Sound move.

      1. super zlatan
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers rod

        1. Christina.
          10 years, 11 months ago

          kun? waiting?

          1. super zlatan
            10 years, 11 months ago

            See below. Holding fire on Kun for now.

    2. Christina.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      nice

      wish i did a -4 for kane this week

      1. super zlatan
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers slut.

        Means no aguero for a few weeks. But I'm willing to take the risk I think

        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Its Kane vs. Kun for 3 of us then..

    3. HurriKane
      10 years, 11 months ago

      \Im thinking about doing Pelle --> Kane (have lukaku and vardy)

    4. Gazpilicueta
      10 years, 11 months ago

      easy good move, i did the same move last night,

    5. BbBb
      10 years, 11 months ago

      yes - I have Kane, Ighalo and Lukaku

  3. Dynamic Duos
    10 years, 11 months ago

    What's the avg gone up by today?

    50 pts with Cabaye aint so bad, been as my gwk has be Abysmal.

  4. Jazz!
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Which 2 would you play from:

    A) Rose (CHE)

    B) Dann (NEW)

    C) Moreno (SWA)

    D) Evans (whu)

    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Moreno and Dann

      1. Jazz!
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Would you play A or D over Ayew (liv), Rod?

        1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I'd consider playing Rose over Ayew.

          1. Jazz!
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Exactly what I'm considering. Thanks!

  5. Gideons Rolling Another One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Ighalo / Kane / Vardy

    Anyone with this front three considering Ighalo to Lukaku?

    I know Ighalo's next three fixtures are very good, but then so are Lukaku's, plus he has Bournemouth next and I reckon that has hat-trick written all over it!

    Hold tight or go for it?

    1. Ha.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I'd make the transfer

    2. Gazpilicueta
      10 years, 11 months ago

      personally i think ighalo is amazing, but if i have ighalo, i want kun. at the moment i am on kane lukaku instead.

      1. Gideons Rolling Another One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        He's great value there's no doubt about that. Is he going to out score Lukaku's or match him. Not sure.

        Will I captain Ighalo. Probably not. Will I captain Lukaku against Bouremouth yep.

  6. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Now that things have settled, i ask you, would you make another move instead? I'm set on Mane -> Firmino

    Butland McCarthy
    Bellerin Rojo Alderwield Moreno Francis
    KDB Sanchez Mane Deulofeu Westwood
    Aguero Lukaku Vardy

    What would you do? 1FT 0.8M

    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I'm assuming you can't afford Ozil? If not, then looks sound.

    2. super zlatan
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Can you afford ozil?

      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        @both. Nope. Another option is to downgrade Mane to Bolasie and do Vardy to Kane the week after.

        1. super zlatan
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Mane > bolasie could be a nice enabler for Kane

          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Firmino is a fancy little punt though don't ya think

            1. super zlatan
              10 years, 11 months ago

              I think firmino is a bit punty. Not nailed enough for me. He is a "wait and see" option

              1. Lateriser 12
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                10 years, 11 months ago

                I do love punting Zlat. Going for flair for a bit. Need a jump.

                1. super zlatan
                  10 years, 11 months ago

                  I know you do like flair options. But you are ticking along nicely. No need for anything crazy just yet.

    3. Chris_H
      10 years, 11 months ago

      The only thing is Coutinho is probably more nailed. Klopp still hasn't had the opportunity to choose from Sturridge, Benteke and Firmino - could be that rotation risk.

      Mane def the one to shift though

    4. Rolls-Royce
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Got Kane feels good. Get him son.

  7. Runaway
    10 years, 11 months ago

    I am having terrible gw, yesterday I already did bony + mane -> kun + lingard

    Would you do KDB + Pelle -> Coutinho + Kane for -8 ??

    1. Sergeant Garcia
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Only Pelle > Kane

      1. Runaway
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Not enough money to do it alone 🙁

        1. Sergeant Garcia
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Then you should probably do it 🙂

  8. Sergeant Garcia
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Not having Kane is costing me week after week. But with Ighalo / Vardy / Lukaku so hard to take someone out. Just not enough to do Ighalo > Kane 🙁

    1. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I'm losing Vardy for Kane. Both in great form but one of them has better fixtures, plays for a better team and has been outstanding in at least one other season.

      1. Sergeant Garcia
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Yes, I'm tempted by this! And still have Mahrez...

    2. Chris_H
      10 years, 11 months ago

      If the rest of your strikers are matching or close to his output he's not essential, you still got 12, 7, 5 this week 🙂

      1. Sergeant Garcia
        10 years, 11 months ago

        He's not essential indeed, but in my ML there are a few who captain him, and in the H2H I always lose due to his goals 🙁 But I'm happy nontheless 🙂

  9. Gazpilicueta
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Kane saved my gameweek, anyone else in the same boat?!

    1. Ha.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think it's the same for all his owners.

    2. ThreeLeftFeet
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Yep, saved mine. I'd dropped 20k yesterday. Only brought him in for Pelle this Friday; moved my captaincy from Mahrez to Kane at the last minute Saturday morning. Huge sigh of relief after the final whistle there.

      1. super zlatan
        10 years, 11 months ago

        He saved my bacon.

        Was on 38 points before today. Kane(c) was glorious.

        1. Gazpilicueta
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I was on 32! thank you Harry!

    3. Sjaugen
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Kane ruined mine

      1. Gazpilicueta
        10 years, 11 months ago

        how so?

        1. Sjaugen
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Decided to give Pelle one last game

      2. Christina.
        10 years, 11 months ago

        mine as well. missed his points and rivals got out of jail

    4. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      no, my boat's going in the other direction 🙁

    5. Jøssy ⭐
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Ruined mine! 🙁

  10. proczell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Sanchez and Pelle -> Ozil and Kane (-4)
    Any reason not to hit the trigger?

    1. Ha.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Sanchez 20 points next week 😛

      1. proczell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Doesnt matter if Ozil gets 10 and Kane 25 😉

        1. Ha.
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Have all three then 😀

          1. proczell
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Haha, unlimited funds would be nice

    2. Gazpilicueta
      10 years, 11 months ago

      if you did that 3 days ago, you would love life. what will next week hold.....no one knows....

      1. proczell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, I know. Transfered in Kun this weekend...

    3. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Sanchez could do well in coming weeks. Other than that though it makes sense.

    4. Andy1
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Sanchez hat trick next week

      1. proczell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Cant see that tbh..

        1. Gazpilicueta
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Could happen! dont forget the goals imminent table!

    5. ThreeLeftFeet
      10 years, 11 months ago

      It's a perfectly good move, and it'll probably pay off over the next three weeks. But I'm holding Sanchez (just not captaining for a while). He was exhausted after two Chile games, this weekend was not a good guide to future returns. When Walcott comes back, Sanchez will start getting mega-points again. But yes, right now, good transfers. (I did Pelle Kane on Friday.)

      1. proczell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Could do KDB->Silva.. so many possibilites

      2. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Walcott could be back only after their good fixtures

  11. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Thinking of spending 2fts on Mane + Vardy > Surman + Kane + Aguero cash for later.

    Makes sense?

    1. Ha.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Yes

    2. proczell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      It does

  12. Greenbackbøøg…
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Of all players how did Dembele get in the baps??

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 11 months ago

      He didn't. Shouldn't be in bold.

      1. Greenbackbøøg…
        10 years, 11 months ago

        So who did get the final baps?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          10 years, 11 months ago

          The other 3 in bold. Still being finalised.

          1. Greenbackbøøg…
            10 years, 11 months ago

            cheers

        2. Gazpilicueta
          10 years, 11 months ago

          kane lanzini erikson

  13. SANTACLAUS
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Oh mannnn i really think i made the mistake of doing kane>aguero now 🙁

  14. Jeremiah
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on KDB & Pelle > Firmino & Kun?

    Worth a hit?

    1. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      yes, i think it is. although I'm bringing in ozil and kane.

  15. Niemi
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Front 8 on my wildcard:

    Silva - Özil - Coutinho - Mahrez (Stanislas)
    Aguero - Kane - Lukaku

    Defence something like this:

    Gomes/Butland - 4.0 gk
    Coleman - Bellerin - Moreno - Wollscheid - Simpson

    1. Ha.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I will have the same next week should Sanchez not perform

  16. The Farke Side Gallery
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Not only did I not (c) Kane, I don't even own him 🙂

    Hate being all out on a Saturday with big hitters still to play.

    Green turns to red.

    1. Jeremiah
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Same position here!

  17. meerlight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    I now have 24 hours of anguish over whether ward plays. I'm in 2 ffs h2hs and both are down to ward vs bolasie.

    i'm 1 and 3 pts ahead, so desperately need some ward points to hang in.

    what chance have I got, do you reckon?

    1. Jeremiah
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Ih he plays you've a good chance I reckon.

      1. meerlight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Ih being the operative word in that sentence!

    2. Demí
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think he'll start, but unfortunately can see Sunderland scoring. Good luck Meerlight

      1. meerlight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 11 months ago

        cheers, demi. just so long as bolassie has a quiet game.

  18. super zlatan
    10 years, 11 months ago

    @LR

    Who are Jamaica doing so far mate?

    1. Christina.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Missus Epic fail

    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Only Ward goal can save us.

  19. Steve McCroskey
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Absolutely awful gameweek, 42 with Hennessey to play. Should I do:

    A. Pelle > Lukaku
    B. Pelle > Kane
    C. Pelle > Kun and KDB > Delefeou/Lanzini (-4)

    1. The Light Knight
      10 years, 11 months ago

      A

    2. ThreeLeftFeet
      10 years, 11 months ago

      They are all improvements. Hard to call, but I'd go for A.

    3. super zlatan
      10 years, 11 months ago

      A or B. Flip a coin

    4. Gazpilicueta
      10 years, 11 months ago

      who do you have upfront at the moment?

      1. Steve McCroskey
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Vardy, Ighalo, Pelle

    5. ThreeLeftFeet
      10 years, 11 months ago

      (With B a VERY close second, and C a fairly close third...)

  20. Niemi
    10 years, 11 months ago

    WC team

    Gomes/Butland - Hennessey/Elliot
    Coleman - Bellerin - Moreno - Wollscheid - Simpson
    Silva - Özil - Coutinho - Mahrez - Stanislas
    Aguero - Kane - Lukaku

    Yay or nay? 0.2 short at the moment, but I am hoping for a Lanzini and Barkley double rise (got the 0.1 rise last night on both).

  21. Jøssy ⭐
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Boys... I've had another poor week, I believe primarily cos I'm clinging to some big hitters who aren;t delivering.

    I've already bought Kun, but I'm not tempted to take a significant hit to get Kane and Firminio in. What do we think of this...

    Current Line-Up:
    Butland (Myhill)
    Kolarov - Bellerin - van Dijk (Moreno - Francis)
    Sanchez - KdB - Özil - Mahrez - Deulofeu
    Pellè - Vardy (Ighalo)

    And I'm tempted to do:

    Sanchez Ighalo Delofeu > Firminio Kane King

    Gonna cost me 12, but I feel far more confident that Kane and Firming are going to churn points out in the coming weeks.

    Thoughts??

    1. Davido989
      10 years, 11 months ago

      KDB needs to go in my opinion.

      1. Jøssy ⭐
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Even with Aguero returning? I have heard his stats have completely fallen away.

        If I lost him instead of Sanchez, what do you think about my surgery? Short term hit for real form players??

        1. Davido989
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I think KDB is more of a luxury as opposed to Sanchez being more reliable if you like.

          I'm not convinced on getting rid of Deulofeu

          1. Jøssy ⭐
            10 years, 11 months ago

            He was only an enabler. The other thought I had was the Kolarov downgrade, which is almost inevitable in the near future.

            1. Davido989
              10 years, 11 months ago

              I'd prefer downgrading Kolarov.

              1. Jøssy ⭐
                10 years, 11 months ago

                I think I'm gonna look more closely at that... I think I'm doing this cos I think Kane's gonna hurt me.

    2. Jøssy ⭐
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Oooopa... Pelle is actually Aguero now. This wold leave me with a team like this:

      Butland (Myhill)
      Kolarov - Bellerin - van Dijk (Moreno - Francis)
      Firminio - KdB - Özil - Mahrez (King)
      Aguerri - Kane - Vardy

    3. Every Dog Has Its Day
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Nah keep those players, they are good but Pelle and KDB need to make way for Kane Firmino/Coutinho.

      1. Jøssy ⭐
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Peele already gone for Aguero. I pasted an old team line-up before my Kun signing this week.

        So...

        KDB Ighalo Delofeu > Kane Firmino King?

    4. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Don't do it.

    5. Greenbackbøøg…
      10 years, 11 months ago

      We have the exact same front 8 this week, woah

  22. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Bench one

    Rojo, Moreno, Alderwield, Moreno

    Between Rojo and Toby isn't it?

    1. Davido989
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Jheez give me 1 moreno

      1. Ha.
        10 years, 11 months ago

        There's only one Moreno

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Moreno.

    3. Chris_H
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Toby.

      1. super zlatan
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Moreno has to play.
        As does rojo.

        I would bench toby

  23. Chris_H
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Baps updated? 2 for Eriksen also? Lovely.

  24. Trendsetters
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Have Kane vardy and lukaku up top....
    Do I drop one for Kun or slick.. Surely I can't get rid of any
    Any advice??

    1. ThreeLeftFeet
      10 years, 11 months ago

      It is the GREAT QUESTION OF OUR TIMES. For what it's worth (probably not much) I have Kane / Vardy / Lukaku, and I'm sticking, for now. They all outscored Aguero this week. And Aguero has hard Champion's League games, is fragile, back from injury, will be protected/rested... Worth avoiding for now, in my opinion. But yeah, it feels dangerous, I know...

  25. LVGs Army
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Will Wollsheid's game time be affected by muniesa's return?

    1. Hypnos
      10 years, 11 months ago

      no.

  26. Christina.
    10 years, 11 months ago

    ok, done trsfr

    see you on the flip side

    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Same. Got some Kane?

    2. super zlatan
      10 years, 11 months ago

      what did you do?

      1. Christina.
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Cane

  27. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Repost

    Bench one

    Rojo, Moreno, Alderwield, Bellerin

    Between Rojo and Toby isn't it?

    1. Ha.
      10 years, 11 months ago

      There's only one Moreno (but bench him)

      1. Ha.
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Scrap that, Swansea have no chance

  28. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 11 months ago

    The decision between Coutinho or Firmino is so hard. Firmino looks more explosive and likely to be a better at getting for points but may be dropped for Sturridge and or Benteke.

    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Why would he be dropped after that performance?

  29. Drop Dead Tsimikas
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Lanzini's goal hurt, as it lost me at least five, probably six points with Toby. Still, 58 that will become 64 once Kane's BAPS post, is nice after finishing yesterday on 30. Nobody going tomorrow, so I'll probably end up around where I started this week, in the 800-900K range.

  30. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    10 years, 11 months ago

    I think Kane is more important than vardy.

    Just need to save a lot of cash to get him in

    1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Or forego Kun, like I'm doing for the time being.