Paul
Our series of members articles that evaluate the form of each team over 2015/16 before assessing their chief protagonists continues with Chelsea.
Having clinched the Premier League crown in 2014/15, the Stamford Bridge outfit suffered a disastrous title defence and, after losing nine of their first 16 matches, replaced Jose Mourinho with Guus Hiddink in December. The Dutchman helped steady the ship and ultimately guided the Blues into tenth spot, some 31 points behind champions Leicester.
FPL open yet?
"Imminent"
Is it open yet?
Cmon I wanna watch Fedex
Does anyone posted that mandatory "Pogba worth 100M" post in this thread yet?
Pogba worth 100M?
Someone link to this guy that Balders post, now.
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£100m Pogba is worth?
Just done my FPL player values for each position.
So bored!
Can I have a peek?
Why not!
5- 4.5
5.5 - 5 - 5 - 4.5 - 4.5
11- 8.5 - 7 - 6 - 4.5
13 - 10 - 6
I did this last season before the game launched and it worked out well.
Does a defensive rotation actually work in this game?
That 11 for De Bruyne or Sanchez?
Sanchez
It won't have much rotation but I like having 15 starters
Go outside maybe?
I am outside, modern technology is wonderful 🙂
Bloody love the way Paul writes an article !
There is an article in this site? 😮
Is the best way to gain rank at this stage of the Euro's to load up on Portugal defenders ? I expect the majority will have 8 French players .
There is no recovering from your rank pal.
You mean I am not going to win 😯 .
Nope. Nil. Zilch.
Is Bonucci worth 45m??
If Ibe is worth £15m,
If Tomkins is worth £10m,
If Brady is worth £20m,
If Stones is worth £50m
then Bonucci is worth £45m
Overrated.
Mangala v2.
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Maybe
Best defender in the world right now.
Is Balotelli worth a pack of Jelly Tots and an old boot?
Only Balders knows
What size pack?
A share pack but it's already been opened.
No.
Balders answers the "is Pogba worth £100m?" question perfectly
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/07/07/dugout-discussion-france-vs-germany/?hc_page=12#hc_comment_13527666
Man, those Chelsea players in that picture so out of shape you can literally see a man boobs on them.
Mikel you perky basterds.
Hazard is even looking at his belly! 😀
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Can't wait to see Chelsea's players price. Who do you reckon gonna be undervalued?
Mikel
Hmmm...tough question but Batshuayi might be undervalued (price should be like Martial's last season which would be a bargain imo). Oscar is also one to watch out for as he has the potential to score and assist lots if he becomes more consistent.
Willian & Fabregas will be overpriced IMO , so avoid.
Hazard likely to be undervalued too, no? 🙂
Hazard surely will be less than last year, but after his heroics in the Euros I fear he'll be only slightly reduced. Around 10.5~11m
I think this 🙁
Hope not. They can't really go and value him by the euros, can they? By that standard, Zlatan will come in at 7.0.
FPL Towers work in mysterious ways, but surely they won't be offering up a prize the size of Hazard for a pretty penny? The game will be broken before it starts if he goes on to get a great season.
You're probably right. Those "mysterious ways" just equal arbitrary which for me feels illegitimate. It is well known that the major tournament form and the league season form don't really correlate.
They don't live under a rock. Hazard was brilliant since the end of last season and they know it. I would price him at 10.0/10.5m myself and they probably will too.
Wasn't Martial was like 9.0 last season?
Always like Oscar but never have guts to owned him in FPL. You reckon he gonna flourish in Conte's formation?
Martial was 8.0
He was 8.5 iirc. Might have been 9.0 but still that's a bargain for a striker playing for the best team in the league.. 😉
Yep , I do. I hope Conte likes him more than Mou did...
8.0 in the beginning, wasn't he? 8.5 after 2 weeks.
Oh yeah , now I remember...you are right. He was 8.5m before I realized tbh!
And he's the fittest of them! 😆 Cesc looks like a 50-year-old Greek grandma in a Monty Python comedy.
Hazard looks the fittest but in actual games , he was the worst...
I think he was overcriticized in fact, and then got injured. He was never as bad as it was said. Cesc was easily the worst.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/watch-cesc-fabregass-individual-highlights-from-woeful-display-for-chelsea-against-tottenham-a6754646.html
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He was the worst for me personally as he is my favourite player and it was sad to see him play as he was...
Yeah , Fabregas was exceptional against Spurs...wasn't he just? 🙁
Don't be so harsh on your loved ones. 😉
That Cesc performance had "get the f*** outta here Mou!" written all over it, which is surprising since Mou kinda saved Cesc's career.
IMO , Cesc had no problems with Mourinho and his only problem was that he returned with too much of himself from pre-season...
Probably. Don't think he had problems with Mou, for real, but that performance was just so outrageously bad, and exactly on areas where we know he's very good, that it looked like he was bad intentionally.
He was trying to be aggressive in his passing and did not have the fitness to execute a fast aggressive pass.
Honestly, it just looks like he was trying to be absolutely garbage, and succeeded in it. And that was in November, wasn't it? December even? Not like the first match of the season, anyway. But you're right, he was rubbish also in matches before it.
*Disclaimer: I don't think he was intentionally playing badly, but I don't think fitness issues suffice to explain him being that awful. Like the free kick he just put off the border. Wtf was that? At some point, early on, he must just have got frustrated or something.
You expected loyalty from Cesc!?
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Bitter?
Like a spoon of cocoa. 😎
Great simile! 🙂
this!
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That was gold!
The 'Is whoever worth whatever' argument is a nonsense.
Football clubs are just businesses, and they aren't losing money paying transfer fees, or wages to any players, clubs like Man Utd and Real Madrid make enough money selling pencil cases, and bed sheets to cover their out going costs.
Is Pogba worth £100m though?
Well, yes, of course
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"Drop a deuce with Stevie Bruce"
I hope they really had this slogan! 😀
I rather have constipation than dropping a deuce with him.
Resources are finite though, so the question is whether clubs are making the best use of those finite resources.
And yes football clubs are losing money paying fees. It's an expenditure.
You do share knowledge, thx. 😉
Isn't that something you determine in hindsight rather than beforehand?
You determine whether a player was worth the expenditure in hindsight, but asking 'whether he is worth it' is a prediction.
Making this prediction may be unfeasible or boring, but it isn't nonsense.
Yeah agree, it's such a difficult thing to judge due to the amount of variables. Utd have spent an awful lot of money in the past few years, many say it's been a waste but for example had they had Mourihno in charge 3 yrs ago & seen lots of success then we probably wouldn't be saying that. The future's difficult to predict.
Yes it's an expenditure, which is easily offset by the income they generate.
£100m isn't pocket change for anybody.
If they had bottomless pockets, they'd be buying plenty more players.
Well they have a pretty stacked midfield anyway;
Herrera
Fellani
Mata
Schneiderlin
Sweinstenger
Carrick
It's not like they need another one, especially as the first 4 names on this list were all in excess of £30m each - that just shows you how much money they have to blow.
I agree it's not bottomless, nothing is, but £100m to Man Utd isn't a big deal, how much do Adidas pay them to be a kit sponsor? and that's just one of countless sponsors they have worldwide
Federer wins second set. 1-1
Roger that.
Is this gonna be the season for Jordan Ibe?
Even today mané is the only established pure winger liverpool have (unless you count grujic)...
Maybe he'd start as an impact sub and end the season as a starter? Good shout for a draft team or far-fetched? Thoughts?
He's going to Bournemouth, so maybe
going to bournemouth for 15m
Missed that, sry
Bt that won't bode well... Both him and fischer are goalscorers... Maybe I'll avoid him then (until boro get a good creative player who isn't downing)
Err he's off to Bournemouth and wouldn't play a minute at Pool
Lazar Markovic is a winger right? 😀
This Grujic guy, once I saw someone saying he was a DM, then a CM, right now a winger is he THAT versatile?
Lol
Alright, so the first couple of game weeks are always tricky for me as teams and players are still settling in. My question is, how do you utilize your transfers in the first couple gameweeks? Do you use them to get any non-starters/injuried players out? Or do you aim for good TV early on by jumping on bandwagons? When is a surprise player who scores well in GW 1 worth? It's here that I've had difficulties (not bringing Mahrez in until GW 4 last year or bringing in James Chester two seasons ago [15 in GW 1, sent off in GW2]).
Thoughts?
Start by waiting for prices to be released and do some yoga for inner peace.
I usually mess them up and then wildcard early on.
Plan this year is to just jump on everything as soon as possible. May start off with 5m in the bank also
Jump on the "right" bandwagons, which is the tough part.
Hits are more viable at the start of the season than at the end imo.
This is absolutely the truth. If you set out on a long journey and you've gone wrong from the outset, it's much more efficient to correct the direction early on than wait until later. (Daft analogy, but you can see what I mean)
Yeah, I've never managed to jump on the right bandwagons lol
If you can save 0.5 for price rises that's a bonus. Yes jump on bandwagons but try to avoid the knee jerks. Save a transfer if you can.
Ideally have the best players from the beginning, and let others get them in bandwagons, and then just let your FT's roll and only use them to swap injured player for playing ones, or change those of your players who are going to have difficulties to those just starting a good row of results. That's what I plan to do, anyway.
PANIC WILDCARD
Well when everyone realises they f*cked up by ignoring Snodgrass at 8m...
He'll be in everyones teams come GW10
He'll be 10m by GW10.
How do you know his price already?
Price list was announced 25 minutes ago.
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I still bloody refreshed it 😆
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As did I! dammit IM.
Buy the players who are going to score the most points and don't sell them . It's so simple 🙄 😉
GW2 WC ftw. 😎
Thanks for the replies all, certainly plenty to "philosophize" over 😉
Lool, the free fall continues. Just looked at my rank now and it is 14k 😆
I was ranked 75 after Gw2!!! 😆
#TEAMITALIATHINGS
I got 24 this gameweek. 😛
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I am over 3500 right now. Was 14th overall at one point at group phase.
AB on twitter:
The Tottenham away kit would be great for hiding on wooden floors.
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Picture?
Ok, now I get it. 😆
Looks less good as well.
Surely that's for Europe. Looks like butter cookies.
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I think that looks quite good, tbh.
People are making plans on how much they will spend on on their strikers etc.
Anyone else think that you shouldn't do this before knowing the prices as the best way to win is to get the most points per million so comparing should be done first?
Exactly. People making pricing templates at the moment are just bored 😛
I see it every year even when the prices are out, doesn't make sense
No way! 😀
Everyone is so impatient for fpl to start but a week from now people are going to be sick of rmt's and wishing for it to be quiet like it is now 🙂
I already am. 🙂
I like to do it, I use it as a template to build a balanced team that can react to bandwagons.
Fair enough, different strategy than mine, I prefer to try to get the most value per million rather than a balanced team, then again it can lead to an early wildcard if it doesn't go well.
That's the beauty of FPL, so many different strategies.
Makes sense when prices come out but there could be a completely different range this year. There could be 3m players and 15m players for all we know!
It's just something that's worked for me the last 2 seasons.
Yep that's fair enough, and don't change at all 🙂 go with whatever works best for you!
I'm just saying that it *might* be rendered pointless if the game's "new changes" are drastic.
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Really hope Leko is 4.5m this year... First name on my team if he is
Who is Leko and whats the appeal?
WBA winger. Earned a few starts and one or 2 assists at the end of the season.
Seen him play quite a lot, young powerful winger who has an eye for goal, one of the few 4.5 mids who actually attack. The kid is gonna be a very very good player.
Yooooink.
Passed the eye test flying across the radar. If he starts regularly then he is a must have at that price. Also, WB's opening fixtures make it worth it.
I still think he won't get loaned out and will play but we will see
Chance of Boyd being 4.5?
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He will be 5.5
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Probably not, and he's not that great anyway.
Italy have been so well organised because Conte has worked with that back 4 for a long time and they are all top players with a lot of experience and great understanding.
He doesn't have that at Chelsea so don't get to carried away saying he is amazing at organising teams and Chelsea have the best defence from the start. IMO.
Formation could also be an issue.
Plenty good defensive options this season, so easy enough to avoid the more risky ones
Was thinking about this. However, I trust him to have an effect on them at the back. Plus, Chelsea defs will be be cheaper and good fixtures too, so hard to not get them. Can see your point though, thanks., will still keep in mind.
Just click the button, Mark Rogers.
I can't..
The mods don't like Nyan Cat, clearly 😉
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It's because it's naked.
So this is a website for people that enjoy talking about Fantasy Premier League, and other games of that ilk?
A cross between that and a mental asylum, yes.
Ha, spot on.
Did not realise Ritchie signed for Newcastle! Strange decision from him, he must be getting paid a lot more
People might not agree with me, but I think those two will be swapping divisions in 10 months or so. Newcastle is undeniably a bigger club.
He could've moved on next season then? Why switch from the top division in England to the one below?
The move might not have been on next season. Fair enough decision to make the move while he had a chance.
I don't totally disagree, I'm a big fan of what Eddie Howe is doing at Bournemouth, talented, young team, Ibe and Cook arriving soon as well....but can you really stay in the PL with kids?
Well, I'm avoiding all city players until Pep realises you have to kick lumps out of teams to win in the PL.
"Beautiful football" has got 2-0 loss away to Stokewritten all over it.
Aguero will score regardless imo, City may not win but chances are KDB and Aguero are safe picks
Pep's not that naive, he'll know what to do against teams like Stoke
Are there Stokesque teams in Germany/Spain?
VfB Stöke and CF Stokao
You've clearly not watched Bayern under Pep over the last couple of years, then.
You're absolutely right. Do they play like Wimbledon?
We didn't kick lumps out of anyone last season! Firm but fair is the Morgan way.
Optimum Euro 2016 final eleven? Is this it?
Lloris
Koscielny / Pepe / Sagna
Sissoko / Payet / Pogba / Renato Sanches
Giroud / Ronaldo / Griezmann (c)
Obv whomever starts of Sissoko / Kante (most likely Sissoko) and Renato more threat than Joao Mario?
I would be playing 4 at the back, if not 5.
I suspect a dull 1-0 France win or 0-0 is the likely result.
Assuming Pogba moves to Man Utd, what is the consensus on his appeal as a fantasy asset?
Last year he scored 8 goals and got 12 assists, with 10 yellow cards, from 33 appearances. He also got around 20 clean sheets. This puts him at around 150 points.
However, Serie A is typically low-scoring, so with Mourinho's promise to play more attacking football, is he likely to score/assist more, and will it be enough to justify his FPL price tag (around 11m?)?
Can see him being 9.5. Would rather pay the extra for Mhky
Wouldn't choose him over Mkhitaryan or Martial (if a mid)
This. Fatter fish in the ocean for less price surely. His position is a problem when compared to Mkhi for example. However, that didn't stop Ramsey in that stellar season tbf.
Juventus scored more goals than any PL team last season. And both Napoli and Roma outscored Juventus.
Add in the fact it's a weaker league, and he'll be in a lest dominant side, I'd suggest he'd score less.
If FPL prices reflected real world.
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Not strictly true.
You can have Ibra up top, since he was a free transfer 😉
Good spot....What about Valdez, did he end up on a free?
Yep, we're up to 3 men!
We might not need to downgrade Pogba after all.
