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7 August 2016 5026 comments
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With the Brazilian duo of Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho, along with Adam Lallana, the Liverpool midfield was already full of attacking intent last season.

With Sadio Mane recruited from Southampton and Georginio Wijnaldum drafted in from Newcastle, Fantasy managers face an even tougher choice when selecting from Liverpool’s crowded list of midfielders.

With this in mind, we asked our team of contributors the “Burning Question” – “Which of Jurgen Klopp’s midfield assets warrant investment?”

“Dufflinks” aka Simon March (2014/15 FPL Champion) says…

Maybe it’s because I’ve been burned several seasons running by Liverpool midfielders (my Coutinho and Firmino double Gameweek double up last season was a notable disaster), but none of Liverpool’s players fill me with confidence this season.

Their opening fixtures don’t help their cause but, inevitably, somebody will emerge with form to tempt the good ship that is my Fantasy team towards the jagged rocks of red-arrow oblivion.

Or maybe this year it’ll be different. Firmino might play up front and Coutinho looks good value at 8.0. Then there’s Sadio ‘not another hat-trick?’ Mane to think about.

The problem is, whichever I chose, I’m pretty certain I’ll be choosing be the wrong one. That’s really the challenge; there’s too little to pick between them at the moment and, meanwhile, there’s plenty of comparable and, arguably, safer options to look at elsewhere.

So the short answer is that, for all the undeniable quality and potential in Liverpool’s midfield, a player would have to emerge as a really compelling and consistent option before I can bring myself to look in that direction again.

Mark says…

It’s fortunate that Liverpool’s fixtures are so unappealing early on – that should give us the opportunity to assess matters further before being lured to invest in Klopp’s midfield.

My love/hate relationship with Mane is well known on these pages and inevitably my heart is screaming to side with the Senegalese.

Meanwhile, my head will urge me to play safe and stick with Firmino. He’s the option most likely to be backed by Klopp and a player who could find himself spearheading the Liverpool attack as a false nine – that’s certainly been the case in pre-season.

With 0.5 in change, it seems obvious to opt for the Brazilian, although Mane’s tendency to explode goals remains a nagging concern.

Elsewhere, both Wijnaldum and Countinho cloud the issue further.

Much as I’d like Coutinho’s class to translate to emphatic Fantasy returns, I fear he’ll be reduced to providing the probing passes that go unrewarded, relying on numerous improbable strikes from range to keep his tally ticking.

Firmino ahead of the Gameweek 6 clash with Hull, looks the likely route. I only hope that a slow start will keep his price grounded and that Mane’s output to that point doesn’t turn my head further.

Jonty says…

In my view there are just three main protagonists in the Liverpool midfield, each offering something different depending on your style of Fantasy management.

For the “dullards” amongst us there is Firmino: a known favourite of Klopp who looks the most nailed on of the midfield.

He also has a strong debut season under his belt, accruing 155 points even though it took him around two months to cement himself in the side.

His ten goals, eight assists and 18 FPL bonus points last term also show his game offers broad points potential. It will come as no surprise to reveal that this ‘Steady Eddy’ of Klopp’s unit is this dullard’s top Liverpool midfield target.

For the Maverick there is a Mane. He’s incredibly frustrating and inconsistent, but his explosive potential is tailor made for the risk taking Fantasy manager.

Take last season for example. After failing to score in the Premier League for four months he went on a sensational and unexpected scoring run that included a brace against Liverpool and a hat-trick against Manchester City.

Finally, for the stats obsessives, Coutinho offers a third route.

Last season no other midfielder had more goal attempts than his tally of 111. But with just eight goals from this effort he is a goal explosion that may never arrive.

Paul says…

Roberto Firmino.

I reckon Wijnaldum’s potential will be somewhat diminished by his ability to play in a deeper central midfield role, whilst Coutinho’s underlying numbers will always flatter to deceive – essentially, this is a player who has scored 4.9% and 7.2% of his chances in the last two seasons and lacks a cutting edge.

This leaves Firmino and Sadio Mane as my favoured Liverpool midfield options. Whilst both are versatile enough to play as a “false nine” or in the attacking midfield positions, I simply feel that Firmino is a class above the summer signing from Southampton.

The Brazilian’s output with Klopp in charge underlines his capabilities.

Firmino averaged 5.8 points per match under the German’s guidance last season and, despite Liverpool’s tricky opening schedule, it’s worth bearing in mind that the former Hoffenheim man picked up returns against the likes of Chelsea, Leicester, Man City and Arsenal amongst others in 2015/16.

A player of that calibre, with such fixture-proof potential and priced relatively kindly at 8.5, looks irresistible.

Spencer says…

Some of Klopp’s games last season where a joy to watch, with aggression, directness, and attacking intent all key to Liverpool’s play. With a raft of new acquisitions the German has firmly cemented his ethos in the side and there are high hopes for this season.

Amongst their midfielders, Firmino certainly looks the best option.

He was Liverpool’s top goal scorer last season and has shown the magic that he can produce on the pitch. Added to that, some impressive outings as a false nine position further cement his appeal.

Coutinho has often produced impressive underlying statistics, but his end product has been lacking. The key question is whether Klopp get some consistency from the young Brazilian and whether that will translate to Fantasy points returns.

Meanwhile, Lallana has also shone under Klopp. One could argue that the former Southampton midfielder has played his best football at Liverpool during his tenure. But his starting role has never looked assured since arriving at Anfield.

Then we have the new signings – Mane and Wijnaldum. Both have similar statistics (11 goals and six and five assists respectively) and could yet emerge as strong options under Klopp.

Lack of European competition should ease rotation fears, but it could also breed discontent as those left on the bench become increasingly unsatisfied with their lack of game time.

Fixtures are also tough early on but I don’t think this will hinder Liverpool. They played exceptionally well against many so called bigger sides last season.

As soon as it becomes clear which midfielder is most assured of starts and demonstrates consistency, they are heading straight for my squad.

Applebonkers says…

This is a very interesting one, as are Liverpool as a whole with Klopp’s feet now fully under the table and no European distractions.

Firmino was a quiet colossus once he broke into the side properly and there’s no reason why at 24 he can’t push on even more.

Hamstring injuries and the Europa League kept Coutinho away from blue-star status but there were actually signs of a consistent FPL points scorer developing.

Mane is too mercurial to predict, he may also be more prone to bench-time with Lallana lurking.

Then there’s the dishwater duo of Milner and Henderson. They will play too deep with Milner expected to fill in at left-back and, thanks to Emre Can and Wijnaldum, there’s just too much competition for places.

I’ve got a good feeling about Liverpool this season, I think they’ll overwhelm a lot of sides and rack-up some big wins. Like hairy conjoined twins prepping for the beach, two Brazilians could be the answer here.

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  1. swano13
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone got any idea about how city will start defence wise?

    1. Fpl Old Guard
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      City will start with at least 1 goalie (85% certain), with a back four made up primarily of defenders as their recognised position (100% certain on this).

      1. Pazzify
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Played two midfielders at cb last outing...

  2. vsargo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    What would you change?

    De Gea - Stekelenburg
    Daniels - Stones - Van Dijk - Alderweireld - Fuchs
    Mahrez - Payet - Dier - Davis - Cabaye
    Vardy - Rooney - Iheanacho

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      which game are you playing?

      1. vsargo
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        FPL

    2. Fpl Old Guard
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I would change your goalkeepers, better rotation available.
      I would change your entire back 5, better ppg options options.
      I would change your midfield 5, better value players available.
      I like Iheanacho but I think there are other forwards that will score better compared to their price than vary and Rooney.
      Hope this helps!

      1. vsargo
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        it didnt lol

        but i changed some players...we will see

        thanks 😉

    3. StefanMorrison1221
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Your 3 strikers

  3. mranonymous
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Costa + Mahrez vs. Vardy + Firmino..... can't make a decision for the life of me

    1. sonova
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      B. Easy.

  4. comedydave7
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    What do you guys reckon? Rooney despite his shortcomings seems a cheap way into the United attack and has set pieces. Also allows me to have Sanchez.

    Foster - Jak
    Shaw - Stones - Pieters - Friend - Taylor
    Hazard - Sanchez - Lamela - Redmond - Capoue
    Aguero - Rooney - Gray

    Appreciate any advice!

    1. Langley van Gaal
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      find the extra 0.5 and go Martial instead of Rooney.

  5. trinzoo
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    A) Stones / Redmond
    B) Sagna / Ramirez

  6. Langley van Gaal
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    A) De Gea & Feghouli

    B) Heaton & Ayew?

    1. Fpl Old Guard
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely option C, no doubts at all

    2. Pazzify
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      B

  7. JoelyG
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    A:Townsend + Tadic (1 mil itb)
    B: Firmino + Redmond (0.5m itb)

    My other midfielders are Lamela and Hazard
    with Ibra and Aguero

    1. StefanMorrison1221
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Option B
      But both good options

    2. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      If Benteke joins Palace tomorrow, townsend will be gold!

  8. avolaris
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Hey lads, can i please have some advice on which team you like better and what options you would change cheers!

    Team A

    Courtois

    Bellerin - Alderweireld - Azpilicueta (Subs Paredes, smith)

    Firmino - Payet - Shaqiri - De Bruyne - Lamela

    Costa - Long (Subs Grabban)

    (3-5-3)
    --------------------
    Team B

    Courtois

    Bellerin - Souare - Azpilicueta (Subs Paredes, smith)

    Firmino - Payet - Fischer - De Bruyne - Lamela

    Aguero - Long (Subs Grabban)

    (3-5-3)

    1. pm17
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      team B seems better to me...id change kdb to hazard tho as u already have aguero in there...also arsenal have defensive crisis goin on bellerin mite be an expensive risk

  9. avolaris
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Team A

    Courtois
    Bellerin - Souare - Azpilicueta (Subs Paredes, smith)

    Firmino - Payet - Shaqiri Lamela (SUB Hojbjerg)

    Aguero - Costa - Long

    (3-4-3)
    --------------------
    Team B

    Courtois
    Bellerin - Souare - Azpilicueta (Subs Paredes, smith)

    Firmino - Payet - Fischer - De Bruyne - Lamela

    Aguero - Long (Subs Grabban)

    (3-5-2)

    1. thatssospursy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I might look to switch Courtois or Azplicueta for shaw or deGea. But thats just me, not a fan of double coverage on defense.

  10. Leeroy357
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Any thoughts?

    Courtois - Jakupovic
    Shaw - Pieters - Friend - Kaboul - Cathcart
    Hazard - Martial - Deulofeu - Townsend - Capoue
    Aguero - Kane - Gray

  11. Honeybadger United
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Hey guys,

    Last 19.0m.
    A. Redmond, Ramirez, Gray (1.0 itb),
    B. Fletcher, Mahrez, Barrow (0.0 itb), or
    C. Fletcher, Tadic, Gray (0.5 itb)

    Going for WC before GW4.

    Thoughts are appreciated.

    1. sonova
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A for me

  12. RomeluStormzy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Should be the latest time...

    HEATON
    SHAW MORGAN STONES
    FERGHOULI HAZ MKHI TOWNSHEND
    IBRA KUN GRAY

    Bench: Foster; Friend Capoue Parades.

    Current main concern is having Mkhi and Zlatan.

    Should I:
    A) Keep it as it is.
    B) Make money and go for KDB
    C) Go for a cheaper mid than Mkhi and boost my defence. If so which mid?

    Appreciate feedback guys.

    1. StefanMorrison1221
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I'd hold of on Kdb as he won't start the first game but I would make plans for him in the future I would get someone like hazard or firmino instead of mkhi

  13. erucci
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Can anyone help me with 4.0M defenders who play every week?

    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      There are none!

  14. TaiwanHC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    What is the "perfect" amount of money you should spend on goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and attackers respectively?

    1. StefanMorrison1221
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I would say
      Gk 10 mil
      Def 24 mil
      Mid 37 mil
      Att 29 mil
      That's what I would roughly do however you could cheapen up goalkeeper and have more expensive attack or something

  15. pm17
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Any advicec wud be appreciated
    barkley or delofeu? ...also wat formation are everton expected to play?

    1. Bushman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      I've gone for Deulofeu as he's £1m cheaper but were they the same, I would pick Barkleys as he's got goals in him. I suspect they'll play 4-2-3-1 with Bolasie, Barkley and Deulofeu behind Rom.

  16. My little Bony
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    RMT, any Advice plz?

    Heaton
    Shaw Stones Kone
    Deulofeu Lamela Hazard Firminho
    Ibra Aguero Long
    Subs: mandanda Fletcher Evans smith

  17. Mateja
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Towsend or bolasie ??

    1. Langley van Gaal
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Townsend

    2. Bushman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Townsend easy

  18. woody3260
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    A) Tadic & Kane

    B) Lamela & Origi

    1. Mateja
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Bushman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Def A

    3. jdogg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      A by a mile.x

  19. harvard
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    comments pls
    1. stones, amat, jakupovic, bolasie, ayew.
    or
    2. feghouli instead of ayew giving me 2.0 itb to get sagna, pieters, boruc, townsend.

    currently on 1

    1. Bushman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      I'd go for 2. Swansea and Hull are in crisis, Townsend over Bolasie and I'm not sure how Ayew will fit into the Hammers team. Will he play as a striker???

  20. willl
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Kane + Gradel + Tadic + Coleman

    or

    Vardy + Firmino + Redmond + Stones?

  21. DeathAngel
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Wahoo, the new season is here! 😀

  22. EDEN THE MAN
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Please choose your preffered option.

    Mahrez+Hazard+Lukaku
    Mahrez+Oscar+Ibra
    Hazard+Deulefeu+Ibra

    Thanks in advance

    I will have Aguero in all 3 situations.

    1. Bushman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Toughie. Prob C then A. I don't rate Oscar's chances this season

  23. PeteMorr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    A - Kun, Redmond
    B - Ibra, Tadic

  24. Kurt Zouma
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Is Ayew going to be thrown straight in?

  25. colmbarrett83
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Ericsson and tadic
    OR
    Firming and Ayew? ?

    1. colmbarrett83
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Have hazard and Bolasie in a 343

  26. harvard
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    behind the striker most times but is an option for striker especially if westham are seeing off a game.

    edit on question:
    a. eriksen townsend feghouli
    b. eriksen bolasie feghouli plus 0.5itb
    c. lamela bolasie ayew

  27. Punty McPuntface
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    First draft team done - anyone fancy rating it please and thank you.

    DDG (Jaku)
    Shaw - Azpi - Friend (McAuley - Amat)
    Tadic - Firmino - Townsend - Oscar (Kightly)
    Vardy - Augero - Long

  28. allaboutthemagic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    A - Jaku Morgan Ibe
    B - Heaton VVD Fletcher

  29. Platinum
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Firminio (Liverpool coverage no Spurs)

    or

    Erikson/Ali (Spurs coverage no Liverpool)

    Last spot!

  30. hksevens
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Hey all, would appreciate any thoughts on...

    De Gea (Pickford)
    Stones Bailly Van Dijk (Amat, Paredes)
    Hazard Redmond Firmino Delph (Kante)
    Aguero Ibrahimovic Gray