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Dugout Discussion – Man City vs Sunderland

13 August 2016 4436 comments
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Attentions now turn to the Etihad where Pep Guardiola makes his Premier League bow.

David Moyes’ Sunderland are the guests and potential party poopers, although the odds do seem stacked against them.

The Black Cats are in transition under their new manager, while City boast such attacking riches there can be no doubt that they head into today’s clash as overwhelming favourites.

Expectant Fantasy managers will be looking to Sergio Aguero to capitlise – the Argentine heads into the teatime kick-off as the most popular captain choice in the Gameweek and with over 40% ownership.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Swan - Villa Proud
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    11th in my ML, trailing by 7. Noticed that only 1 other person has Ibra. 🙂

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  2. Boo Ya Ka Sha
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    I know it's only been one week. But as a Tadic owner should I be concerned not having Redmond + 1.5? Is dropping Tadic to Redmond worth the ft?

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    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Tadic sounded like he had a great game throughout. If you thought Tadic was better before today then nothing should change your mind just because he didn't score.

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      1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        That 1.5 could be valuable elsewhere and if another mid, who is 1.5 cheaper, is being trusted as a striker and is building confidence.. why wait?

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        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Why did you not think like this before today then? We all knew Redmond was going to start up front and he's always been 1.5m cheaper.

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          1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 28 days ago

            because I had that sinking feeling that Tadic would bag that once-a-season big haul. He has pk's and set pieces. He's nailed. I pictured Redmond doing poorly and being subbed off for Jay or Austin around 60 minutes. It's not as if Redmond scored a goal from open play. lucky bounce from a corner but credit to him for being in the right place at the right time. I have no clue how he played throughout the match.

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            1. Smurf
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 28 days ago

              You thought GW1 he was going to to get a super big haul and that's why you picked him?

              He was MOTM today, could easily have gotten points and will definitely get points in the coming week.

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              1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 28 days ago

                thanks Smurf

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                1. Smurf
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 28 days ago

                  No problem. Redmond is a great pick but if you dump Tadic he will definitely score well and then you will get burnt. I wouldn't do anything hasty and just give it a week or two more to decide.

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          2. Boo Ya Ka Sha
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 28 days ago

            We also knew Bojan would be up top, why did ppl bring him in? I watched highlights of Redmond and found his finishing to be poor. Plus others on here were saying the same.

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            1. Smurf
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 28 days ago

              I don't think many dos bring in Bojan. I'm not sure how this correlates anyway as he has never looked like a worthwhile pick.

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              1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 28 days ago

                didn't* And it's just the connection between mids being played up top.I should've given Redmond more credit but he's never been a true worthwhile pick either and he was the likeliest of strikers to be pulled off for Austin or Jay.

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    2. ThunderPants
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      its only the first week. we have 37 more to go. hold fire, watch next weeks games and see what happens, then you make 2 transfers

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    3. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      The formation with Redmond up front did not work and he is much more effective on the wing cutting inside, Saints had no width playing 442 so although Redmond did well i think he is better played to the wing.

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  3. Mo Salah No Mane
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Ranking 4654 🙂

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    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Superb

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      1. Mo Salah No Mane
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Thanks 🙂

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  4. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    How did the Scouts get on? Anyone know?

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    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Scout Picks? Bit rubbish

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Mark, Jonty, Granville, Andy etc.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/leagues/standings/12306/classic

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Ah cheers TM

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      2. Veggente85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        This first of this league has exactly my team, except Smith instead than Amat.

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  5. HellasLEAF
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    So, Mahrez on Pens, not Vardy.

    kk

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      It seems that way yes

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  6. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    The biggest and one of the best tips I can give people is that you should TRY and make transfers as late as possible. 🙂

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    1. Mull
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Team value is everything at the start of the season. Last season was an exception.

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      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Does anyone have a team value link that explains it well?

        Don't really get the point so far.

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        1. Mull
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          If a player you own goes up 0.2m and you sell him you get 0.1m profit. If a player goes down 0.1m and you sell him you're team value will go down 0.1m. There are price change websites that tell you when a player is going to go up and down in price.

          The idea is to accumulate a reasonably high team value so that in the second half of the season you can put in more good players than other people with a similar rank which should give you an edge.

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          1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 28 days ago

            That explains it perfectly thanks - what's a good website to use?

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            1. Mull
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 28 days ago

              http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/
              If the target column is over 100 then they are likely going to rise. It usually takes them a few weeks to get the predictor fully accurate but it's a very good indication no matter what.

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    2. Boo Ya Ka Sha
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      I've been burned waiting too late and I've been burned transferring too early. Every situation is different

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    3. Veggente85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Players prices won't change much in the first gameweek.

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  7. andymck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    What bandwagons will people be jumping on this week then?

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    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      None.

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      1. HellasLEAF
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        maybe Redmond

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    2. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      I can imagine Redmond will be popular as well as Lamela.

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    3. SW6
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      maybe barkley

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Lucky haul again apparently

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    4. MrMaverick
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      foster

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    5. Chris_White
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Lamela and Redmond

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  8. HellasLEAF
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    was Tadic at all threatening?

    feel foolish doubling up with both Tadic and Redmond. Let alone I had Cedric..

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Created the most chances of any player today.

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      1. HellasLEAF
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        cheers

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    2. kijsberg
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      I doubled up too. I'm quite happy about it. I want Lamela in though, so not sure what to do.

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      1. HellasLEAF
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        want Lamela as well..

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    3. SW6
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      he got MOTM

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  9. BeardedOldMan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Just woke up, another season another bad start.

    Omg Kane... Not a single shot! Did anyone see the match? What happened?

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    1. MrMaverick
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      not fussed about kane at all

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    2. Chris_White
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Lamela was doing all the shooting.

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      1. BeardedOldMan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Yeah, and he was in my team for a week, then I changed to Erickson at the last minute. Dang.

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    3. Meinhoff
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      I watched the whole game and literally can't remember a single time when he touched the ball

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    4. Hurrikane
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      really bad first 60 mins from spurs, eriksen and alli were very quiet and so ball never really arrived at Kane. Lamela, Janssen and Walker had good games.

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    5. Jay10
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      In the first half,Spurs were absolute horrendous. In the 2nd half,Janssen took better positions,Kane started playing a bit behind him. I have him and will remove him if he doesn't score/assist vs Palace.

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    6. BeardedOldMan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Thanks all. I think I'll hold erikson and Kane for a while... They're long term picks anyway. Just a nasty shock to the system on day 1

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  10. Venom Snake
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    61 points with Shaw and Ibra left

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Post by accident

      Shaw Ibra and Hazard left. Good GW1!

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      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Very good

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          How'd you go mate?

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Nicely done. Now to keep it going!

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Ha thanks champ, I'll try 🙂

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        1. Jethrik
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Well played - same score as me, but I've only got one defender left.

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  11. Chris_White
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Barring injuries, I think I'm saving my transfer in week 1.

    That's a first.

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    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Me too I think

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Yep, seems the sensible thing to do. Am worried about not having a Tottenham attacking player vs Palace though.

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      1. Chris_White
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        I have Kane, but not comfortable captaining. Lack of options makes it the most sensible choice, though.

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  12. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    How did Gray play today?

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    1. Chris_White
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Not very good.

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    2. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Don't think he got many chances. Will see how he does next couple of weeks but if Burnley don't step up the creativity he won't get goals.

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    3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Had 4 shots I think. Could have gone the other way and everyone would be knee jerking him in!!!

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  13. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Foster - Heaton rotation looks to have been evil this week.

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    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Yep, although 4 for Heaton isn't the end of the world.

      Isn't days like today when rotation comes into force. It's when Burnley are away at Chelsea and WBA are at home to Boro.

      People knock it but I still think it's better than 1 premium keeper.

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Yep, the reasoning is sound. Thing is, it's games against the big clubs where goalies can earn the most points. It's conceding 1 goal from 2 shots on target when the rotation hurts.

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        1. fiveyears
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Yep you're right on that one. It's a guessing game most of the time but like all these things once a pattern is established the guesses become more educated.

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  14. Net Gains
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Ok peeps let's hear how you all did. I'm 40 from 8, really not sure what to make of that...

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      GW rank?

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      1. Net Gains
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        239,000 🙁

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Nothing wrong with that.

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    2. GS456
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      44 from 8 so similar. But 24 pts on my bench

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  15. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Going to do a Doosra and throw some stats out there

    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/15589/

    Just a quick roundup of the threatening players from GW1 so far

    It's sorted by "Shots on target" but I think "Touches - Penalty Area" or "Touches - Final Third" gives a good indication of attacking defenders, etc.

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Shots in the box*

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    2. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Cheers fella.

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    3. Veggente85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      I suggest you to add "headers" for the shots. Headers shots should be discounted compared to regular shots because they have less chances to be converted in a goal.

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  16. BB-8
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Will Oscar start on Monday?

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    1. Chris_White
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Very likely.

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  17. THE Wild Rover
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    18.4k rank, very happy with 4 to play but 2 huge difference will make or break me, got Rooney over Ibra and Oscar over Hazard.

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    1. THE Wild Rover
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Differentials

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    2. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Flair, I like it 😎

      Every year we end up having similar teams/ scores 😀

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    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Rooney owner here too. I'm not a massive fan but United have a proper forward now which might create some space for Rooney. He's got an array of talent around him so should have every opportunity to get his assist and scoring boots back on. Will be a bargain at 9m if so.

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    4. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Lovely position would you and Bowstring be interested in mailing ian-cox@hotmail.co.uk

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      1. HellasLEAF
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Rooney will disappoint. On the decline. Funds better spent elsewhere. Differential he is I'll give you that.

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      2. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        ??

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        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Something you may be interested in

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        2. HellasLEAF
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          ???

          Rooney will frustrate Rooney owners.

          You heard it right here

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  18. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Any news about the morning problems?

    Likely FPL HQ will give everyone free transfers till next GW deadline?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Doubt you'll be get free anything seeing you had ages to sort it.

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      1. THE Wild Rover
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        What was different when they did give free WC? Can't remember

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        1. Smythe
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          As far as I remember, the site was down on both Friday and Saturday that season.

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        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Deadline day was really bad.

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    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      We got a free wildcard once because the entire system went down for over a day before the deadline . I only had problems from 11:00 onwards .

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  19. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Looks like Coleman to Terry. 🙁

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    1. THE Wild Rover
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Thought you'd already done it?

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      1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        I meant I was forced to do it tonight. Couldn't decide who to bring in. 🙂

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        1. Smythe
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          How were you forced to do it tonight?
          What if Terry is injured on Monday night?

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          1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 28 days ago

            That's a good point, maybe I should wait till the end of the game week.

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  20. Venom Snake
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    My rank isn't coming up. I'm on the mobile site, anyone with be same issue?

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    1. Reedy
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Mine isn't on the points screen, but it's listed in gameweek history

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    2. BabyB
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Scroll down to the leagues and you can see it from the overall league

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    3. Oooof
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Try looking under 'Leagues' tab.

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    4. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      go to gameweek history

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        OR 1787!!!

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    5. Venom Snake
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Thanks for all the replies

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  21. Velocity
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Any Price rises tonight?

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    1. kijsberg
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      If fplstatistics is accurate, then no.

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  22. Oooof
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    18,243 after some luck with my mid priced midfielders!

    Unfortunately only 1 point ahead of office mini-league rival in my head to head.

    He's got 3 players left (Mkhitaryan, Bailly and Mane) and I've got 4 players to go (Zlatan, Firmino, Shaw and Azpi).

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Good position. That is better than me

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      1. Oooof
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Cheers - hope I'm looking at the right ranking!

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  23. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    A certain Venezuelan has caught my eye.. 😉

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    1. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Condoms are useless good when Pulis involved

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      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Pulis is the ultimate cure for leaks.

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  24. fiveyears
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Rank really isn't as bad as I thought it'd be. Quite a solid start actually.

    Unless you went full on differential and went without Aguero chances are you did better than last year.

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  25. GS456
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Solid start. 44 points with shaw, Cortois and hazard to play, but 24 on my bench! (Jaku, Capoue, Amat and Evans) funny old game, but good to be back. How's everyone else got on?

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    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Similar. 48 with Haz, Firm and Valencia yet to play. Pretty happy with that.

      My bench smashed it though.

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    2. Venom Snake
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      I've done surprisingly well mate

      61 - Shaw Hazard Ibra left

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      1. GS456
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Class that! Who was your main pt scorers? I assume aguero capo

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          Aguero(c)
          Foster
          Mahrez
          Redmond
          Lamela

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  26. fitzy
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    53

    Ibra Valencia Shaw Hazard Feghouli all still left to play from my starting 11.

    Should be chuffed but I can't get past starting Heaton over Foster.

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    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      No one expected that result.

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  27. camarozz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Asked this already. Any idea where I can see championship highlights guys???

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    1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Usually on BBC after match of the day

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      1. camarozz
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Not on aftr MOTD anymore I'm afraid

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    2. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Moved to Channel 5 from last season.

      At 9pm all the Championship games, then from 10pm League 1 and 2 games.

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    3. lonelypilgrim
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      channel 5 but been on already

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  28. Venom Snake
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Okay finally saw my rank, thanks to those who told me how to find it.

    Rank of 1787 😎

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      If your not first your last

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        This is my best start to a season Cheese, don't bring me down!!

        😆

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        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 28 days ago

          The weeks not over yet

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  29. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    How was the average only 23???

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    1. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Because of people like this

      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/1052391/event/1

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      1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 28 days ago

        Ah lol... Ibra also at 40% ownership. I'm guessing 25% of players are so have him captained.

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    2. ThunderPants
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      casuals

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    3. Licky
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      14 goals scored 2 cleanies

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    4. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      And this

      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/451778/event/1

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  30. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 28 days ago

    Is Holgate likely to continue playing or will Williams take his spot next game?

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    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Williams nailed IMO ( God how much I hate the nailed phrase but hey ho)

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    2. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 28 days ago

      Williams is first choice so wether it's next week or the week after Holgate will be dropped surely.

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