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With European football forcing a reschedule, us Fantasy managers suffer a reduced Saturday programme made up of just a quartet of three o’clock kick-offs.

Our main focus is likely to be the London Stadium, where we will be tracking West Ham’s progress against Middlesbrough following four straight defeats. Michail Antonio looks poised to play up front today and carries the hopes of 18% of Fantasy Premier League managers, with almost 13% still keeping faith in Dimitri Payet.

Chelsea are another side with ailing form, although 26% still take Diego Costa into the Blues’ trip to Hull City, with another 20% holding Eden Hazard. Antonio Conte starts both Marcus Alonso and Victor Moses at the KCOM today, with Branislav Ivanovic dropping to the bench.

Elsewhere, Jermain Defoe’s 12% ownership will be hoping for a repeat performance from their striker after his brace in the 3-2 defeat to Crystal Palace in Gameweek 6. The Black Cats take on West Brom at the Stadium of Light, with Gareth McAuley found in 26% of FPL squads.

Watford’s Vicarage Road meeting with Bournemouth completes Saturday programme, with Fantasy managers set to re-assess the form of Walter Mazzarri’s assets following Monday’s disappointing defeat at Burnley.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Slam
    10 years, 25 days ago

    What a terrible week, 19 with 4 to go 😕
    As is the deal with every Saturday, I feel open to taking rage hits but would obviously prefer not to 🙂
    Any early suggestions here?

    Foster
    Collins Evans Valencia
    Sanchez Antonio Snodgrass Capoue
    Aguero Ibrahimovic Lukaku

    Heaton... De Roon Baines Amat
    1 FT 0.3 ITB

    Cheers

    1. Podge
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Looks pretty good to me, similar to my own, I reckon Baines can go, I'm bringing in Davies (hull)
      Strange I got 39 with only a couple of different players

    2. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      I envy you

      1. Slam
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Really? Uh oh..

    3. Cok3y5murf
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Too early to suggest with the international break coming but Capoue as 4th mid should be your first priority. Probably get Ibra out to fund that

    4. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      18 with 4 played 🙂

    5. Ruth_NZ
      10 years, 25 days ago

      It's Zlatan. Not that he's a bad pick (and I hope he's your captain tomorrow) but you can't do a worthwhile 3-4-3 with both him and Aguero in it, the cost in other positions is too severe.

      If you want Zlatan you really need to go to a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 structure with Diomande as 1st sub. 4-4-2 works best but with so few clean sheets it's a non-starter as things stand currently.

      That leaves 3-5-2 which can work because there are so many decent midfield options either side of 7.0 (say 6.3 to 7.7).

      So... either downgrade Zlatan and upgrade Capoue (3-4-3) or downgrade Lukaku to Diomande and upgrade De Roon, perhaps to Walcott. Then Capoue could become someone like Redmond, Chadli or Defour in GW11 when Watford's fixtures worsen and the fixtures for those 3 teams improve. Something like that.

      1. Slam
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Appreciate the response Ruth.
        You're right, my transfer(s) this week will be based on the formation I will choose to play and also how Ibra performs tomorrow.

        Capoue is the worrying bit, he did absolutely nothing today, 0 shots.
        Not sure I want to keep him as my 4th mid any longer if I'm honest.

        Food for thought, cheers.

    6. ZLATAN'S PONYTAIL
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Downgrade Inra to Deeney/Defoe/Rashford and upgrade Antonio to Pool mid. Cout/Mane/Firm

  2. knightrider
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Which mid from Liverpool is best to have!? (Excluding Mane due to funds)

    1. Kante Be Bothered
      10 years, 25 days ago

      milner

      1. polis
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Lallana, Firmino, Coutinho, probably Milner.

        And Mane if you can find the funds.

    2. Epic Fail
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Milner

      1. stachman
        10 years, 25 days ago

        You really believe he can deliver any points apart from penalties?

        1. Epic Fail
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Not really.

  3. Ha.
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Is Milner a viable Liverppol option? I am aware he is over reliant on pens and keep saying that he can't get a penalty every week... But he is.

    1. Syd.
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Only if they keep getting penalties

    2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Honestly I think he might be. Especially in this great run of games coming up. Its just whether U have the balls to give up a space in ur mid, counting on penalties

    3. Jamie_GAWA
      10 years, 25 days ago

      I think it is a bit like the Capoue situation, it won't last

      Cazorla is another one which I don't think will keep going

      Yes they may get the points but you can't predict when

      1. Ha.
        10 years, 25 days ago

        But isn't that the case with the whole of the Liverpool midfield? Best tactic I think is to just pick one and stick, so why not go with the penalty taker?

        1. Camp No No
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Because he's playing POO.

        2. Jamie_GAWA
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Because you are relying on something which is most likely an anomaly, soon teams will adapt to the rules and there won't be as many potentially

      2. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Capoue began as a 5th choice cheap as chips guaranteed starter, let's not forget that the goals were just a bonus

        1. Jamie_GAWA
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Yes exactly and my point is people moved him to a 4th mid and I don't think that was the right move, Nevermind it leaves you with a lack of flexiblilty

    4. Camp No No
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Well, if they get a penalty every week, even every odd week or so, that will be a refereeing scandal.

      1. Ruth_NZ
        10 years, 25 days ago

        4 penalties in 7 games so far. It's unbelievable. Until you realise that Arsenal have had 4 in 6 and City 3 in 6.

        In the first 6 gameweeks of this season 23 penalties were awarded compared to 10 at the same stage last season. If that rate were continued we'd be on target for 140-150 penalties over the whole season. That's 60-70% up on last season when there were 91 penalties. The all-time PL record is 106. It's a significant change of climate.

        Whether it will continue is actually a big question. If it does then much more priority will need to be given to having as many penalty takers as possible in your team. It will also have implications concerning team structure and how we pick defenders.

  4. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    10 years, 25 days ago

    RMT

    Foster

    Vertonghen Williams Stones

    Sánchez Capoue Antonio Sterling Firmino

    Lukaku Aguero

    Subs - Jaku Amat Diomande Kingsley

    2m itb

    Might offload Antonio earlier than expected. Looking at Son, Walcott or even a defence upgrade, maybe bellerin or monreal.

    Looking at this team, what areas should take priority??

    Thnx

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      I'd leave it. It's great

  5. Syd.
    10 years, 25 days ago

    No room in the Inn for Ibra

    Overrated and over priced

    1. Slam
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Overrated?

    2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Basically

      one or the other.

    3. polis
      10 years, 25 days ago

      over priced.

    4. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      lets see if tomorrow changes minds ...

  6. JIM BOB
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Someone earlier mentioned that Ranieri confirmed Slimani is on pens from now on.

    Can anyone else confirm this?

    1. polis
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Yeah, go on then. I'll confirm it too. Why not.

      1. Podge
        10 years, 25 days ago

        😆

      2. Les Bleus
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Haha

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      YES

      1. JIM BOB
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Can you point me in the direction of the article/interview etc?

  7. Jamie_GAWA
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Aguero-Costa-Defoe

    Working well, just as good as the big 3 imo

    1. polis
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Who are the "big three"?

      Surely Costa and Aguero are 2/3rds of that anyway?

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Costa won't see my team sheet even if he scores every week. Ugly trolling FF nightmare

        1. User
          10 years, 25 days ago

          I'll have to wait until he gets his fifth yellow before I consider him, no doubt he'll continue to score until then though.

      2. Jamie_GAWA
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Aguero-Ibra-Lukaku

        1. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 25 days ago

          AND Slimani

        2. polis
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Costa > Kaku in "big three", no?

          Kaku is a lot cheaper, so in theory you should expect slightly fewer points than the other 3.

          Would go Tekkers over Defoe. Palace are better than Sunderland and both are the teams one focal point up top.

          1. Jamie_GAWA
            10 years, 25 days ago

            I don't necessarily mean the most expensive 3.

  8. Dog and Fox
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Would like to det aguero after the break, any ideas? Manda / jaku Evans / vertongen / holebas / pieters / baines Eriksen / firmino / Sanchez / walcot / capoue Lukaku / costa / benteke

  9. stachman
    10 years, 25 days ago

    What would you do with PVA? After Crystal Palace game Moyes gave a hint he can drop him and now he saves him 1 pt... Should I stick with him or give him a boot?

    1. Jamie_GAWA
      10 years, 25 days ago

      What did he say that makes you think he dropped a hint?

      1. stachman
        10 years, 25 days ago

        It was a week ago and he was a bit dissapointed about one of his fullbacks, that didn't defend porperly... It lead to PVA being benched today. No idea what will happen next GW

    2. GREENDREAMS11
      10 years, 25 days ago

      I'm keeping, he has saved Moyes ass today. That was a big goal for them so hopefully Moyes will repay the faith. Maybe he benched him in order to get a reaction. If he did it seems to have paid off.

      1. stachman
        10 years, 25 days ago

        I guess I'll keep as well... But not without worries...:(

        1. GREENDREAMS11
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Yeah, I was pretty annoyed when he didn't start but delighted when I seen he had scored. I was looking at no clean sheets and 8 points or less from 3 defs and my goalie at one point and ended up with 21 from the 4 of them so cant complain. I wouldn't have chosen PVA if I thought he wasn't a certainty to play. I will watch with interest as I am thinking that maybe cheapest of the cheap is the way to go with defenders atm.

          1. Dark_Mata
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 25 days ago

            But there are no decent cheapies

    3. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Didnt he just score?

      1. stachman
        10 years, 25 days ago

        He did... After being benched... Not sure if I won't a 5.0 defender who isn't a regular starter...

  10. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 25 days ago

    How I would absolutely love Ibrahimovic to deliver tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 25 days ago

      -1

    2. Sánchez
      10 years, 25 days ago

      + 4

    3. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      -27

    4. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      I know he will. But I know aguero will too 🙂 so I'm not fussed

    5. Syd.
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Red card

  11. Sánchez
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Best keep duo?
    On wildcard

    1. stachman
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Heaton, Pickford for me

    2. Les Bleus
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Heaton/Boruc and Pickford.

    3. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      HeatPick

  12. Optimus.
    10 years, 25 days ago

    @Epic

    Sanchez being a striker in Sky is annoying, are you bringing him in if you haven't already?

    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Already got him. He was part of a captaincy strategy to save transfers a while back.

      I'd probably get him if I didn't have him already though. Swansea on MD1 next week too. Then 'Boro soon after.

      1. Optimus.
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Nice one, I'm finding it hard to get in having Aguero Lukaku Ibra uptop

        1. Epic Fail
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Not sure if you can afford it, but maybe get rid of Lukaku seeing as he's already played this week and next week he his Man City away, then another away game after that.

          'Sanchez' should outscore him easily to make up for wasting a transfer.

          1. Optimus.
            10 years, 25 days ago

            I think that will be my move, I'm going to do 3 transfers tomorrow and finally rid of Love, I'e been playing with the 10 men the past 4 gws 🙂

    2. Syd.
      10 years, 25 days ago

      A bit of FFS man love

      1. Optimus.
        10 years, 25 days ago

        There's room for another 😉

        1. Syd.
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Tempted but I will leave that space for Jaffoli

    3. HVT
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Fwiw I'm doing that very move, Luka > Sanchez (c)

  13. LewanGOALski
    10 years, 25 days ago

    how did Antonio look today?
    Worth keeping?

    1. Syd.
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Kack

      West Ham are Kack

      Sell

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      5 goals in 7 games.

      1. polis
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Can't see him getting 25 in 35.

        1. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Me neither. But 10 in 35 is still good for a mid priced MF

          1. Camp No No
            10 years, 25 days ago

            You must expect to get more than 5 goals from him in the last 28 matches you have him for. Otherwise not worth having.

            1. polis
              10 years, 25 days ago

              Just meant he won't maintain that rate. Facetious, granted.

              Can just see similar priced players scoring more over the course of said 28 games.

              1. Camp No No
                10 years, 25 days ago

                If he can keep on getting shots like he has so far he is likely to outscore just about any midfielder in the game.

                1. polis
                  10 years, 25 days ago

                  Ifs and buts I guess. Educated punts wherever we turn.

                  Just prefer Wally to him currently, might return to Antonio if WHM's form picks up, but can see Arsenal scoring more, so potential for points is greater for Theo.

    3. polis
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Definitely not a striker. Worried about Hammers, looks like being Payet or bust.

    4. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      West ham just look dodge atm

      Keep but once their run of good fixtures is over, I'm selling!

    5. Camp No No
      10 years, 25 days ago

      A couple of good chances. Could have scored. Not good enough for a forward, but he's listed as a midfielder and on my tables, he still features high. Very high. With that price tag, I don't see why you'd sell him.

      1. polis
        10 years, 25 days ago

        The answer you're looking for here currently is Walcott or Son.

        1. Camp No No
          10 years, 25 days ago

          I don't see how Walcott or Son excludes having Antonio.

          1. polis
            10 years, 25 days ago

            Definitely doesn't exclude there are just an abundance of mid choices. Just more about the space.

            Assuming Sanchez, Sterling, a Liverpool mid etc are in your squad too etc.

        2. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Both those two are rotation risks and current bandwagons. Do you believe they can stay consistent and stay in the team?

          1. polis
            10 years, 25 days ago

            Son is 100% a rotation risk, and I wouldn't go here. But he's a form player, and FF is about finding the form and points.

            I think Walcott could well maintain (ish) and will play fairly regularly. Plus in a team who will score more goals that WHM

  14. b✪mber
    10 years, 25 days ago

    love you Capo - you da best profit on my WC 2 weeks ago.

    1. GREENDREAMS11
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Just a pity he isn't getting you any points

  15. Syd.
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Garcia putting like Stevie Wonder

    1. Les Bleus
      10 years, 25 days ago

      😯

    2. The 12th Man
      10 years, 25 days ago

      More like Ernie Els

  16. lickwidice
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Which non arsenal defender is essential to have for the next 2 weeks?

    1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Cech

    2. Epic Fail
      10 years, 25 days ago

      None

    3. Syd.
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Holebass

    4. Sylas
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Walker

    5. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      no such thing

  17. Wurstmuncher
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Which def should I ditch, Valencia or Coleman? Need funds for Mirrallas upgrade to Son

    1. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Coleman

      1. polis
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Valencia.

  18. Loðbrók
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Any Bournemouth mids worth mentioning for their great run of fixtures?

    1. Les Bleus
      10 years, 25 days ago

      No IMO

    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Yep, Josh King is great value at his price. If IBRA ever becomes essential, JK is a great enabler

  19. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Considering this switch for next GW

    Williams -> Bellerin
    Antonio -> Snodgrass

    For free, worth it?

    1. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      yep

    2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Maybe not the shoddy move but Williams to Hannibal hector, mYbe.

      I say yes to the first no to the second

  20. GREENDREAMS11
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Does anyone have any idea of the average amount of players people still have to play tomorrow ?

    1. Les Bleus
      10 years, 25 days ago

      6 overall, 5 in the top 10k

      https://fpldiscovery.wordpress.com/

      1. GREENDREAMS11
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Thank you

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Well I have 7

      1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Surely U have a lot of fixture clashes. As in ur players playing each other

  21. Dr Dream
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Will Conte carry on with that formation now?.....Willian and Hazard looked really good there in a two behind Costa....Willian more so than Hazard.

    Any thoughts?

    1. Les Bleus
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Was it a 3-5-2?

      1. Camp No No
        10 years, 25 days ago

        More like 3-4-3.

        1. Camp No No
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Willian-Costa-Hazard front line.

    2. Camp No No
      10 years, 25 days ago

      They played Hull though.

  22. Lallana's Bananas
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Heung-Min Son or Michail Antonio? (Sky FF)

  23. JÆKS ⭐
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Based on today's games so far, anything you would change?

    Cech Pickford
    Williams Lovren McAuley Pieters Amat
    Sanchez Walcott Firmino Antonio Fletcher
    Aguero Deeney Lukaku

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Na, that's great

    2. GREENDREAMS11
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Antonio > Son possibly,

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Is son really worth the fuss?

        1. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Is he for instance more desirable than Firmino or Walcott? Is he OOP? I'm yet to see him play

          1. polis
            10 years, 25 days ago

            Long term Firm / Wally > Son.

        2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
          10 years, 25 days ago

          The thing is that Son is no fuss at all.

          7.5 is a great price for him. He has a good eye for goal. And if it goes fits up, more than enough options elsewhere. I'd say he the 3rd most inform mid, behind sterling and Sánchez

          1. Dark_Mata
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 25 days ago

            Cheers

        3. Wurstmuncher
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Son was consistantly in double figures for goals before coming to the premier league, after a dodgy first season he's starting to show that previous form and his stats put him amoung the top midfielders over the last couple of gws, Kane out only helps him. I'll be bringing him in for next game against Brom

      2. JÆKS ⭐
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Idk, watched the first half and he was involved in almost every attack though

  24. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Capoue and Antonio -> Fletcher and Wally

    This seems a great move but I have the exact funds to do it and will probably need to pull the trigger tomorrow. Any thoughts?

    1. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Looked at this myself also, why I didn't just sell Capoue for Fletcher on my wc knowing I will always bench Capoue anyway, I don't know!

      With regard to those to transfers I decided against it, wasting a FT on bench fodder 5th mid is not a good idea, imo. Plus I feel Walcott is a transfer waiting to happen potentially.

  25. TooDifficuIt
    10 years, 25 days ago

    was chambers any good today ?

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Apparently so but I didn't see the game

  26. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Garcia won't need a putter on his next shot 😉

  27. Slam
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Any West Ham fans reckon Collins can keep his place?

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Regardless I'd sell

      1. Slam
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Got bigger fish to fry at the moment, that's why I'm asking.
        If he's playing, I might as well keep him until I get around to changing him as well

  28. Defaid Daniel
    10 years, 25 days ago

    walker/ozil/benteke>clyne/sanchez/wilson over next 3 weeks?

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Y

    2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Si patron

  29. Loðbrók
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Predict how many goals next 5 games:
    A) Callum Wilson
    B) Lukaku

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      2,3

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 25 days ago

        Baps 0,9

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Wilson 1
      Lukaku 4 ( blank vs Man City

      )

    3. Epic Fail
      10 years, 25 days ago

      1
      3

    4. Loðbrók
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Wilson: HULL SPURS mid SUN sto
      Lukaku: manc bur WHU che SWA

    5. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Wilson will start scoring, he's quality. He just won't get the baps or the opportunities Kaku will

      1. Loðbrók
        10 years, 25 days ago

        He got 2Baps today

        1. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 25 days ago

          Ah cool. I hope he keeps it up, he's a good one to have when he's firing

  30. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 25 days ago

    Apart from the assists from the corners, how good was Blind against Leicester? Was he very attacking?

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 25 days ago

      He's a quality player and knows how to cross. He was good yes

    2. ZLATAN'S PONYTAIL
      10 years, 25 days ago

      Yup. Hes such an intelligent footballer. Seems to get in good positions constantly.