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1 October 2016 1791 comments
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Saturday’s early kick-off is a significant one.

Liverpool park up at the Liberty Stadium with their rich array of midfield talent heavily backed by Fantasy managers.

Adam Lallana is the latest flavour of the month – snapped up by 195460 new owners heading into Friday’s deadline, the former Saint will be looking to maintain flourishing early season form.

Phillipe Coutinho is just a few thousand behind his team-mate in terms of transfer traffic this week, as the Brazilian goes on defying his initial price tag to challenge the genuine heavy-hitters.

Both returned double figures in the 5-1 demolition of Hull City but, just maybe, it could be Roberto Firmino’s turn this time around.

Tipped as our weapon of choice heading into the season, we’ve since elevated Sadio Mane above him in our Watchlist rankings.

In truth, at this point, none of us can be certain on the one single member of Klopp’s midfield to target. We’re all hoping that today’s encounter will shed some light on the problem.

That’s presuming that Swansea City have read the script.

Swans’ boss Francesco Guidolin appears to be clinging to his job and that might just spur a determined display – they certainly showed enough against Chelsea and Manchester City to indicate that this will not be an easy afternoon for the visitors.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Woah Antonio playing as a striker

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Sellers to be punished 🙂

    2. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      messes up my planned transfers. he was going for Walcott.

  2. ktk_interista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Rangel conceded the penalty. There should be -ve bps for that.

    1. Bouncebackability
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Now that I agree with. Then again, an unfortunate handball would be treated the same as a brainfart tackle like he carried out today.

    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      It is.... -6

      1. Bouncebackability
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I'll get my coat.

  3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Rangel 37bps

    The system is glitched

    1. Dirty Harry
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ludicrous

  4. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Triple Watford playing today, my GW is over

  5. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Rangel +baps for giving away the game winning PK.

    1. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He gave me a penalty assisted by Firmino. Firmino and Milner owner here. So I am not complaining 😉

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      The baps usually move around after the game . They might change again sooner or later

  6. Arrow Marked Drogba
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    New team same frustrating mane

  7. pax888
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    This gameweek was an anomaly for Liverpool with Lallana brought off injured early in the game!

    When Firmino plays in midfield he does well but when he plays false 9 he is very deep constantly coming back to win the ball back etc and therefore doesn't get big points.

    When he scored twice against Leicester Sturridge played and Firmino played in midfield.

    Normal play will resume next gameweek as Sturridge will be back on the bench.

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Nice straw clutching there bud

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        He isn't really clutching at anything, it;s just facts

        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Facts? Firmino 12 goals and 4 assists in his last 20 Prem matches.

          Pretty sure Sturridge wasn't up top for all those. 🙄

      2. 42towels
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Haha yeah. Can we all agree to stop trying these theories and accept the randomness of the Liv fpl points?

        1. pax888
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          It's just my opinion everyone has their theories and that's mine.

          It's simple and only applies to this season so far but is pretty evident if you watch him in each position.

      3. pax888
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        If Sturridge played every game I'd have Firmino in my team all season but he doesn't and therefore I think Firmino is not one you want as he'll play false 9 for most of the season and therefore won't be in the box enough scoring points.

    2. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I see your points and agree, but why would Sturridge be on the bench again?

      Is Lallana expected back

      1. pax888
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah was only a knock and has 2 weeks to recover.

    3. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      As a Firmino owner, I agree.

    4. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Last season showed he was most effective as a false 9.

      1. pax888
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Last season is last season.

        We weren't considering Theo Walcott last season.

  8. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Rangel didn't even get the assist, it was Van der Hoorn, yet he's on for 2 BPS. Ok FPL...

  9. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    34pts and good from 4

  10. Plymouth
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Can anyone explain the rationale behind Rangel two BAPS? Like, is it because of tackles or what?

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Must be a mistake

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Bonus point allocation for your browsing:

      https://www.premierleague.com/news/106533

      1. Plymouth
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers

  11. The Cloud Watcher
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    So, given all the hype over Firmino, Lallana, Mane, Coutinho, do we risk overlooking Milner as the best Liverpool cover?

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Milner suddenly seems very tempting if doubling up.

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Almost looking like we should double up, get Milner ( for Pens and the odd assist) and one of the others as they could easily get a double points haul on any given gameweek

  12. The Mighty I
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I think the key to owning any of the Liverpool midfielders is patience - each one will prosper but don't go chasing it.

    1. Ravager
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Exactly. Imagine doing Firm> Lallana today especially. Begging for heartache.

    2. suddenorgan
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      the key is getting three of them at once

  13. Licious Lizard
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    LICIOUS LIZARD
    Hey guys,

    I asked this last season as well, but nobody really knew.

    Is there a site/app/feature somewhere, where you can plot in your team and see future "line-ups".

    To see a team similar to the "pick team" tab, but for future GWs with corresponding opponents of each player?

    Thanks a lot !

  14. Puyol Pants Up
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    On WC:

    Lallana + Antonio will now become Firmino + Snodgrass. #KneeJerk

  15. Dr Mantis Toboggan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Mane now the 5th highest scoring Liverpool mid.... hmm.

    1. Dr Mantis Toboggan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Should probably mention I still think hes a great pick.

    2. FALCAO & MOU
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Will be first next week, that's how the game is.

    3. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Hasn't played every game though

  16. Over Midwicket
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Lol at people getting enraged over the BAPs. Just accept it and wait. Don't be greedy, and remember things can change before the points are confirmed.

  17. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Milner 42bps and rangel 37bps

    Maybe a mistake?

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Stop crying and enjoy Firmino's 11 pts.

    2. Fitzy.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      How does Rangel even have an assist? He was clearly not the last one to touch the ball before Fer.

  18. umerlfc
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    And the gameweek going very well, but then Moyes benches Pva. Amat would come on if pva doesn't get minutes

  19. Jonjo Shall_We? (Flowers - …
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Anybody noticed McNair as an attacking mid there
    Also a change in formation for Watford I think, back to 4 4 2 (Capoo derailed?)

  20. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Good lord, Goal and Assist for Firmino and only 1 bonus?

  21. Sourabh
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Antonio false 9 ... I need his brace

    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Not false 9
      Striker

  22. Carlton P
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on 3-5-2?
    Looks more appealing every week
    Firmino, Antonio and Sanchez playing up top anyway
    Let's see how rashford and Capoue/snoddy do today

    1. Long Juan Silva
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Oh dear, oh dear. How this debate never dies I will never know. It's been around for years and 3-4-3 wins every time.

      1. Carlton P
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        So many managers playing a false 9 this season tho, was unheard of in previous seasons

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Looking to gravitate towards this over the next 4/5 weeks. So much depth in mid atm.

    3. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I normally do 3-4-3 most of the time but this year I am chopping and changing it about based on fixtures. If your front 8 are strong then why not

  23. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Coutinho's bap score is pretty impressive without any attacking returns

  24. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Firmino captain 🙂

    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Well done

      1. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. Nice when it pays off

    2. hafakilo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Me too, feels good

  25. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Rangel bonus has to be a glitch

  26. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    3BP Milner 43
    2BP Rangel 37
    1BP Firmino 36

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      What a joke

  27. Kaneyonero
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    If Firmino doesn't get 2 bps then the system is seriously screwed. A goal and assist!!!

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      *3

  28. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Antonio playing up top good news for Payet owners?

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Can't be worse than having Zaza there

    2. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Payet playing is good news for Payet owners. He doesn't depend on Antonio for points. Antonio, on the other hand, depends on Payet for points.

      1. zizoo10
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        "Payet playing is good news for Payet" are you michael owen?

  29. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Firmino vc. I just didn't have the stones to do it

    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Same
      Ibra s going to let me down, I just know it

  30. La Roja
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Milner 4 penos so far. Crikey

    1. Bouncebackability
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      And he is going to get more you'd think.

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      he seems to get 3 bonus everytime he scores them too