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Dugout Discussion – Liverpool vs West Ham United

11 December 2016 3338 comments
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The final match of Gameweek 15 sees Liverpool welcome West Ham United to Anfield in the 4.30pm kick-off.

Both Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino are highly fancied against a Hammers defence that shipped five at home to Arsenal last weekend.

Mane has served up points in five of his six home outings, whilst Firmino will be looking to banish a three-match barren run and return to the form that has already seen him register 15 points in front of his own supporters on two occasions.

Divock Origi looks to score for the fourth successive match in all competitions to strengthen his claim as a mid-price festive frontman.

West Ham, meanwhile, have home encounters with Burnley and Hull followed by a trip to Swansea in the upcoming three Gameweeks.

We’ll be looking for signs of form from Dimitri Payet and the fit-again Michail Antonio, then, while big Andy Carroll is named amongst the subs against his former club, having emerged from the bench to net the Hammers’ consolation against Arsenal last time out.

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  1. SirStevieG
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    GOODBYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FIRMINO. GTFO my tram. Pathetic for the fourth week in a row.

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    1. Wizard of Ozil
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Yea, what the Hell has happened to him. Ever since his bosom buddy Coutinho got injured, he's drifted in to anonymity being all alone on the left.
      My fantasy team has bombed in last two weeks.

      Looks like Zaha will be in to replace him. Likewise, Arnautovic your history.

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    2. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      i swear, i even captained him this week

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    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      prefer trains tbh

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    4. The Left Duke #3
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Couldn't agree more and I'm a Pool fan. Absolutely terrible for that price.

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    5. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Agreed. One of the easiest transfers I've ever made.

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  2. Sarri-ball
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Best defender in game under 5.0

    Got 10.0 for kelly/Lovren replacements

    Jones/brunt or cedric

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    1. InvertedWinger
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Jones

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  3. @persecuted_by_mods
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Best move lads?

      1) Lovren to vertonghen

      2) Firmino to alli

      3) Firmino to mane

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      1. Worzel Gummidge
          9 years, 2 months ago

          2

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          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Cheers, what I wasn't leaning towards

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          2. EmreCan Hustle
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            2

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            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Thanks dude

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            2. Coaly
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Eriksen better than alli

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              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Not for me although eriksen is playing better atm

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                  1. Worzel Gummidge
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Alli outscored him easily last season with a lot less minutes. People just say Eriksen because he scored well in 2 recent GWs and that is al they say plus FKs. Had them last season too and Ali still outscored him. Alli has also scored same amount of goals and assists this season. Just a matter of opinion I suppose.

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              2. Bolivian Seaman
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Can anyone remember what midweek games are like? I remember them to be very high scoring

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                1. Halftime
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Could be rotation, have to be careful to pick a captain that's due to start.

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                2. Greenbackbøøg…
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Everyones tired, lots of clean sheets

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                3. Bolivian Seaman
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Thanks

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              3. Tsumo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Long term (6-10GWs) if money was no option, which two premium defenders would you choose:
                1. 1xChelsea, 1xArsenal
                2. 1xChelsea, 1xManUtd
                3. 1xChelsea, 1xSpurs
                4. 2xChelsea

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                1. InvertedWinger
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  3

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                2. Tomlette Greggs
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  3

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                3. HamezMace
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  I'm going 3....fixtures for spurs

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              4. InvertedWinger
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Firmino to:
                A) Siggy
                B) Eriksen
                C) Payet

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                1. Hurricane Gilbert
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Close between B or C

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                2. EmreCan Hustle
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  A

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              5. Bleh
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Best 5m defender?
                Was going for Cedric but seeing as he didn't play today, leaning towards Darmian.

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                1. CloudSky
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Brunt, Jones, Gibson. Cedric was just rested, should be playing midweek.

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                2. MartialMatas
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  darmian was awful today

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              6. Emiliano Sala
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Having cedric and lovren

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              7. ZakAFC_
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Redmond > Zaha
                Kosc > Alonso? (-4)

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                1. InvertedWinger
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Just the second one. Leave Redmond.

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              8. HamezMace
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Any reason not to bring in Alderweirald?
                No reason he should be rested against Hull?

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                1. EmreCan Hustle
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Alonso. No other reason.

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                  1. HamezMace
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Have Alonso already....I'm investing my Aguero money in a super defence

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              9. Tomlette Greggs
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Which move would you rather?

                A) Firmino & Iheanacho ---> Payet + Origi (-4)

                B) Firmino ----> Eriksen

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                1. Hurricane Gilbert
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  B

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              10. FALCAO & MOU
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                9 baps this week, Azpi, van Dijk, Origi, huge.

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              11. MartialMatas
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Was Firmino really that bad? I was planning on keeping him for a week and then getting mkhi

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                1. Professor Abel X
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Woeful

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                2. Tomlette Greggs
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  he was.

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                3. MartialMatas
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  firmino to eriksen then to mkhi when fit worth it?

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              12. Ravager
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                As much as Firmino annoyed me. Think my personal priority should be to work out my 4th midfielder (Allen).

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                1. InvertedWinger
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Same spot. But Firm to Eriksen gives me enough to do Allen to Siggy next week.

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                  1. Ravager
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    I wouldn't begrudge you for that. I already have Siggy so I can't do that move.

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              13. Professor Abel X
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Best defender up to 6.1?

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                1. The Overthinker
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Rose.
                  Always attacking from left side plus potential Cs in next 2 weeks

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                  1. Professor Abel X
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Rotation risk with Davies?

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                    1. The Overthinker
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      I don't see any reason why rose should be rested.
                      If you want to be safe , verto it is

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                    2. MrInbetween
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Absolutely.

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                    3. Pariße
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Don't say that

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                2. Pariße
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Rose, van Dijk are good options for less

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              14. Revival
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                55 points this week, better than average I suppose. Small green arrow

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              15. S.Kuqi
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Guess I'm the only fool here considering Ayew

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                1. tm245
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  You are not alone.

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                  1. fedolefan
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    I am here with you.

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                    1. WDT
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Though you're far away

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              16. Captain Vantastic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Firmino to Hazard for free?

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                1. The Tinkerman
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Sure

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                2. InvertedWinger
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Yes

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                3. The Overthinker
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Why even think ?

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                4. Captain Vantastic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Thanks guys

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              17. The Tinkerman
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                What are the chances of Mane ban?

                Didn't watch the game... I could finally get Costa in without guilt if he is out.

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                1. Professor Abel X
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Doubt it, Carroll not making a meal out of it means it will go under the radar I reckon

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                  1. The Tinkerman
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Yeah, but rival fans go wild with this stuff on social media though, try to get tabloids onto it. Could easily be in papers tomorrow

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              18. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                This defence. Hopefully that's Lovren done for good. Throwing points away.

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                1. Sims
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  If this was wengers defence he would be destroyed by media

                  But it's ok be coz klopp is passionate and positive

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                  1. jurgenklopp.8
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    I can tell you now we get slated week in week out for our embarrassing defence, and rightly so, but don't be wet.

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                    1. Sims
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Klopp doesn't get blamed. As if he is not responsible for those players

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                      1. jurgenklopp.8
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 2 months ago

                        He does, Merson had a go at him just last week

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                  2. Davido989
                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Liverpool get slated every single week for their defence. Even by us fans. We're not blind.

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              19. andymck
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Who to dump first, Firmino or Son?

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                1. Captain Vantastic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Firmino

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                2. EmreCan Hustle
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Not Son ahead of Hull.

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                3. John Nerdelbaum
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  why dump son?

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                  1. andymck
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Rotation risk

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              20. Sims
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                If mane gets banned he will be out until February because of afcon?

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                1. Captain Vantastic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Why would he be banned?

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                  1. Licious Lizard
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    He hit Carroll during the game. Mark probably didn't see it.

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                  2. Sims
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    He struck a whu player

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                2. The Tinkerman
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  If he is banned for 3, he will get 2 or 3 more games I think.. before AFCON.

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                3. GHB
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Can't as got booked for it

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                  1. Licious Lizard
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    I don't think thitting Carroll was what he was booked for...

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                    1. GHB
                      • 15 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Oh really? Was busy as watching it and came straight after I thought

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                      1. Licious Lizard
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 2 months ago

                        Not for that as I understood it..

                        But he did talk to Mane fairly quickly afterwards, so not sure if he saw something.

                        But I can't remember if FA can ban Mane IF the ref sees something, but doesn't realize how serious it was?

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                        1. GHB
                          • 15 Years
                          9 years, 2 months ago

                          If it was for that he couldn't get banned as can't take retrospective action for something already seen. I know what you're saying depending how serious - but would open a can of worms

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                          1. Licious Lizard
                            • 13 Years
                            9 years, 2 months ago

                            Okay thanks. What is the 4th ref informs the 1st ref about what happened afterwards? In this case let's say Mark had a talk with Mane about it afterwards, because he heard from the 4th ref about it, but couldn't really give the card afterwards.

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                            1. GHB
                              • 15 Years
                              9 years, 2 months ago

                              Well I still think it's a bit corrupt mate if I'm being honest. Like when Sergio got banned earlier in the season. The ref blatantly saw that then there was uproar and he denied seeing it.

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                              1. Licious Lizard
                                • 13 Years
                                9 years, 2 months ago

                                Thanks. Yeah you might have a point.

                                Guess we'll see what happens.

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                  2. jurgenklopp.8
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    no he got booked for something else.

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              21. Nobodinho
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Austin > Origi (-4)?

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                1. EmreCan Hustle
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Yes

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              22. JaydenLFC87
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Is Firmino > Mane for free to sideways if you dont have anything urgent to use it on?

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                1. WDT
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Would suggest a spurs mid/Payet may be the wise move as you'll need to transfer out Mane in a few weeks again (AFCON)

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              23. GHB
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Firminho to Sanchez

                Or keep one more week and do Mustafi to Alderweirald?

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                1. EmreCan Hustle
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Toby. Or both.

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              24. Hurricane Gilbert
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Which is the stronger duo?

                A) Payet & A Smith
                B) Antonio & Bellerin
                C) Eriksen/Alli and Daniels

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                1. The Overthinker
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  B hands down

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              25. TheSteel
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Hope Mane knicks the bonus

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              26. Coaly
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Would like a Mane ban then I can just swap to Sanchez

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              27. Hyperion
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Didn't see the game - can someone tell me what Firmino is playing at getting 1 point?

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              28. InvertedWinger
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                A) Firmino to Eriksen
                B) Allen to Siggy
                C) Do both for -4

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