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Dugout Discussion – Everton vs Liverpool

19 December 2016 3381 comments
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Gameweek 17 delivers one last match for Fantasy managers as Everton entertain Liverpool in the first Merseyside derby of the season.

Adam Lallana arrives at Goodison as the most sought-after target in Fantasy Premier League last week – over 290,000 drafted him in on the back of a 19-point haul at Middlesbrough.

Divock Origi was the number one forward for transfers in ahead of Gameweek 17 – the Liverpool frontman has recovered from a knock and is looking to score for the fifth successive Gameweek.

In terms of FPL captains, Romelu Lukaku and Sadio Mane are the two most popular picks for tonight’s match.

The big Belgian has struggled for form, though, failing to earn points in five of his previous six league outings.

Although he’s flourished at Anfield, Mane has disappointed on the road, serving up six blanks in eight road trips.

Meanwhile, Roberto Firmino – the third most transferred out ahead of Gameweek 17 – will be looking to stop the fire sale and end a run of five straight blanks against a defence with just a single clean sheet in 12 attempts.

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  1. rdamjan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    A. Pieters to Jones
    B. Williams or Lovren to Valencia

    Is Jones nailed now? I think Everton looks better last games, so I dont know if I want to get rid of Williams....

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    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B

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  2. Monkey Hanger
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Koeman whinging about ref, after moaning about Wenger doing same.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Feel lucky as a Lovren owner tbh.

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    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Everton couldn't string 3 passes together - hardly Mike Dean's fault.

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    3. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      What goes around and all that.he had it koeman.

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  3. Danstoke82
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    3 options, please help..

    A) play McAuley (Ars A)
    B) play Amat (WHU H)
    C) McAuley > Jones -4

    ?

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    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      B

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    2. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A - Neither will get a cleanie but McAuley has way greater attacking threat!

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  4. TorresMagic™
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    If 48 is the score needed

    If there are more than 2,097,152 qualifiers then there will be a random draw amongst the lowest scorers to see who qualifies.

    Still a lottery.

    49 should be safe.

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    1. Team Cruel
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      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      When is the next FFS cup? Missed the first one.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        February or March. Current Cup needs to end 1st.

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    2. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sitting on 49 phew

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    3. Gustavo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I have 47 🙂

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    4. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      No worries, I had 36pts.... First time ever I am not in the cup....

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  5. wh2
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Klagan 31
    Mane 30
    Clyne 29

    Will mane get +3 for game winning goal?

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    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Dunno if they already have added that

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      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Done within 2 hours

        Never instant

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    2. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

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  6. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    FPLVIRGIN still here?
    2fts were
    Smith&Kane » Jones&ibra.

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    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Solid moves.

      There are 3 games in quick succession once we hit Boxing Day. The points could quickly rack up.

      Smith playing midfield looked good, but Jones should get a fair few clean sheets.

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      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        You create that account yourself?

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  7. dush64
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Is there a way to download historical stats data from the members area? eg. all of the SoT, chances created, etc, for each player from every game, over the past few years?

    Might as well try some stats modelling rather than my crappy emotional decision making.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Do you really need past years?

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      1. dush64
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        If I'm fitting a model to tons of data, yes 😛

        Basically want to see which variables correlate the best based on past data. I know SoT seems to be a biggie, but there must be others too.

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    2. Smurf
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Past years stats are irrelevant for most teams/players.

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      1. dush64
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        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yep, I know. But I'm more interested in which variables correlate with goals / assists, so from that perspective they're useful.

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  8. stat
      9 years, 2 months ago

      After Kane -> Ibra, is it worth downgrading Defoe to Anichebe to bring in Lallana for Fletcher (all of this for a 4 pt hit)?

      Who will score more points in the next few GWs?
      A) Defoe & Fletcher
      B) Anichebe & Lallana

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    • Pochecinno
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Those saying that Firmino doesn't get in enough goalscoring positions, I can only conclude you didn't watch the game. Or, at least, the second half.

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      1. bojack
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        He had two or three decent chances, wasn't it him denied by Robles?

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        1. Pochecinno
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Yep. Also scuffed a one-on-one before that and had a shot cleared off the line at the end.

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          1. bojack
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            He did. Frustrating for those who still have him. Personally I flogged him for Payet which went well.

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      2. My Name Is Prince
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Those saying Firmino doesn't get in enough goal scoring positions said it based on the games BEFORE tonight's game...

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        1. Pochecinno
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Go through the comments on this article.

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      3. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Do you have him, Poch? If so, are you keeping him?

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        1. Pochecinno
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Yes. I was planning him to Walcott but am now keeping after that performance. He is as imminent as they come.

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          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Same here.

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    • Beavis
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Is there any hot topics or info about how DGWs will fall this year?

      Will there be bumper ones due to FA cup scheduling as it was last year or is it less likely this season?

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Need to wait for the FA Cup to get in full swing before knowing this.

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      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        In the 30s with probably 37 being one.

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        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Thanks TM.

          I can't remember the details but last year the way the quarters were scheduled meant it was a bigger than normal DGW. Do you know if that's the case still?

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 16 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Haven't looked in depth at it. We will all WC before then anyway.

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            1. Beavis
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              • 14 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Yeah that's what I'm getting at. If it's worth it for a DGW and BB combo, or just do it earlier and figure things out.

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              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 16 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Always better to wait.

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                1. Beavis
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Think you've not seen my team / rank.

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      3. Team Cruel
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        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        United and City are guaranteed one (if - or when United beat Hull in the semis)

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      4. FPL_Hazards
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        League cup means DGWs.

        FA cup replays and snow leads to more

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      5. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        GW28 is the one likely to be decimated by the FA Cup QFs - provided (as we normally expect) there's a good smattering of PL clubs still in it. I'd expect 3 DGWs unless the stars align with the LC finalists/FA Cup QFers + opponents.

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        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Nice one, thanks Pasq.

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    • Tronity
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Best midfielder under £10m to replace Redmond with other than Eriksen?
      Leaning towards Walcott. Good move?

      Or should I be focussing on replacing Origi with Costa being suspended? Negredo?

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      1. crikeybruce
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Walcott would be my ideal pick given Arsenal's stonking fixtures!

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      2. Le _ Professeur
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Walcott is a good pick or Rodriguez for a punt

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      3. Jimbo123
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Mkhityran

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    • JaVale McGee
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sadio Mané you're legend!!! My friend was leading with one point before this latch match: Firmino,Lukaku,Coleman,Lallana vs my Origi and Mané.
      93rd minute - Coleman clean sheet and 3 bp.
      He's leading 43-31.
      94th minute- Sadio Mané scores.
      Tied at 37-37 .Waiting for 3 bp .What a mediocre and exciting gameweek.
      Hero Sadio!

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      1. Hy liverpool
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        sadio is love sadio is life 😀

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    • mir
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Anyone know the 3 transfers Mark has done?

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Stones, Kane and another.

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        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Surely he won't knee jerk Kane out so fast?

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 16 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Ibra!

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      2. Pochecinno
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        He's a classic kneejerker which is just as well as he is the main man round here. Can only imagine it all involves getting in Zlatan.

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        1. fedolefan
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          To be fair, hard not to knee jerk Zlatan in, no?

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          1. Pochecinno
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            I'm just saying.

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          2. ChelseaGuy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            I'm going for Benteke even though i have the funds for Ibra 😉

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        2. afcblegend
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I can almost taste the self-satisfied pre-match preamble article

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          1. Pochecinno
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Nah, he's not smug. Just a classic kneejerker

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        3. mir
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Very true. Zlatan in defo for Kane. He did say Toby A was just for 2 games so expect he's out for double up in Chelsea defence.

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      3. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        He said in this much we know that he has Ibra.

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    • Nerazzuro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Do we think Nacho will start against Hull?

      Its either him or Holebas for my last starting spot...

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      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I'm very recklessly hoping he will.

        Pep clearly doesn't fancy him, though.

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    • Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      early captain poll

      A. Hazard vs Bou
      B. Sanchez vs Wba
      C. Ibrahimovic vs Sun
      D. Siggy vs Whu
      E. firmino/lallana vs Stk

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      1. crikeybruce
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        A or C

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        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          This

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      2. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        C

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      3. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        C

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      4. afcblegend
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        A.

        Also, my mama always told me, its CAPS for home, lowercase for away

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    • bojack
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Anyone tempted by Hazard captain next week?

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      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Ibra/Sanchez well over him imo based on form.

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        1. bojack
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I just can't take Ibra doing a Kane on me..

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    • camarozz
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Jaysus I was 2.64 m game rank before tonight.
      3 points from Firmino tonight.
      I'm not going to qualify for cup am I??
      An all time low.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        no

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      2. My Name Is Prince
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Same here mate! It sucks!

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      3. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Time for some differentials?

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    • williamjames
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Current team:

      Foster / Pickford
      Azpilicueta / Jones / Ward / Pieters / Amat
      Sanchez / Siggy / Hazard / Mane / De Roon
      Kane / Benteke / Origi

      Ibra for Kane -4... is it worth it?

      Debating to wait till next week or now..... any help wanted

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      1. Kane Train
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Should of done it already if you were going too. He is about to rise. Do it now

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    • Sharpe Shuffle
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Smalling came on for a 1 minute cameo v West Brom. Phil Jones too risky of a pick now? I'm thinking I should just fork out for Valencia since he is the most nailed on

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      1. Karan_G14
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Longer term Valencia is the safer bet.

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      2. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I think jones has it over smalls right now.

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      3. Partick Bateman
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Exactly what I'm thinking. My piste poor defence needs a 5+ er.

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      4. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Someone on here said Bailey is back as well ... is that true?

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        1. Sharpe Shuffle
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          FPL says he's due back next game. Will be gone for AFCON in Jan

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    • FPL_Hazards
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Is it just one game to get through for those on the tightrope?

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      1. My Name Is Prince
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yes

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    • davies
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Best midfielder from GW20 under 6.0?

      Really hope Zaha doesn't get selected

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      1. Kane Train
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        when will we find out if he gets selected

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        1. davies
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          No clue

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      2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Phillips not a bad alternative. Phillips + Tekkers might work, Zaha + Rondon another option.

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    • FootballManiac
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Is diamonde nailed?

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      1. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        No

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    • Garlana
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Was lms safety score for gw 15 , 33 points? I seem to have been removed from the league so I'm trying to see which week I made it too.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        http://torresmagic.webs.com/lmsupdate.htm

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        1. Garlana
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Hey, thanks for this, I was actually getting my info from here, unless I'm reading it wrong 33 points were the safety score? I got 36 so I'm struggling to figure out where I went out , :-\

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        36(-4)

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        1. Garlana
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Ahhh thanks...So close...This pains me.

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    • Big_Bear
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      What do you think of:
      Eriksen and Lloris for Heaton and Hazard?

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      1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I think you need to log out

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      2. Baz
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        assuming thats the other way round. looks okay

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    • Junior ⚽
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Jones will be a rotation risk. Bailly will be used before AFCON. Smalling will get game time and Rojo too.
      I'm waiting for now.

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Jones is a Jose type of player. Also Jose doesn't rotate much once he has a settled and performing team, especially in defence.

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      2. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Don't know about rotating CBs.

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      3. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Get Valencia attacking potential

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      4. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        At most he loses 1 GW from Xmas rotation. He's in too good form to drop or even heavily rotate.

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    • Vatroslav
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I can't wait for YMA's captaincy article, I just can't seem to decide on a captain next GW. Have Sanchez, Hazard, Ibra, Firmino, also thinking of going maverick with Alonso...

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    • Knowledgeable meerkat
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Welcome back zlatan Ibrahimovic.

      Here's the captain's armband. Use it wisely.

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    • DeeGee
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      a) Siggy + Nacho > Llorente + Lallana for -4

      or

      b) Nacho > Origi

      0.1 itb. 1 FT.

      Sold Firmino last week and without pool cover presently.

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    • ANON.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      1ft, 0.4 in the bank.

      A. Kane + Eriksen to Benteke + Sanchez -4
      B. Save

      Heaton, Pickford
      Alonso, Cedric, Holebas, Evans, Amat
      Hazard, Mane, Eriksen, Walcott, Fletcher
      Ibra, Kane, Origi

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    • davies
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Valencia worth the extra?

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      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Think so

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