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Dugout Discussion – Everton vs Liverpool

19 December 2016 3381 comments
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Gameweek 17 delivers one last match for Fantasy managers as Everton entertain Liverpool in the first Merseyside derby of the season.

Adam Lallana arrives at Goodison as the most sought-after target in Fantasy Premier League last week – over 290,000 drafted him in on the back of a 19-point haul at Middlesbrough.

Divock Origi was the number one forward for transfers in ahead of Gameweek 17 – the Liverpool frontman has recovered from a knock and is looking to score for the fifth successive Gameweek.

In terms of FPL captains, Romelu Lukaku and Sadio Mane are the two most popular picks for tonight’s match.

The big Belgian has struggled for form, though, failing to earn points in five of his previous six league outings.

Although he’s flourished at Anfield, Mane has disappointed on the road, serving up six blanks in eight road trips.

Meanwhile, Roberto Firmino – the third most transferred out ahead of Gameweek 17 – will be looking to stop the fire sale and end a run of five straight blanks against a defence with just a single clean sheet in 12 attempts.

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  1. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Current standings for attacking stats for the last four matches played as oppose the last four game weeks. Top one seems like he might be a good diff.
    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/12998/

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    1. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lovely. Cheers!

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  2. Pariße
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is Phil Jones nailed?

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    1. Connor's Calling
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      not 100% with Smalling back, but good enough i'd say.

      worth getting if needed

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      1. Pariße
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I think I'm getting him considering I've got enough cover. Thanks 🙂

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    2. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Not with Smalling and Bailly lurking

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      1. Pariße
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        When does Bailly leave for Afcon?

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        1. Licious Lizard
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          It starts on the 14th of Jan.

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          1. Pariße
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Alright, but they leave earlier than that, I imagine.

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            1. Licious Lizard
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Definitely. But United's last PL game before AFCON is on the 2nd...

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              1. Pariße
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                I see. Never knew Jones' been starting for the last 7 gameweeks now, seems to have built on fitness. Thanks for the help, I'll definitely monitor the injury situations of Shaw and Bailly.

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                1. Licious Lizard
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  Don't get me wrong. I definitely think there is a risk he will be rotated for a game. Still at 4.8 I took the chance, but that was before this GW though.

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                  1. Pariße
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 3 months ago

                    Yeah, I think it's probably not too late to get him. He's playing at a top 6 club with nice fixtures and Moutinho in charge, it seems there's a lot to gain and little to lose, he's still 4.8m. 🙂

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                    1. Licious Lizard
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 3 months ago

                      That's my thinking. Not the end of the world, if he will be benched for a game or loses his spot even.

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                      1. Pariße
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 3 months ago

                        Exactly, all my other defenders are regulars, so no worries there.

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  3. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Philips or Zaha? (long term)

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    1. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Zaha

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      1. Licious Lizard
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Zaha may be off to AFCON soon. Starts on the 14th.
        Phillips' fixtures clear up around that time too.

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        1. Sauzée
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Ah totally forgot! I thought he had declared for England

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          1. Pariße
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            He's got 2 apps for England. Was his request to FIFA to switch to Ivory Coast approved?

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  4. b✪mber
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Good evening ppl. Haven't been around and didn't watch a lot of games these past 2-3 weeks. I got a question that's probably been asked a lot:

    Who are the popular targets for Iheanacho? Got 7M to work with.

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  5. Elijah's Wood
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Iheanacho dropping in price tonight.

    A) bring in Benteke (-4)
    B) save, play vs hull, but get priced out of bringing in Benteke in the near future

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    1. b✪mber
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      If you really like Tekkers and will be priced out than go for him - take the hit

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    2. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A

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    3. Elijah's Wood
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Didn't know whether decisions being made due to price changes is worth points, but thanks both

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      1. Pariße
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I've done that 2 weeks ago, terrible decisions...but to be fair I was a little pissed from losing 0.2m by doing Aguero to Kane a day too late. 🙂

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  6. Kurtinho
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Seem to be getting green arrows followed by reds. Hovering between 20k - 60k these last few weeks.

    Pickford
    Alonso - Lovren - Brunt
    Sanchez - Hazard - Payet - Eriksen
    Lukaku - Kane - Origi

    Jaku; Amat, Pieters, De Roon
    0ITB + 1FT

    Thinking of Payet + Kane > Walcott + Ibra for a hit. Yay or nay?

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  7. Mulla
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Bit boring but...

    Play
    De Roon (bur) in a 3-5-2

    or

    Amat (WHU) in a 4-4-2

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    1. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      de roon

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    2. Kurtinho
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Probably Amat. More chance of a cleanie than attacking points from De Roon. He's hit his quota for the season.

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      1. Mulla
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Interesting, I would normally favour the attacker, but WHM are hardly bursting with goals atm, prob flip a coin job I reckon

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        1. Licious Lizard
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Swansea aren't bursting with clean sheets either 😉
          Probably Amat 1 point, De Roon 3 points.

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          1. Mulla
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            This could be the turning point of my season, a pivotal moment where it all changes for the better...or not.
            Just did Kane/Capu »»»Ibra/De Roon so I prob should play the chap in fairness lol

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            1. Licious Lizard
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Doesn't matter when you got him I would say. Would still prefer his point potential over Amat's - even though it is probably a 0-2 point swing.

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              1. Mulla
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                I'm not exactly flush with choice anyway since my bench has Costa & Ake on it, leaning towards De Roon anyway and hope for the best -_-

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  8. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Rumours are that Victor Lindelof will be United's player as soon as transfer window is opened.

    He plays as CB so that makes even more harder to decide if I should get Jones.

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    1. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He looked fairly assured at the Euros.

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    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      yeah... in Portugal that are the rumours too, but we never know if it's true

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    3. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He's very overrated and according to the rumors they'd be paying 45M euros, which doesn't make much sense considering he has a 30M euros release clause. He could be the new Mangala, although he's always looked better than that.

      Hard to tell if he'd be put in the starting 11 right away coming from the portuguese league.

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        well, Rojo did it.

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        1. Frank Black
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Rojo joined United in the summer not in the middle of the season with no time to adjust(and also in the middle of the winter).

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    4. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      So you would still get Jones and be confident about that?

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      1. Frank Black
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I think your biggest concern with Jones is not if they sign a new CB but how much rotation there's going to be plus the fact that he's VERY injury prone.

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        1. Dušan Citizen
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Fair enough.

          Not sure if I should get him, Holebas, Boro def or wait some time and get Baines.

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  9. flippetyflop
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    uth Kane and Gundogan to Jones, Ibra and Allen good for a -8?

    De Gea pickford

    Holebas Walker Huth Cedric McCauley

    Sanchez Firmino Gundogan De Roon Siggy

    Kane Costa Origi

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  10. Frank Black
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Don't know whether i should do Costa to Ibra now or keep the FT in case Rose misses the next game. I don't want to play with Fuchs or Smith...

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  11. Ragabolly
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone still holding on to the first WC? I still have mine and tentative plan is to use it as late as possible to get back Aguero and Costa..

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    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You must use your wildcard before december 30. Plan moves now do them after gw 18

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    2. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sounds like a good idea.

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  12. L9
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    ibra to kane or show faith to kane? ibra might be rested?

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    1. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I REALLY can't see Mourinho resting him.
      Very important now and they need wins. Read his comments from the other day.

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    2. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I think Ibra is going to get rested between Middlesbrough and West Ham but i'd keep Kane for one more GW.

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    3. L9
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      haha so difficult dilemma.. i am getting priced out for ibrs tonight..

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      1. L'Aeroplanino
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        do it

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  13. nick_pkt_12
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Really need some help here: 0.5 ITB and 2 FT but willing to make it 3 for -4

    Foster (Jaku)
    Lovren, Walker, Alonso (Smith, Nyom)
    KDB, Eriksen, Hazard, Siggy, Allen
    Deeney, Origi (Costa-suspension)

    Was thinking of losing Hazard for Sanchez....I know I need to lose Deeney but I don't know if I just get Llorente for him or somehow get Ibra in.

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  14. The Overthinker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    FirmiNO !!!
    What to do?

    Heaton
    Azpi-alonso-holebas
    Sanchez-siggy-firmino-Phillips-capoue
    Ibra-defoe

    Sub - jaku,pieters,francis,costa

    A)firmino,francis out, Walcott ,bellarin in?
    B) firmino,defoe out - Ramirez,lukaku in with 1.5 ITB
    C) keep firmino (LOL)

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    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      C

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    2. Najoman86
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      C

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  15. Swanny18
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Iheanacho to Benteke for a hit? Will be priced out if I don't do it tonight

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    1. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yes will be a good long term move.

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    2. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Nah

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    3. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Do it, he has good fixtures.

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  16. ♤TeddyBear♤
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    120 points behind my ML leader. Do you guys think this is even possible to catch up? Looking like I will need one hell of a DGW

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    1. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yes

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    2. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Definitely there is still half a season left!

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      1. ♤TeddyBear♤
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks for the vote of confidence!! All the players at the top have a TV of less than 102... and im rocking 105 but can't beat them

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        1. Sauzée
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Should come in handy in the second half of the season chief, you'll have that advantage.

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    3. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      It's only just over 5pts per GW you need to make up.

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    4. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      yes

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    5. Knowledgeable meerkat
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      If he can get 120 points clear in 19gws, you can catch up by 120 points in the remaining 19 gws

      A few good weeks for you and that gap will become considerably smaller

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    6. ♤TeddyBear♤
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Game face is on for the next 19 weeks now

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    7. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Certainly possible. Half the season to go

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    8. b✪mber
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm top of my money ML but the guy that's currently in 2nd was trailing 120 pts 6GWs ago... Now he's only 20 behind. I'm not worried at all since his the definition of "a casual", but just illustrating that it can be done.

      He added Eriksen 4 GWs ago to his season long double of Walker+Rose... that Spurs trio in the past 4GWs has been superb.

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  17. chilli con kone
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Beat one week punt?

    A. Bats (BOU)
    B. Nacho (hul)

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    1. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A

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    2. ♤TeddyBear♤
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Bats out of those 2. Although I do think Carroll will bag a couple this week

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  18. Schwarzer
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Would you do these for a free?

    A) Cedric (TOT) > Jones (SUN)
    B) Kane (sot) > Ibra (SUN)

    Cheers

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    1. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      B

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  19. CarsonYeung
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Random question - is it possible to save a working link to your gameweek history after the season ends and look back at it again after FPL change the website for the new season?

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    1. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm not sure tbh, but I would hardly think so. Just take a screenshot of your GW history or whatever you want to save.

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    2. Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No

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    3. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      ctrl+s if i remember, it saves the page on your computer

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        ah.. but don't let you acess to another links, like particular gws

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      2. Grounderz
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        He said after FPL changed the website for the new season. Regardless, all links will be removed and replaced. Before the site is upgraded or reset for the new season, old data is remained for at least a month.

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        1. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          not this? http://i.imgur.com/4dLSVeV.png

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    4. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No, can't be done. Only way is to take screenshots.

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    5. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Don't think so. I took screenshots last season

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    6. CarsonYeung
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers everyone, I just thought it would be interesting if I could compare how I was doing at this stage during this current season versus other seasons etc.

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      1. Licious Lizard
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        It really is a shame that they don't let you access you GW history. I did it myself last year. Quite fun to see how you fared at this point last year.

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        1. CarsonYeung
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          I'm thinking about starting a spreadsheet and just inputting the interesting data myself.

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  20. kalmoffit
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone see how Chadli played this week?

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  21. Aston-villain
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Has OR been updated?

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  22. Sauzée
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Wow just saw Douglas Costa's goal vs Darmstadt. Screamer!

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  23. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Oh man, so close to a perfectly played AoA chip. De Roon has been sitting on my bench for weeks waiting to shine against Swansea at home!

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/15651/event/17

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  24. Legomane
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Heaton (MID)
    Valencia (SUN) Alonso (BOU) Smith (che)
    Sigurdsson (WHU) Mane (STK) Sanchez (v) (WBA) Eriksen (sou)
    Origi (STK) Kane (sou) Ibrahimovic (c) (SUN)

    Pickford (mun) de Roon (bur) Collins (swa) Pieters (liv)

    1. Save, G2G
    2. Origi > 6.8
    3. Eriksen > Walcott

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    1. Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I did 3.
      We have very similar teams...only other difference is Origi is Benteke in my case

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      1. Aston-villain
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I needed the money to get Ibra tho and I didn't want 2 spurs players and no arsenal cover

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    2. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Save it. Eriksen's only blanked once. Before that, I was wishing I'd done Wally to Erik. Worth giving him another couple of weeks

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  25. The Overthinker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    RP

    Heaton
    Azpi-alonso-holebas
    Sanchez-siggy-firmino-Phillips-capoue
    Ibra-defoe

    Sub - jaku,pieters,francis,costa

    A)firmino,francis out, Walcott ,bellarin in?
    B) firmino,defoe out - Ramirez,lukaku in with 1.5 ITB
    C) keep firmino?

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  26. The Overthinker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    How was firmino in the derby?

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    1. ♤TeddyBear♤
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He's going through on of those spells.... shot cleared off the line too

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    2. Pariße
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Missed a good chance, should've scored. Didn't see much of the rest of the game though.

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    3. Sauzée
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Dross. In the first half in particular there were so many misplaced passes.

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    4. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Worth keeping him for Stoke ?

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    5. Elijah's Wood
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He was quite attacking I thought, his performance isn't nearly as bad as what's made up because he's blanking. Should have scored a couple, Mane was luck to have the ball bounce his way from Sturridge's shot otherwise it would have been Firmino's

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    6. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers guys.

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  27. MartialMatas
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    How does my team look?
    Anything worth a hit?

    Heaton
    Jones Holebas Alonso
    Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Siggy
    Ibra Kane Iheanacho

    Pickford de Roon Amat Pieters

    0.5ITB 0FT

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  28. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What the hell is wrong with my team? It just isn't bringing home the bacon!!

    Pickford Grant
    Walker Cedric Holebas Evans Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Siggy Fletcher
    Defoe Ibrahimovic Costa

    Will Defo be keeping Costa.

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    1. Pariße
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      It was a terrible week of football (one of the worst in my life), your team looks good and will get you points in the near future.

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers Parisse. It always looks promising but then it just never seems to happen.
        Captaining someone who actually gets points seems to be my problem at the moment

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        1. Pariße
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          This has been my problem this week also, I captained Kane twice. It was reasonable to buy him, but just didn't work out.

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          1. FF Dirtbag
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Exactly the same. Think I might stick to some trustworthy people to captain instead.

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            1. Pariße
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Sanchez maybe? 🙂 He looks the obvious pick in my team (I don't have Ibra as you do), but I recall Wenger saying Sanchez will get a rest during the Christmas period, so I really don't know what to think now.

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              1. The Overthinker
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                Sanchez is the best captain for any week.
                Whatever arsenal does, he is always there.
                I had Sanchez captain in last 2 weeks when mass went with Kane . And I am pretty happy about it

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                1. Pariße
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  It's seems like I'm the one who overthinks stuff, not you 😉

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              2. FF Dirtbag
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                It's all just a mess ha! Will be Ibra for a while. He has nearly a goal a game at the moment. Similar to Costa so it's him especially va Sunderland

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                1. Pariße
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  Definitely. I'd captain him in your place too.

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      0FT and like 0.4m in the bank

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  29. jia you
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Amat off the bench for 1 point , deRoon second sub (10 points), but can't complain decent score of 61(-4) on here.
    It has been a tough week for Ibraless teams on FFS I would imagine. Better luck this week all!

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    1. Knowledgeable meerkat
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yes I didn't own Ibra this gw. Thanks for your support at this difficult time....

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      1. jia you
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        A knowledgeable meerkat will always bounce back 🙂

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  30. Tupac
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Everyone the average is 47!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Scored 5 above average. 😛

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      1. Tupac
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Looks like we both qualified

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        1. The Overthinker
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Yes. Good luck

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    2. Pariße
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A lot of dead teams with Ibra (C), I imagine. Top 10k probably haven't scored much more than that this gameweek.

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      1. jia you
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        yeah with 61 I jumped approx 40k places from just outside 100k to 63k

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