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Dugout Discussion – Watford vs Tottenham Hotspur

1 January 2017 1964 comments
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Sunday brings the curtain down on Gameweek 19 with two more matches before the following round of fixtures gets underway tomorrow.

First up, we make up way to Vicarage Road, where Spurs are looking to take advantage of a Watford defence that’s failed to keep a clean sheet in eight league encounters.

Christian Eriksen and Dele Alli both served up double-figure tallies on their midweek travels in a 4-1 win at Southampton – the Dane now has 10+ points in four of his last six.

With a total of 10 points accrued over the last four fixtures, Harry Kane, meanwhile, is second only to Romelu Lukaku for transfers out this Gameweek as the scramble to acquire Sergio Aguero ahead of City’s clash with Burnley picks up pace.

The Hornets have netted just once in the previous three but with clashes against Stoke, Middlesbrough, Bournemouth and Burnley in the subsequent five, Walter Mazzarri’s men have a chance to play their way into our plans.

Certainly, the home side will fancy their chances against a defence that’s devoid of suspended pair Kyle Walker and Jan Vertonghen after both toppled off the Suspension Tightrope last time around.

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  1. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    PL only

    Sanchez at Arsenal: 41 goals in 82 games
    Hazard at Chelsea: 50 goals in 156 games
    Costa at Chelsea: 46 goals in 72 games
    Aguero at City: 112 goals in 163 games
    Ibra at Utd: 12 goals in 18 games
    Kane at Spurs: 59 goals in 97 games
    Lukaku at Everton: 53 goals in 122 games

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  2. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    The Kane hate on here was so, so strong. They all can't get double digits every single GW.

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    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Exactly. Stick with them - they will all deliver over the season.

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      1. DF
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        You won't do very well in fpl if you do that. You should be looking for 2300+ points. Impossible to achieve by holding players during blanks. You have to move between patches of form

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        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Incorrect.

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          1. DF
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Talk me through it

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            1. diesel001
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Google Optimal Dead Squad Analysis and have a look at it. You can win FPL by choosing a squad in GW1 and just leaving it. Obviously very unlikely in practice, but it shows the value of patience - players who perform should be kept - you can't look at one week performance.

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              1. DF
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                I disagree. Teams need to be actively managed to generate enough points to break into the top numbers. Clean sheets need to be hunted down. Captains must be selected weekly. And top players have to be sold and bought back as their form and fixtures fluctuate. It's the active management that takes a team from 1900+ to 2300+

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                1. diesel001
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  As I said - google the articles - they are FFS articles so not some made up rubbish.

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                  1. DF
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Just read it. Fascinating. Cheers for that.

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                    1. diesel001
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      As I said - show some patience. There is way too much kneejerking - Kane out because he blanks a couple of weeks. Ibra out because he blanks for two weeks. Lukaku out because he blanks against Hull etc. Fair enough if they are injured, banned or rested then transfer them. But these players are class players whose records show they deliver..

                      Patience is rewarded over a 4/5/6 week period IMO. Of course you need some active management in reality, but these one week analyses are pretty high risk IMO. Worst for me is people taking hits every week off the kneejerking.

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        2. bojack
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Spot on.

          When Kane blanked in successive "easy" home games it was damaging for owners.

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        3. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Have a look at the optimal dead team squad analysis - it shows that you can generally beat the best performing FPL manager by making no hits and choosing the right players from GW1. Obviously the likelihood of that happening is very low, but it shows that patience in this game can be rewarded - you can't look at a one week performance. If there was a player who performed literally every week they would be valued at £15m and everyone would have them.

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          1. XabiAlonso
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            That isn't possible this season as all the expensive players are doing well.
            A good article none the less

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            1. diesel001
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              I think that shows the value of patience even more. Stick with a few players who will deliver. Are Aguero, Ibra, Kane and Costa all going to massively outscore each other? Fair enough when they are banned or injured then take them out. But likelihood is that they will all score a similar number of points. Better to focus on maximising performance over a 4/5/6 week period and keep reassessing.

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    2. Ridcully
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I've resigned to missing out on some big points hauls, you can't have them all. You could now bring Kane in for Ibrahimovic, Ibrahimovic scores a hat trick in three weeks time, and you are back where you were again. Just be patient. People are disappointed because they sold whoever's done well.

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  3. JJO
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    For everyone feeling fantasy depressed

    This December is worst month is my fantasy career
    Im gonna fall from 50k to outside the 500k(maybe even more)
    My December rank will be outside top 3m
    My current gw points is 15
    Oh I forgot I have Nyom and Holebas coming on from bench,so its actually 14

    Sometimes the only thing you coud do is to laugh

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Oh wow. Onwards and upwards.

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      1. JJO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I will need lots of upwards to get back to my feet again 🙂

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    2. JJO
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      With this Ars lineup now I m even sure that Alexis will do nothing
      Maybe that top500k was my wish
      I ll be outside 750k 🙂

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  4. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Any baps for Eriksen?

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    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      One, mayyyyybe two

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Much needed.

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        1. Numb
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Holebas could steal the 2 though

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    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      No, unless he scores

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  5. Bleach †
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Would you play Chambers vs LEI or Pieters vs WAT? 🙂

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    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Both!

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      1. Bleach †
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Not keen on playing with 4 defenders, and have Alonso and Brunt already.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Pieters.

      Attacking threat against a worse side.

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    3. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Chambers probably. Watford are a middling team - but the Top 6 are smashing everyone other than themselves at the moment so you can't read too much into the result today.

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    4. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Slightly, leaning to Pieters.

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  6. Who Ate All Depays?
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Grant
    Walker / Alonso / Jones
    Sanchez / Haz / Siggy / Lallana
    Costa / Zlatan / Origi
    (Pickford / Holebas / Fletcher / Amat)

    A) Siggy -> Philips
    B) Siggy & Holebas -> Philips & Brunt
    C) Fletcher & Origi -> Philips & Barnes
    D) Fletcher & Walker -> Philips & Ake
    E) any other suggestions

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    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      B if its free! If not, just A.

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      1. Who Ate All Depays?
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        yes 2 FT

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    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      All good- depends on your long term plan- $itb for Kun. Thinking about Brunt but just realized I have to get rid of Fletcher or McCauley since I have Phillips. Who knew West Brom would dominate my line up?

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    3. Butlanding
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      A

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  7. cyclopropane
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone on the CAPTAIN PHILLIPS bandwqagon

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    1. greghammer95
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Was prior to this week

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    2. Danstoke82
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Tempted I must admit

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    3. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      no

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    4. Clifford☯
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Tom Hanks

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  8. Danstoke82
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    I'm not usually one to Wildcard so early but the below WC team is tempting me immensely. Should I?

    Current;

    Heaton
    Alonso Jones McAuley
    Sanchez Hazard Mane Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Costa

    Subs; Pickford Ake Amat Anichebe

    £0.5ITB

    Potential wildcard team;
    Heaton
    Baines Jones Ake
    Sanchez Hazard Lallana Phillips
    Ibra Costa Kane

    Subs; Grant Evans Amat De Roon

    £0.1ITB

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    1. MTPockets
        9 years, 5 months ago

        No

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      • Jay_
          9 years, 5 months ago

          No way in the world is the first team worth wildcarding. Just do Mane to Alli next week and get Rose or Baines in with cash and you're sweet

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          1. Danstoke82
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Brill feedback many thanks mate

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      • Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Very disappointed in Eriksen today

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        1. Speédy
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          +1

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        2. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Should be happy IMO. Over the last 3 GWs has done well. He can't hit it every week - if he did he would be valued at £15m and everyone would have him.

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        3. Fred54
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Fixtures looks boss though. Although annoyingly I don't own Lalanna and Alli is cheaper...

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      • EDEN THE MAN
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Did Kane to Aguero this week.

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      • Ange Ball
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I'm loving fantasy 2017

        Kane 2 goals assist

        Ozil no show which I had feeling I have Philips 13pts off the bench thank you very much.

        All that's needed is now Sanchez blank and bellerin assist and clean sheet.

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        1. Les Bleus
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          I hope Sanchez goes absolutely mental.

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          1. Hurricane Gilbert
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            +1

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          2. dcarlito
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            This.

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      • faulksp
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Ibra & Toby out

        Aguero & 5.4 defender in

        4 point hit

        Then c Aguero tomorrow

        Yay or nay .....

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        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Nah

          Ibra could have had another haul yesterday if it wasn't for a rubbish ref. The man is on fire

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        2. Shultan
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Ibra is on form, kun didnt do much yesterday! I wouldn't recommend it

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        3. JustPark
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Doubt Aguero start tomorrow.

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          1. faulksp
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            You think nacho ?

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        4. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Keep Ibra

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      • EDEN THE MAN
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Did Kane to Aguero this week. 🙁

        Pickford-Heaton
        Holebas-Ake-Alonso-Pieters-Amat
        Sanchez-Hazard-Lallana-Siggy-DeRoon
        Aguero-Costa-Rondon

        0.1itb. thoughts? How can I get some Spurs in there. Please Help.

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        1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Spurs have tough fixtures. You could probably live without for a couple of weeks.
          Or hazard to Alli.

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      • Guardtrolla
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        What's the chances of Walcott to play next GW? What's his situation anyway?

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        1. Rainer
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Reckon he'll play the FA Cup game, not the next league one.

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        2. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Not fit enough for the bench, doubt he'll be ready in 2 days time.

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        3. dcarlito
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Minor calf injury.

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        4. Guardtrolla
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks guys!

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      • Jay_
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Goallllll Watford

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        • Annie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          CS gone, yes

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        • Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Rose CS gone. 😎

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          1. jam
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Rose was subbed

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          2. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Rose went off subbed so he'll still get CS points.

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        • Rainer
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          No Spurs CS 🙂

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        • Pompel
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Total of 4 points from 3 defenders + GK - what a joke

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        • More Tragic
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          You have to feel for Eriksen owners today.

          Plays the full 90 and gets 2 points.

          lulz

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        • Les Bleus
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          1 less Eriksen point.

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        • Mr Arsenal
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          1 more Bap for Ali. Thank you Watford!

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        • Danstoke82
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Very Spurs that.

          CS gone.

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        • Cebolinha
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Loris OG?

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        • Optimus.
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Watford goal

          Lukaku claiming it

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        • Revival
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Who the hell is Claiming that goal do?

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        • D0GS B0110XS FC
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          snograss or zaha for this week only?

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        • Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          lol

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        • TaiwanHC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Firmino to Alli, go or no go?

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          1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            For free? Yep.

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            1. TaiwanHC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Liverpool are playing Sunderland and Spurs are playing Chelsea next GW. Still go? I have Lallana.

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              1. Emp
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                no way dont be mad

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                1. TaiwanHC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  What?

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              2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Liverpool and Tot both have some tough matches in January. It is a coin flip!

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          2. AA33
              9 years, 5 months ago

              After GW 20.

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          3. Rainer
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Eriksen CS gone

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            1. Lawrø
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              *flips table*

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            2. Odikostar
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              But not alli's :))))

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