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21 January 2017 2575 comments
Mark Mark
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A day for differentials.

Liverpool’s Roberto Firmino and West Bromwich Albion’s Gareth McAuley are the only two players with more than 10% ownership to hit double-digits.

Firmino was teetering on the edge prior to the today’s deadline – owned by just over 456,000 FPL managers or 10.6% – the Brazilian had shed 340,000 since Gameweek 16.

Such losses are understandable, sparked by a dismal run of paltry returns. A single goal over ten barren Gameweeks – his strike in a 4-1 victory over Stoke City – did little to stem a tide of rejection. With Sadio Mane and Adam Lallana thriving, Firmino owners were switching allegiance or looking elsewhere as rival heavy-hitters delivered.

Today’s 14-points will reverse matters, for now at least. That fifth double-figure haul for Firmino ironically arrived on a day that saw Philippe Coutinho make a return to the Liverpool starting line-up. Withdrawn on 65 minutes, his comeback was curtailed as he gave way to allow his compatriot to take centre-stage.

While his two goals were not enough to save Liverpool from defeat, Firmino’s own Fantasy stock is revived, just as thousands were making or considering the move for his Brazilian team-mate.

But Coutinho’s early withdrawal has already proved enough to give some early adopters the jitters. Meanwhile, after suffering a third successive blank, Lallana has now returned just a single goal and an assist in six starts.

Based on early transfer activity, both are facing ownership losses over the extended gap to Gameweek 23, with this shifting affection from one Liverpool asset to another typical of behaviour this season.

Two prolonged spells of form from Coutinho’s and Lallana have come close to resolving the argument but, in truth, we look unlikely to ever settle on one of Klopp’s midfield as a dependable “solution”.

Perhaps the key question should be whether we should overlook them altogether.

Two draws and a defeat has stalled the Liverpool title bid, while over the last four Gameweeks, their attacking numbers are settled in mid-table. They face Chelsea next.

Sadio Mane’s absence appears to be a key factor and, arguably, until his return, we should reserve judgement, regardless of Firmino’s flurry.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Egg noodle
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Buy Rose Walker Coleman or Baines?

    Everton with the better fixtures and Spurs the much better team.

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Coleman

    2. Kun Tozser
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wait on Toby news

  2. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Where was Aguero for City's second goal? Not even in the frame. Probably busy tackling away in his own half.

    1. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Aguero needs to pull the trigger.
      Don't know how many times I yelled at my TV for him to shoot the damn ball and not delay or pass to KDB.

      1. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, that caught my eye too. Just messing around with little sideways passes and all his shots seem to be from outside the box.

      2. Postman Ty
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        exactly what i was doing all game. he just kept passing or letting sane and sterling take the run ahead of him.

  3. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Two free transfers and 2.1 in the bank.

    Foster Pickford
    Alonso Rose Jones Pieters Amat
    Sanchez Lallana Pogba Phillips Capoue
    Ibra Giroud Defoe

    Lallana/Defoe > Alli/Carroll?

    1. semiconductor
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good moves id say but i would get rid of pogba too

  4. Aston-villain
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Can anyone tell me the best site for tracking price changes atm?

    1. FPL Wisdom
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      fantasyfootballfix.com

  5. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone believe in the Gerrard theory? The day after he announces he has returned to Liverpool as a coach, they slip up and lose at home for the first time in 25 games. And that too against the worst team in the league. That man is seriously cursed in the PL. I can see Liverpool going on a dire run and slipping to 5th now.

    1. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Joking surely?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Well the Gerrard theory might not be real but I think they will have to work hard to finish in the top 4. The pressing game doesn't seem sustainable without a proper winter break like in Germany.

  6. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Surprised at the lack of an Antonio bandwagon

    1. FPL Wisdom
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      why?

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Been great recently. Cheap too.

    2. Postman Ty
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Man City up next, that screams goals for West Ham

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly

    3. George James
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Didn't scream many goals in the FA cup

  7. lordkippe
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Heaton Jakupovic
    Alonso Baines Jones Pieters Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Antonio Phillips De roon
    Ibra Kane Defoe

    0.0 ITB. 2FT

    just do Hazard > Alli ?
    Or hazard > 5.2 + Defoe > Aguero ?
    Others ?

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard to Alli depending on tomorrow

      1. lordkippe
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Haz > Alli ( depending on tomorrow ) + Phillips > Barkley maybee

        1. Shirokov(c)
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'd hang onto Phillips for the meantime

  8. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Antonio and Barkley will be great picks in the coming weeks. Coleman over Baines as well imo

  9. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Heaton Pickford
    Alonso Baines Evans Holebas Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Phillips Allen
    Ibra Lukaku Llorente

    A Llorente and Hazard to Kane and Pedro
    B Evans to Walker/Rose
    C your suggestions

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. semiconductor
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B too

  10. Crow
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Repost, then got bottomed..

    Heaton pickford
    Alonso baines brunt (jones love)
    Alli hazard sanchez phillips (can)
    Ibra gru negredo

    1.7itb 1ft

    Want negredo out. Any ideas?

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Save

      Not sure there's anyone worth taking Negredo out for with your money itb

      Maybe DG Hazard...see what happens tomorrow

      1. Crow
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Fair enough. Cheers!

  11. Stimps
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is Hazard & Caroll -> Costa & Antonio too sideways?

    1. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Carroll out so soon?

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A little bit hahaha

  12. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    About 90 mins until price changes.

  13. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Just checked Brunt's ownership. 2.5 %. That is crazy. I swear 99 % of his owners are on here. Same with Alonso. Any other FFS favourites I'm missing?

    1. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      that's strange, he's doing so well.. and I thought he had a much higher ownership due to all the talk about him here

    2. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Firminoooo

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        At the start of the season for sure. Not anymore.

        1. Slam
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Just Amat

    3. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2.5% of over 4m total players is 100'000+

  14. Rones
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Holebas to

    A) walker
    B) baines
    C) coleman

    Rest of defence is Brunt, McAuley, Cedric, Kingsley (heaton and Pickford).

    Thanks

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      C

      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Id go with the order you put

    2. myboycharlie
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I just moved holebas out for walker

  15. semiconductor
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hi everyone.

    My defense is
    Heaton
    Alonso Jones Brunt Holgate AKE

    I have 2 FTs and enough money to do ake to walker (he is about to rise). Should i do it or will my defence be to strong to choose every week from?

    1. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No, a lot of the top players have 4 good defenders, even 5

      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        So u think i should do it?

        1. Crow
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah, as long as you're going to rotate the 3 you already have
          I'm rotating alonso baines brunt and jones and it's working pretty well for me..

        2. Crow
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          4, 15, 29 and this week 19 with alonso to play for the last few

          1. semiconductor
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I see your point. So would you do ake and lallana to walker and firminho for free?

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Don't. Get Baines instead and save the money.

      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I have holgate and he is playing now. Should i double up?

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Holgate is not nailed yet. Doubling up isn't an issue when you look at their fixtures and consider that Everton won't blank this season.

          1. semiconductor
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I bought baines only twice and never did he do me any good. I know he is great but didn't work for me. Perhaps this time

  16. white lightning
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    So I'm looking to do these ft's for free. 2ft's & 3.0itb:
    Valdes & Lovren out - Heaton & Coleman in

    Will give me for gw 24:
    Heaton (Foster)
    Alonso, Rose, Jones, Coleman (Pieters)
    Sanchez (c), Alli, Phillips, Stanislas (Lallana)
    Ibra, Giroud (Defoe)

    Coleman will come in before the price rises & I hold the 2nd trade until later in the week.

    Thoughts & thanks.

  17. Richd
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Alonso Baines Holebas Pieters and Amat backline

    Do I replace Holebas with Brunt Rose or Coleman for a hit

    Or just get Holgate for free

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Holgate imo

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If you are going to get Rose or Coleman you should do it today, think coleman

    3. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Never for holegate. Coleman brunt or rose all good. Im deciding between coleman and brunt.

    4. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd just play Alonso Baines and Pieters this week.

  18. Bring the Cavalry
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is walker or Alli price going up tonight or close? Wanting to do Lallana+Barragan > Walker+Alli

    1. semiconductor
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Walker is i guess

      1. Bring the Cavalry
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks man

  19. FPL Panda
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else thinking of going Ericksen over alli?

    Just feel he has more all round chances of points.

    Everyone seems to be getting alli tho cuz of his recent purple patch. Is it sustainable vs ericksens output ?

    Thanks

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Alli will carry on doing well and scoring, he presses so far up the pitch, but Eriksen is also great! it's just whoever does better on the day, for that reason i have both.
      gun to head, i would choose Alli just because he's more attacking.

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It's as if they take turns getting hauls, just gotta be lucky

  20. LVG
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    thoughts on using 2ft for love and carrick to holegate and carol?

    Cech Jaku
    Valencia Baines Walker Amat Love
    Sanchez Hazard Alli Phillips Carrick
    Lukaku Ibra Giroud

  21. HamezMace
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How many budget options are out there that look like decent picks until the end of season?
    Tom Davies, Holgate, Matt Philips, Tom Carroll, Jakupovic.

  22. El Libe
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any thoughts?

    Heaton
    Alonso Walker Holebas Evans Amat
    Lallana Eriksen Sanchez Phillips Fletcher
    Lukaku Origi Ibra

    2 FT 2,9 ITB

    I was thinking Fletcher,Origi -----> Alli, Stuani (Crouch)

  23. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Play which two of these four guys?

    A) Smith (CRY)
    B) Brunt (mid)
    C) Willams (stk)
    D) Nyom (mid)

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      BC

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      ABC

      1. Crow
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Oh, if it's two then BC

    3. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nice, everyone in agreement with B & C. Was lucky with the 6 Smith points, right? No faith in him whatsoever.

  24. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Straight shoot out.

    A) Coleman
    B) Brunt

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Brunt

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    4. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Given how close it is between these two, it all depends on how much cash you want for your other transfers. No point getting Coleman if you're going to be priced out of someone else you really want.

  25. Puzzle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who needs to go first?

    1. Evans
    2. Holebas (bought at 4.5)
    3. Amat (bought at 4.0)

    1. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Holebas

  26. lordkippe
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A : Aguero, Davies, Antonio, Pieters
    B : Kane, Alli, Antonio, Rose/Walker
    C : Kane, Alli, Barkley, Pieters

    1. George James
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  27. George James
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Cech
    Williams Francis Alonso Lovren Amat
    Sanchez Alli Stanislas Philips Capoue
    Aguero Giroud Ibrahimovic

    1FT 0.1ITB
    A) Save
    B) Lovren >> Brunt/Jones
    C) Lovren + Alonso >> Valencia + Walker
    D) anything else?

  28. Pique boo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Still worth getting in Walker even with Spurs injuries?

    Heaton Jaku
    Alonso Barnes Cedric Amat B.Smith
    Hazard Sanchez Alli phillips Fletcher
    Costa Ibra negredo

    1 Ft 2.0 ITB

    1. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Barnes??

  29. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Lanzini looking quite a good pick now from what I've seen. Getting a few pts as well.

    1. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wakey, you've been watching a little too much West Ham. Were on about Carroll last week and he delivered big time. Now talking up Lanzini. 🙂

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Aye. They look good.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He does indeed.
      In fact West Ham as a team suddenly look so much better.
      I think this Payet nonsense might have glued them together.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        It only takes one bad apple in the dressing room to upset the apple cart. Billic has done well to show him the door.

  30. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    City looked very unlucky not to win IMHO. Feel Aguero will start scoring again soon.

    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I agree. They've looked a bit meh for a few weeks but they were much more direct today.

      That Sane needs to be playing week in and week out.

    2. Crow
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Same here, aguero looks so dangerous