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6 August 2017 3655 comments
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Three at the back – it’s been the tried and trusted Fantasy formation since we were first given a choice in such matters.

Midfielders and forwards score more points, after all, so you’ve got to maximise their presence in your side.

But the rise of the wing-back last season is threatening to prompt a revolution. The poster boy for the movement, Marcos Alonso, romped to 177 points for Chelsea in 2016/17 – more than all but the top four Fantasy Premier League strikers (excluding the out-of-position Josh King).

And with more Premier League managers than ever flirting with the system, there’s a school of thought that increasing numbers of Fantasy defenders are going to score big this campaign.

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the second of this season’s Burning Questions: Do we stick to 3-4-3, or give in to the lure of the four-man defence?

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

There’s no question that 3-4-3 is the standard FPL formation and, given the array of forwards available, I want to continue playing three up front.

Whether it’s worth moving to four in defence is something I’ll look to adapt to when more information suggests that’s the route.

At the moment there are a lot of options in all the positions, so I’m still happy to maximise the number of attackers.

I generally find results to be unpredictable at the start of the season with newly promoted teams often enjoying a honeymoon period. This makes banking on clean sheets as a source of points a risky strategy.

Should certain teams come to the fore with regards to clean sheets, and at least four defenders look clearly underpriced, then I could be persuaded to make the switch to four at the back.

But it’s a crazy, and possibly drab, season if I’m going to five, though.

The other side to defenders that’s worth looking at is the attacking potential. I like my defenders to have some goal threat, but feel three defenders is still enough.

I still view defenders for clean sheets as being the priority and am not keen on a good Gameweek being dependent on my defenders scoring or assisting.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

Depends. Each to their own!

We saw with Marcos Alonso and Kyle Walker last season that the wing-backs provide great value in FPL, and it has reinvigorated the defender position as a glamorous position to pay attention to.

Therefore, given how many attacking wing-backs we have in the league coupled with consistently high-scoring centre-backs such as Gary Cahill, Gareth McAuley and Cesar Azpilicueta, there is merit in considering a four-man defence in FPL.

However, you would have to dig deeper into the statistical evidence to establish the best value formation.

The basic fact remains that you have £100m to spend and I feel the most significant factor when putting a team together is to select the right players period by period and regardless of the formation, and to be flexible in your approach.

Selecting high-value players in one position obviously means allowances have to be made elsewhere, so it is best to put together a balanced team capable of putting big points on the board.

Generally speaking, I have always preferred the 3-4-3 formation but given how many good high-priced attacking players there are, if I was going to change, it would be to a 3-5-2 to allow two big hitters up front.

Having said this, I don’t believe it works long-term to be principled and I try and maintain a squad of 15 that allows for flexibility of formations.

Again, it is more important to have the right set of players than to start with a formation and go from there.

Peter Kouwenberg (Current Hall of Fame #1) Says…

At the time of writing, I am so tempted to switch to the dark side of a four-man defence, purely because the value you can find by stripping down the attacking unit by two players is mouth-watering.

The potential benefits of stocking up on wing-backs have been constantly lauded on these pages over the past few weeks and have slowly eroded my stoicism to stick to 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

That third striker position is the deal-breaker, in my mind.

You can obviously go all-out attack with three Rolls-Royce strikers if you don’t mind loading your defence and midfield with the Rangels and Carrolls of the world.

Trade in your Jesus or Morata for the ephemeral charms of Defoe, Benteke or Hernandez and you are looking at a solid, balanced 3-4-3 with points potential all over the pitch and maybe even a half-decent substitute knocking on your door every week asking if there is any chance he can have a run-out.

How tempting, though, to throw caution to the wind and dust the cobwebs off logbooks labelled Crouch, McBurnie or Mousset. You know these cantankerous old beasts may not even get into first gear, but what does that matter when it allows you the coveted Kan-Kaku strike force, two premium midfielders and enough cash left over to replicate Manchester City’s summer spending in defence?

Fantasy Football is all about flexibility and adaptability, and a change of formation could be just the bold move which puts you ahead of the game before Wildcard mania kicks in.

Whether I’m bold enough to make the move myself is something yet to be confirmed.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

I can definitely see the appeal of a back four.

The triumphant return of the wing-back position after about twenty years in the footballing wilderness has offered the promise of both attacking and defensive returns and a whole new dynamic to factor into our selection.

It’s hard to argue against including the likes of Kieran Trippier or Marcos Alonso. Sure, they’ve had big price hikes this season, but comparable to many midfielders and forwards, they look to offer better value.

Outside of the premium defenders, the trend of wing-backs may also enhance the value of some budget defenders, Lewis Dunk at Brighton being a potential example. This further strengthens the case for focusing on the backline.

For me though, I’m currently still looking at three at the back, with one or two premium options, and then exploiting the value I see among mid-priced midfielders to afford a strong front line.

Defence is, in my opinion, still the best place to conserve budget. The shift for me involves the type of defender I’m going for – it’s now pacy wing-backs over the good ol’ BAP-magnet-dominating centre-halves.

That said, I’m still a little wary.

The trend for wing-backs emerged out of the blue(s) last season and took everyone by surprise.

But football evolves quickly and, this season, teams are certain to adapt, either by teams switching to a wing-back formation themselves, finding ways to counter the threat or by exploiting the spaces that wing-backs can leave defensively.

The days of Alonso and company bombing forward with reckless abandon might not last as long as we hope.

Jonty says…

I’ve heard the arguments for opting for four at the back and they are pretty impressive.

Of those defenders priced at 7.0 or below, 10 achieved scores in excess of 130 FPL points last season. Of these, Chelsea’s Gary Cahill, Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta even managed to hit or exceed the 170-point mark.

By contrast, just five similarly-priced midfielders breached the 130-point barrier and none earned more than 149.

The argument in favour of fielding four at the back over 3-4-3 is even greater when considering cheaper strikers, as only Troy Deeney of Watford managed to hit 130 points last time out.

Four at the back makes sense, but I’ve still decided to ignore this compelling evidence and stick to my tried and tested 3-4-3 line up.

A key factor is that I want to minimize the crushing disappointment of waiting in vain for my defenders to keep their clean sheet points. Waiting for a goal to be scored by my player rather than an opponent is much more fun.

Another factor is that flexibility is key early on.

I’m happy to switch to a four at the back formation, but from the off I want more freedom to hop on midfield or striker bandwagons that emerge. Having a squad with two 4.5 midfielders or a non-playing 4.5 striker leaves me with little wiggle room.

Should a playing 4.5 striker emerge, then I’ll consider a switch to four at the back. But until then, I’m happy to wait for a Wilfried Zaha or Charlie Austin goal rather than for the likes of Alonso or Cahill to lose their clean sheet.

Paul Says…

The growing trend for wing-backs could increasingly influence our transfer plans this season – and maybe even force a reassessment of the default 3-4-3 FPL formation.

Chelsea and Spurs’ penchant for three-man defences was followed by Arsenal in the latter stages of 2016/17, while both Manchester clubs and Everton have flirted with the formation this summer.

Essentially, that’s six of last season’s top seven teams potentially playing full-backs further up the pitch.

There’s also the fact that three Chelsea defenders supplied 170+ points in FPL last time.

But let’s not forget that the Blues managed just one clean sheet in their first six fixtures, while Marcos Alonso didn’t start a league match until Gameweek 7.

So initially, at least, I’ll be keeping faith in a three-man backline and adjust accordingly to on-field events as the season unfolds.

Building initial value also plays a part in my thinking here.

Particularly in the early parts of the season, most major bandwagons are typically focused on midfielders and forwards – a clean sheet doesn’t quite turn heads or drive up prices in the same manner that a goal does. I want my money on attackers to begin with.

The opening fixtures for both Southampton and West Brom also favour the tried and trusted approach. Charlie Austin, Manolo Gabbiadini or Jay Rodriguez could be quick to offer value and build on their two-goal showings over the summer.

With two big-hitters alongside in a three-man frontline, I’d prefer to punt on one or two in-form mid-price attackers with favourable fixtures rather than roll the dice on my approach and squad tactics from the off.

Mark Says…

I love the concept of Fantasy managers adapting their own tactics to fit the changes in real-world formations.

Clearly, a three-man defence with wing-backs is being seen as the way forward for many managers and teams in the Premier League, though I’m watchful for a backlash as methods to counter that tactic improve.

In Fantasy terms, I’m not about to move to a back four for Gameweek 1, but I am setting my team up to react and possibly shift once we have more data and information.

However, I fully intend to embrace the trend of investing in big-hitting defenders with my initial squad: I may well opt for both Antonio Valencia and perhaps Marcos Alonso, for example.

For one, they have a very strong opening fixture. But more significantly, they represent an effective way of holding funds that can be easily freed up with a simple downgrade to a team-mate or even a 4.5 alternative.

By downgrading one or even both to lower-priced options, I may just have the cash to move for early attacking bandwagons.

Experience tells me that real value will crop up in midfield. It could be temporary, and in short bursts, so I want a set-up capable of acting quickly when it does.

So 3-4-3 remains for me, but with the funds allocated to allow an easy shift to a 3-5-2 or even a four-man defence should meaningful value crop up in that position.

  1. Our Tiny Windows
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    This is my eternal back and forth.

    A:
    De Gea
    Valencia Tripper(if ok)
    Alli Milivojevic
    Firmino

    or

    B:
    Foster
    Cedric Ake
    Salah Loftus
    Kane

    Can't ever decide.

    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      The eternal back and forth.

      Sounds like a Nine Inch Nails EP.

      1. lilmessipran
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        sounds like a nine inch *** to me

      2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Ha 🙂

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A and go Danilo if Trippier not fit

  2. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    With Ritchie home v Spurs and RLC home v Huddersfield which would you play first game week?

    1. thunder_mike
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      RLC

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Ritchie

  3. Ronny17
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Iwobi - yay or nay?

    1. Pariße
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      No, he plays where Sanchez and Ozil play.

    2. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Nay

  4. FPL_352
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Is Danilo nailed?

  5. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Is having Fraser, Astu and Tommy Carroll as 3rd, 4th & 5th Mid just taking the piss?

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah you need RLC as well really

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Don't forget March

        Atsu, March, Fraser, Carroll, RLC, beastly midfield 😉

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yes.

  6. Smoky Johnson
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    de gea
    danilo / daniels / cedric / trippier/monreal
    kdb / mané / zaha or chelsea mid / ward-prowse rotating with t. carroll
    kane / lukaku

    myhill / t.carroll / long / mcburnie (1 playing sub, maybe 2 with .5 ITB)

    Idea behind this flexible team:
    de gea can always be downgraded when an in-form 4.5 goalkeepers appears, but reckon he will get at the least 3 CS during first 6 gw.

    I have .5 itb which I will either use to upgrade fifth defender to 4.5, or save to upgrade danilo/monreal to kompany/kolasinac a few weeks in. This .5 can also be used to avoid hits early on.

    Kdb and mané are both easy to switch to another premium midfielder that might hit form: eriksen, alli, salah, silva, pogba, siggy, etc.

    Zaha or chelsea mid can also be downgraded if someone explodes in that price bracket such as: ritchie, ince, redmond, wijnaldum, ramsey, tadic, arnautovic, etc.

    Ward-prowse can switch to atsu, allen, herrera, can, milivojevic if necessary.

    Kane and lukaku up top is flexible to anyone - aguero, jesus, lacazette, morata, or anyone below that price bracket.

    How do you guys feel about rotating ward-prowse (5.5) and t.carroll (4.5) as 4th mid? Liking that idea. Enables me to play this team. Please let me know you thoughts.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Perfectly sound reasoning all the way through. I mentioned rotating JWP/TC a little while ago so I'm in on that.

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        thanks mate! whats your team atm?

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Unfinished! 4-3-3 mostly

          Hart (4.5), Elliot (4.0)

          Danilo (5.5), Cedric (5.0), Stephens (5.0), TAA (4.5), Naughton (4.5) [TAA/Nau rotation]

          De Bruyne (10.0), Pogba (8.0), JWP (5.5), RLC (4.5), Carroll (4.5) [JWP/Car rot]

          Kane (12.5), Lukaku (11.5), Jesus (10.5)

  7. Steevo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    How's she looking?

    DDG | Elliot
    Bertrand | Kolasinac | Cedric | Danilo | (Long)
    KDB | Alli | Willian | Milivojevic | (Carroll)
    Kane | Lukaku | (McBurnie)

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Very similar to my team just above. Like it.

  8. Rhodes your boat
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    For those with Kane are you trying to squeeze alli/eriksen in too or are you looking more at kdb and salah/mané

    1. Butcher
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Have KDB with Firmino up top

  9. Agger
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Let's not forget that the 2 scorers today were wing-backs.
    4 at the back might not be as bad as some may think!

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      nailed wing-backs with an eye for goal and good fixtures

      can we list them?

      1. Gazpilicueta
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Alonso

        1. Gazpilicueta
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          just realised you said fixtures....but chelsea?!

  10. Randell
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Best team i've had so far.. tear into it

    Foster (Elliot)
    Valencia, Lejeune, Alosno (Dunk, Long)
    KDB, Salah, Zaha, Ritchie, Caroll
    Lukaku, Kane (Mcburnie)

  11. The New Lad
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    RMT Out of 10 Please!: 3-5-2
    DDG
    Daniels-TAA-Bertrand (Long & Hünemeir)
    Salah-Pogba-Prowse-KDB-Eriksen
    Firmino-Lukaku (Tammy Abraham)

  12. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Please fill in the blanks:

    _ _
    _ _ _ _ _
    _ _ _ _ Carroll
    _ _ _

    95.m ITB

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      95.5

      1. Butcher
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Lol

    2. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I dunno man you're almost there.

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, might leave the final choices til just before deadline

    3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Forster, Elliot
      Kompany, Cedric, Bailly, Daniels, Kolonoscopy
      KdB, Pogba, JWP, Cork
      Jesus, Lukaku, Firmino

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        *copies to note pad*

    4. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      😆

    5. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      My team for your consideration Jafooli 🙂

      De Gea / Elliot
      Alonso / Bertrand / Yoshida / Hegazi / 4.0
      KdB / Mane / Zaha / Atsu / Carroll
      Kane / Lukaku / 4.5

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        4.5m Fwd, really?

        1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah! I fancy either 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 to start with, until a cheaper striker emerges and then will rejig.

    6. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      haha

  13. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Community shield thoughts...

    Chelsea lacked something today. Fabregas wasn't able to help dictate the play. Willian took the place of Hazard but he can't replace him - he was okay at times but not the same spark that Hazard gives.

    Think Chelsea really missed Costa as well - Batshuayi just can't hold the ball up. Morata looked more threatening when he came on but isn't an option GW1 as he's not fit enough.

    Alonso looked okay but didn't really produce much that would make me want to outlay £7m for him. Was just one game though - against easier opportunity he'll probably still kill it

    Think I may steer clear of Chelsea for now and wait and see what happens. Not in a huge rush to bring in any of their players.

    Arsenal looked good early doors but went off the boil towards the end of the first half. I thought Iwobi played well but once Ozil and Sanchez are fit surely it's him and Welbeck that make way.

    I liked Bellerin for getting forward but he struggled to produce, at £6m I want to see more. Quite like Monreal at £5.5 - should be nailed and still made forward runs down the left where possible.

    Kolasinac was good to watch, looked like he'll be a real handful when bombing forward. Only problem is will he face rotation with him, Ox and Bellerin fighting for 2 wing back spots.

    Either way thought Arsenal looked okay with the continued 3-4-3. Lacazette did okay but probably needs more time to adjust to their style, ultimately missing Ozil and Sanchez isn't going to help with creativity either.

    Might look at Kolasinac for my GW1 team but I think rotation fears may put me off.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      3-4-3*

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah fair point. I mainly meant just that 3 at the back - will edit it 🙂

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Ugh, now I look silly. 😉 🙂

    2. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Any thoughts on my post above Andy?

      Always respected your decisions.

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Liar

        1. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          😉

    3. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Nice write up Andy
      I'm still going with Willian for the Burnley fixture to start with - far to tempting to refuse. No doubt he'll be gone by GW3/4 so i'm not overthinking it and eyeing up Zaha or Rambo around then.

    4. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      So who are you replacing Willian with now?

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Have Zaha at the moment.

        Didn't have Willian before the match though, so seeing the performance didn't help.

        I do wonder if Fabregas might have a bit more freedom in easier fixtures.

    5. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      4-4-2 formation with monreal sounds good for gw1

    6. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I think I'll avoid Kola for now.

      I don't see that much at 6.0 that attracts me. Kompany I worry about getting injured and rested. Alderweireld maybe.

    7. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      The only Chelsea assets we're all considering are the 7m mids, 7m Alonso and Bats. Alonso and Bats cause too much disruption in your team/ are punts. The 7m mids fit right in though. Whom do you replace them with? All that excitement about 7m mids and the value they provide, yet I'm struggling to nail down one I'd like in my team.

    8. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I'd be ok without arsenal or Chelsea on today's showing... want lots of Man City though 🙂

  14. RohanVaswani
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Is Kolsniac worth holding onto after the pet injury??

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      What injury?

      1. MarvelouSuccess
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        he means per mertesacker injury

  15. Yankee Toffee
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    RMT Please

    Foster elliot
    Kolasenic Yoshi Stones Mee Long
    Kdb willian Zaha Fraser Carroll
    Kane lukaku firmino

    0.0

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Looks good

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, def is ok?

        1. Corona Macallan
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Not sure about stones. Apart from that it's solid

  16. Positive vibes
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone who have Atsu as 4th mid and Carroll as 5th mid and playing 3-4-3?

    Thx you.

    1. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Thinking about it - they rotate brilliantly.

      But Atsu is still likely to be rotated with Murphy, I understand - so might just stick with Fraser at 5.5.

  17. reason17
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Is Gabbiadini nailed on? Is he a good pick?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Wouldnt say nailed. Boosted by yday for sure

  18. Corona Macallan
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Bottomed

    Anything I need to change in this team?

    Foster
    Kolasinac Daniels Cedric
    KDB Salah Willian Fraser
    Lukaku Gabiadini Kane

    Bench- Elliot Carroll Mee Hunmeier

    1. What am I doing?
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Cerdic is nailed right? thinking about him myself... looks good

      1. Corona Macallan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah looks like. Started yesterday's game so looks like playing

    2. Yankee Toffee
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Daniels and Gabbi nailed?

  19. Fatboy_Slim
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Just need a couple of suggestions lads...

    1) CURRENT
    Cech
    Trippier/Danilo/Valencia/Cedric
    Ericsson/Salah/Willian/Fraser
    Lukaku/Jesus

    Sub: Elliott/Trent AA/Mounie/Carrol

    OR

    2) ALTERNATE
    Ederson
    Trippier/Kola/Valencia/Cedric
    Ericsson/Salah/Willian/Fraser
    Lukaku/Jesus

    Sub: Elliott/Mounie/Carrol/4.0

    ??????

    1. Fire Chief Moe
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Its Eriksen. And also alternative. 2nd edges it for me

      1. Fatboy_Slim
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        sorry my bad guys didnt see the autocorrect fail there lolll...
        so TEAM 2???

      2. Jeremy Corbyn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        You don't start sentences with a conjunction 😉

        1. Fatboy_Slim
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          nice one...but need help lolll...

    2. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Sony Ericsson?

  20. thunder_mike
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    A) Austin
    B) Gabbiadini

    Looks like Gabbi will start judging by yesterday's team, but I trust Austin more to grab a goal even if coming on as a sub.

    1. Fatboy_Slim
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      completely unsure...so avoiding both for now...sticking to Southampton defense initially...

  21. H-SF
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Can someone tell me why Firmino is supposedly a better option then Salah, Coutinho and Mane.
    Thanks.

    1. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Because he may be on pens.

    2. Fire Chief Moe
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      People think he might be on pens

    3. Lebowski85
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Ive got 2 of them.

    4. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      He is cheaper

    5. Fatboy_Slim
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      some people think he is on penalties...which is ridiculous because in post match Milner clearly stated that it was for Firminho's confidence boost as he has had only one preseason goal...Milner for sure will retain penalty duties...

      1. Butcher
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I doubt letting him take a pen and then admitting post match it was to boost his confidence is gonna help increase his confidence

    6. thunder_mike
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Pens, loved by Klopp, cheaper.

  22. Lebowski85
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Does anyone else feel like the more they tweak, the less certain they are?

    Im feeling this, but then again i've said that before....

    Foster
    Alonso / Kompany / Kolasinic / Ake / Cedric
    Kdb / Salah / Micky / Fraser / Carroll
    Kane / Firmino / Quaner

    Am I missing anything obvious? I feel Ive got form, set pieces, fixtures, essentials & wagons covered with this.

    Thoughts?

    1. Lebowski85
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      And yes, I know i dont have Lukaku.

    2. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Obviously missing Lukaku

      1. Lebowski85
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        .....i asked for that

        1. Whazza
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          😉

          It's a good team though, don't trust Kompany's fitness/City's defence myself. Also not sure about Mkhi, Pogba is a safer pick but you know the risks

    3. Fatboy_Slim
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      micky is an alternative, but unlike liverpool (fluid system), Lukaku will be the focal point, so i just feel he would be more effective than Firminho..with Salah you already have Liverpool covered, hence i suggest getting Lukaku in, probably downgrading Micky and a couple of centrebacks...if you are going to invest heavy in defense, i would suggest going for wingbacks rather than centrebacks

    4. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      you're going to be needing that drink in your grav after lukaku scores a hattrick lad.

    5. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I have an identical midfield - but very different team:

      DDG (Elliott)
      Kolasinac, Stephens, Alexander-Arnold (Suttner, 4.0)

      Kane, Lukaku, Abrahams

      Am pretty envious of your defence - but not enough to lose Lukaku......

  23. aca_sr
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Draft in 20h max 8 teams...code is 408443-98706

  24. chaboi1998
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    A) Danilo + RLC
    B) Hunemeister + Ritchie

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A

  25. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Is 11G and 11A good returns of a 8.5M striker? (now with the occasional pen)

    1. Lebowski85
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I think its decent. To be honest, I reckon he will easily better that this year. Liverpools season derailed a bit last year and now he is firmly a number 9.

      1. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        A bit worried about his competition... Sturridge/Origi/Solanke..

  26. shearer9
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on Mounie? Good fixtures.

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      It's Huddersfield.
      I think pl teams might just handle their ->CM->hoof tactic a bit better than the Championship did.

  27. Brighton & Hove Albion Round Up
    André94PT
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Hello everyone! My final pre-season review is aimed at the newly promoted team Brighton & Hove Albion.

    Their opponents arrive at Amex Stadium after winning the Audi Cup championship by beating Napoli by 2-1 in semi-finals and winning the final against Liverpool in the penalties shootout. Thus, they managed to win the prestigious summer trophy that Bayern Munich organizes in their first participation. One week before, Diego Simeone’s team played the first friendly of the pre-season in Mexico against Toluca. The Argentine manager fielded up a strong team with the likes of Oblak, Koke, Carrasco and Griezmann.

    Chris Hughton rolled out a 4-4-1-1 formation with in the Ryan in the net, Bruno (captain), Duffy, Dunk and Suttner as the back four, Murphy, Stephens, Kayal and Brown in the midfield and Gross behind the lone striker Hemed.

    The Seagulls spent much of the game without the ball and they played with a very, very low block, with the defensive pressure happening just right inside their midfield. Due to the low defensive aggressiveness of Brown, Murphy and Gross, two things happened regularly: 1 - Stephens and Kayal were often in numerical inferiority due to runs to the center of the field of Carrasco and Gaitan, forcing them to make many fouls in this central area; 2 – Atletico’s strikers were often able to find the ball between the defensive line and the midfield line, despite the low block Brighton had.

    When Brighton had the ball in his possession and tried to build the game from behind, Gross never came back looking for the ball. Instead, he placed himself right in front of Hemed's right side and tried to make runs for the right wing for long balls. Stephens and Kayal add little to this phase of the Seagulls' game. They remain all the time in that area of the field and have no ability to lead the ball forward. Their passing ability also did not add much, as they always passed the ball to the central defenders or to Bruno and Suttner. These later tried always to look for Hemed or Gross with long balls.

    1st Half Highlights:
    8th minute - Griezmann stands over a free kick and bends the ball over the wall from 25 yards. The striker's effort sails straight into the hands of Ryan;
    12nd minute - Carrasco volleys towards goal and Ryan pulls off an impressive save;
    17h minute - Ryan makes another fine save low down to his left-hand side, after Carrasco weaved his way into the penalty area and sent a shot towards the bottom corner;
    31st minute - Brown draws a foul out of Juanfran up the other end of the pitch. Gross delivers the ball into Duffy, who leaps highest inside the box, but the defender's header is deflected just over the crossbar;
    35th minute - Atletico come close to breaking the deadlock, but once again Ryan is on hand to make a smart save from an almost Kayal’s own-goal;
    40th minute - Ryan claws away Carrasco's dangerous low cross;
    42nd minute - GOAL! Atletico take the lead as Gaitan's long-range effort escapes the grasp of Ryan on the goal line (the Australian didn’t deserve to end the first half like that).

    Half-time substitutions: Suttner -> Bong; March -> Murphy; Kayal -> Sidwell.

    2nd Half Highlights:
    47th minute - March makes an immediate impact as he cuts inside and fires a ferocious shot just over the crossbar from 25 yards;
    60th minute – GOAL! Gross drills the free kick low, and after hitting Gaitan on the way through, the ball clips the inside of the post and beats Oblak;
    65th minute - March's volley is blocked in front of goal, and after landing at the feet of Sidwell on the edge of the box, the midfielder drills a low effort on target, which takes a deflection and rolls into the path of Oblak;
    67th minute – GOAL! Torres heads home from an unmarked position inside the penalty area. Juanfran with the inch-perfect cross;
    71st minute – Bruno -> Rosenior. Hemed -> Knockaert. Dunk took the armband. Knockaert went to the right, March to the left and Brown to striker besides Gross;
    77th minute – GOAL! Sidwell equalises with a close-range header from March's cross. Knockaert started the move, before March skipped past his marker and hung a brilliant cross into the middle of the penalty area;
    85th minute - Griezmann takes advantage of a loose ball after Dunk lost possession on the edge of the penalty area, but the Frenchman lifted his shot over the crossbar;
    88th minute – GOAL! Hernandez gives Atletico the lead for a third time, as he latches onto a loose ball inside the penalty area after Ryan made a fine stop from Griezmann;
    90th minute – Brown -> LuaLua

    Conclusions: Brighton only have one attempt in the first half (31st minute) and they had a very hard time to build any play from behind; Seagulls’ manager likes his wingers to be wide open when the team has possession of the ball in order to take full advantage of the width of the field; Brown and Murphy both had bad times defensively and never managed to be real opponents to Juanfran and Lucas. These two got many crosses during the match; March and Sidwell brought a new soul to Brighton's attacking play. Sidwell was often near the opposite box rather than Kayal who always stayed back; Lucas never crossed again with March ahead of him, however, the problem remained on the side of Brown and Juanfran made a big 2nd half offensively speaking; Gross takes all free kicks and corners and he is basically a striker, since he helps very little in defense.

    Since this is the last day of friendly games, it is also my last post of this type and as such I would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone the best of luck during the entire FPL season. This community has fantastic people and it’s one of the few places where I could sit for hours and hours reading about football. I hope my posts have helped some of you out there. If so, I can say that my work was very successful. Cheers!

    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Any 4.0m defs looking first choice?

      1. André94PT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        nop, only Rosenior came for Bruno in the 2nd half. Both Goldson and Hunemeier didn't play

      2. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Not by the sounds of it.

        Hunemeier or Rosenior would have played some part otherwise.

    2. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Good report, Thx

    3. Swanremainsthesame
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks,
      Expect Brighto will struggle against quality teams, but should cope better against the more mid table teams. Like the sound of Gross. classed as mid, on fk,corners and plays up front. mmmm

    4. Essem
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I thought Suttner would be on some set pieces, but apparently not. Maybe Dunk is a better option after all. Already have TAA and I need another 4,5 defender. Preferably a 4,0 as well.

      1. André94PT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        No, he wasn't man and Bruno and him didn't have almost any run forward up the pitch

        1. Essem
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          All right. Thanks. Have to look elsewhere for cheap defenders I guess.

    5. Enzo the Baker
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Your posts have been a great source of info with some interesting insights. Thanks, and I hope you continue to contribute to FFS or start your own blog.

      Sign him up, Mark !

      1. André94PT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I'll be more quiet during the season (in terms of posting) but I still be around 🙂

    6. ron.44
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Another excellent post André. Thanks for all your efforts and good luck to you for the season ahead.

      1. André94PT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks Ron!

    7. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Thank you so much for all your analysis Andre. Loved your articles. Definitely helpful in building the team.
      Good luck to you as well 🙂

      1. André94PT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Good luck man! Always a pleasure to help 🙂

    8. AA33
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks mate! 🙂

        1. André94PT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          No problem!

      • Sadio
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I'm wondering if Ryan could be a good 4.5 GK option. Seems as if he'll be busy at the very least.

        1. André94PT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          The first goal was clearly his fault but besides that he did some very good stops. The thing is, I didn't like that Brighton way of defending that much but maybe because their opponents were atletico

      • Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Fantastic round up - thanks!

        "... Sidwell brought a new soul to Brighton's attacking play"

        A sentence with those words in can never be good though!

        1. André94PT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          I know right?! Hahaha but he actually did very well!

      • J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Brilliant summary - chimes with the analysis I've been reading from the local papers sports editor.

        Brighton will struggle for goals and win the midfield battle.

        I'm with great regret backing city to prosper against them gwk 1.

        1. André94PT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Thank you Jonty 🙂

      • electrue
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks and good luck to you as well.

        1. André94PT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers man!

      • ihateramsey2
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        When Knockaert is fully fit, will Gross still be on set pieces?

        1. André94PT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          He was in this match even with Knockaert in the match at the end on 2nd half

      • Chidi LaLa
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I love you, Andre. Excellent!

      • FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Looking out for your posts now ... thanks Andre.

      • La Décima Chaser
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Another superb post Andre! I have really enjoyed reading all of these reviews, so thank you for the effort you put into them.

      • IWR
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Great post mate. Ryan well and truly on the radar, but think I'll stick with Hart in the end.

      • The Rumour Mill
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Great stuff mate, these pre season match reports have been a very useful source of information. Hope to see you on the forums regularly through the season 🙂

    9. HellasLEAF
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Community Shield.

      Have we learned anything of relevance or glorified exhibition..

    10. RohanVaswani
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A) Kolasinac Daniels

      Or

      B) Monreal Baily/Luiz??

      1. Sleep Talk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        A

    11. How I met your Mata
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      DDG Elliot
      Bertrand Alderwield Trent A Naughton Mawson
      Mane Redmond Ali Fabregas Carroll
      Lukaku Chicharito Jesus

      It's good isn't it 😉

      1. Jeremy Corbyn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        It depends how you wanna play it. But there seem to be better options in the defence.
        I'd do Ald -> Trippier, Redmond -> Zaha to start with

      2. Swanremainsthesame
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        TAA,& double swansea defence - just no