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10 August 2017 2682 comments
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In the words of Cockney prophets Chas & Dave: ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley, Tottenham’s going to do it again’.

This season, in a move that even a dreaming Ossie Ardiles might tire of, they’ll be on their way to Wembley many more times than usual to fulfil 19 Premier League home fixtures while their new stadium is being built.

And the fear is that what Tottenham’s going to be doing again is struggle.

The precedents are not good – West Ham suffered when they moved into their new home last season, while Spurs lost two and drew one of their four European matches at Wembley in 2016/17.

A strong second-place finish last campaign, fuelled by key assets Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, would usually demand our Fantasy attention.

But will the move to Wembley change all that? Will it prompt a right old Knees Up or a case of Ain’t No Pleasing You?

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the fourth of this season’s Burning Questions: Is the Wembley factor really a concern when considering Spurs’ assets?

Peter Kouwenberg (Hall of Fame #1) Says…

A confession: I was one who skippered Kane for the Hull City and Burnley blanks last December before a rare rage-transfer out – just in time to ‘enjoy’ his festive haul of six goals in four matches.

I also became something of an expert throughout the season at swapping Eriksen in and out for Alli, just in time to miss each other’s goals and assists, before finally admitting defeat and bringing in all three players.

As a result, I am the last person qualified to comment on Spurs.

Much has been written about why they do, and may continue to, struggle at Wembley and if I was a Spurs fan, I probably would be a little bit nervous about this.

However, I would be far more fearful of not having Kane in my team, with a match away at newly promoted Newcastle and a home fixture against Burnley sandwiching the Chelsea clash.

I agree that there are viable alternatives – the Manchester City strikers and new boys Alvaro Morata and Alexandre Lacazette could all justify excluding Kane – but I’ll be riding out the first three games at least, after which the fixtures suggest it would be a brave or foolish player not to have at least one Spurs attacker.

Where I think the Wembley wariness will influence me is in not trebling up from the off. Alli was the first name on my first draft team sheet and I still think he (and Eriksen) could continue where they left off last season.

However, wagering over a quarter of my £100m budget on Spurs (including the injured Kieran Trippier) to beat their Wembley hoodoo may be a gamble too far.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

I believe that playing at Wembley for 19 home matches will make a difference, but how much this will affect the Spurs players is impossible to tell.

We simply don’t have a decent sample size of data to confirm how much of a factor Wembley will be. What we do know is that Spurs won 21 of 23 matches played at White Hart Lane last season across all competitions, and you would expect this will be difficult to match this time around.

Given Harry Kane is the most expensive player in FPL, at £12.5m, you have to take into account all factors when fielding a player who uses up such a significant portion of our budget. Playing at Wembley is one such factor.

Kane is England’s number one striker. He’s played at Wembley on a number of occasions, so we’re not talking about a novice with a complete unfamiliarity of his surroundings. What also works in Kane’s favour is that he is a nailed-on starter for Spurs so there is no rotation risk around him.

I believe that in considering Spurs’ assets, you have to play it by ear. What you can hang your hat on is that last season in the Premier League, Spurs had the joint-best goal difference at home and the best goal difference away. This tells you that they’re a very well-balanced team with FPL options across all positions.

They’ve earned the right for us to ignore the Wembley aspect to begin with, particularly with their favourable opening schedule.

But we might need to re-visit the issue once we have more evidence and information.

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

Stadium moves generally negatively affect performance.

Couple this with Spurs, and Kane in particular, being slow starters and there should be caution around their prized assets.

The 6-1 and 7-1 maulings they handed out in the spring were nearly three months ago. Their form – and that of all the other teams – is re-set for the new season and no-one has half an eye on the beach anymore.

I feel Spurs are less likely to win the title this season. Today’s Danny Rose story is symptomatic of the frustration at the club, with some players concerned that rivals have strengthened so much while their only business has made them weaker, ie losing Kyle Walker.

Then again, I’m open to the possibility of my thoughts deriving from confirmation bias.

Pretending Spurs have no options saves a lot of money and makes picking a team easier. There is a stadium move, but they’ve played there before so it’s not completely new. Kane hasn’t scored in August before, but that could mean he’ll score three months worth of goals this August to average it out.

Then there’s Eriksen and Alli who, as a rule, score more points each year. Even if they get ‘only’ this season, I don’t want to be missing out on that.

At the start you can only have so many top players. The tactic I generally use is to see what factors rule players out rather than in. I think Wembley is a big enough concern to put Spurs on hold for now.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

My theory when it comes to Spurs and the ‘Wembley factor’ is that their recent malaise there has less to do with the size of the pitch or the unfamiliar surroundings and much more to do with the fact that it is simply ‘Wembley’.

The venue is synonymous with ‘an occasion’ and, for the visiting teams and their fans, fixtures there take on a cup final atmosphere, irrespective of their actual significance. As a result, Spurs’ opponents typically bring along a larger, louder following and their players raise their game accordingly.

If this is true, then Spurs may have 19 ‘cup finals’ on their hands next season and this could, of course, impact on their players’ performances.

Though I expect Spurs to eventually adapt to their new surroundings and the greater pressure that comes with them, I might be concerned about their results early on in the season.

I’m less concerned, however, with the impact on Spurs as an attacking force.

Even if the results aren’t going their way, I think their usual suspects of Kane, Alli and Eriksen will still find opportunities to score.

The atmosphere might even work in their favour at times, with opposing teams less inclined to ‘park the bus’ in front of a more vociferous than usual away following.

So, while I might avoid their defence for a few Gameweeks at least, I’ll still be backing their attacking assets.

Jonty Says…

Spurs were an unstoppable force at White Hart Lane last season, racking up more shots than any home side and scoring 47 times – a tally only bettered by Chelsea.

In defence, they conceded just nine times in front of their own fans and kept 12 clean sheets – another two records for their 2016/17 stats cabinet.

Given that they effectively play 38 away matches this season, due to Wembley being their temporary home, the theory is that this fine record will suffer.

Leading the charge in pushing this theory are those that study pitch sizes. They will point out that, at 100 x 67 metres, White Hart Lane had the second smallest Premier League pitch last season and Spurs players may struggle to adjust to the extra space afforded by Wembley’s gigantic 105 x 69 metres (7,245 ) of turf.

West Ham’s travails after their move to a larger pitch at the London Stadium last season further strengthen this ‘groundsman’s argument’.

Then there’s Spurs’ track record at Wembley – a stadium where last season they were beaten by Monaco, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea and could only secure a draw against Belgian team KAA Gent. In fact, CSKA Moscow were the only side they managed to beat at the home of English football last season.

But I’m still not buying into the Wembley effect.

The key is that, in Kane, they have a player looking to win the Golden Boot for the third consecutive season and who still scored 12 goals on the road last season – with only Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero scoring more.

In addition, their away record was superb – suggesting the tight White Hart Lane pitch is not needed for success. On the road they conceded a mere 16 times- another record – and scored 39, which was only bettered by Manchester City.

If Spurs fail to replicate 2016/17’s form, it won’t be due to playing at Wembley. It will arguably be more to do with their failure to impress in the transfer market, where they have lost one of their best players in full-back Walker and have been forced to watch in envy as their rivals strengthen.

Paul Says…

Due to Spurs’ tactics under Mauricio Pochettino, I don’t think you can rule out the Wembley issue altogether, or at least in the very early stages.

Spurs play such a high-pressing game that, with more ground and space to cover in their new home, there’s a possibility that energy levels could drop later in matches and they might not be able to close down opponents quite so effectively.

That’s essentially a fitness factor and one that their manager will presumably address by ensuring that Spurs’ levels are even greater than before. It could initially have an impact but, as the season unfolds and the players up their match fitness and become more accustomed to Wembley, I can’t see it being an issue.

Kane’s minutes per away goal last season – which was almost identical to Romelu Lukaku’s at home – underlines that he’s far from reliant on White Hart Lane. At present, he’s the only Spurs player I own as I feel he’s unparalleled as a captaincy pick.

Elsewhere, you can also point to the fact that Alli had more big chances away from home than any FPL midfielder last season. Eriksen, meanwhile, sat first for shots and key passes, and his penchant for efforts from distance is unlikely to be quenched.

Defensively, I’m going to steer clear of Spurs for now and see if they can maintain the same levels of resilience as last season.

But with Burnley, Swansea City and Bournemouth three of their first four visitors, the opening schedule should allow them to settle and give us time to assess any possible Wembley impact.

Mark Says…

While they have been conspicuous by their absence in the transfer market, in many ways it was difficult to strengthen Pochettino’s first XI and, under normal circumstances I’d reluctantly be installing Spurs as title favourites.

But the Wembley factor has to be a consideration and, coupled with the sudden unrest in the camp following Rose’s outburst today, I do have escalating concerns about their prospects.

The pitch size and sense of occasion created by the stadium move is less of a factor than the morale issues for me.

I worry that, with a ready-made excuse for a reduced title bid, the mood in the camp could suddenly plummet further.

One of the main reasons for Spurs’ success last season was the fact that they came across as the most unified and spirited of teams.

But cracks are now appearing and I do feel that the re-location will compound matters.

Having said that, I am still struggling to overlook Kane.

Based on last season’s output, he is peerless as a captain option and while there is explosivity and possibly consistency on offer from Romelu Lukaku and Gabriel Jesus, they are for my money still giving chase to Kane for these qualities .

So Kane will likely get the nod for me, regardless of my concerns.

However, I am unlikely to back him with Eriksen or Alli for fear of over-investment in a side perhaps on the verge of a transition – both in terms of venue and, perhaps, mentality and confidence.

  1. Waxys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Ederson or De Gea for my game week 1-2 keeper?

    1. Triple P
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      DdG

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      you rotating them?

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        no nothing like that.

        Just using up funds until Son is back and i can see which 4.0 keeper is starting.

    3. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      De Gea

    4. Forza Juventus
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      DDG

    5. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      cheers lads De Gea it is

    6. trequartista
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      DDG

  2. Triple P
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Repost

    ---

    Torn between Alli and Kane. Which one looks better guys?

    A) Long (BUR) + Pogba + Alli + Firminio
    B) Mee + Willian + Ritchie + Kane

    Cheers!

    1. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B for me

    2. trequartista
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

      But I'd rather not have Ritchie..

  3. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Hart/Elliot
    Bertrand/Bavies/TAA (Mee, Long) +0.5 ITB

    OR

    DDG/Elliot
    Yoshi/Dann/TAA (Mee, Long) +0.5ITB

    Or other suggestions?

  4. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Regarding the article, do we also think that teams travelling to Wembley will also be affected by the venue? Spurs could really use that to their advantage.

  5. Enzo the Baker
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    RMT please :

    Elliot
    Valencia Bertrand Daniels
    Salah Willian Zaha Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Jesus

    Bench : 4.5 4.0 4.0 Speroni
    0.5 itB

    + Tried to cover captaincy picks for GW1 (Lukaku, Kane) and GW2 (Jesus/Pool mid)
    + 0.5 itB lets me do : Willian/Zaha + Valencia -> KdB / Alli / Mane if required

    1. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Downgrade Daniels to Francis which gives you 1 in the bank to get another good defender or keeper

      1. *Reformed-Character*
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        0.5 difference

        1. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          He has .5 already

      2. *Reformed-Character*
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Apologies I misread 🙁

      3. Enzo the Baker
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Is Francis nailed on or a short term punt ?

        1. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          I would have thought hes nailed on

          1. Enzo the Baker
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers Hybrid Power

  6. peng
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Foster / (Elliot)
    Valencia / Stones / Cedric / (Mee / Long)
    KDB / Salah / Pedro / Carroll / (RLC)
    Kane / Jesus / Gabbiadini

    0 ITB

    What do people think of this? Pedro at 8.0 worth it or is Zaha + 1m a better shout?

    1. Flynny
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rather have zaha

    2. trequartista
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Zaha a better shout IMO

    3. Belsunz
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Zaha + 1 M

    4. weaver93
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rather have B Davies than Stones -IMO

    5. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Long doesn't seem a likely starter an Rafa appears to be in the market for a goalie. I'd downgrade Pedro to Fabregas and use the change on them.

  7. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Where's the Team News section with the predicted lineups?

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Got to pay

      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Much obliged TM

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Well if someone predicts it, it's sure to be right

      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        A second opinion is always nice

    3. PvA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Banner still has Pre-season in place of it - but I'm sure that'll change

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/team-news/

  8. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What is the best of these combis please...

    A....Gabbi and Daniels

    B......Jrod and kolasenic

    C....abraham and kolasenic and 0.5

    Thanks

    1. Forza Juventus
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A i think

      1. FPLGyarados
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I agree

  9. trequartista
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What would you guys prefer?

    A. Jay Rod & Mane/Alli

    B. Ramsey & Firmino

    If Ramsey were not flagged, would go for B

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I would say A to be honest, not sure yet how Ramsey will do at all

      1. trequartista
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers!

    2. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B, with Fab/Wil/Zaha

      1. trequartista
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Already got Wil and Zaha. Wary of 2 Chelsea mids..

  10. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    For first 3-4 GW's, already have KDB, Kane, Kaku:

    A. Firmino & Zaha (15.5)
    B. Jesus & Fraser (16.0)

    1. Belsunz
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        That's what I was thinking... really want KDB & Jesus for those city fixes though, think they will come out all guns blazing scoring 4's & 5's.... liverpool's schedule is a killer

    2. trequartista
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Ah. Would go with A

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Not much support for B! Lol

    3. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        It's a resounding victory for A... might have to give up on the power trio & downgrade Jesus > Bobby

        1. Winston.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Jesus is a great pick though..

    4. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I asked this question earlier (but Firmino and Mhki) and got all Bs ha. I'm going with B I think

  11. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A. Lukaku Gab Salah
    B. Jesus Firmino Salah
    C. Lukaku Firmino Zaha

    1. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      C

  12. Henning
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Am i good to go?

    Maby some United coverage, but dont know how to get one in?

    Have 0.5 in the bank

    Foster

    Ake Azpi Dawson Yoshida

    Zaha KDB Salah JWP

    Kane Jesus

    Elliot Suttner Caroll Mounie

    1. Forza Juventus
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      JWP to Atsu, and upgrade Foster to DDG?

      1. Henning
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        mmmm maby.

  13. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A. JWP + Daniels/Suttner rotation
    B. Carroll + Kolasinac

    A or B?

  14. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Afobe?

  15. FPL Ultras
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    So, here's my team:

    De Gea
    Mee, Cedric, Daniels
    De Bruyne (C), Zaha, Fabregas, Eriksen
    Jesus, Gabbiadini, Kane (V)

    Any thoughts?

  16. Red Rock
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Salah + Ake + Yoshida
    B) Willian + Bertrand + Valencia
    C) Willian + Alonso + Yoshida

    1. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B!

      1. Winston.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        ...or A..lol

        1. Red Rock
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Currently on A but spreading that cash is tempting!

  17. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Pick up Rondon, Afobe, Solanke, or Tammy in a draft league for just GW1?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I got rid of Afobe. Tammy or Afobe.

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rondon

  18. Clueless24
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Choice of Stones or Otamendi?

  19. Clueless24
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Choice of Stones or Otamendii?

  20. The Fed
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Kompany + Atsu

    B) David Luiz + Atsu

    C) Daniels + Ritchie

    D) Dawson + Ritchie

  21. FPL ElasticO
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Best 6.0 forward option....

    1. FDMS All Starz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mounie

  22. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Foster

    Danilo / Cedric / Bavies / Fosu Mental

    KDB / Willian / Alli

    Lukaku / Iheanacho / Jesus

    Subs: Heaton - Iwobi - Carrol - Mee

    That's it. Yep?

    1. Frozen flying mammoth
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Will Fosu Mensah play the first game? Not sure.

  23. King of the north
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Is Austin likely to start? He is the only question mark in my lineup currently......he paid of for me in my classic league last season before he got injured

    1. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      It would appear unlikely.

    2. FPLGyarados
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I swapped him for Gabbidini after their last match.

  24. Citytilidie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any thoughts here:

    1) Kompany / Bertie / Willian

    or

    2) Stones / Alonso / Ritchie???

    1. King of the north
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B minus Ritchie...plus gross

    2. Pigeon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

  25. Dr. DOOM
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Best Lallana replacement for my draft?

    A. Townsend
    B. Ritchie
    C. Chamberlain
    D. Shaqiri
    E. Fraser
    F. JWP

    1. Silicon Vialli
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      D

  26. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    given that im unlikley to play either for a while (alonson, cedric, kola)

    francis or suttner as 4th def??

  27. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Best 5.5def for long term? Except Bertie

  28. PvA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Swansea goalkeeper shirt has changed in game... anyone else notice?

  29. Burd Turglars
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Has the Team News section gone from this site?

  30. Ronnies
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Best pick please ... a or b ?

    a) kolasinac
    b) Kompany

    Tnks