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10 August 2017 2682 comments
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In the words of Cockney prophets Chas & Dave: ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley, Tottenham’s going to do it again’.

This season, in a move that even a dreaming Ossie Ardiles might tire of, they’ll be on their way to Wembley many more times than usual to fulfil 19 Premier League home fixtures while their new stadium is being built.

And the fear is that what Tottenham’s going to be doing again is struggle.

The precedents are not good – West Ham suffered when they moved into their new home last season, while Spurs lost two and drew one of their four European matches at Wembley in 2016/17.

A strong second-place finish last campaign, fuelled by key assets Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, would usually demand our Fantasy attention.

But will the move to Wembley change all that? Will it prompt a right old Knees Up or a case of Ain’t No Pleasing You?

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the fourth of this season’s Burning Questions: Is the Wembley factor really a concern when considering Spurs’ assets?

Peter Kouwenberg (Hall of Fame #1) Says…

A confession: I was one who skippered Kane for the Hull City and Burnley blanks last December before a rare rage-transfer out – just in time to ‘enjoy’ his festive haul of six goals in four matches.

I also became something of an expert throughout the season at swapping Eriksen in and out for Alli, just in time to miss each other’s goals and assists, before finally admitting defeat and bringing in all three players.

As a result, I am the last person qualified to comment on Spurs.

Much has been written about why they do, and may continue to, struggle at Wembley and if I was a Spurs fan, I probably would be a little bit nervous about this.

However, I would be far more fearful of not having Kane in my team, with a match away at newly promoted Newcastle and a home fixture against Burnley sandwiching the Chelsea clash.

I agree that there are viable alternatives – the Manchester City strikers and new boys Alvaro Morata and Alexandre Lacazette could all justify excluding Kane – but I’ll be riding out the first three games at least, after which the fixtures suggest it would be a brave or foolish player not to have at least one Spurs attacker.

Where I think the Wembley wariness will influence me is in not trebling up from the off. Alli was the first name on my first draft team sheet and I still think he (and Eriksen) could continue where they left off last season.

However, wagering over a quarter of my £100m budget on Spurs (including the injured Kieran Trippier) to beat their Wembley hoodoo may be a gamble too far.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

I believe that playing at Wembley for 19 home matches will make a difference, but how much this will affect the Spurs players is impossible to tell.

We simply don’t have a decent sample size of data to confirm how much of a factor Wembley will be. What we do know is that Spurs won 21 of 23 matches played at White Hart Lane last season across all competitions, and you would expect this will be difficult to match this time around.

Given Harry Kane is the most expensive player in FPL, at £12.5m, you have to take into account all factors when fielding a player who uses up such a significant portion of our budget. Playing at Wembley is one such factor.

Kane is England’s number one striker. He’s played at Wembley on a number of occasions, so we’re not talking about a novice with a complete unfamiliarity of his surroundings. What also works in Kane’s favour is that he is a nailed-on starter for Spurs so there is no rotation risk around him.

I believe that in considering Spurs’ assets, you have to play it by ear. What you can hang your hat on is that last season in the Premier League, Spurs had the joint-best goal difference at home and the best goal difference away. This tells you that they’re a very well-balanced team with FPL options across all positions.

They’ve earned the right for us to ignore the Wembley aspect to begin with, particularly with their favourable opening schedule.

But we might need to re-visit the issue once we have more evidence and information.

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

Stadium moves generally negatively affect performance.

Couple this with Spurs, and Kane in particular, being slow starters and there should be caution around their prized assets.

The 6-1 and 7-1 maulings they handed out in the spring were nearly three months ago. Their form – and that of all the other teams – is re-set for the new season and no-one has half an eye on the beach anymore.

I feel Spurs are less likely to win the title this season. Today’s Danny Rose story is symptomatic of the frustration at the club, with some players concerned that rivals have strengthened so much while their only business has made them weaker, ie losing Kyle Walker.

Then again, I’m open to the possibility of my thoughts deriving from confirmation bias.

Pretending Spurs have no options saves a lot of money and makes picking a team easier. There is a stadium move, but they’ve played there before so it’s not completely new. Kane hasn’t scored in August before, but that could mean he’ll score three months worth of goals this August to average it out.

Then there’s Eriksen and Alli who, as a rule, score more points each year. Even if they get ‘only’ this season, I don’t want to be missing out on that.

At the start you can only have so many top players. The tactic I generally use is to see what factors rule players out rather than in. I think Wembley is a big enough concern to put Spurs on hold for now.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

My theory when it comes to Spurs and the ‘Wembley factor’ is that their recent malaise there has less to do with the size of the pitch or the unfamiliar surroundings and much more to do with the fact that it is simply ‘Wembley’.

The venue is synonymous with ‘an occasion’ and, for the visiting teams and their fans, fixtures there take on a cup final atmosphere, irrespective of their actual significance. As a result, Spurs’ opponents typically bring along a larger, louder following and their players raise their game accordingly.

If this is true, then Spurs may have 19 ‘cup finals’ on their hands next season and this could, of course, impact on their players’ performances.

Though I expect Spurs to eventually adapt to their new surroundings and the greater pressure that comes with them, I might be concerned about their results early on in the season.

I’m less concerned, however, with the impact on Spurs as an attacking force.

Even if the results aren’t going their way, I think their usual suspects of Kane, Alli and Eriksen will still find opportunities to score.

The atmosphere might even work in their favour at times, with opposing teams less inclined to ‘park the bus’ in front of a more vociferous than usual away following.

So, while I might avoid their defence for a few Gameweeks at least, I’ll still be backing their attacking assets.

Jonty Says…

Spurs were an unstoppable force at White Hart Lane last season, racking up more shots than any home side and scoring 47 times – a tally only bettered by Chelsea.

In defence, they conceded just nine times in front of their own fans and kept 12 clean sheets – another two records for their 2016/17 stats cabinet.

Given that they effectively play 38 away matches this season, due to Wembley being their temporary home, the theory is that this fine record will suffer.

Leading the charge in pushing this theory are those that study pitch sizes. They will point out that, at 100 x 67 metres, White Hart Lane had the second smallest Premier League pitch last season and Spurs players may struggle to adjust to the extra space afforded by Wembley’s gigantic 105 x 69 metres (7,245 ) of turf.

West Ham’s travails after their move to a larger pitch at the London Stadium last season further strengthen this ‘groundsman’s argument’.

Then there’s Spurs’ track record at Wembley – a stadium where last season they were beaten by Monaco, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea and could only secure a draw against Belgian team KAA Gent. In fact, CSKA Moscow were the only side they managed to beat at the home of English football last season.

But I’m still not buying into the Wembley effect.

The key is that, in Kane, they have a player looking to win the Golden Boot for the third consecutive season and who still scored 12 goals on the road last season – with only Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero scoring more.

In addition, their away record was superb – suggesting the tight White Hart Lane pitch is not needed for success. On the road they conceded a mere 16 times- another record – and scored 39, which was only bettered by Manchester City.

If Spurs fail to replicate 2016/17’s form, it won’t be due to playing at Wembley. It will arguably be more to do with their failure to impress in the transfer market, where they have lost one of their best players in full-back Walker and have been forced to watch in envy as their rivals strengthen.

Paul Says…

Due to Spurs’ tactics under Mauricio Pochettino, I don’t think you can rule out the Wembley issue altogether, or at least in the very early stages.

Spurs play such a high-pressing game that, with more ground and space to cover in their new home, there’s a possibility that energy levels could drop later in matches and they might not be able to close down opponents quite so effectively.

That’s essentially a fitness factor and one that their manager will presumably address by ensuring that Spurs’ levels are even greater than before. It could initially have an impact but, as the season unfolds and the players up their match fitness and become more accustomed to Wembley, I can’t see it being an issue.

Kane’s minutes per away goal last season – which was almost identical to Romelu Lukaku’s at home – underlines that he’s far from reliant on White Hart Lane. At present, he’s the only Spurs player I own as I feel he’s unparalleled as a captaincy pick.

Elsewhere, you can also point to the fact that Alli had more big chances away from home than any FPL midfielder last season. Eriksen, meanwhile, sat first for shots and key passes, and his penchant for efforts from distance is unlikely to be quenched.

Defensively, I’m going to steer clear of Spurs for now and see if they can maintain the same levels of resilience as last season.

But with Burnley, Swansea City and Bournemouth three of their first four visitors, the opening schedule should allow them to settle and give us time to assess any possible Wembley impact.

Mark Says…

While they have been conspicuous by their absence in the transfer market, in many ways it was difficult to strengthen Pochettino’s first XI and, under normal circumstances I’d reluctantly be installing Spurs as title favourites.

But the Wembley factor has to be a consideration and, coupled with the sudden unrest in the camp following Rose’s outburst today, I do have escalating concerns about their prospects.

The pitch size and sense of occasion created by the stadium move is less of a factor than the morale issues for me.

I worry that, with a ready-made excuse for a reduced title bid, the mood in the camp could suddenly plummet further.

One of the main reasons for Spurs’ success last season was the fact that they came across as the most unified and spirited of teams.

But cracks are now appearing and I do feel that the re-location will compound matters.

Having said that, I am still struggling to overlook Kane.

Based on last season’s output, he is peerless as a captain option and while there is explosivity and possibly consistency on offer from Romelu Lukaku and Gabriel Jesus, they are for my money still giving chase to Kane for these qualities .

So Kane will likely get the nod for me, regardless of my concerns.

However, I am unlikely to back him with Eriksen or Alli for fear of over-investment in a side perhaps on the verge of a transition – both in terms of venue and, perhaps, mentality and confidence.

  1. Danny_100
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Choose one please:

    Mane & Fraser

    Or

    Salah & Ritchie

    Thanks

    1. Flynny
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. Forza Juventus
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B,

      Salah and Mane is kind of a coin toss, whereas Ritchie is set pieces and pens and Fraser isn't always nailed.

    3. Danny_100
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I was leaning more towards Salah & Ritchie because points will be shared between Mane & Salah and I think Ritchie will be Newcastle's top point scorer. Thanks

    4. Cleatus
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

  2. DAZZ
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    How come Schlupp is so far forward in the Palace team news? Has got to be an option if he's playing there!

  3. CCaddy
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on this team? A bit different.

    Foster Elliot

    Danilo Dann Daniels Bertrand Dawson

    Kdb mane zaha Carroll RLC

    Kane Jesus gab

  4. Waxys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Milner owners.

    Not a bad shout to invest .5 in Can in case of rotation?

  5. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Team News back tomorrow morning.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/team-news/

    1. Forza Juventus
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Awesome, glad to hear.

    2. ONE PUNCH MAN
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      no cedric?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Who knows.

    3. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks, was wondering where it went.

  6. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    I'm having second thoughts about Lukaku.

    No doubt him scoring goals but Mourinho's teams don't usually thrash opponents. Maybe Jesus instead and captain Kane?

    Anyone else thinking same?

    1. DAZZ
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Im thinking the same, but what if United score 3, chances are Lukaku will be amongst the goals

    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yep thinking maybe Kun and then bring in Mhki but that ownership

    3. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Everton don't thrash teams either and he go th those goals without penalties

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        True but it just feels so boring to have player who everyone owns and most will cap him aswell.

        1. DAZZ
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah i feel forced to have Luk simply because of his 48% ownership, atleast 25% will have him (c). Thats a 1/4 of the game, a big haul could turn out bad!

          1. S.Kuqi
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            Exactly. That ownership is scary but Kane can easily match him as a captain and Jesus ppg was 9

            1. S.Kuqi
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 6 months ago

              +1M extra will do wonders for rest of the team

    4. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      it's still a player who got 25 goals last season.
      slightly better return gpg than the more expensive Zlatan last year.
      For all the talk of Utd not racking up a lot of goals last season it seemed to be more about poor finishing/good goalkeeping rather than not creating chances. Their conversion rate was one of the worst in the league.
      Still going to be a 25-30 goal striker but whether he will be a good captaincy choice is a different story. Seems to score a lot of single goals compared to Kane, Kun and a few others.

    5. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yes but ownership says otherwise.

  7. FPL Emu
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    In a draft league, where money is no issue and things are more long term, would you get Knockaert or Gross

  8. Forza Juventus
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Who you guys captaining in GW1?

    1. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Kaku if I decide to have him and Kane if not

      1. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Lukaku atm if I keep him

    2. Lecky Legs FC
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Aguero

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Lukaku if hes on my team

    4. ACAB
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Kun (c)

  9. Enzo the Baker
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A. KdB + Firmino
    or
    B. Jesus + Salah (costs 1M more)

    I'm leaning towards B because Jesus is a viable captain for GW2.
    Don't see myself captaining KdB or Firmino even if they do well in GW1

    1. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A for me.

      1. Enzo the Baker
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers Galza

  10. Dimen
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    I think I'm doing Kane->Aguero. Really think City will bash in some goals. But I'm afraid because I don't see Aguero in ANY teams.

    1. Lecky Legs FC
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      He's my differential captain for GW 1

  11. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What do u reckon?

    A..bertrand and Fraser

    B...Stephens and Ritchie

    Thanks

  12. the_big_v
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Repost - Got bottomed on a previous page

    I just ditched Kane and I feel like I have balance through my team now. For the first time, I'm happy with my team.

    Appreciate feedback:

    0.5 ITB

    Foster (Elliot)
    Bertrand - Danilo - Daniels (Mee - Rangel)
    Mililojevic - Alli - KDB(c) - Willian (Romeu)
    Jesus - Lukaku(v) - Firmino

    1. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Foster to Forster is an option (see below)

      Danilo>Kompany for me

      Mil needs upgraded imo, Firmino may be roated

    2. LakhaneeFC
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I am going without Kane as well, think Alli is a good enough cover in the initial GWs

      You could potentially take Stephens and use the 1m you have then left to upgrade Mili?

  13. Jamie_GAWA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Thoughts on going for Foster or get Forster instead?

    1. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I've had the same dilema but I think I've finally settled on forster

  14. Red Rock
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Schlupp playing in the front 3 in the predicted team news, is there something i'm missing?

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not nailed in that position

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Still being updated.

      1. Red Rock
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks both, obviously taken with a pinch of salt but great insight nonetheless

  15. Essrick
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Need help to get Firmino! Any ideas?

    Foster/Elliot
    Stones/Stephens/Daniels/Mee/Suttner
    KDB/Salah/Willian/Zaha/Carroll
    Kane/Lukaku/Abraham

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Abraham to Firmino (obvs)
      Zaha/Willian to Atsu
      Lukaku to Jesus (or Stones to 5.0, and Suttner to Long)

  16. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Hart/Elliot
    Bertrand/Bavies/TAA (Mee, Long) +0.5 ITB

    OR

    DDG/Elliot
    Yoshi/Dann/TAA (Mee, Long) +0.5ITB

    Or other suggestions? Lost on last page.

  17. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Its weird that on this site Watford, West ham or Everton may as well not even exist. Good chance we'll receive a reality check from these teams

    1. Roberto Baggio
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Westham exists in the form of little pea mostly . Though I think people forgets Lanzini.

      Nothing to shout abt watford really given the pricing

      Everton will be in ppl mind after first intl wild card. Furthermore , lots of new players needing to gel

    2. FPLGyarados
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Inb4 Capoue hattrick GW1

  18. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What's the members league code or how do I go about joining it.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Member's homepage on the right.

    2. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Sky Sports FFS League
      Name:FFScout Pin: 8300422
      Fantasy Premier League Classic
      League Code: 52537-26799

    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks

  19. Roberto Baggio
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    RMT pls

    Fabianski (Elliot)
    Valencia Walker Daniels Cedric (Mariappa)

    Pogba KDB Zaha (TCarrol)

    Firmino Lukaku (c) Jesus

    1. FPLGyarados
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Could probably do with another midfielder

  20. Z
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Will Trippier be rdy to strat in GW1?

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No

  21. fordy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    RMT please

    Forster
    Jones Stephens Morgan
    KDB Mikhi Ritchie Salah
    Jesus Lukaku Austin

    Subs: Begovic Mee Hegazi Loftus-Cheek
    1m bank

  22. Waxys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    throwback to Cazorla's 12 goals and 13 assists in his debut season.

    When he returns is he a good shout at 7?

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      If he returns

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Might be a while.

  23. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    dannillo or stones?

    1. The Boys 999
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Stones

    2. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Danilo short term

      Stones longer term but will still be subject to rotation if Pep chooses to play a back four.

  24. The Boys 999
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any 4 mil defenders

    1. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No

    2. FPLGyarados
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yes. Keeping benches toasty warm

  25. Dr. DOOM
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Bottomed

    Best Lallana replacement for my draft?

    A. Townsend
    B. Ritchie
    C. Chamberlain
    D. Shaqiri
    E. Fraser
    F. JWP

    Advice appreciated

    1. King Kohli
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Townsend or Iwobi

      1. Dr. DOOM
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks for the reply.
        Went for Townsend even though I own Zaha

    2. Silicon Vialli
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      D

  26. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Stephens or Yoshida? I just can't afford Berty

    1. The Boys 999
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Yoshida

    2. FPLGyarados
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Stephens

  27. LDG
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Here is where I'm at currently what you think chaps?

    Foster (Elliot)
    Bailly | Dawson | Cedric | Daniels (Hunemeier)
    KDB | Ritchie | JWP | (Ince) | (Carrol)
    Lukaku | Kane | Jesus

    Subs too weak? Midfield is possibly a bit low in potential?

    1. thekingiii
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I would say downgrade Bailey and put some more money in the midfield. Possibly Mee frees up cash to upgrade Ince. Otherwise I like it

      1. LDG
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers!

        Just seen Cedric could be a risk (on the FF team pages) so need to sort that out now as well. I might swap Kane to Alli for spurs cover and then have a re-jig

        1. thekingiii
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Cedric almost definitely won't start GW1 - Stephens or Yoshida would be a better bet for the same amount or Bertrand for an extra 0.5m if you can stretch to it

  28. ludaslol
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Newcastle fans, how good are Ritchie?

    1. thekingiii
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      He was good last year for us. However I'm not yet convinced of him in the Prem as he wasn't great with Bournemouth. He's likely on free kicks and pens though

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Hmm, not a massive fan but he seems a decent FPL player. He's so slow though

  29. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    GroS or Ritchie as a 4 mid. Means downgrading my keeper to a 4.5m keeper.

    This is last decision to make thank God.

    1. Pigeon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Ritchie

  30. Red Rock
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Will the lack of Coutinho for Liverpool affect their creativity and attack output? Seemed that they didnt score as many goals last season with him out injured, wondering if starting with Salah or Mane is ideal.