[sbu_large_image] Opinion
20 January 2018 1438 comments
Mark Mark
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Tuesday’s ScoutCast was an “interesting” episode.

It is ironic that we set out to explore how we can escape from achieving identical “template” squads, only to end up exposing just how differently we can all approach the game regardless.

Having reached loggerheads – particularly with Jonty – on risk-taking and early transfers, it prompted me to embark on some navel-gazing.

It made me question why – when so often we agree on the players to pursue – our methods of building a squad and a season from those targets differs so much.

This doubtless enters into realms of psychology and intelligence well beyond my capacity, but I was driven to entertain some theories nonetheless.

Most of all, I found it interesting that both Jonty and Andy would raise their experiences from the previous season as an influence.

Doubtless, we all take lessons from our previous campaigns, but perhaps the season before – our immediate recollection of strategies that succeed and fail – is the major driving force.

It makes sense that, following a “bad” season, we would “hunker down”, minimise risks and adopt a pragmatic approach next time around. This would lead us to perhaps consider player ownership and adhere to the template more rigidly.

Conversely, after a more successful season, we can sometimes react by exploring different approaches to the game, gamble with a few new player theories and reject what appears to be the “norm” on offer.

Looking back on my managerial history, there is a clear pattern.

My worst ever season in 2013/14 is immediately followed by my best. Did my experience of finishing just inside the top 200,000 influence the way approached my next attempt? Almost certainly.

My memories of that miserable campaign include failing to react to Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure as bandwagons and eventual template players. Did I take that as a lesson learned and apply it rigidly, with success, the season after?

I also notice that having finished a giddy 42nd in the world, I then “slumped” to my third worst score in eleven seasons a year later. Was that because I reacted by being more reckless with my methods?

True to form, that unsatisfactory campaign was followed by my second best ever rank last season.

So perhaps I’m locked in this cycle of accepting a strict and disciplined approach as a route to a higher rank, only to rebel against it in the season that follows.

That’s where I find myself now. I’ve perhaps only gone to Jamie Vardy over Roberto Firmino because I’m driven more by the thrill of playing the game, than by an attempt to secure a creditable rank.

It doesn’t feel that way. For me, overall rank is always king, but perhaps subliminally, after a strong season, the maverick gene thrives in me, and I need something more.

Even if I entertain that theory, I don’t think my approach to early transfers will change. For me, that’s now part of my Fantasy manager DNA.

While I know the perils of moving early in the market, the frustration of missing a transfer target by 0.1 will always drive me to exploit opportunities to save cash. I’ll mitigate the situation with two transfers or a strong bench, but I’ll gladly take a risk to protect funds.

I struggle to see how we can preach the template as a route to success, but also claim that there are always strong alternative targets when restricted by budget. That sounds like a “cake and eat it” scenario.

If I take a risk on a differential, I want it to be a decision based on my view of the points on offer, not because I’m 0.1 short of the player I really want.

That’s a no win situation for me. If the differential fails, the frustration of missing out on your original target is huge. If the move comes off, it’s almost a happy accident – a decision made due to budget restrictions, not research and insight. I almost give myself no credit for that.

Perhaps that last statement is key.

Andy may have hit the nail on the head when he remarked that we can get hooked on seeking highs, taking risks with transfers to achieve them.

Perhaps I’m playing to gain credit now – to be able to indulge in self-congratulation. And when the rank from the previous season offers enough reassurance, I let the horses run free in pursuit of moments to form my season highlights reel.

Vardy is off, galloping through the woods with abandon. Firmino is contently grazing back in the stable.

History tells me I’ve probably backed the wrong horse, but this season I need the thrill of those longer odds.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Time to get something else to do and log off here before the 12 year olds use their 2 hours computer time to plague this place .... 😉

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I'm out of here too for the whole day, unless Vardy scores then I will be motivated to go back on

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Totally justified too

    2. Robben Mee Blind
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Lol

      1. Robben Mee Blind
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Or is it just youngsters who are allowed to say that?

    3. MTPockets
        8 years, 1 month ago

        22 is the new 12.

      • FlockofSeagulls
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        OMG, LOL at 12 year olds. 😉

    4. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Come on Alonso and hazard. Want at least 30 points from ya.

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        This

      2. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Come on Alonso & moses...me too want at least 30 points

    5. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Brighton playing 5 at the back? Goldson is a CB

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yep

        1. Hooky
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Alonso v Schelotto could be interesting!

      2. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I thought he’d gone out on loan lol

        1. FPL ZB
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          I thought he was the one who’s retired!

    6. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Kun to score 3 points please lord

      1. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        please... (c) on him for te 1st time this season.

        1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          What?

      2. MTPockets
          8 years, 1 month ago

          2. And give the pt to Rcharlison please.

        • Fantasy Gold
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          3pts is quite difficult to score for a striker

          1. GENERATION X
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            goal booking hauled off at 58

            1. ChelseaGuy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Still 4

              1. GENERATION X
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                darn better say missed pen somewhere!

              2. dark91
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                He can get an assist and be subbed before the 60' mark.
                That should make it 3 😉

                1. dark91
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  With the booking of course for walking out slowly

          2. JustPark
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Quite easy if you TC him 😉

            1. Lukakuna
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              lol

      3. BeDreamin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I need some advice. So.....

        I'm 4th and about 80points behind the leader in my league. His team I currently a standard template like team, as is mine. No one in the league has activated their Jan WC.

        I'm thinking of going off piste in the hope of catching him. If I stay template it will basically come down to captain picks.

        I'm thinking 4-5-1

        Assuming expected transfers take place I'll go:

        Defence template:

        Sterling Salah Sanchez Pogba Mkhit

        Firmino as sole striker.

        Firstly is this a good idea?

        Also Firmino and Sanchez or Kane and Walcott

        1. XabiAlonso
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Don't change for the sake of hoping you do better. Stick to the in form players playing for high scoring teams with the best fixtures.

          1. BeDreamin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            If I do this I'll never catch 80points?

            1. Naboo
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Can catch u 80 points in one month with captain picks alone!!

            2. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              You can catch 80 points in the double Gameweek with bench boost .... you can also lose 80 points in that week too if you blow your chips early 😉

        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Don’t WC now? Save it for the double game weeks with the bench boost

          1. BeDreamin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            I assume Jan wildcard expires at end of Jan?

            1. MTPockets
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Until season end.

              • Fitzy.
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                There hasn't been a January WC for a while.

                1. BeDreamin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  How did I not know this!? That's great news.

          2. MTPockets
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Still many weeks to go. Views differ but I'd stick to your game and let them change things up/make mistakes.

            • Forever In Our Shadow
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              80pts is nothing. Chill man. Im in the same boat and have been almost every year Ive played. As the chaser, it is easier. Wait for them to start to change things. They always do trying to stay ahead of the pack.

            • BeDreamin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Thanks guys

              I do think Mkhit will do well at Arsenal and Walcott at Everton but I'll stick it out and wait and see.

              Much appreciated

          3. El-Kloppico
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Courtois OUT means I have no GK this week.. with Elliot benched.
            Any chance DCL get between the posts?

            Com'on Brighton, break this CS plz.

            1. #FPLBhuna
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Elliot could feature?

          4. diesel001
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Found what I've been looking for.....

            A Chelsea leaked line up before the deadline. Thanks Maxx.

            1. SuperMane Returns
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Maxximum respect.

            2. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Link ?

              1. diesel001
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Check the highest rated post in this article.

          5. Adzy
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Salah (C) who's with me \o/

            1. Robben Mee Blind
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Me on Mo

            2. alfast1c
              • 15 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              i'am, not!

            3. SuperMane Returns
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              ME!

            4. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              \o/......salah(vc) kane(c)

            5. #FPLBhuna
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Me

            6. El-Kloppico
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Ditched you guys just before the gong. Went Salah > Kun(c)

              1. Robben Mee Blind
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Traitor

            7. Ser Bronn of The Blackwater
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              o/

          6. CloudSky
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Cmon Christy, think you owe as a haul mate!

            1. CloudSky
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              us*

            2. arndff_
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Oooh yes

          7. Fantasy Gold
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Kane.

            I need you to score another hat-trick.

            Go clean on fella

          8. Goujon82
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Sterling (C)....Dear Lord!!

            1. Az
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Nice! GL

            2. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Good for you..might pay off

            3. Robben Mee Blind
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Good luck - brave shout

              1. Blaugrana
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Why brave? Newcastle are dreadful and he's on fire all season?

                1. Fantasy Gold
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Rafa will bring 3 double decker buses and a jet plane

                2. Robben Mee Blind
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Brave as in not going for the more popular choices. Big drop in rank if it doesn't come off and at the whim of peps selections

            4. Ragabolly
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Same here! Can backfire though..

          9. Steinburg FC
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            -official- Sterling benched

            1. Az
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              You are naughty.

            2. Steinburg FC
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Dujon Sterling 😉

              1. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                hehe

            3. El-Kloppico
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              gggrrrrr..

            4. GENERATION X
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              easy to fall for this if you cant tell the time

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Yeah I dunno why people take offence.

                Light hearted bants

          10. Ser Bronn of The Blackwater
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            I was thinking of a last minute switch to Kane (C), but I kept faith in Salah (C). Salah has proven great all season, no need to doubt him now.

            1. MTPockets
                8 years, 1 month ago

                I doubted.

              • El-Kloppico
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                The flu might still affect his game though. Was sick all week.

                1. Robben Mee Blind
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Yeah might only get a goal this week

            2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Please pay off Christensen to Alonso -4.

              1. #FPLBhuna
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Rash

              2. Fantasy Gold
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Dunno why you’d do that in all honesty

                1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Because of Alonsos goal threat.

                  1. Fitzy.
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Why didn't you do it with your FT then? Or weeks ago?

              3. 824545201
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Did Azpi to Alonso for a hit.

                1. asquishypotato
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Now that is ridiculous

            3. 824545201
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              I can smell an Alonso 21 pointer.

              1. Fantasy Gold
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Would be absolutely glorious

              2. #FPLBhuna
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                I'd love that

              3. fr3d
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                I still remember that day

              4. MTPockets
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  No way. Just 14

                • @FPL_liverbird (liverpoolfa…
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  I Smell a goal thats for sure

              5. Amphetamine Logic
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                I'm playing Sky, so have Aguero, Kane and Salah as captains this week!

                1. arndff_
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  "as captainS" ?

                  So you can have more than one captain there, or?

                  1. Amphetamine Logic
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Different captains each day.

                    1. arndff_
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      w00t

                      Good luck!

              6. Football Heaven
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                I’m not regretting my wc but can’t wait for blank and dgws. Although my ml leader already played wc and has a poorer team

              7. FDMS All Starz
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Did courtois to Ederson for a hit with Elliot backup, good move or no?

                1. asquishypotato
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Good chance of making 2 points back, but hits for keepers are a rare thing

                2. sentagoda
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Who knows, if he loses cs.. you have lost points anyway. If he keeps cs you have + 2

                3. #FPLBhuna
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Not if Elliot plays and gets 3/4 pts

                  1. fr3d
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Elliot 3/4 pts away to MCI lmaooo

                4. DA Minnion (Former great)
                  • 13 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Yes

                5. El-Kloppico
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  I have Courtois and Elliot too and prefer to go keeperless for this GW. already on -4pts with Morata RC

                6. AndyCook
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Ederson you will need to swap in GW28 again so probably a bit naive

                7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 16 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  This Locadia lad has a decent goals to games record in holland

                  1. diesel001
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    So did Afonso Alves

                  2. El-Kloppico
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    LOL. Reminds me of Depay and Gini goal stat in Holland.

                  3. Fantasy Gold
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    1 goal every 3 games.

                    That’s pretty poor, especially for the dead easy Dutch league

                    1. dark91
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      'Dead easy' ?
                      I wouldn't say so if my league has the likes of Swansea and Stoke 😉

                      1. Fantasy Gold
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        The Dutch league is a cakewalk compared to PL.

                8. Feloh
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Christensen has been a nightmare to own for the past few game weeks. Hope the patience pays off this time.

                  1. FPL ZB
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    I’m already missing him 🙁

                  2. FDMS All Starz
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    You jus know this is the game Chelsea finally concede lol

                9. FPL ZB
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Please please something from Richarlison today. Can’t be dealing with a 2 pointer and 0.4 drop in value

                  1. MTPockets
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      Yeah I've already lost 0.2 and loads of points on him.

                  2. Feloh
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    line ups anyone?

                    1. JustPark
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      Check previous page.

                  3. liverpoolian
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Predictions for today's matches? betting advices?

                    Brighton & Hove Albion - Chelsea
                    Arsenal - Crystal Palace
                    Burnley - Manchester United
                    Everton - West Bromwich Albion
                    Leicester City - Watford
                    Stoke City - Huddersfield Town
                    West Ham United - AFC Bournemouth
                    Manchester City - Newcastle United

                    1. FDMS All Starz
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      0-2
                      2-1
                      1-1
                      3-0
                      3-1
                      1-0
                      3-2
                      20-0

                    2. Galza
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      0-2
                      1-1
                      1-3
                      1-0
                      2-2
                      0-0
                      3-2
                      5-1

                    3. diesel001
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      0-1
                      1-1
                      1-2
                      0-0
                      3-1
                      1-0
                      1-3
                      2-0

                    4. Netley Lucas
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      Brighton & Hove Albion 0-2 Chelsea
                      Arsenal 2-1 Crystal Palace
                      Burnley 0-3 Manchester United
                      Everton 1- 0 West Bromwich Albion
                      Leicester City 2-1 Watford
                      Stoke City 2-0 Huddersfield Town
                      West Ham United 3-2 AFC Bournemouth
                      Manchester City 2-1 Newcastle United

                  4. DAZZ
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    I've lost the plot. Shaqiri (c) time to take gambles! Please

                    1. MTPockets
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Wow. Nice punt though.

                      • GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        1assist 1red card incoming..

                        1. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          Anyways why not play safe and captain kane/salah?

                      • Fantasy Gold
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Wat

                      • El-Kloppico
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        He'll surely score one for u if he reads this.
                        Finally someone trusting him,

                      • markmcr
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Big balls Dazz

                    2. AnfieldLad
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      Whats EO of Chelsea defence in top 10k?

                      Surely everyone has Alonso and some have Christensen so Alonso owners don't want CS?

                      1. markmcr
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Alonso owners constantly hoping for 15 points each week

                        1. XabiAlonso
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          Christensen owners only hoping for 6 tho

                          1. Legomané
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 8 Years
                            8 years, 1 month ago

                            Christensen goal, CS and Alonso yellow/red would be ok

                    3. Differentiator
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      Down to just the BB and FH chips now

                      1. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        TC played

                      2. diesel001
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Got all mine left inc WC

                    4. DA Minnion (Former great)
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      Is it better or worse for hazard that bats starts.

                      1. FDMS All Starz
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Hazard playing left again, not behind the striker so you never know, good chance of points if say

                      2. El-Kloppico
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        He's been pretty bad leading the front line this season

                    5. Scapegoat Salah
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      I think the answer is no but is there any way you can search for someone's team?

                      1. MTPockets
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          There used to be a site (can't remember name) but not any more

                          1. Scapegoat Salah
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 1 month ago

                            Damn, cheers anyway

                        • Feloh
                          • 9 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          email mark

                          1. Scapegoat Salah
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 1 month ago

                            OK thanks

                      2. Old Wulfrunian
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        If Kun scores 2 or even 3 goals today,would you buy him or wait one more week?

                        1. Fantasy Gold
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          He has not been his usual self this season.

                          Happy to go without

                        2. tisza
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          missed the window. Jesus back soon apparently.

                      3. A Team Of James McCleans
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Thanks Courtois

                        1. #FPLBhuna
                          • 9 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          Np

                        2. Fantasy Gold
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          You’re welcome

                        3. El-Kloppico
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          I'd thank Caballero for letting one in.

                          1. A Team Of James McCleans
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 1 month ago

                            Same