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Team of the Season – Raheem Sterling

Raheem Sterling is the second midfielder to feature in Fantasy Football Scout’s team of the season, having finished runner-up to Mohamed Salah in our recent poll.

The Manchester City winger earned 22.2% of the votes, after setting a new personal best score of 229 points in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) this season. That total was 80 points greater than his tally in 2016/17, despite having played just 75 minutes more. Salah was the only player to score more points (303) than Sterling in this campaign.

With 18 goals and 17 assists, he played a part in 33.0% of City’s goals this season: no team-mate was so heavily involved in their 106 league strikes.

Sterling’s starting price of £8.0m was, in hindsight, an absolute steal.

That price looked justified in Gameweek 1, however, with Sterling taking his place on the bench alongside fellow wide-men Leroy Sane and Bernardo Silva. Pep Guardiola’s pairing of Gabriel Jesus and Sergio Aguero up front in a 3-1-4-2 meant that City’s width was provided by wing-backs Kyle Walker and Danilo, with Sterling only appearing as a 78th-minute substitute.

Guardiola’s persistence with that formation led to Sterling once again starting from the bench in City’s following league game at home to Everton.

How different Sterling’s season might have been had Walker not been dismissed just before the break: Sterling appeared as a half-time substitute following a tactical rejig from Guardiola and went on to grab City’s equaliser in a 1-1 draw.

An injury-time winner for Sterling in City’s next fixture against Bournemouth was marred by his subsequent dismissal, having collected a second yellow card for excessive celebration.

Sterling’s price dipped to its lowest of the season (£7.8m) as he sat out Gameweek 4, as did his ownership: a one-match ban prompted just 111,976 managers to hold.

Following his return to the City squad in Gameweek 5, Sterling went on to start in 28 of his side’s 34 remaining Premier League fixtures.

He racked up 40 points in the next four Gameweeks, a tally which included a brace in the 5-0 home win over Crystal Palace and a season-high 15 points in City’s 7-2 demolition of Stoke City.

Confounding worries over rotation, Sterling made 17 consecutive appearances from Gameweek 11 onwards, starting all but one of those matches: the exception being a 33-minute cameo in City’s 0-0 draw at Palace on New Year’s Eve, the second of three league fixtures the Citizens contested in seven days.

Sterling served up ten double-digit hauls across the season, including two ‘hat-tricks’ of 10+ points in Gameweeks 18-20 and 34-36. Only Kevin De Bruyne (16) created more assists than Sterling in 2017/18, meanwhile.

By the season’s end, Sterling was the second-most popular Fantasy asset in midfield, featuring in 27.6% of all FPL teams. A finishing price of £9.1m represented a season-high cost, too.

Salah (113) and Richarlison (74) were the only midfielders to have more shots inside the box than Sterling (67) this season, while a total of 26 big chances was second only to the Egyptian winger (43) among players in their classification.

Sterling’s 263 penalty box touches would also have been a league-high among midfielders were it not for the 32-goal Liverpool man.

A common theme therefore emerges: but for the exceptional performances of Salah, Sterling would have probably been FPL’s player of the year.

Sterling’s total of 19 bonus points was only the fifth-highest in the City squad, with 12 big chances missed and 33 shots off target hurting his score on the Bonus Points System (BPS). An average of 12.3 minutes per Baseline BPS was the worst mean among City’s midfielders this season.

The Prospects

Like Salah, a price increase is to be expected for Sterling next season.

Given that Kevin De Bruyne started 2017/18 at a cost of £10.0m, a rise to £10.5-11m for the England international would raise few eyebrows.

Sterling played more minutes (2584) than Sane (2415) or Bernardo Silva (1514), an indication of his place as Guardiola’s first-choice option on the flank.

Yet the team will continue to evolve over the summer, with the potential arrival of Riyad Mahrez adding to the intense competition for places in the front three.

As always, Guardiola’s tactics will be a significant factor in how we assess the City attack.

Last season, Sergio Aguero and Gabriel Jesus started up front together in four of the first six Gameweeks before an injury to raiding left-back Benjamin Mendy forced a re-think as City switched to 4-1-2-3.

Indeed, Sterling could also offer an option through the middle if his manager goes with two frontmen.

On the downside, a World Cup campaign with England may affect the time he has to recuperate ahead of next season, depending on their progress in the tournament.

Sterling would not be the only City player at risk of fatigue: 17 players on the club’s books will head to Russia this summer.

Potentially, then, that could lead to more rotation at the start of the campaign.

Yet the potency of Guardiola’s attack means that even when his minutes come under threat, Sterling is likely to remain a risk worth taking.

He started just 29 league matches last year – with four outings off the bench – but he still finished runner-up to Salah. His total of 229 points was 20 ahead of City’s second-best De Bruyne, who started 36 matches by comparison.

While the Belgian will remain the most secure of City’s big-hitters, then, Sterling’s improved output under Guardiola could see him again emerge as their go-to option.

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  1. New player positions in FPL?
    Twelve years a slave
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    • 13 Years
    5 years, 11 months ago

    Does Fpl needd more categories? Attacking and defensive mids, Full backs and centrebacks

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      No. Keep it simple.

      1. Legomané
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        • 6 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        I agree to an extent with this.

        I would however be open to separate categories of player within the standard 2-5-5-3 setup.

        Owning a maximum of 2x Full backs for example, could lead to diversity within the defensive position.

        Also, creating DM position with specific extra pts for these players could unleash lots of extra players to our disposal.

        Keeping the game simple on the surface but with intriguing underlying complexities would be fantastic IMO.

        1. Legomané
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          It would be interesting to break down each of the positions from the point of view that you reward specific things for each, on the basis that you scrap the BPS system.

          GK stays the same obvs, and FWD's are kept more or less as they are.

          Defenders could be split into (1)FB/WB's and (2)CB's with extra points for each position for racking up crosses etc for wide players and interceptions etc for CB's.

          Middies could be split in two with DM's and CM/AM/wingers. DM's could get pts for multiple interceptions etc, and 2pts for a CS. Other mids get 0 for a CS, but rewarded more for attacking play, attempted assists, shots etc.

          It would be quite an interesting concept to develop, for me the driver should be the thought that 'more pts = more fun'. Creating a more varied approach to how you can play the game (more players as valid options) would also increase the fun.

          1. WesMantooth
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            With these features added, I'm certain that the game wont feel the same. Maybe have a look ath the other fantasygames and see if they offersomething Closed to what your suggesting? My initial thoughts to your suggestion is that a) the game wont feel the same anymore, and b) there would be more similarities amongst teams, cuz structure would make it easier to identify the "top prospects" in the different slots.

            1. Legomané
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              • 6 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              I'm not talking serious structural changes, just subtle classifications of players within the overall bands of 2GK 5DF 5MF 3FW that we already have. 2pts for a CS for a DM is just a small variation to the current structure we have (4pts for a DF cleanie, 1pt for a MF). The 'bonus' pts would be an expansion of 'save' pts for GK's. Always Cheating podcast we're talking along similar lines on a recent pod, suggesting something along the lines of an extra 1pt for every 5x clearances+interceptions.

              Basically the mechanisms for pts stay the same and familiar to users, just some additions to how pts are scored, and removal or simplification of the bonus system.

              1. Tacalabala
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Too confusing, I suspect it'd lead to a stronger template tendency if you sub-categorised that way as well.a

                1. Legomané
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                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  😆 🙂 it's no more confusing than what we already have really.
                  If it opens up DM's as an option for a start that increases the options and diversity. Just imagine if Kante had 15pt potential 😮

                  1. WesMantooth
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    The bps system could make him an option at his current pricepoints. Dont need to give him 7 different ways to rack up points, just to give him the opporunity of scoring 15pts.

                    If bps took care of def mids the same way they did others, wed belooking at Kante as a possible 5th mid being able to average 3.5-4pts pr game.

                    1. Legomané
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                      • 6 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      The BPS system can't do this, because it is limited in that it can only crudely award 3 of the players a bonus.

                      I'm not suggesting 7 new ways...I'm suggesting he gets 2 instead of 1 for a CS, and that he accrues an extra pt for every 5 clearances and interceptions...or something along those lines. That's just a minor tweak in reality.

                      1. Legomané
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                        5 years, 11 months ago

                        Also, Kante's ceiling under your suggestion would be 6 pts (assuming he's incapable of goals or assists).

                        Fernandinho would be very interesting route into city team priced at say 7.0m as a DM, with 2pts for CS, pts accrued for defencive play and a bit of goal threat. Could easily rival the current crop of mid priced middies

              2. WesMantooth
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                "just subtle classifications of players within the overall bands of 2GK 5DF 5MF 3FW that we already have."
                -I think this will lead to B.

                2pts for a CS for a DM is just a small variation to the current structure we have (4pts for a DF cleanie, 1pt for a MF). The 'bonus' pts would be an expansion of 'save' pts for GK's.
                - I think these additions/variation would lead to huge differences in player totals, resulting in a need of a lot of changes to playerpricing, giving the whole game a different "feel" even though the main scoring systems stay the same.

                1. Legomané
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                  • 6 Years
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                  Well, obviously it would require more thought than the back of my cigarette packet 🙂 I'm sure FPL have the resources and statistics af hand to develop a credible system. They have a good track record. It's not as if the current game doesn't have its underlying complexities! Honestly don't feel what I'm musing varies much from its current form.

                  1. WesMantooth
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    I might come off a bit harsh. Its an interesting discussion. Just think the picture you painted might very well lead to a scenario where players like Azpil and Alsonso could be getting the same amount of pts as Harry Kane. Should they all be valued @ 12.5 if that happens?

                    I'm being overly critical. Sorry.

                    1. Legomané
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                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      It's all good chat. When I pitch it to FPL I'll need to be ready for the fiery backlash 😉

                    2. Legomané
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                      I don't think that would really be the case TBH. But It would need far more work and study than I've given it to see the type of impact on scoring we'd see, and any impact on pricing etc. Theoretically what you could see would be certain DM's prices increasing if they became the Azpi or Marcos of that position. Naturally they wouldn't all suddenly become premium options

    2. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      Would spice up the game a little. Defensive mids maybe scoring an extra point if making x amount of tackles, or passes. Wouod force us to have to pick from a pool of players that currently are ignored for Fantasy purposes.

      Would also solve the issue of players like Salah being being reclassified as strikers.

      1. Hooky
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Kante would be essential

      2. Numb
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Nah, I think it'd be boring having to have a defensive midfielder and have to "cheer" sideways passes or tackles.

      3. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        The simplest way to spice up the game is get rid of DGWs. Make them SGWs. It will make the strategy around chip use far more interesting.

        1. Ógie
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          • 11 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah i think that could be the way to go Diesel.

        2. StoichkovFPL
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          this!

      4. WesMantooth
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        This could easily be solved by the bps-system in my view.

    3. Ógie
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      • 11 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      It would make things more complicated would not suit casuals and play into the hands of hard core fpl players.

      There is enough arguments about what positions players should be classed in as it is,a move like that would only multiply these debates.

      Keep it simple and use price structure to suit players output is the way to go i reckon.

    4. WesMantooth
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      Don't think it needs the category's you're suggesting.

      If they get the pricing right it doesn't matter wether a player is classified a striker or a midfielder in my view. This has'nt been the case though. At least not in my view.

      The only thing that could/should get changed, is making bps-metrics work in favour of the out and out defensive midfielders. Almost every single team in the league has either 1 or 2 players that's almost indefensible to own, because the only things affecting their score are cards and the possibility of cs-point. The defensive metrics of the bps-system should award more pts to the mids.

    5. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      We could do with some change to spice things up

    6. Epic Fail
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      • 13 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      No, there are other games out there that people can play if they want something different. FPL doesn't need to change.

    7. MTPockets
        5 years, 11 months ago

        No, just apportion bps differently to account for them.

      • TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        No, just sort the bonus system for workrate.

      • Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        No

      • FPL Virgin
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        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Interesting to hear on the scoutcast that Mark has been 'lobbying' for this.

        I'm against the idea. It's a struggle to offer a decent choice of Forwards, for example. Introducing new sub-positions would only exasperate the problem.

        1. Tacalabala
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Not a fan either, getting in OOP players is part of the challenge.

          I don't really see why people get upset about BPS, it's the best system we've ever had.

          The only change I'd make is to give a point for every three interceptions in a game, it would make Kante a better value prospect.

          1. WesMantooth
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            But thats just adding new things to the game, and then there will be outcries for different changes. The bps is there to akward the best players of the game. Im not saying the one weve got is awful. Just saying that its not currently doing what its set out to do, awarding the best players of the game.

            Would'nt even need that much tweeking tbh. Just need to find away of properly rewarding the defensive midfielders on the same lvl other players are able to be rewarded.

            No need for interception points, bps should cover it.

            1. Tacalabala
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Which players specifically are and aren't awarded bonus correctly in your view?

              This season's totals seem about right to me.

              1. WesMantooth
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Well, Matic is one.
                Only got 3, which was only cuz of his goal.
                Kante is another.
                Got 9, but only 2 in gms where he didnt score/assist.
                Fernandinho
                Got 9, but none in the gms in which he didnt score/assist.

                Idrissa Gueye, Dembele, Can, Milivojevic+++++

                1. Tacalabala
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  Can't agree, all those players are fantastic at doing the basics well, but if the fellas behind or in front of them aren't on it, they can't change the game, none of them will win you a game of football alone. Bonus should be going to players who make a real difference to the outcome of games, I think it does that now.

                  I remember when Barry Ferguson was a shoe-in for bonus whenever he played at St Andrews, win lose or draw, it was ridiculous.

              2. Yozzer
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                It's not that they adding them up wrong. The whole scoring system is ridiculous. Players getting baps

                1. Yozzer
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  For an assist like Groß when the likes of salah and sterling get goal and assist and don't even get 1. Stupid system

                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    Did Groß get bonus vs Pool or City? The answer is no.

                    1. Yozzer
                      • 6 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      That's just one example though. Sterling and Salah run the show as much as or if not, more than Groß does. They get wrongly punished for basically having a go. Time the system gifted baps for the best players on the pitch.

                      1. TorresMagic™
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                        Salah and Sterling scored the most points this season. Doesn't that tell you something? Bonus points aren't add ons for goals/assists, they are all round contributions including failed big chances on scoring.

                        1. Yozzer
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          No they are not but surely they should be there for the best players or the players who contribute most to the game. Anyone who scores a goal and assiat have contributed more than some guy who passes the ball side to side and wracks up the baps that way then sneaks a poxy assist that FPL pluck out their arse

                          It's annoying how a player can take about 3 players on and miss the target after a brilliant effort but is then punished with a SOT

                          Salah and sterling miss a lot but they get in space to get them chances. Should they be punished? Sterling missed a lot I know but he was brilliant most of the time and once again...punished

                        2. TorresMagic™
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                          May as well just add a point for every goal/assist if you think the bonus system should just be a continuation of the scoring system. Defenders deserve perhaps a 1 in a 1-0 win if 2 attackers share the goal/assist. Had Salah/Sterling scoring more of those clear cut chances, they would have scored much more and got more bonus.

                        3. Yozzer
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Well id rather go back to the way it used to be before this system came in but I know it will never happen.

                          I just prefer it if the best 3 players on the pitch got baps. Whatever they need to do to make that happen I'm behind.

                          Look how crap Phil Jones is yet he's a beast in FPL. I'd rather it reflect true life myself

                        4. Roosta
                          • 6 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Both of these players dribble a lot, and are consequently tackled a lot.
                          Being tackled is generally not what you like to see, and they are punished for it.
                          Successful dribbles are often very positive, leading to goals and assists.

                          I don't think it's correct to look at the bad dribbles in isolation and conclude that the universe is being unkind.

                        5. TorresMagic™
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                          In PL games where he played 60+ minutes last season, 15 CS from 22.
                          De Gea helped in plenty of them later in the season. Only 4 CS from 15 when Jones didn't play.

          2. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Kante made 85 interceptions last season.

            1. Tacalabala
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Potentially 28pts.

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
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                Plenty of wastage there as he wouldn't get multiples of 3 all the time.
                It's bad enough counting keeper saves.

                1. Tacalabala
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  Saves (and interceptions) shouldn't be a second bonus system for defensive play, just acknowledging that these players are less likely to score and assist.

            2. WesMantooth
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Yup!

              Then there's loads of defenders ranging from 50-70 interceptions. Interception points would only likely lead to defenders being even more valuable compared to other positions.

              What they should do, is prob look at the defensive metrics and add different value based on positions.

              As an example, defenders "naturally" Get more clearances and blocks due to the nature of their positions, and therefore, every time a Clean sheet happens, they look poised to get bps. But who's to say the work of the defensive midfielder was'nt more crucial to getting that CS?

              1. Tacalabala
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                What's wrong with defenders being more likely to get bonus if they achieve a cleanie? It's pretty much their primary role in the side, if you cut down on rewarding BPS for that you're going to make it very hard for defenders that don't score or assist to ever get bonus.

                Interceptions would give a leg up to Kante and his DM colleagues https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/interception

                1. TorresMagic™
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                  • 14 Years
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                  You would have to award 1 point for 3 interceptions to defenders too.

                  1. Tacalabala
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    Yep, defenders are under rewarded for this part of their play at the moment.

                    1. WesMantooth
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      They are'nt. Its one of the categories decisive for defenders being bps-hogs everytime time teams Get cleans. Bps got them covered.

                2. WesMantooth
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  Nothing wrong with it. Its not that they shouldn't be awarded for it, its that players who also have a definitely defensive role dont Get rewarded in the same manner. Kante might be just as pivotal as Azpi to cfc getting cleans, but usually gets 4-5 pts more.

                  The bps is and should be the only way to reward these types of players, but currently the adaptation of the system doesn't cover it. They have to Get a goal or assist to Get baps, which as you pointed out, isnt their job. All players within the game gets rewarded by the bps-system for doing their job, except the def mids.

                3. WesMantooth
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  Nothing wrong with it. But keeping cleans and defensive responsibilities are also the main role of many midfielders too. Should'nt bps reflect that in the same way for these types of players?

                  1. Tacalabala
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    But if the keeper and/or defenders are having a stinker, the defensive midfielder won't be able to stop a rout, they need the fellas behind them to give them the confidence to take on the opposition and create new attacking phases of play.

                    1. WesMantooth
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      The def mid having a stinker might be just as detrimental to the teams defence as a CB having a stinker. It might also be detrimental to the offense as players like Kante turn defensive actions in to offensive gains for his team by winning the ball in drudial parts of the pitch, which leads to a counterattack.

                      If defensive midfielders didnt have any any part in what ultimately happens at the back and in offense, then they wouldnt be a part of the game. I'm really stuggling to buy any stock of your logic.

                      1. Tacalabala
                        • 13 Years
                        5 years, 11 months ago

                        And what, ultimately, is a big tool in the DM toolbox, for doing the above you describe? Interceptions. Kante is a bloody nightmare to play against again this past season, and he actually made slightly more interceptions than in 16/17 but it hasn't changed the fact that Chelsea have dropped five places in the league. He can't make the difference when the defenders aren't focused and Morata and Hazard have gone missing for large portions of games.

                        1. WesMantooth
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Utd added 5 more CS and a whole lot of pts to their former total from last season after adding Matic this season

                          Kante and cfc struggled to replicate their previous outputs after losing him.

                          Just because their work is'nt as visible as the players scoring goals ore, the goalies making saves, defenders making last sitch tackles etca, does'nt mean their effort on the pitch are'nt just as valuable.

                          Overingeniør all that ground and pressing their opposition, stopping counters, holding the ball, winning the ball of the opponent in hurtful parts off the pitch, allways remaining a passing option. Theres so much work that needs to be done by the dm's and there should be a way for them to be rewarded without needing to be on pens like Luka.

                        2. WesMantooth
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          *covering *last ditch tackles

                        3. Tacalabala
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Matic going did hurt Chelsea, but he was playing a more advanced role that season for Chelsea then for United now. They haven't replaced him or adapted to his absence, which explains why Conte was so upset to lose him.

                        4. WesMantooth
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Bah,
                          Sure. Maybe more advanced, but still a holding/densive mid, whos talents definately consists of defensive arts. So you've admitted to Matic leaving hurt cfc and contributing to utd's result?

                          Is it than fair to say that def mids acutaly have an impact on the outcome of any given game?

                        5. Tacalabala
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Chelsea also lost Costa. United signed Lukaku. My point is that you can't adjust the BPS in the way you're advocating because you'd be taking points off someone like Lukaku and Jones, to give to Matic in his more defensive role now, when if the former pair have a great or bad game that is going to be far more likely to determine the outcome. I'm just saying interception points would avoid you needing to rub Peter to pay Paul.

                        6. WesMantooth
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          I'd like Peter to Get more pts than Paul if Peter was the one who deserved it the most.
                          No need to inflate the game with more pts imo.

      • Pirlø's Pen
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Doesn’t need to change.

        Hate this idea personally!

        1. Pasqualinho
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I mentioned to Mark that I thought the DMs should simply be classified as defenders. Then he gets his attacking midfielder category (although they’re just called ‘midfielders’) and the structure of the game doesn’t need to change at all.

          1. WesMantooth
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            This idea actually does'nt sound to crazy. A lot of midfielders could actually be classified as defenders for all purposes regarding their role within the team.

            1. Pasqualinho
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Too crazy? It’s not crazy at all. And so simple. Kante, Dier, Matic (for example) at the moment are a waste of pixels in the game. But make them 7.0M/7.5M defenders and they become options.

              1. XabiAlonso
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                This makes sense, price should vary with defensive quality of the team. this is a great suggestion

              2. WesMantooth
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Indeed it is. But it might be perceived as "too big of a change"?

                I dunno. Still feel that some adjustments to the bps system might just make the dm's worth having at their current pricepoints.

                1. Pasqualinho
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  It’d claim it isn’t a change at all - The game structure stays exactly the same. Did you know that Kompany was a 5.5 midfielder in his first FPL season? A lot of people didn’t. He wasn’t a very popular pick either (not surprisingly). So the reclassification does have a precedent.

                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    To be fair to FPL - https://www.transfermarkt.com/vincent-kompany/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/9594/plus/0/saison/2007/wettbewerb/L1/verein/41
                    Limited info and DM was his most popular position prior to Man City.
                    All those DM's mentioned aren't defenders.

                    1. TorresMagic™
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                      • 14 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      Had they checked the games with no position, he was an obvious defender.

                    2. Pasqualinho
                      • 14 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      not really my point. I’m not criticising FPL Towers for putting him there, I’m more applauding their decision to realise that it was better to put his price up and have him as a defender.

                      1. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 14 Years
                        5 years, 11 months ago

                        He played as a defender for that 1st season at Man City so of course he was getting changed. Same as Milner this season due to the prior season. Not a precedent thing when you play that position for the majority of the previous season whereas Kante etc aren't in the back 3,4 or 5.

                  2. WesMantooth
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    And i'd say your claim is true. But just because wer'e at the same page doesn't mean that everyone else is. Perception is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure that there's plenty of FPL-managers who would raise and eyebrow and start pointing fingers if 20-30 mids got reclassified.

                    I think your suggestion is a great way of bringing life to these kindof players. i'm merely suggesting that bps could do the same at their current pricepoints. With an extra 20pts to his name from bps, a 120+pts 5.0 Kante would offer value to the exten that he could be a decent 5th mid option.

              3. Yozzer
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Yer they are pointless. Until like I say, baps are given to the best players on the pitch it will not change. Kante should be in the baps like Essien used to be but not with this crazy system. I do like your idea also

            2. Tacalabala
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              The only issue is that Firmino and the like would have to be pulled into the midfielder pool, because you'd have no justification not to. It'd make the forwards a shallow category.

              1. WesMantooth
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Why would firmino and other strikers need to be reclassified?

              2. Pasqualinho
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                You’ll have to run that one by me again. I don’t see why having a bigger pool of viable defenders to choose from would mean that some forwards would have to become midfielders.

                1. Tacalabala
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  They were questioning on the Scoutcast about why Firmino wasn't a mid. If you wholesale move a bunch of mids to def, FPL would have to do the same for forwards like Firmino because they aren't forwards in the 'classic' definition either. It would be very inconsistent not to apply the same principles across categories. Also, logically you'd have classify Alonso as a mid if his heatmap is anything to go by, and I can't see anyone advocating that.

                  1. WesMantooth
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    Which they have every right to do, because its possible to argue both the case for him bein classed both a striker and a mid.

                    But this is besides the point. Reclassifying Firmino did'nt put him in the elephant graveyard. He was still considered a good asset ahead of the season due to lack of other good alternative at his pricepoint, and he became an ever bigger asset when he hit form and became part of the template.

                    The issue being discussed is how perfectly good players are'nt really a part of the game. How could some players like Kante, once considered player of the year not even be relevant to FPL that season?

                  2. Pasqualinho
                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    I don’t think they’d ‘have to’. If you bring a load of strikers back there wouldn’t be many left to choose from, which was almost certainly one of the reasons why Firmino got classified last season. I don’t think claiming it to be inconsistent is a very persuasive argument either. There’s already enough inconsistencies in the game to worry about that (your point on Alonso being consistently further forward than Kante a great example).

      • Pointless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        How about just two categories: Defensive players (defenders and DMs) who all score same as Defenders now. And Attackers (attacking midfielders and forwards) who all score same as Forwards now.

        1. Tacalabala
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Becausd you could then theoretically play a formation of 1 keeper and 10 mids, which is stupid.

      • Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        No, go and play a different game

      • M Heaney
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        no NOOOOO!

      • RichRover
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        With all respect, why do people seem to always want to change THIS game. Defensive Mids, Wingbacks, more attacking positions, bonus point allocation?
        If you want the game to be like the other games - play those instead, but leave this one as is. It's the simplicity of the game that many enjoy, and probably attracted them to it in the first place.
        If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
        Just my opinion.

      • jwong23
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Need more categories for forwards, not mids / defenders

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Ones that score goals and ones that don't?

        2. WesMantooth
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          This makes no sense. Why should the smallest pool of players, bar goalies, be divided in to several categories?

      • I Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        It's a hard no from me.

      • Roosta
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        I think its fine that the points system disincentivises defensive midfielders. They aren't fun to own and the game and it would be extremely difficult to follow how well your players is doing without using a 3rd party app. FPL is about making football more fun to follow, the simpler the better.

        1. WesMantooth
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Following bps development should give an idea?
          Think its a shame that some of the best players in the league are'nt really a part of the game.

          That said, I Get your point. Its more fun celebrating goals and figuring out who got the assist. But is it really that fun rooting for teams to keep a clean? That's also a big part of the game.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            We all need to pick defenders who we know don't always score goals. Clean sheets are their bread and butter.

            1. WesMantooth
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Yup,
              But we shouldn't be forced to pick def mids with strukturalismen changes cuz their currently dead. But its also a tragedy that the current format "dont allow" them to be considered assets. Maybe its less fun having these players, maybe its more fun being able to identify value omfatte these players, maybe it more fun giving all players "a chance" to be an asset.

              I believe that small alterations to the current bps-system would be worth it, but completely understand if others dont want to change this beautiful game.

              1. WesMantooth
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                *structural

              2. Legomané
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                If only there was a way to create a DM position within the overall Midfielder bracket 😉

          2. Roosta
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            I accept your point re clean sheets, although that is at least connected to goals being scored (albeit goals against you). I think it would be a bit weird to start awarding points for the amount of pressure a player applies, for example.

            DMs are basically a nub trap for beginners, I think its fine and kinda important for bad options to be available in the game - that's how experienced players get an advantage.

            1. Legomané
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Quite a good point about there being 'bad' options in the game. Creating a DM category wouldn't destroy this though, there will always be back options. Kevin Wimmer for example 🙂

              1. Roosta
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Amusingly, I do a lot of spreadsheet work estimating points returns and player values blah blah blah. Basically I'm a massive nerd.

                Anyway, I estimate Ngolo Kante to be worth roughly £2.5 million.

                I think they could quite easily make a lot of these DMs £4 million, it would place a lot more tension on player selection and might make the game more diverse. You would see a lot of them in bench slots, which might be a perfectly decent way to incentivise them, rather than a structure overhaul.

                1. WesMantooth
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  Make them 4m!
                  Great suggestion!

            2. WesMantooth
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Sure.
              I'll buy your logic. Dms not being assets doesnt ruin the game. Theres a pool 500+ players to pick from. Missing 20-30 of the due to the scoring of the game doesnt affect the game all that much. Just a shame when you know just how good some of these players are.

              But would rather have them dead than change the game to much.

              1. Roosta
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Lets be brutally honest here. There are, in theory, 500 players in the game, but the FFS/Reddit community will usually whittle this down to a collection of about 20 players that make up 95% of all of our teams.

                1. WesMantooth
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  20 seems about harsh?

                  But yeah. The active "player pool" is maybe something like 250? A lot of them can be cast asked ahead of the seaso, and as the season progesses that pool again narrows. But 20 might be an exaggeration no? Maybe halfway were down to something like 30-40 options worth considering?

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    250 if you are ambitious.
                    20 teams, 11 players.

                    1. WesMantooth
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 11 months ago

                      Yup which makes 250 active sound ok.

                      As for "nailed on" the pool is considerably lower.

                      1. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                        • 14 Years
                        5 years, 11 months ago

                        An average of 3 players a team makes 60. West Ham for example is Arnie or don't bother.

                        1. WesMantooth
                          • 13 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          Im sure we prob have somewhat the same idea of the size of the pool of players worth considering 🙂

                        2. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                          • 14 Years
                          5 years, 11 months ago

                          The defensive mids fit that category. Make them all 4.5 to try and get interest.

      • SweepaKeepa
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        I would love a squad of:
        2 x gk (start 1)
        3 x fb/wb (start 2)
        3 x cb (start min. 2)
        2 x dm (start min. 1)
        3 x am (start min. 1)
        2 x strikers (start min. 0)

        The variety of (more realistic) formations would be more interesting for me.

        1. Legomané
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          The issue here is keeping on top of injuries or rotation. I think you'd need to remain flexible as to starting min 3x defenders rather than 2 of one type 2 of another. Recipe for frustration and freak week's where you can't field a full XI but have playing players on your bench.
          Think my suggestion above resolves this.

          1. SweepaKeepa
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Your point is valid, but I think closer management, tougher transfer calls would actually make it more interesting for me. Although I understand I’m not representative of the 6m other players here.
            Also, seeing line-ups with 3 left backs as a defence annoy me!

            1. Legomané
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              That's the issue. Any complexities should be kept to the scoring of the game rather than the management from the users side. Ideally the game should be as simple to 'play' as possible.

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Just looks like more of a template forming.

      • Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Nice hot topic. I've been thinking about this too since the season ended. Am considering creating my own app even 🙂

        I've read through everyone's comments and there looks to be a best of both worlds option - except for those who want to keep the game exactly as it is.

        You could have more categories of player BUT not enforce ownership of those positions. So, you could play a 4231 formation with 2xCB, 2xFB, 2xDM, 3xAM and 1xCF but if a DM didn't play, he'd be autosubbed for any other player while maintaining a legal formation. Want to be the FPL equivalent of Pulis? Go ahead and play 4xCB's.

        So how is this different to what we have today? Well, each category of player scores differently.

        CS points
        GK - 5
        CB - 4
        FB - 3
        DM - 2
        MF - 1
        AM and CF - 0

        This is no different to how points are awarded for goals, when you stop to think about it.

        I'd also like to see multipliers, so if you play a defensive formation, you're awarded bonuses for X players keeping a CS. Or if playing an attacking formation, a bonus multiplier for attacking returns. But that might be a step too far for some people 🙂

      • Eden Wizard
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        This already exists. It's called price.

      • tisza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        i'd be concerned about the economics of it.
        You create smaller groups and the price ranges will increase.
        e.g. Kante a star DM (but a less than average current mid pick) would go from a 4.5m player to a 5.5-6m player.
        Going to put pressure on a 100m budget.

      • HNI
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        I think GK Defender DM Midfielder Forward is best. Specially give 3Cs points instead of 4 for CDMs so they will get recognition in epl as well

      • Whitby_Chip
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        One way to increase the pool of players available to us, without introducing new positions, is to reclassify the classic DM as a defender. Given their relative importance to their teams keeping a clean sheet, it strikes me that players like Kante, Dier etc deserve more than a single point here. Thoughts?

      • Freddo
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Not sure if they need to do anything with attacking players, the way they price those players is enough but they do need to look at sectioning off the DMs.

        Football has changed a lot since the game was launched, they need to find a way of scoring that makes DMs more attractive as we are losing a massive amount of mids who are otherwise seen as useless as picks.

        Points for tackles like keepers get for saves might be a simple way of doing it.

      • MrKlin of Norway
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Not so sure we need more categories, as that in itself would be detriment to the "casual" players, an important factor for the size and scope of FPL is the surface simplicity making it approachable for all, but with depths and strategies that lets serious players go deeper and grab margins and edges.

        I'd rather look at underlying point mechanics that open up the player scope more, and have before mentioned the Swedish Allsvenskan-approach to the bonus points, i.e. ditching the 1-2-3 BP's completely and rather taking the BPS benchmarks, breaking down numerical goals withing those to add points from the bonus system to the players.

        Example: Kanté plays the whole match, they keep a clean sheet. 1CS point + 2 Play points. He does not score, but team scores 1, so goalscorer and central defenders are usually well rewarded in todays system. In this system he'd likely have done several intercepts/tackles himself... let's say he gets 7, and the system gives points for every 3.... he gets another 2 points for that work. Now let us say he made a through-ball to Morata, who messes up an absolute cracking sitter. He still gets rewarded 1 more points for what SHOULD have been an assist (and Morata gets penalised 1 point for missing that). Now we have him up at 6 points, and considering the prices a DM usually have, I'd be quite happy with that.

        Now that the game creators have 2 more games of the same format, but with variations in things like bonus and chips going on, they should pay close attention and learn from stuff working great like this system. To the casual, they still see the surface stuff like clean sheet and minutes played, as well as 2 lines of off.bonus (1 point) and def.bonus (2 points), and thats fine, they can stay casual with that. For others (like us) we can dive into the stats and analyse these equally to how we track and discuss BPS today.

    8. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling deservedly in team of the season. Saw an interesting piece by Gary Neville which showed his numbers were similar to Thierry Henry and Cristiano Ronaldo at a similar age. Can Raheem show the dedication to get closer to their level?

      http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11334143/gary-neville-can-raheem-sterling-match-thierry-henry-and-cristiano-ronaldo-for-goals

      1. Hooky
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Is he ever going to stop missing sitters? Don't remember Henry or Ronaldo missing many chances when they were younger. I don't think he'll ever be in the top bracket of players because of his lack of composure and limited football brain.

        1. FFFrog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I agree he will never be a Ronaldo or Henry, but could well get 20+ goals a season repeatedly under Guardiola, his composure is not naturally brilliant but it's being improved by coaching and his football brain is much better than many believe imo

          1. Debauchy
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            With Man City he gets far more chances than the illustrious comparisons.Half the player but with double the chances he can almost match I guess

        2. diesel001
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I like this:

          "Raheem Sterling is not a very good kicker of a ball. Could he take a corner? It is a simple thing. Could he put a corner onto the six-yard box whipped in every single time? The answer is no."

          1. Je suis le chat
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Messi and Ron don't take corners. That's Kane's job!

        3. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          100% agree.

        4. WesMantooth
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Think his ability to Get in an absurdly amount of scoringchances is proof that the football brain bit is a myth. His finishing is a different matter though....

    9. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      England's best player, Raheem. Strangely underrated, while the likes of Dier is criminally overrated.

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        We don't know how to use Sterling. Pep figured it out - he isn't a good passer so he gets Sterling in the box to pass it sideways to a teammate (assists) or shoot (goal).

        Dier is a simple player - he makes tackles and passes it. He does need to work on the forward passing. But we need defensive midfielders like him as we don't have many tacklers.

      2. Debauchy
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Well if he is indeed England's best player , then it's same old same old , next WC will be better

        1. Je suis le chat
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          England are nicely balanced without major egos. Could win the tournament.

          1. Fantastisk
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Lol

    10. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 11 months ago

      An Egyptian lawyer has launched a €1 billion (£873m/$1.2bn) lawsuit against Sergio Ramos after Liverpool and Egypt star Mohamed Salah was injured in a challenge with the Real Madrid captain during Saturday's Champions League final.

      In an appearance on Egyptian television channel Sada El-Balad , Wahba announced he had filed a complaint to FIFA and accused Ramos of a deliberate act and inflicting "physical and psychological harm" upon a nation and its most celebrated footballer.

      "Ramos intentionally injured Mo Salah and should be punished about his actions," he claimed. "I've filed a lawsuit and a complaint to FIFA.

      "I'll ask for compensation, which could exceed €1 billion, for the physical and psychological harm that Ramos gave Salah and the Egyptian people."
      --
      Some Egyptians are starting to get a bit annoying. This, and that stupid Ramos petition possibly signed by hundreds of thousands of Egyptians, to go along with a lot of them making weekly FPL teams with Salah (TC) to win the GW prizes. I always root for the underdogs at a World Cup but if they're going to create drama and start feeling sorry for themselves at every opportunity then they might as well not make it out of the groups.

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        I hope he's fit but they lose all 3 games. They need to know that they have zero chance with or without him.

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          A petition to get Epic Fail prosecuted will go live any minute now.

          1. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Wouldn't surprise me. I probably face the death penalty.

          2. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Where do I sign this petition?

      2. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        If i was Ramos i would be informing my lawyer to counter sue for defamation.

        I can understand why the Egyptian people are upset at the prospect of losing their star player for the tournament but some of the things that have been said and done in recent days are just daft.

        I bet if someone asked Salah how he felt about it he would say he has no hard feelings against Ramos and it was just one of those things.

        1. FFFrog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          It’s something that will never be proven unless Ramos admitted to it, which he’s clearly not going to do. As you say Salah probably saw it as an unfortunate accident and so if Ramos sued back he’d almost certainly win a lot a money.

      3. Norman Conquest
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        snowflakes

      4. MTPockets
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Those 'change' sites baffle me. How do they make enough money from petitions to employ so many? https://www.change.org/about/team
          Must be selling user data.

        • noquarternt
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          In which jurisdiction is he lodging it?

        • Yozzer
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Never heard anything so stupid in all my life. World is going mad.

      5. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Anyone know a betting site where you can sign up, deposit and get free bets instantly but not have to place it on one particular bet?

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Your welcome.

      6. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Is anyone in the UK showing the international friendlies tonight?

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Bookmark it, very handy for figuring out whats been shown on TV.

          http://www.live-footballontv.com/

          1. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            I remember the first time I found that website.

            I Googled "live football on TV", because I wanted to know what live football was on TV.

            A very underrated method.

            1. Ógie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              I think i got the link first form either you or TM 😉

              1. Epic Fail
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Ha probably. I should be getting commission the amount of times I've given their link out.

                It is a brilliant site though.

                1. Ógie
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  The helping hand you give people on here is seriously underrated EF.

                  Your tough love approach is just the kick up the ass some of us need. 😉

            2. Fantasy Gold
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              😆

      7. StoichkovFPL
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        @ mods
        How long does it take to submit an article to as Community Article?

        1. Niemi
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I'm not involved in the process, but as a regular community article writer (about Fantasy Eliteserien) I can tell you that it usually takes 12-48 hours.

          Geoff can probably give you a better answer when he's online.

        2. Geoff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I'll respond to your email now 🙂

        3. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Hi Stoichkov. We’ll get that out tomorrow for you.

          1. StoichkovFPL
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            cheers guys!!
            thanks for all replies! 🙂
            *shy*

        4. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          3 replies from staff in a row. You've got them under the thumb. 😉

          1. StoichkovFPL
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Feel like a star!

          2. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            😀

      8. Norman Conquest
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Liverpool have made a €55m bid for Monaco midfielder Fabinho

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Its a real bummer when you post something first and the guy who posts after you gets all the replies

          1. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            The period made all the difference.

          2. Norman Conquest
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            not really i will still sleep easy

      9. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Mohamed Bouhafsi has confirmed that Liverpool have bid €50m for Monaco defensive-midfielder Fabinho.

        Bouhafsi is a pretty reliable French journalist.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Never getting him for that much.

          They’ll need to up that offer considerably

          1. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Think its not that far out. He didnt have a blinder year this season compared to the last one. 50 is a bit low this days (madness, eh?) but I reckon 60-70 should do the trick.

        2. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Keita Fabinho Fekir would be some midfield transformation

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Title contenders if they sort their defence out.

          2. Fantastisk
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Over Henderson?

          3. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            This + Alisson and another CB and they could contest City to the end. Thats 200+ mil (Fekir, Alisson, Fabinho, CB) though, no chance they have that ammount of money.

      10. Fantasy Gold
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Membership expires on 1st June right?

        Early bird price renewal still going to be £12.50?

        1. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Can I pay more and be a Mod?

          1. Fantastisk
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            £25

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Oh cool.

          2. Fantasy Gold
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Pretty easy to become a Mod these days I think, just fire across an email to Mark 😉

            1. Geoff
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              It's me actually 😉

          3. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Only if you changed your name to Green Dagger 🗡

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              What about Back Stabber 😉

            2. Fantasy Gold
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Boom. Nice idea.

              And find a green dagger to put as your grav as well.

            3. Red Dagger ✪
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              What is Green Dagger?

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                He's related to Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Green Goblin, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Kermit and The Hulk.

                1. Red Dagger ✪
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  Ok I'm in. I think.....

      11. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Breaking news

        Sergio Ramos has agreed to fight Conor McGregor to see who is the true master of MMA dark arts

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Now that is a fight that I’d happily pay for

        2. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I'd put money on Ramos.

        3. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          TapOut would have no chance.

        4. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Did a Liverpool supporter tweet that?

      12. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        BREAKING: Liverpool are closing in on a £43.7million deal for Monaco midfielder Fabinho, according to Sky sources

        Liverpool almost bought fabinho

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          You need to be quicker than that Jacky Boy

          Look up

        2. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Dial up?

      13. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Another week passes and another one closer to the WC...so...once again...

        Has anybody yet discovered a single case of World Cup fever.

        Failing that does anybody know anybody who has even shown the slightest bit of interest....anything will do...a flag, a song, a cap with beer can holders attached....general chit chat even...

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I am the least excited I’ve ever been ahead of a major tournament.

          I’m sure I’ll perk up when it all starts though

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Well it'd be hard pushed to get worse.

            I agree....I've watched World cups since 1970 and never seen one with so little interest from the public....just isn't happening is it...not yet anyway.

            It'd be interesting to know if the same is happening around the globe and whether that is connected to the choice of hosts. If so that's a very big lesson for FIFA.

            1. RoysCallerAnne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              I doubt that the same malaise is happening in other countries.

              England fans simply don't know how lucky they are to qualify for practically every major tournament. It's been that way for decades and the red tops are mainly to blame.

              1. Dr Dream
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Not sure about that. I remember well WC'74 and WC'78 when we didn't qualify and it seemed to be all over the place for weeks beforehand...same for the USA World Cup.

            2. diesel001
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Definitely had the chit chat, but not much else re WC fever. I think in England it is linked to the prospects of the England team.

              In the 80s and early 90s we had Shilton, Linekar, Gascoigne, Platt, Beardsley etc
              Then we had Euro 96 and Seaman, Shearer, Ince, Beckham, Scholes, Owen etc
              Then we had Gerrard, Ferdinand, Lampard, Rooney etc.
              Now all we have is Harry Kane and he hasn't exactly been great at international level. Plus we have no decent football song.

              We try the same thing and expect different results. Why can't we accept that there are at least 8 teams better than us and set up differently? Show some tactical nous, work on set pieces, bring man-marking back into the game etc. Players need to show some humility too.

        2. Norman Conquest
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          apart from the one that got cancelled in 1994 this must be next worst

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            What got cancelled?

        3. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          No

          There is far too much football on Television and people are getting bored. It also doesn't help that international football is falling down the priority list.

          Don't think it being held in Russia helps either people just want it to be over even before it has started

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah...maybe both of the above.

            There was a time not so long ago when the World Cup was our four yearly foot fest...way above and beyond the norm...

            That's actually a good point, chuck in Russia being the hosts and you may well be right.

        4. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          We need to discover some new form of life to play football against. That will revive our interest in international football. Maybe FIFA should invest in some research to create some other species to keep the interest alive

      14. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        BREAKING: Fast food chains in Manchester are handed a massive boost as Luke Shaw is looking to stay at United, fight for his place and see out his contract.

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          whys that then

          1. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Have you ever seen Luke Shaw?

            1. Norman Conquest
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              yea on a weekly basis i can guarantee he will be in better shape than you pal

              1. Syd.
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                But he doesn't have my silver locks and dashing good looks also when he is my age he will be 33 stone 😉

                1. Norman Conquest
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  ha ha when he is your age he will look like that little fellow out of rab c nesbitt

                  1. Syd.
                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 11 months ago

                    And he certainly won't have the style of Jamesie

      15. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        What players position modification is needed for this year?
        Arnie to forward?
        Milner to mid?
        Young to def?
        Any other changes?

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Alonso > midfielder and Young > defender

          Karius > Ronald McDonald

        2. Speédy
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Arnie should stay as a mid,unless they don't sign a striker.

      16. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        France 2 Ireland 0 HT
        Giroud and Fekir.

        1. FFFrog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          They’re playing very well without Pogba, Griezmann or Kante - a scary prospect when they play a full strength side

        2. Roosta
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Anfielsexpress saying that Fekir has signed for Liverpool. I am all over that if it happens.

          https://understat.com/player/3667

          1. Legomané
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            9.0?

            1. WesMantooth
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Seems about right considering Salah...

      17. TaiwanHC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Thoughts on this drafted WC team? Prices within brackets. Anyone overpriced?

        Griezmann (11.0) - Cavani (9.5) - Lewandowski (7.5)
        Neymar (12.5) - De Bruyne (10.0) - Paulinho (6.0)
        Alba (6.0) - Meunier (6.0) - Hector (5.5) - Trippier (5.0)
        Lloris (5.5)

        Bench: 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0

        Two free transfers between each fixture.

        Thanks guys!

      18. Ghost Gooner
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        I've been toying with the idea of moving away from 442, 343 and 352 for next season and I think I've settled on a viable gameplan.

        I will channel a sizeable chunk of my budget to defence as that is where the value is. I plan to go 541 and have playing fodder on the bench (hopefully a couple of 4.5m 10 to 15 minute cameo strikers become viable options for us)

        I will alternate between Ryan and Dubravka in goals and a 4.0 keeper all season (I will start with whoever has the better opening fixtures and transfer in the other when their fixtures turn good).

        Salah will be my season capt and Auba my alternate capt when he is at home to a favourable opponent.

        Sterling can become Haz if it looks like the City mid will be a minefield which will make Robbo become Mendy as I still want City presence. With a new manager I think Haz and Chelsea will be better all round.

        I've avoided Spurs due to the stadium move and the whole defence being interchangeable. Kane will only be considered post August but preferably in the 2nd half of the season

        4.5 Dubravka/(Ryan) 4.0 Elliott/Krul =8.5

        6.5 Robertson/(Mendy) 6.0 Smalling 5.5 PVA 5.0 Douglas 4.5 Morrison =27.5

        13.5 Salah 10.5 Sterling/(Haz) 8.0 Arnie
        7.0 Gross 4.5 Cook =43.5

        11.5 Auba 4.5 Quarner 4.5 ??? =20.5

        There are certain players I will initially stay away from though due to their ability to troll. Only when they hit form will I consider them.

        KO stage WC players to a minimum
        Richarlison - could be figured out by pl teams now
        Kane and Spurs defence - (Kane a slow starter and Spurs have 7 defenders)
        Sanchez and Pogba - (Mou too pragmatic)
        Arsenal defence - (Emery's 5-4 comment)
        Tadic and Southampton fwds - ( 😡 trolls)
        Man City attack (all at WC and rotation risks)
        Burnley defence - (Europa and Heaton v Pope 😕 )
        Chelsea defenders - Too many defenders (8! 😯 Rotation risks)
        Dunk for his OGs 😆
        Sessegnon and promoted attackers (I'd rather go proven til I see that the newbies can perform/deliver)

        1. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I like it.

        2. We Will Klopp you
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Way too early to say but nice idea

      19. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Fabinho officially joined liverpool

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Real surprise that one.
          Will he be a mid or def though?!

          1. Emiliano Sala
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Mid for sure

            1. Lovren an elevator
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              I think so too. No fpl value then? We need to see where he'll play tho. TAA nailed for next season you think?

              1. FFFrog
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Everyone seems to forget about Clyne, a very good right-back who deserves to be starting

                1. Ghost Gooner
                  • 10 Years
                  5 years, 11 months ago

                  TAA is better but Clyne is good enough to start 25% of games

              2. Emiliano Sala
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Not a safe option with both clyne and gomez there
                Vvd and robertson are better for fpl

      20. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Fabinho signs for Liverpool.

        https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1001191603460100096

        1. ONSIDE 9
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Dial up 😉

      21. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        LFC sign Fabinho from Monaco.

        https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1001191603460100096

        Our year, next year!

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Every year.

      22. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Liverpool have confirmed the signing of Monaco midfielder Fabinho

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Can he play in goal?

          1. Rainer
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Well he's 6"2 so he's worth a shot!

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Do you think he will fumble the shot?

              1. Rainer
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Which one?!?!

          2. Red Dagger ✪
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Haha I had this in my reply also. You beat me to it.

      23. FFFrog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        A second string Tunisia side have just equalised with a strong Portugal side

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          What has that to do with Liverpool signing Fabinho?

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          No Ronaldo = not strong.

          1. Rainer
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Cedric not playing either...

            1. FFFrog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Pereira arguably deserves to be starting - this Tunisia side is very much second string

            2. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              He subbed on.

              1. Rainer
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                To save the day!

      24. pakornk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Fabinho coming to Liverpool surely marks the end of Henderson, finally.

        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Can replacement mainly.

          1. Red Dagger ✪
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            With Kieta in there too, no place for Hendo.

            1. Rainer
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Don't think it'll be that straightforward. Hendo has been brilliant the last few months. Despite the agenda of being a backward & sideways passer, he's a key part of Klopp's tactic.

              Lack of depth nearly cost top 4 and put a strain on CL games, especially with midfield. He's another body willing to play for the club. Becoming more and more a squad game.

              1. Red Dagger ✪
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                I'm fine with him being a bench player but his is not captain material for me.

        2. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          I would think so. VVD to be captain then.

        3. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Nah. Liverpool's squad isn't big enough. Still plenty of minutes for him.

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Hendo is going nowhere

      25. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Fabinho is an awesome signing for Liverpool. Really jealous of that one!

        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Especially at that rumored price!

      26. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Fekir subbed to do Liverpool photo shoot.
        Griezmann on.

      27. TaiwanHC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Griezmann - Lewandowski - Cavani
        Neymar - Hazard - Paulinho
        Marcelo - Hector - Godin - Trippier
        Lloris

        GTG?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Trippier 1st choice?

      28. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        Chelsea's last 25 signings :
        Pato, Pedro, Amelia, Baba Rahman, Begovic, Kenedy, Falcao, Hector, Miazga, Nathan, Djiloboji, Pantic, Cuadrado, Kante, Luiz, Alonso, Batshuayi, Eduardo, Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Rudiger, Morata, Caballero, Barkley

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          2 out of 25, not bad.

        2. FFFrog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Pedro, Kante, Luiz, Alonso and Rudiger have all done good things for us, but I agree our transfer record is shocking

          1. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            Shocking is mildly put.

            1. FFFrog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Unfortunately my comment would be deleted if I used the words I wanted to. Something big needs to happen at the club otherwise we’re going to freefall behind the leading pack

        3. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          They did win the PL the previous season

          1. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            On par with the Leicester miracle. 😀

        4. diesel001
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          Most of those don't even get a chance or are purchased so they can be sold on in future. Is Baba Rahman that bad? Is Drinkwater (title winning midfielder) that bad? Kenedy doing alright at Newcastle.

          It isn't the transfer policy, it is the club culture - basically a Primark policy to players - use them once then throw them away.

      29. Tazah
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 11 months ago

        i agree the lawsuit and the petition is going way too far, but let me explain to you how important salah is to egyptians.....

        unlike with england, egypt have only qualified for the world cup twice... it has been an obsession for them, so for one player like salah to manage to do 60% of the job in taking them there (he was involved in every goal scored in qualifying) is unbelievable. This is a country where even mothers sit down to watch the matches and know all the players names, they can even be heard from the streets. Egypt LOVES football and loves Salah, so for Salah to get injured before the tournament they have been dreaming of for 28 years you can understand how it might be turning into a nightmare...

        my personal view of it is football can be very cruel sometimes and this is one of them, but you cant deny ramos is an agressive player, he might not have wanted to injure him, but he certainly used extra force than he would have, rightly or wrongly, he did what was best for his team. Im praying Salah can get back fit soon.

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 11 months ago

          All true, but the only difference between Salah being fit or not is that with him they might score a goal before getting knocked out in the first round.

          1. Tazah
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            wasnt the point of what i said.... for egyptians, being at the world cup was the prize...they just want to see the guy that got them there be rewarded for his work

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Apparently he is in Spain for treatment which is kind of ironic given it was a Spaniard who did him in. Maybe they specialise in victims of Ramos

          2. Arctic monkeys
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 11 months ago

            They actually got a big chance to qualify to the second round with him in the side. They are favourites on paper to win against Saudi arabia and then Salah can easily have a great performance against russia or Urugway the way he was carrying away Liverpool this season.

            1. FFFrog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 11 months ago

              Disagree - Saudi are better than they seem and Russia and Uruguay are significantly better sides than Egypt, Salah is a good player and Egypt’s best hope but he won’t be good enough to get them out of the groups.

              1. Arctic monkeys
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                We played against them in the last Afcon and we were big favourites to win - by us I mean Morocco - and they managed to knock us out and Salah was nowhere near what he is doing right now. I think they can easily win against the Saudis. Russia and Urugway are significantly better with Salah playing, imagine if he misses out.

              2. A Betting Man
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 11 months ago

                Don't agree with Russia being significantly better at all. Of course they do have home advantage.

                Saudi should be completely outclassed.