Pre-Season

The Best Budget Defenders to Buy in FPL 2018/19

Last Thursday saw the release of the 2018/19 Fantasy Premier League game and Fantasy managers will no doubt be scanning the price list for potential bargains in the offing.

We began our look at this season’s player prices with an assessment of the value for money offered by various goalkeepers and we continue our analysis with an appraisal of the budget defenders on offer.

The £4.0m Enablers

The fifth defensive spot in FPL squads is, for a fair proportion of Fantasy managers, either written off as unplayable bench fodder or as a stopper to call upon in absolute times of crises. Either way, the position is a routine method of liberating some of the £100m budget to spend elsewhere on premium assets.

Whatever the approach, there are one or two viable £4.0m-rated defensive assets that have presented themselves in the price list for 2018/19.

As we have seen in recent seasons, it is rare for any defender in this bracket to be guaranteed playing time. However, full-back Lee Peltier featured regularly for Cardiff City in the Championship last season and, barring any further transfer activity in the summer, would seem set to play a prominent role in the Bluebirds’ Premier League campaign this time around.

Sean Morrison is the more attractive route into the Cardiff backline – who had the joint-best defensive record in the Championship last season – but his obvious goal threat has seen him priced at £5.0m, which will be too steep for many Fantasy managers to swallow.

Ryan Bennett was a semi-regular feature of the Wolverhampton Wanderers’ back three last season, although it wouldn’t be a huge surprise if the free-spending West Midlands club bolstered their backline further between now and the start of the season. Bennett’s place would seem the most likely at risk.

Team-mates Roderick Miranda and Danny Batth would seem even more unlikely to feature in the Wolves first team next year.

Chancel Mbemba was a staple of many FPL benches last season and the Newcastle United defender is once again priced up at £4.0m. His time in the north-east looks likely to come to an end this summer though, with a move to Porto mooted.

Martin Kelly, Jan Bednarek and Craig Cathcart are among the other familiar names in the bargain bin of defensive assets.

The £4.5m Candidates

That extra £0.5m will, more often than not, get Fantasy managers the guarantee of starts from their budget defenders and has the potential to return considerable points hauls for little extra investment.

The likes of Shane Duffy, Jamaal Lascelles, Ahmed Hegazi, Kyle Naughton, James Tarkowski, Mathias ‘Zanka’ Jorgensen, Stephen Ward and Christopher Schindler all began last season priced at £4.5m and went on to break the 100-point barrier in FPL.

Duffy and his centre-half partner, Lewis Dunk, are again priced up at £4.5m this season. The Brighton and Hove Albion pair had some of the best Clearance, Block and Interception (CBI) statistics in 2017/18 and were desperately unfortunate not to convert their combined 55 chances into more than the one goal.

Team-mates Bruno, Gaetan Bong and new signing Leon Balogun are also in this price bracket. Albion kept ten clean sheets last season; only the sides who finished in the top seven registered more.

READ MORE: Our guide to the best Brighton assets for 2018/19

Schindler and Zanka, the Huddersfield Town centre-back pairing, are also unchanged at £4.5m. Florent Hadergjonaj, who had one of the best minutes-per-chance-created averages among defenders last season, and Terence Kongolo are among the other Terriers at this price.

Possibly the stand-out candidate at £4.5m is Charlie Daniels, who started last season £0.5m higher. Bournemouth’s leaky defence kept only a joint-worst six clean sheets last season and is no doubt the key reason why Daniels, along with club colleagues Simon Francis, Steve Cook and Adam Smith, is available at a reduced price. Only five defenders had more touches in the final third than Daniels last season, however.

Just one of Bournemouth’s opening ten fixtures is against the “Big Six”, which adds to Daniels’ appeal.

READ MORE: Our guide to the best Bournemouth assets for 2018/19

Burnley’s impressive defensive record last season (39 goals conceded and 12 clean sheets) means that only back-ups Kevin Long, Phil Bardsley and Charlie Taylor are available for under £5.0m this time around.

Jamaal Lascelles’ excellent performances for Newcastle United last season have been “rewarded” with a price hike to £5.0m, although the Magpies’ DeAndre Yedlin, Paul Dummett and Florian Lejeune are available for £0.5m cheaper.

Rafael Benitez’s side had the best defensive record outside of the top seven last year.

Though both Newcastle and Brighton have tricky fixtures to start with, their schedules improve from October. A Dunk or Duffy double-up with, say, Lejeune would give a very favourable run of fixtures (WHU, BHA, WLV, WAT, BOU, LEI, WHU, CRY, WLV) from Gameweek 8 onwards.

Like Charlie Daniels, Cedric Soares will surely tempt Fantasy managers after dropping down from the £5.0m mark. The Portuguese full-back, who ended last season playing in an advanced role in Mark Hughes’ 3-4-2-1, recorded three assists in his last seven fixtures for Southampton.

Maya Yoshida, Jack Stephens and Wesley Hoedt are available for the same price.

The Saints’ first five fixtures (BUR, eve, LEI, cry, BHA) look particularly appealing and the south coast side’s matches interchange perfectly with West Ham United this season, offering an unbroken run of home matches if assets from both clubs are used in rotation.

Speaking of the Hammers, Winston Reid, Angelo Ogbonna and new signing Issa Diop are the stand-out candidates available at £4.5m. Arthur Masuaku, who attempted more than twice as many take-ons as any other Premier League defender last season en route to collecting three assists, has been reclassified as a midfielder.

New signing Lukasz Fabianski, perhaps surprisingly available at just £4.5m, will though likely be the more popular route into that West Ham backline. It should be noted, however, that the Hammers had the joint-worst defensive record in the Premier League last season.

Rob Holding and Calum Chambers featured prominently in the Arsenal team towards the end of last season as Arsene Wenger prioritised the Europa League, though it remains doubtful whether the pair will be in Unai Emery’s plans for next season.

As one would expect, there is a raft of options available at this price for the newly promoted clubs.

Joe Bennett, Sol Bamba and Bruno Ecuele Manga split Cardiff’s £4.0m and £5.0m-rated defensive assets, while Tim Ream is a near-certain starter for Fulham next season.

Willy Boly, Conor Coady and Matt Doherty are £4.5m-rated options for Wolves, as is Romain Saiss. Although the Moroccan international featured at centre-back for his country at this summer’s World Cup, Saiss was largely deployed alongside Ruben Neves in the centre of midfield last season and has the potential to be an “out of position” asset. Before any Fantasy manager gets too excited, however, Saiss’ duties in the centre of the park are generally restricted to defensive ones.

READ MORE: Our analysis of Wolverhampton Wanderers’ promotion-winning season

READ MORE: Our analysis of Cardiff City’s promotion-winning season

READ MORE: Our analysis of Fulham’s promotion-winning season

Jose Holebas, who attempted more crosses than any other Premier League defender last season, appeals after dropping back to the £4.5m mark. Ten other Watford defenders, including the attack-minded Kiko Femenia, are also available at this price.

Wes Morgan, Christian Fuchs and Danny Simpson, staples of Leicester City’s title-winning side, will be expected to play more peripheral roles next season following the arrivals of Jonny Evans and Ricardo Pereira and the emergence of Ben Chilwell.

Bench duty surely awaits Ragnar Klavan at Liverpool too, although there are potential bargains (albeit ageing, unconvincing ones) to be had in the blue half of Merseyside: Phil Jagielka and Ashley Williams are among five Evertonians available at £4.5m.

James Tomkins, who scored on three occasions last season and was Crystal Palace’s highest-scoring defender in FPL, is £1.0m cheaper than Patrick van Aanholt, meanwhile.

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638 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ivan4eg
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson / Stekelnburg
    Alonso / Van Dijk / Douglas / Tomkins / Daniels
    Salah / Eriksen / Jota / Deulofeu / Cairney
    Aguero / Zaha / Wood

    4-3-3 with rotations:
    1) Daniels with Tomkins
    2) Jota with Deulofeu and Cairney

    May consider Lamela instead of Jota and change Eriksen to another premium midfielder.

    Any thoughts?

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting choices. If you;re planning to WC early, then Lamela in. No way is he nailed once WC players come in. Im personally considering him as an option.

  2. Evasivo
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Long shot...

    Any one here from Norfolk?

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I'm not, but I really want to know why you asked?

  3. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Surprised Malone from Huddersfield hasn't been mentioned, they were the top scoring 4.0 defenders last season.

    Did Bednerak feature towards the latter end? I can't remember.

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He did, but I wouldnt say he's gonna start. Saints are set to sign a giant of a centre back. They will likely field. . . .
      McCarthy
      Yoshida-Vestergaard-Hoedt

      My opinion however.

  4. OldBenKenobi
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    So I know that Neves "in theory" isnt a good FPL asset and its probably "casuals" picking him currently.
    I should probably get someone like Cairney (also 5.0) instead but I just know that he will probably score a free kick or get a pen in GW1 and the "casuals" will win again 😆
    Not to mention his price will likely sky rocket if this is the case.
    Am I over thinking this or is this a fairly likely scenario?

    1. Inter Me Gran
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Exactly my thoughts, I have him in my team but as you can see in the post below, what do I know.

      I do have a mate who is a staunch wolves fan who also rates him however

    2. Zilla
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Haha had the same thought, I went with Cairney but it's a coin flip.

    3. Cowboy John
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Get Helder Costa. Plays as a winger/wide-striker. Same price.

      1. OldBenKenobi
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Would maybe rather spend 0.5 more and get Ivan Cavaleiro (9 goals 12 assists)

        1. Cowboy John
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Wolves fan here.

          Costa is better and should see more playing time. He had surgery last off-season and it took he along time to get back to his best.

          He's as good a player as Jota.

          1. OldBenKenobi
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            didnt know that.
            thanks for the info.
            Jota was one of the first names in my team 😉

            1. Cowboy John
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah, Jota would've been my choice if not for the 6.5 price tag.

              1. OldBenKenobi
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                you think thats too dear?

  5. Inter Me Gran
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Right, you lot know more than I do....who is scoring the most points?

    A) kane and vardy

    B) vardy, Firmino and Tosun

    Cheers

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Keep cash aside for Kane as he may not start GW1 that or have a player you can "sacrifice" easily to get funds for Kane.

  6. Fuchs Mane Kante
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    The changes that could have been made to improve the game have been overlooked again.

    Still 6 garillion multi teamers.

    In game trannys for the traffic.

    Overall rank has now changed to earliest team ID.

    No wonder they released early with no warning.

    Might not even entertain FPL this season much better platforms about.

    1. flyingheelhook
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      What platforms?

      1. Fuchs Mane Kante
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I team for me.

        Better competition, in game trannys and no nonsense player prices.

  7. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    De gea
    Coleman alonso kiko
    Salah mane sane jota sesegnon
    Firmino jiminez

    Speroni cedric daniels kamara

    Go ahead shred it to pieces

    1. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You guys are gonna force me to bottom this work of art

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Daniels > 4.0 for the same points at a lower cost.

        1. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          😆

    2. Athletic Bilbo
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Too much faith in promoted players for me.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Have you read the gread book "Spreading the faith" by Ryana Sessegnun?

        1. Athletic Bilbo
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Ha ha, no I haven’t, but I’m quite an authority on the complete works of Anthony Knockeart.

      2. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        This is possibly the only weakness in this masterpiece.
        I'll take that

  8. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Chelsea winger Kenedy has agreed to join Newcastle on a season-long loan.

    - various sources

    1. Fuchs Mane Kante
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      5.5 or less would consider.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Terrible fixtures, but could rotate with someone who has a bad GW2 fixture.

  9. Wakanda
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    2 Qns :
    When will fpl price rise and fall take place ?

    MAC fantasy:
    Choose 2 options

    A) 11 man , 1 usable sub
    B) 11 man , 2 usable sub

    1) double eng def
    2) double France def
    3) double Belgium def

    Has Belgium keeper

  10. Murder On Zidanesfloor
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Willian a good shout? Will he be rested?

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He's linked to a move away from Chelsea. United and Barcelona after him.

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      may be sold to Barca or ManU ..

      watchlist..

  11. Papasthathopolous
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Fantasy WC :
    On wildcard so sugesstions highly welcomed :

    Pickford - (4.4)
    Maguire -Trippier - Pavard -Hernandez -Strinic
    Modric - Rakitic - KDB - Lingard
    Kane -Griezman - Lukaku ...

    any obvious mistakes ??
    too much england and very less Belgium ??

    1. Papasthathopolous
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      ohh and a 4.6 croatian fodder as the 5th mid .

    2. Bardo9
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I’m leaning towards going heavy on Belgium France, then filling in those who did poorly with Croatia England. Just because you have 7 players from the second day doesn’t mean you’re going to play all of them does it?

      For me I have Rakitic and Modric. I might leave Rakitic on the bench tbh depending on my score after the Belgium France game.

      So seems better to gamble on the first game and hope it pays off, then have backups to fill in the voids from the second game.

  12. Bardo9
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    McDs.

    A) Kane, Fellaini, Hernandez
    B) Lukaku, Fellaini, Vertonghen

    Team is:

    Subasic, Fodder
    Young, Trippier, Lovren, Pavard
    Rakitic, Modric, Lingard, Carassco
    Griezmann, Hazard

  13. noahzark22
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Pickford
    Tomkins ,Alonso, Alexander-Arnold, Davies
    Mkhitaryan, Salah, Sigurdsson
    Tosun, Zaha, Agüero

    Bench: Boruc, Lamela, Clyne, Masuaku

    No finished obvs, but this might be where I'm headed. I think I ultimately want Fab as my keeper, but Everton opening fixtures are way better than WHam.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think if you're going for the TAA/Clyne, then you might want 3 other nailed defenders. Davies doesn't cut it in this respect. :/

      1. noahzark22
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        At the moment, I only want davies for a week or two then bring in an ARS or ManC defender

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Seems like a good plan. Lamela is the obvious weak spot though. Another one to sell after one or two weeks.

          1. noahzark22
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Right. At this point, banking on multiple Spurs assets missing the first week or two. Good fixtures and gives a moment to see if anyone emerges as value or must-have early on.

  14. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Premier League club summer friendly fixtures 2018

    https://www.premierleague.com/summer-friendly-fixtures-2018

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Useful post as usually.

      Chelsea flying all the way to Australia for one game?

  15. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A slightly different RMT : (5 good defenders)

    Ederson, Begovic

    Roberstson, Mendy, Coleman, PVA, daniels
    Sanchez, Mane, Mkhi, sessengon, masuako
    Aguero, tuson, wood

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      That rotation will just end in tears.

      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        i am already crying

  16. Patch
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Basically everyone will have pretty much the same set of players and rest fodder...so does this support the position to blow as many chips early on as getting a better than earlier means you will then stagnate at a higher level...

    Pickford.

    Maguire - Trippier - Pavard - Hernandez.

    Lingard - Alli - Pogba - KDB - Faillani.

    Kane - Mbappe - Hazard.

  17. Ronaldo7
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    No love for schelotto (4.0) as the cheapy defender this year? Bruno is now 37 so surely cant be first choice for much longer. Am i right in thinking Schelotto had actually edged Bruno out at the end of last year and it wasn't an injury which forced Bruno to be dropped?

      1. Ronaldo7
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, i thought i must have been missing something

  18. trinzoo
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    WC McD game:

    A) Mbappe / Pogba
    B) Kane / Carrasco

    1. trinzoo
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Anyone? Have 6.7 for a mid with Kane.

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I'd probably go A, not sure Carrasco will definitely play, and 6.7m doesn't get you anything.

      1. trinzoo
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, my reasoning too. Carrasco will defo not play in case Belgium lose too.

  19. Maddi Son
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    I'm sure this has been mentioned at some point already, but does Mendy being fit = Aguero & Jesus play together?

    Pep - "When you have Mendy, he can play wide and the winger can go inside. Fabian Delph cannot do that. Without Mendy, Leroy Sane has to go wide, which is why they don't play together. Sergio after the crash, he was fit. He is fit. For me he is so tough. So is Gabriel."

    Would be nice not to have the rotation risk headache... especially with their fixtures.

    1. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Or Sterling LW Jesus CF

  20. Zilla
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Any idea if Ryan Bennett (4.0) is nailed? He started many games in the 2nd half of championship.

    1. Cowboy John
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      We'll almost certainly sign someone to replace him.

      But as it stands, he's a starter.

      1. Zilla
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers mate!

  21. dimo_fpl
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Can’t stop tinkering;
    De Gea

    Van Aanholt | Robertson | Coleman

    Eriksen | Mané | Deulofeu | Mkhi | Sessegnon

    Kane | Aubameyang

    Speroni | Cedric | Kamara | Bednarek

    1. dimo_fpl
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      * Aguero not Kane

      1. Z3US
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        oh ok

        1. dimo_fpl
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Anything need change?

    2. Z3US
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No City?!? Brave.

  22. Painter
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    I’ve seen heaps of teams on here but very little have sessegnon..
    Why?
    Should have a big year

    1. dimo_fpl
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Young lad, new to prem
      (But I have him in my team, look above)

    2. DJDave1979
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Overpriced by 1m. I think plenty would have taken a punt at 5.5

    3. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      ROOP

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I heard he plays more like Salah than a FB. Was I lied to?

        1. Eden Wizard
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Played most of the season as Left Wing but just got pushed back to LB in recent friendly.

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Friendly

          2. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Matt targett returned to southhampton.

            Based on his performances last season a new lb must be a priority

      2. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        What do you mean?

        1. Eden Wizard
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Reverse Out Of Position

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah I understand the term, but are you now saying he's a defender? Remember telling me I knew nothing about football the other day because I said that?

            1. Eden Wizard
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Played LB in recent friendly since Targett left

        2. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          (Reverse) Out of Position

      3. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        He played left wing second half of last season. I am expecting fulham to sign a left back. If not he is out of my team. If he plays lw i am happy to spend 6.5 on him

    4. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      First name on my team sheet.He played to well last season in midfield for Fulham to move him back to defence.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        First name? You mean after Deulofeu, right?

        1. *sigh*
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Sorry bud if I was going Watford mid Id get Pereyra

  23. DJDave1979
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    I have to laugh at the idea that we should consider Ryan Bennett. Someone who couldn't nail down a place in the Championship.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You won't be laughing when you ulitimate buy him anyway and he scores you negative points

      1. DJDave1979
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        It was bad enough having him as a starter at Norwich. The idea of picking him as a Wolves reserve is truly hilarious.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          You'll still pick him though, won't you! 😀 Can't help yourself!

  24. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    All these RMT's on here already....

    Look at your team before posting it on here and ask yourself: "Would Ville Rönke pick these players?''

    Then start again.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      80% don't know who that is

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        According to a poll done on 5% of the people who read Grazia magazine

  25. When do you plan to Wildcard in FPL?
    HamezMace
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Are people planning their teams based on anticipating using an early wildcard?

    I'm thinking with the uncertainty of players coming back from the world cup our teams for the first 2-3 weeks of the season will look very different once everyone is back to full strength.

    I was hoping the early transfer window would help me avoid the early wildcard, but I doubt it now

    1. DJDave1979
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think an early WC is likely. The IB is the time I expect the World Cup stars to really bed back into their club sides. As I'm foregoing anyone from the QF onwards, I think a few targets will emerge by the end of August.

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      There's not that much added uncertainty. Plenty of great options who aren't at the world cup. I don't want Sprurs players anyway. I never plan for an early WC, and the WC isn't enough reason to change that for me. The fact that the transfer window is closed early, as you say, will likely have a much bigger impact than the world cup imo, but in the opposite direction.

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        It's not just that we'll want the players who are currently at the world cup, more that them returning to their clubs will change the line ups.

        For example players like Luke Shaw, Lamela, Morata, Martial should all start the season for their club sides and could offer great value until the usual first choice players return.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I'm not planning to go anywhere near Shaw, Lamela, Morata or Martial. (Perhaps Martial as a Ramsey placeholder). How long do you really expect players to be out?

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            2 - 3 weeks potentially?

        2. DJDave1979
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I'm definitely not picking rubbish like Shaw which means I'd HAVE to wildcard i get a team out in wk4. Players that luck into a starting berth because of a ligament tear are one thing, players holding a berth for a week or two quite another

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Shaw is a pretty cheap way into a much coveted Man United defence, and with Young playing every game at the WC, and 33 years old, should be nailed for the first few games at least.

            But this is exactly my point. It's quite a typically thing for people to WC in the first few weeks to jump on form players, price rises, and cheap starters, but it's never usually something we plan to do, this year I might break the mould.

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Why 3 games at least? Where's this number coming from? 🙂

              I think typically there are people who do plan for an early WC. And those are the people who do the best in the early GWs, naturally. If you think you probably will WC anyway, it's probably better to commit before GW1.

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                I didn't say at least, I said 2-3 potentially.

                And it's not coming from anywhere specific, but I expect the players involved up to next weekend to be given at least three weeks rest, and then probably a couple of weeks of training before they come back into contention.

                I don't think anyone here expects the players who play next weekend will be playing in GW1.

                1. HamezMace
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  Apologies, regarding Shaw/Young, that's due to the fact he's played every game in the world cup, and his age.

                2. Deulofail
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  Sorry, I took "few" to mean 3. If you think it would be 2-3 weeks rest, then someone could disagree by expecting a player to start in GW 1 or GW2, so I'm not sure what the last point has to do with it (only GW1).

                  It just seems like your thinking is a little hazy. Like it will all just come together. But 3GWs is a long time (GW4 is in September). And it sounds like you think players will be back before then (around GW3). If you're committing to an early WC, then fair enough, but you might find it hard to figure out the best time (GW2, 3 or 4?), so could find yourself with players on the bench if you WC a week early or a week late (or even at the right time). But I'm not discounting an early WC as a tactic 🙂

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    Btw I think that "a couple of weeks" of training suggests they'll be back for GW2! It will be difficult to know if a player will start. Managers re unlikely to give that information away 🙂

                  2. HamezMace
                    • 9 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    No need to apologise, my wording was wrong.

                    I agree, I haven't really thought it through at this stage, hence why I posted the question to see if anyone else was considering it.

                    Seems like the safest thing to do is just pick players that weren't at the world cup, or who are not at threat from players returning from the world cup.

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 8 Years
                      5 years, 9 months ago

                      Yup. World-cup wise, perhaps you could afford one or two players at risk of being displaced when players return, but only if the rest of your team is nailed as nailed can be, which is unlikely. Personally, with at least a couple of non-certs in my team, I don't think I can afford the transfers to get rid of displaced players unless I swap one risk for another.

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        I mean switch one risk in my current team for another WC-related risk, like Martial, for instance.

                      2. HamezMace
                        • 9 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        Minefield.
                        Hoping pre-season helps.
                        Thanks for your input as always.

                      3. Deulofail
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        No worries. Good luck 🙂

    3. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Setting team up to not play early wildcard but I always succumb and feel dirty afterwards

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        It's usually inevitable, so this year I'm just going to admit defeat and try to plan for it

        1. arndff_
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Last year, I played my first WC @GW19.

    4. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I am doing this though it irks me.

      The team i want in gw 5 will be ver different from gw1 for this exact reason.

      A list of players that are doubts at the start

      Kane
      TAA
      Kdb
      Sterling
      Lingard
      Hazard
      Lukaku
      Trippier
      Giroud
      Pogba
      Lloris
      Etc.

      I want to maximise others reliance on these players in august before unleashing them after the dust settles

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Nobody wants Sterling, Trippier, Giroud, Pogba or Lloris anyway 😀

        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Why wouldn't you want Sterling? Second highest scorer in the game last season. One of the few players that would probably have been in my squad if it wasn't for the World Cup.

          Pogba may also turn out to be good value.

          Having worked out a couple of squads with and without players in the quarter-finals of the World Cup, there are very few differences. I usually regret a very early wildcard. Better to wait till, say, the second international break.

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Nobody's desperate for Sterling, Trippier, Giroud, Pogba or Lloris anyway*

            There are so many other options that it's probably not going to be a problem if Sterling comes back all guns blazing. Perhaps that's a reason the FPL were gentler with the pricing this year: so people wouldn't give up before they started (or just after they started!).

            1. RedLightning
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Nobody's desperate for any player and there are alternatives to all of them (with the possible exception of Mo Salah) but it would be very unwise to completely overlook the second highest points scorer in the game last season. Far better value than Harry Kane, for instance, unless he regresses. The only problems are his price, the possibility of rotation or regression and using up an MCI slot that you might want to reserve for another player.

              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Not sure what you're arguing about or why tbh. 😉 You just listed all the reasons why people aren't too worried about leaving a spot for Sterling in their squads, and said that he difference between your current team and the hypothetical team with no World Cup is very small. Well that is everything I am saying! 😀

                These WC players aren't essential to our teams anyway. Whether or not you include Sterling in that list is up for debate (although actually no one is essential), but with all the other City options, and all the reasons you listed, I would argue that it would be better to ignore him (and the rest) to get the best team we can now, because it's basically the best team we would get anyway, rather than using the players that won't actually improve your team as a reason to wildcard early or create a suboptimal team with "routes" to incoming players.

                I guess you're just jumping on the opportunity to defend Sterling's honour 😀

                1. RedLightning
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  No, I'm simply refuting your statement that "Nobody wants Sterling, Trippier, Giroud, Pogba or Lloris anyway", which is clearly untrue.

                  Sterling is on my watchlist, and he will probably be on many other watchlists too. In fact, he is already in 4.5% of teams, and this number would surely be considerably higher if it wasn't for the World Cup.

                  He may be having a disappointing World Cup, but he had a very successful season for Man City.

                  Top Mark.s was listing players that we ought to be wary of because of their World Cup involvement, and I probably won't be including any of them in my GW1 squad; there are very few of them that I might have chosen anyway, so I am certainly not intending to play an early wildcard just to bring them in. I can use the odd free transfer instead, or stick with alternatives.

                  What have you got against him?

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    My "Nobody wants Sterling, Trippier, Giroud, Pogba or Lloris anyway" comment was a simplification of the point, "there are very few of [the world cup players] that I might have chosen anyway". That's all 🙂

                    1. RedLightning
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 13 Years
                      5 years, 9 months ago

                      So why didn't you just say "There are very few of them that I would have chosen anyway" in the first place?

                      I would agree with you on that, but not with your original comment, which wasn't any simpler and implied something quite different.

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        I've noticed you tend to take things very literally. I intended to imply what I indeded to imply, so I'm sorry if it wasn't obvious. But mostly I was just having a bit of fun 🙂

      2. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Kane was always the first name on my team sheet, and barring injury is locked in for the season...but obviously there is little point having him in GW1.
        I'm happy going Sane over Sterling.
        Lingard and Giroud are two players I'm also watching.

        As noted above I'm more interested in a potential differential team for the first, say, three GWs and WC from there.

    5. Indpush
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No. I have picked a team with this in mind so I only have to WC if so much has just gone wrong.

    6. Athletic Bilbo
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I’m not, I’m planning on avoiding World Cup players (qf onwards), and will bring them in gradually dependent on form.

      I’m resolutely targeting the second international break for the wildcard. I’d sooner take a few early hits to preserve the wc until then

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        With so many premier league players involved at the WC post QFs it might be difficult to bring them in gradually.
        The list top.marks posted above has some names we usually see in FPL teams, and more so their returns to PL action will cost a few players who are in our current teams a starting place.

        1. Athletic Bilbo
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          A good reason for not starting with the likes of Aurier, Lamela, Mahrez, Martial etc. You’re forcing yourself into a wildcard if you do that.

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Okay, but if you're not picking any players who played in the QFs or beyond, and also not picking the players who will likely play in their place, who are you going to pick? Salah and a combination of bottom 10 teams players?

            1. Athletic Bilbo
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              I’m surprised that you think this approach impossible?

              For a start, everybody will be including players from the bottom half (whoever that may be) unless they have a team without big hitting captaincy choices.

              Top 6:
              Avoid Spurs.
              Man City is rotation central anyway so everything is a punt, and will be all season.
              Man U defence unaffected apart from LB. Attack probably best avoided apart from Sanchez.
              Liverpool mostly unaffected (Firmino an iron man).
              Chelsea attack is broken by World Cup, but Chelsea just look broken full stop. Defence intact.
              Arsenal entirely unaffected.

              Every other team in the division unaffected apart from Leicester.

              So you basically avoid Spurs entirely for now and the attacks of Chelsea, Man Utd and Leicester (and Maguire).

              It’s not that difficult

            2. The Rumour Mill
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Something like:

              Ederson 4.0
              Robertson Alonso Baines Douglas Tomkins
              Sane Salah Mkhitarian Walcott 4.5
              Aubemayang Zaha 4.5

    7. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Expectation: GW19
      Reality: GW4

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I always set up a squad to go for as long as possible.
        I usually end up WCing GW3-4 although last season I did it in GW2 and then went on a terrific run!

      2. arndff_
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Last year, I met your expectation. 😛

        1. Eden Wizard
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Always waste mine 😎

    8. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      When my team needs it. Wildcarded in GW10 last season. I don't like to waste it early.

    9. ENEMY
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      If everything works fine...as late as possible!

    10. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I doubt many of is will get through the first 6 weeks of the season without using it!

  26. *sigh*
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Re: the article and budget defenders.
    I was looking forward to getting the likes of Douglas and Morrison in but they’re 5m while proven Prem players of Cedric Holebas and Daniels ilk are only 4.5. Going to have to stick with the old gaurd I suppose in the name of team balance.

    1. Salah'd n Sauce
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I feel a bit the same. I have Douglas in there. And I like the idea of some new blood in the team but feels odd vs proven players that are 4.5m

  27. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    wallcot anyone?

    great fixtures, only 6.5, despite being his 13th season he is only 29 and with loads of great history...
    also, marco silva very attacking minded coach.

    1. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He is dead to me

    2. Maddi Son
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He keeps finding a way back into my team. Proven goalscorer and only 5% ownership. He's going under the radar I think because all the casuals are jumping on Sessegnon.

  28. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Who would you rather start with in FPL?

    a) Sanchez

    b) Auba

    1. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      a

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

  29. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Early predictions for Sanchez this season?

    a) Will kick on this season showing his form of old. No world cup means he has had a rest and has a point to prove. Will be pivotal for United.

    b) Mourinho will continue to be Mourinho. Man U attacking assets not explosive or worth value.

    1. DJDave1979
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      First name on my team sheet.

    2. *sigh*
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      b unfortunately. Mou is cancer

    4. Maddi Son
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I fancy him to smash it based on nothing really.

    5. Athletic Bilbo
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A and a half?

      Don’t think he can get to his Arsenal 16-17 levels but I expect a distinct upturn

    6. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I've put him in first draft with the presumption that I can very easily move to Mkhitaryan/Ramsey/KDB/Dilva/Mane if necessary, or I don't feel he's showing enough vs LEI/bri in particular.

      With Lukaku and Rashford delayed returning + Martial going (I think...?) He could have a chance to be talismanic in the first few games and score well.

      That said, B could easily happen and max him out at 3pts in dreary 1-0 wins where Utd score through an own goal (no assist)!!

      I think I'm just gonna gamble that it won't. As I say, he's easily moveable.

  30. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone going DDG again this year or is someone like Valencia a better option?

    1. Pierce34
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I would prefer to go budget and then complain about the 'casuals' every time United keep a clean sheet.

    2. Athletic Bilbo
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Personally I’m waiting to see if any of their centre backs are nailed at 5.5m. Also like Young as an option when he’s back.

      Starting with Ederson, cheaper, better fixtures

    3. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I've gone 'Set and Forget' with DDG last two years but I think I'm going to tear that up this time.

      Last year he beat Fabianski by 15 points - which if repeated this year means 0.1m per point over the whole season.

      I don't think that's worth it at all. Particularly if you follow the logic of 'SAF' meaning that its 1.5m in budget which is permanently tied up in a premium GK and can't be distributed elsewhere.

      I could also be wrong here.... but has he saved a penalty in the last 2 seasons? He doesn't get near them - which is obviously fine in general 'cos he's amazing at everything else but from an FPL perspective is actually quite frustrating, and I think if you spend 6 on a GK they need that in their locker.

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        The problem is he is the safer way into Man United defence, which will probably be right up there for clean sheets.

        I also hate rotating 4.5m keepers and getting it wrong almost half the time.

        Heatons clean sheet at Old Trafford, whilst I played Ben Foster at home to some relegation fodder team and conceding two goals still annoys me two and half years later.

        1. Shatner's Bassoon
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          He is, and they probably will be - but I think at a certain price point it begins to have a net negative impact on the rest of your team because you can't find the extra 0.5 / 1m for the better striker / midfield option, where ceilings become higher.

          One way around the rotation headache you describe is to adopt SAF with Fabianski or Ryan with a 4.0M fodder.

          You know they'll likely break 135 points this season and that only sets you back 9.5M, which could be crucial if you're putting Salah in from the start, and want some half decent options around him.