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Learning from the experts

“Who watches the watchmen”

In my increasingly futile attempts to get better at FPL and return to my glory days of a top 10k finish (it was so long ago I think Des Lynam was presenting Match of the Day) I have decided to turn the spotlight on the experts from this very site (plus a couple of FPL galacticos) to analyse their tactics.

I have chosen 10 and I apologise in advance for those I have missed..

Mark – pretty obvious, he is the acceptable face of FPL
Jay Egersdorff – No. 1 FPLer and serial vlogger
Ville Ronka – The man/woman/myth of the FPL world but clearly very very good
The Scoutcasters – Jonty (the Duke of Dullards), Andy (Let’s Talk FPL),  AZ (Lord of the Wingbacks) , Granville, and new boy David
Torres Magic – King of the last man standing
Niemi – He is guiding me through my first Eliteserien and made me love Erik Tonne

So now I have introduced my ones to watch. This is what I have learnt so far.

Overall Performance 

A good start for all with 3 of the experts already in the top 100k. The opening weekend belonged to the managers who had Mendy, Mane, Richarlison, Robertson.

Ville Ronka benefitted from a bit of luck with Wan-Bissaka coming on as an automatic sub whilst Mark suffered bench pain with Mendy and the aforementioned Wan-Bissaka winking at him from the sidelines.

Still lots to play for and as you would have expected the experts all comfortably beat the weekly average of 53.

TorresMagic 98 (rank 19516)

Ville Ronka 97 (rank 23877)

Jonty 89 (rank 83755)

David 86 (rank 122510)

Niemi 84 (rank 155354)

Andy 83 (rank 174246)

Jay Egersdorff 77 (rank 332832)

Az 76 (rank 367966)

Granville 72 (rank 539072)

Mark 72 (rank 539072)

Team Selection

The template for the experts teams looks like this:

Foster (6) Fab (5)

Mendy (10) Wan-Bissaka (10) Robertson (7) Peltier (6) Tomkins (4)

Salah (10) Jota (7) Richarlison (6) Mane (6) Stephens (4)

Aguero (9) King (6) Kamara (4)

* brackets show number of teams they appear in

Key lesson here is if you haven’t got Salah, Mendy, and Wan-Bissaka (who would have guessed a 4.0 palace defender would have been so popular a couple of weeks ago) then maybe you are on the wrong site.

Team Investment and Formation

Average Cost of Player looks like this across the teams

Goalkeeper – 4.5
Defender – 5.0
Midfielder – 8.4
Forward – 7.9
ITB – 0.3

In general, the experts are following the trend of limiting investment upfront with Mark going the most extreme and only spending 6.8 on average for his forward line. The majority of the others have gone for Aguero plus 2 other less glamorous forwards. Only Granville (10m average forward) and David (9m average forward) have picked a couple of premium centre forwards to lift the average price.

Midfield is where we have seen the biggest investment with Ronka, Jay, Mark, Az, and Niemi  going big in midfield combining some heavy hitters and some of those 6.5 priced options which is looking to be the battleground for success this season. They are all at the 9m average cost for a midfielder.

There is still debate on the rotating keepers over the fire and forget option. 50/50 split here with the Foster/Fab option popular and the others trusting DDG, Patricio, Pickford to pick up the points.

The experts have stuck to the tried and tested formations and are split down the middle in terms of playing either 3-5-2 or 3-4-3.

Captain and Differentials

Captain Salah. Obvious to all. This week we should see Aguero come into contention although Mark has removed that temptation by not having him in his squad.

Everyone has their own special differentials. Each one of them has picked a couple of calculated punts Ozil/Deeney (Jay), Lennon (David), Maddison (Az), Adam Smith (Mark), Boly (Jonty), Lucas (Granville). Some more dubious than others but will leave with you to make that judgement.

Anyway, I will follow their every move over the coming season to see what can be learned (ie. transfers, hits).

That’s all for now and remember don’t have nightmares.

Greyhead

40 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Geoff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Let's try not to argue about what constitutes an expert 😀

    Thanks for doing this Greyhead, really looking forward to seeing how this progresses!

    1. jia you
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Haha yeah, good top post but this is fun, hopefully everyone will see the light hearted side of it!

    2. Greyhead
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks Geoff. Yes I think the term “expert” may be generous in some cases 🙂 Although I am sure each of them will teach us something over the season...

  2. johnnys balloons
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Who would you pick, need one:
    A) PVA
    B) WB
    C) Townsend

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Why do you need one

      1. johnnys balloons
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        To select for my team. Have all 3 and one of them will be my 11th player

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Jaysus Johnny, are you for real? PVA or you're pure balloonas!

    2. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      WB if you don't have him. Such great value and allows expenditure elsewhere.

    3. Nanoelektronicar
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      PVA

  3. jia you
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Jonty's (Joe's) Boly, I have him and I wonder why, am I turning dullard? 😉

  4. Baps hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Ville Rönkä is certainly male. Or at least his first name is not allowed for females in Finland 😉

    1. Greyhead
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Well I have least learned one thing then this season.

  5. LeicesterA
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Riveting one folks. Would you play Peltier or Cedric this week?

    Ta,

    1. jia you
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      ABP

  6. Baberto
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Need the team ids pf all your experts just to see if you're bluffing :p

  7. Badluck Jonathan
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Of all the people to get Wan-Bissaka off the bench...

  8. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/11474231/mauricio-pochettino-anticipating-players-leaving-tottenham-before-european-deadline

    I hope Aurier leaves, want Trippier to be nailed on, but thats wishful thinking

  9. Klopp\'s Angels
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Bad start for mark?! Well it is a marathon and not a sprint 🙂

  10. Fazzinho
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know Ville Ronka fpl id?

    1. Bezzer
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/entry/829593/history

      I keep a close eye on Ville each season. King of Kings in my book.

  11. Numb
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Is this the new “HOF top five” analysis article?

    Not sure some of these are experts though. Have you seen the records of some of these?

    1. Niemi
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I would certainly not include myself on a list with "experts", although I'm flattered 🙂

    2. Greyhead
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Just a bit of fun. Appreciate in some cases there may be better qualified experts e.g. You.:-)

    3. Geoff
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      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      It isn't, as Greyhead says it's just a bit of fun.

      TopMarx will be doing his as well I think, just not as regularly as last season

  12. Niemi
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Erik Tønne though 😀

  13. TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Interesting article, strange getting a mention.

  14. The Real Big Vern
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Seeing that template doesn't make me worry about my squad

    DDG 4m
    Mendy Robertson Walker Alonso TAA
    Salah Richarl Neves Cariney CHO
    Aguero Laca Jiminez

    1. Eden Wizard
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Thinly veiled RMT exposed 😆

  15. Jaws
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    As much as I appreciate the article it's a bit silly to add David to this list with a personal best of 177K.

    1. Geoff
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      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      It's tracking prominent FPL users, more than making suggestions. Everyone is aware of David's history at this point let's watch and see how he surprises everyone with a top 1k finish 😀

      1. willl
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Should be titled 'learning from the prominent FPL users' then 😉

        1. Geoff
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          • 11 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I did change it in edit but then decided I'd go with what Greyhead submitted - I don't want to go changing the submitted content too much.

          Hoped the first comment would avoid this but apparently not 😉

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Elitist - We all know it's a 90% luck game.

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      This - I imagine David doesn't feel great about this constantly being raised either. Just re-brand him - it's really not that difficult.

  16. DJDave1979
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    'If you haven't got Salah, Mendy and WB maybe you are on the wrong site?'

    Not everyone comes on for others to pick their teams for them.

    Interesting experiment and thank you for it but this was an unnecessary point.

  17. ClutchingStraws
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know 'fpl general' fpl id?

      1. ClutchingStraws
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers TM