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23 July 2019 988 comments
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The pre-season picture continued to build over the weekend as nearly every Premier League team was in action.

The summer friendlies have really started to ramp up now and we’ve got all the key talking points from the latest batch of games.

We’ve also updated our pre-season minutes spreadsheets so Fantasy managers have an accurate picture of which players are getting more game-time.

Girona 2-1 Bournemouth

Fraser scored Bournemouth’s only goal of the game as they lost to Girona

Goals: Ryan Fraser (£7.5m)

Assists: Jordon Ibe (£5.0m)

Uncertainty continues to reign over Eddie Howe’s first-choice defensive set-up.

The Bournemouth manager is still very much in the early stages of pre-season preparation, considering that a large number of youngsters were mixed with senior players against Girona on Saturday.

He went with two starting XIs for the 2-1 defeat, which means Fantasy managers must keep guessing on certain issues before we have more data to work with.

The goalkeeper situation is especially unclear still as Mark Travers (£4.5m) played the first 45 while Artur Boruc (£4.5m) came on for him at half-time.

The former was impressive towards the back-end of last season but nearly caused a calamitous own-goal on Saturday.

His clearance cannoned into Nathan Aké‘s (£5.0m) torso before only just sailing wide of his empty goal.

Against Girona, there was no involvement for Asmir Begovic (£4.5m) against the Italian side but he did get 45 minutes in the first pre-season match.

There is also plenty of interest in the left-back position with Fantasy managers hoping Diego Rico (£4.0m) will emerge as the favoured candidate.

After two matches, both he and new signing Lloyd Kelly (£4.5m) have played a total of 90 minutes there, made up of two 45-minute outings, while Charlie Daniels (£4.5m) is yet to be involved.

Also in the £4.0m department is Jack Simpson, who featured in the second-half XI.

However, he lasted just 22 minutes before giving away a penalty and earning a red card after a VAR review.

In the first-half, Howe deployed Callum Wilson (£8.0m) and Dominic Solanke (£5.5m) as the centre-forward and number 10 respectively in a 4-4-1-1 formation.

The pair linked up nicely on occasion but could not find a breakthrough.

There was mild concern among the Fantasy community on Saturday as Josh King (£6.5m) was absent from the matchday squad, with little information explaining this thus far.

Instead, the second-half saw Sam Surridge (£4.5m) lead the line, with David Brooks (£6.5m) tucked in behind him.

Crucially, Ryan Fraser (£7.5m) scored his second goal in as many pre-season matches, after an impressive run from Jordon Ibe (£5.0m) in midfield.

First-half Bournemouth XI (4-4-1-1): Travers; Rico, Aké, Mepham, A Smith; Kilkenny, Ofoborh, Gosling, Dobre; Solanke; Wilson.

Second-half Bournemouth XI (4-4-1-1): Boruc; L Kelly, Simpson, Ofoborh, Stacey; Fraser, Butcher, Surman, Ibe; Brooks; Surridge.

Fulham 2-1 Brighton and Hove Albion

Despite the defeat, Potter’s new-look Brighton offered a more attractive display compared to the end of last season

Goals: Pascal Groß (£6.5m)

Assists: None

While it was a defeat for Brighton against Fulham, there continue to be more encouraging signs under new manager Graham Potter.

The former Swansea boss deployed his troops in a 4-2-3-1 formation and instilled a more attractive approach, especially in the first half.

Dale Stephens (£4.5m) and Davy Pröpper (£5.0m) were credited by the local press for their ability to initiate offensive moves.

The attacking midfield trio of Jurgen Locadia (£5.5m), Pascal Groß (£6.5m) and Solly March (£5.0m) also showed some promise, with the system unlocking Groß’s potential as a number 10 once more.

The three attacking midfielders were quite fluid going forward too, with March occasionally moving into a central role and Groß drifting to the right, while Locadia was particularly lively down the left.

It was Groß who scored Brighton’s only goal of the game in the first half. It was an unorthodox one as his free-kick, whipped in from left, saw Glenn Murray (£6.0m) duck underneath it to wrong-foot the goalkeeper and allow the ball to sail into the back of the net.

We may only be a few matches into the pre-season campaign but it does appear at this early stage that Murray remains the first-choice at centre-forward ahead of Florin Andone (£5.0m).

The former has 106 minutes to his name so far, while Andone has just 74.

The Romanian international came on just after the hour-mark against Fulham and displayed more of that fiery attitude.

He was drawn into a heated debate with the referee concerning a throw-in decision.

New signing Leandro Trossard (£6.0m) came on for Locadia at half-time although this far into pre-season, it is hard to be sure who he will displace if he claims a regular starting spot.

There was no Anthony Knockaert (£5.5m) involved for Brighton on Saturday as he was completing a season-long loan to opponents Fulham.

“The move is a good one for the club and Anthony. The wide positions are areas in which we have a lot of competition within the squad.” – Graham Potter

Meanwhile, Mat Ryan (£4.5m) got his first minutes of pre-season, playing the first half before being replaced by Jason Steele.

Brighton XI (4-2-3-1): Ryan (Steele 45′); Bernardo (Suttner 75′), Dunk, Duffy (Burn 61′), Montoya (A Davies 87′); Stephens (Dreyer 85′), Pröpper (Kayal 61′); Locadia (Trossard 45′), Groß, March (Jahanbakhsh 61′); Murray (Andone 61′).

Crewe Alexandra 1-0 Burnley
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Port Vale 1-3 Burnley

Robbie Brady was one of the Burnley players to impress against Port Vale

Goals: Chris Wood (£6.5m), Matej Vydra (£5.5m), Robbie Brady (£5.5m)

Assists: Brady, Wood, Aaron Lennon (£5.0m)

There was another double set of pre-season fixtures for Burnley on Saturday as they split their squad across matches against Crewe and Port Vale.

For that reason, we have treated the two matches as one entry on the pre-season minutes spreadsheet as it was impossible for players to have been involved in both.

The side that faced Port Vale had better luck, with Chris Wood (£6.5m) in particular going from strength-to-strength this summer.

Having netted a hat-trick against Accrington Stanley, he grabbed a goal and an assist on Saturday, taking his total attacking returns for pre-season to five.

Robbie Brady (£5.5m) also did well against Port Vale contributing a goal and assist.

After 90 minutes against the Valiants, Ben Gibson (£4.0m) currently has more pre-season minutes to his name than any other defender in his price point.

That may cause some excitement among Fantasy managers but it is still early days.

It is important to point out that Ben Mee (£5.0m) missed out on Saturday’s matches, but Dyche has insisted it is nothing serious, and he is naturally more likely to start alongside James Tarkowski (£5.0m) in Gameweek 1.

“Ben Mee’s nothing serious. We’re just monitoring people. At this stage, you can’t take any risks at all. Even today, we explained before the game that if anyone feels anything at all that’s not the norm then they’ve got to come straight off. I’m pleased they didn’t because I want to get the minutes into them.” – Sean Dyche

Amid Fantasy interest, Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) was absent again with a groin problem.

As things stand, Dyche is hoping that the former Leeds left-back will be able to face Fleetwood on Tuesday.

“Charlie worked hard yesterday and did some more work today. We’re hoping he’ll join in training from Monday onwards and we’ll have to make a decision for the game on Tuesday.” – Sean Dyche

Steven Defour (£5.5m) continues to be a serious doubt for the start of the season as he recovers from calf surgery.

“Steven Defour’s not right at the minute and we’ve got to make sure with him. I don’t know (if he’ll be right for the start of the season). There’s no pressure on him because he’s been through a serious injury and it’s important he has time to get over that.” – Sean Dyche

Burnley XI vs Crewe (4-4-2): Pope; Pieters, Dunne, Long, Lowton; McNeil, Westwood, Benson, Gudmundsson; Rodriguez, Barnes.

Burnley XI vs Port Vale (4-4-2): Heaton (Hart 45); Koiki, Tarkowski, Gibson, Bardsley; Brady, Hendrick, Cork, Lennon; Vydra, Wood.

Cheltenham Town 1-2 Leicester City

Vardy opened his pre-season account against Cheltenham

Goals: Jamie Vardy (£9.0m), Marc Albrighton (£5.5m)

Assists: Youri Tielemans (£6.5m), Nampalys Mendy (£4.5m)

Jamie Vardy (£9.0m) got his first goal of pre-season on Saturday as Leicester beat Cheltenham 2-1.

As was often the case towards the back-end of last season, the forward scored after latching onto a through-ball from Youri Tielemans (£6.5m).

Even though it’s just pre-season at this stage, and the level of opposition is not particularly high, Fantasy managers can certainly take encouragement from the two players continuing their understanding over the summer.

After picking up an injury in Leicester’s first pre-season friendly, new signing Ayoze Pérez (£6.5m) missed the Cheltenham match. Brendan Rodgers seemed confident that the player would be involved this week though.

“He should be fine next week. He just picked up a knock in training and his ankle was swollen up so he will be back next week.” – Brendan Rodgers

Pérez’s absence meant that Rodgers was a little short of options in attacking positions, so Ricardo Pereira (£6.0m) was used on the right flank of midfield in the second half.

While this was an out-of-position deployment for the defender, all accounts of his performance weren’t particularly positive, and Rodgers generally avoided playing Pereira in advanced positions last season after taking over from Claude Puel.

There were a few names who remain absent from pre-season matches so far, including Ben Chilwell (£5.5m), Kasper Schmeichel (£5.0m) and Matty James (£4.5m), but Rodgers has put them down to relatively minor injuries.

“Ben (Chilwell) had a slight issue with his groin but he is fine now, so he should be okay for Tuesday, he is back in training. Kasper (Schmeichel) is just a bit of time, sort of building him up, so he will feature over the course of the next week. And Matty (James) unfortunately just had a little occurrence of an injury but it should only be 10 days to 2 weeks before he is back, which is a shame because he’s worked ever so hard over pre-season.” – Brendan Rodgers

By contrast, Marc Albrighton (£5.5m) who struggled with injuries last season, has looked particularly sharp in both pre-season games so far.

The local press have been admiring the winger’s physical condition and work rate claiming that he appears as if “he has already completed weeks of pre-season”.

Albrighton rounded off his recent displays by scoring the second goal against Cheltenham.

Finally, Rachid Ghezzal (£5.5m) was also absent on Saturday, although the Algerian was not injured. Rodgers revealed that he gave the player some personal time off.

“I gave him time off, he became a father yesterday. He trained up until Thursday. It was already planned, which you can do nowadays. “So, he said his wife was going to give birth on the Friday, so I said ‘Yep, okay. Train Thursday and fly back for Friday’. His wife had a baby boy, which is great, so he has the weekend there, he will fly back tomorrow (Sunday) and get back to work on Monday.” – Brendan Rodgers

First-half Leicester XI (4-1-4-1): Ward; Elder (Fuchs, 43’), Maguire, Morgan, Daley-Campbell; Amartey; Muskwe, Thomas, King, Wright; Iheanacho.

Second half Leicester XI (4-1-4-1): Ward; Fuchs, Evans, Soyuncu, Justin; Mendy; Albrighton, Tielemans, Ndukwu (Fitzhugh, 81’), R Pereira; Vardy.

Borussia Dortmund 3-2 Liverpool

Matip in action for Liverpool against Borussia Dortmund

Goals: Harry Wilson, Rhian Brewster

Assists: Fabinho (£5.5m), Ben Woodburn

Liverpool’s key players are slowly dripping back into the first-team picture as the pre-season picture continues to build.

It was mostly a second-string side named to start against Borussia Dortmund on Saturday, but more important personnel featured in the second half.

Andrew Robertson (£7.0m), Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) and Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) all made their first appearance for the Reds this summer as they emerged in the 60th minute.

However, Saturday’s match took us no closer to understanding which of Joe Gomez (£5.5m), Joel Matip (£5.5m) or Dejan Lovren (£5.5m) will partner van Dijk at centre-back this season.

Gomez and Matip both played an hour against Dortmund, while Lovren joined van Dijk as a 60th-minute substitute.

Also returning to playing duties were central midfielders Jordan Henderson (£5.5m) and Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m).

Divock Origi (£5.5m) continues to get plenty of minutes under his belt as he hopes to be involved in the early part of the season for Liverpool, with Sadio Mané (£11.5m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) still on extended leave.

He played 60 minutes at the apex of the Reds’ front-three.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Mignolet; Larouci (Robertson 60′); Gomez (Lovren 60′), Matip (van Dijk 60′), Clyne (Alexander-Arnold 60′); Fabinho (Wijnaldum 60′), Oxlade-Chamberlain (Henderson 60′), Milner (Lewis 60′); Kent (Woodburn 60′), Origi (Brewster 60′), Wilson (Jones 60′).

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  1. Andrew
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts please:-

    Ryan (Button)
    Robbo Digne Zinchenko Aarons (Kelly)
    Salah Zaha Sterling Perez (Hayden)
    Kane King (Greenwood)

    1. Goat
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      8.5/10

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Get rid of Ryan
      Who is Aaron's?
      Great otherwise!

      1. Andrew
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Aarons is Norwich attacking wing back

        1. WVA
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Bad shout, awful fixtures.

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Dont know about playing Aarons week in, week out so i might downgrade Zaha for an upgrade there. But its a good a Sterling Salah Kane team as I've seen. 9/10

      1. Andrew
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah Aarons every week is my main concern, maybe I'll go Cathcart at Watford

        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          With Dawson coming in Cathcart may not be a guaranteed starter. In the friendlies it's been kabasele and Dawson mostly i think

    4. ritzyd
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Actually quite nice considering you have the big three in there.

    5. jayzico
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      who's aarons?

  2. Goat
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    A) Bilva & Wilson
    B) KDB & King

    Currently on B but only recently noticed I could go A. Cheers for any response

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B
      Bilva not very good for FPL

    2. jayzico
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A could get more points I think. Just.

  3. IRBOX ⚽
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Much love here?

    Pope
    Trent VVD Digne Zinchenko
    Salah KDB Siggy Norwood
    Kane King

    Heaton Dendoncker Dunk Greenwood

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Kane or Sterling is the question

      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        100%

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Vardy or KDB is one too...

          1. IRBOX ⚽
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I think KDB is essential if not going for Sterling.. so Kane dictates that decision over Vardy

    2. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I think it's good. I'd be tempted to move Sigurdsson and Norwood > Perez and someone else around 6.0/6.5, also King > Jota, but thats just personal preference. Nice structure too.

      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers mate, I have a feeling Siggy could start with a bang. Norwood on all set pieces is juicy for 5.0. The problem is not a great deal of options in the 6.0-7.0 range especially considering I don’t feel Leicester’s opening fixtures

  4. King Kohli
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Best two mids for 12.5 for the first 3-4 weeks?

    Thinking of Brooks & Pereyra.

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      moura + norwood

    2. Rust Cohle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Brooks & Trossard.

  5. jayzico
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry for another similar question - but most you guys a lot more clued up than me.

    WHo, in order, are the best 4m options. I'mc currently on:

    Hanley
    Lundstam
    Kelly
    Rico

    ???

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Personally, I'd avoid like the plague. I see no AWBs or Bennetts in that bunch.

    2. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Gibson (depending on transfers - Tarkowski rumored to be going to Leicester to replace Maguire)
      Rico - conflicting reports, but some say Howe wants to give him more time this season.
      Lundstam - has started some games in midfield, but isn't first choice.
      Don't know about the other two.

  6. milanista10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Is Maitland Niles nailed as long as Bellerin is out, so should be safe for the first 2 GWs?

    1. jia you
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      But he is an Arsenal defender, don't see too much in the way of CS

      1. milanista10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        But new and BUR are quite decent fixtures if the plan is to WC early..

        1. jia you
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          true, could prove a shrewd one and don't see too many starting with an Arsenal defender

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I'm waiting for Holding to get fit. Only 4.5 and should be ahead of Mustafa at CB.

          2. milanista10
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Have to say that I considered him in a BB team, won’t get him in a normal starting XI though.

  7. jamest4
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    a) Fabianksi, Sterling and Zaha
    b) Ederson, KDB, Siggy

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B with 0.5 in change

      1. jamest4
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Potential change if i go with be:
        a) KDB & Vardy (+£0.5m)
        b) BSilva & Kane

    2. The Mighty Hippo
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      B looks much stronger

      1. jamest4
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Worry is Sterling but I think I agree

  8. Carlton_Goal
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Don't really know much about any of the newly promoted teams apart from the crazy season Pukki just had. Is there anyone in particular I should be looking at/keeping an eye on in any of them?

      1. Carlton_Goal
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks, I had somehow managed to miss this entire section of the site, a lot of info on there!

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A few on my watchlist.

      Emi Buendia (6.0 NOR). A very creative midfielder whi was brought in to replace Madisson, and was generally a success. Scored 8 and assisted 17 in all comps last season. One to watch. Not on penalties, unfortunately.

      Enda Stevens (5.0, SHU): An attacking full back who hauled 4 goals and 6 assists in the Championship last season. In his previous club Portsmouth, he had back-to-back seasons where he hauled 9(!) assists. If anyone is going to be Doherty-eqsue, think its this guy.

      Conor Hourihane (6.0 AVL): A central midifielder who hauled 8 goals 11 assists last season, 11 goals 2 assists the season before.

      1. Carlton_Goal
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks, will be sure to keep an eye on them

      2. avfc82
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        If Douglas Luiz signs as expected, Hourihane is no longer an option.

        1. Differential C (Mark)
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Ah bummer, cheers for the heads up!

  9. Differential C (Mark)
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Who will score more?

    A)Vardy vs WOL(H) & CHE(A)

    B)WIlson vs SHU(H) & AVL(A)

    Surely B, right?

    1. jia you
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Based on fixtures, have to go B as much as I like Vardy. Also that 1.0 can do wonders for the rest of the team!

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers , mate!

  10. SADIO SANÉ
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    RP from late last night - I know it doesn't mean all that much but quite an interesting tweet by @CleanWipeoutFPL
    https://twitter.com/CleanWipeoutFPL/status/1153434060611608580

    'I have read a lot about planning for the first 6 gw’s and how certain fixtures seem too hard to ignore, so I have tried to investigate and produced a thread below are the outcomes from the same fixtures last season without AVL, NOR & SHU.'

    ones I found interesting:
    *Aubameyang - from 5 games; 5 goals
    *Barnes - from 5 games; 3 goals
    Chelsea - from 4 games; 0 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses - 0 clean sheets (not including nor & SHU obviously)
    Palace - from 4 games; 0 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses - 0 goals!
    *Vardy - from 5 games; 3 goals
    Liverpool - from 5 games; *1 CLEAN SHEET*, top scorer *Firmino with 4 goals
    Man City - from 5 games; 5 wins, *4 clean sheets*, top scorer *Sterling with 5 goals
    Spurs - from 5 games; *3 clean sheets*, top scorer *Son with 3 goals
    *Jimenez - from 6 games; 3 goals

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Unfortunately can’t extrapolate this data so like you said.. it doesn’t mean much

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        yes but still interesting, Auba already seemed a good pick that many don't have, does this back that up?; Barnes has been completely overlooked and is on pens I think? Fixtures not bad for Vardy, same with Jimenez - as some on here have already pointed out. Liverpool might not get the 3/4 clean sheets some might expect, are the Spurs/City defenders much better value?

        1. EMBOLOFAN
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          it doesnt back anything up

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            OKAY

    2. BoomXhakaLaca1
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      "shut up"

    3. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Meh.. insignificant and completely uninteresting. Twitter user grasping at straws to find something people will retweet

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        damn

  11. Party time
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Where would Man utd & Chelsea be ranked this season?

    • Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Oh dear Tammy, misses a tap in after great work by Pulisic.

      1. Party time
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Tammy is not a useful footballer imo

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Just scuffed another good opportunity.

            Thought he quite good at Villa last year.

            1. Rotation's Alter Ego
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              That was Pulisic no?

              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Might have been! 😳

                1. Rotation's Alter Ego
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  The shooting has been painful to watch, don't blame you 😉

                  1. Piggs Boson
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 7 months ago

                    Azpi's been great though. Him or Luiz could be handy at 6.0m this year if Digne fails.

                    1. Rotation's Alter Ego
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      6 years, 7 months ago

                      Liked the look of both full backs.

                      Could be interesting if Luiz got penalties too, but haven't seen it mentioned much

        • HamezMace
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Trying to keep his FPL price down, good lad.

        • Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          4th pre-season s it? Chelsea still very sluggish. Only consistent is Mount's quality. C'mon Towers, price him up!

      2. Fordy40
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Thoughts if you would ?

        Ederson
        VVD-TAA-Zinchenko-Coleman
        Salah-KDB-Siggy-Milivojevic-
        King-Vardy

        Button-Kelly-Dendoncker-Greenwood

        Gone for a few penalty takers as I think there’ll be a lot more with VAR in every game

      3. Gringo Kid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Today's dilemma

        A) Digne/Siggy/Wilson
        B) Coleman/Moura/Vardy

      4. Foogle
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        So I currently have a back 4 of:

        TAA-Coleman-Aurier-Walker with (Targett) on the bench

        Villa have good fixtures 2-5 and I was thinking of rotating Targett with Aurier week 2 (MCi) and 4 (Ars), as well as TAA week 3 (Ars). Targett's fixtures in that time are Bou (H), Eve (H), Cry (A).

        The question is will I even get more points rotating him in or would I be better just keeping the premium defenders with bad fixtures in and using the 0.5m elsewhere?

        1. EMBOLOFAN
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          aurier not nailed

      5. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Just read a story that Bruno Fernandez has a £31m release clause. What's stopping the clubs who are interested in him from meeting that? Seems a bargain.

        1. AuFeld
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Probably personal terms.

        2. Chandler Bing
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Pretty sure you're wrong here as Sporting just rejected a 50M bid a few days ago.

          1. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11768737/bruno-fernandes-says-he-wants-to-play-in-england-amid-man-utd-interest

            Fernandes signed a new five-year contract with Sporting only last summer, although that deal includes a £31m release clause.

        3. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          The market tends to be like selling property; just takes one end of the chain to complete and all the deals will drop like dominoes 🙂

          1. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            You're right about that.
            Waiting on the Maguire deal, so all the rest can start fighting over Dunk, Tarkowski etc.

        4. Bucket Man
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Think I heard Sporting can stop it by paying him so many million to remove release clause.

        5. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I don't think that's true. Contradicting stories have come out of Portugal in regards to Bruno. Not sure about the release clause, but Sky Sports (if you choose to believe them) did say on their podcast that Sporting have to pay Bruno 5m Euros for every bid they reject over 35m Euros. So Sporting could have stalled on all offers, and just accept the highest one as opposed to rejecting several and paying Bruno.

          1. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Yes that's the story I'm referring to, have posted the link above, and Carlton has done so below as well.

            So has a bid come in then? Do they have to pay him 5m euros for every bid they reject? Could be quite a lucrative summer for Bruno.

            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              My understanding from listening to the Sky Sports podcast is that they will have to pay him 5m euros for every bid they reject which would explain why no bids have been made public. Seems like Sporting are waiting until the last moment and will sell him to whoever has bid the highest. Thus, accepting the highest offer and not rejecting any others (so they don't have to pay Bruno). That makes sense, but who knows if it's the truth 🙂

              1. HamezMace
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Such a bizarre clause, reminds me of the summer Suarez was £50,000,001, and still rejected.

            2. JIMMY TUGGINS
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I heard on SSN that it only applies once.

          2. Bucket Man
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            That's it

        6. Carlton_Goal
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          According to this article from Sky, Sporting can reject an offer if it meets the release clause as long as they pay Fernandes a fee in compensation.
          https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11768737/bruno-fernandes-says-he-wants-to-play-in-england-amid-man-utd-interest

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah, that's a fascinating clause. If someone bids 31M he gets a pay rise. For every million above 31 he gets a bigger payrise. Hope is agent is a scrupulous as the day is long!

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              By the way, there's a name no one is talking about. you heard it here first.

              Tuanzebe. If United don't stump up for Maguire, I can see this lad stepping up to first team CB. I'm already visualising him and Greenwood as a United double-up. On my bench, 4.5 each.

              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Tuanzebe is class. OGS said "He is the future of Manchester United" after the Inter game. So he is in his thinking.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  Exactly. When he's in 50% of squads in GW1, just remember who told you first!!! 😉

      6. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        People are deluding themselves on Greenwood. There'll be a shed load of players swapping him out for Origi when they realise he's starting at 5.5m and Greenwood is on the pine. Price drop for sure.

        1. IRBOX ⚽
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Greenwood is fodder. Origi is a transfer out waiting to happen once Mane and Firmino are good to go

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Once that happens, yes, but it could be GW4 before Origi loses his place. Plenty of time for a bandwagon to start.

            1. jtreble
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              “... it could be GW4 before Origi loses his place ...”. Origi is only going to play GW1 IMHO.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Mané not joining up with the Liverpool squad until August 4th, after the Charity Shield. I think it's fair to anticipate 2 weeks pre-season, and that's would still be considered rushed.

                https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool/liverpool-fc-star-sadio-mane-to-miss-community-shield-tie-with-man-city-as-forward-is-eased-back-a4195146.html

        2. In FPHell
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Doubt it, no one has greenwood in the their first XI, he’s just a 4.5 with a chance of getting minutes

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I swear each season we all look into the Men-In-Black bright light and forget what happens at the start of every season! People are so impatient and transfer decent picks that are starting games, never mind those that deserve to be sold for playable bench fodder.

        3. HamezMace
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          No one will start with £1m in the bank, and even if they do, bringing in Origi AFTER GW1 when Mane is back is madness.

        4. EMBOLOFAN
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          hes 4.5

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah, because they're not going to take a hit. 😕

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              most people dont have 3 strikers

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                *Most people on FFS don't have 3 strikers.

            2. HamezMace
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I'll be surprised if anyone who takes FPL as seriously as we do, will start the season with Greenwood as a starting player, and then take a hit to bring in Origi.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Correct. It'll be the serious players selling him so they don't suffer a price drop.

                1. HamezMace
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  Selling Greenwood? To who?

                  Has anyone on here got Greenwood as a starting player?

                  1. Twisted Saltergater
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    6 years, 7 months ago

                    You've been playing this game for 4 years. I practically guarantee you will not own Greenwood after GW3 because:

                    a) he's not starting games
                    b) someone else priced 4.5 - 5.5m is.
                    c) you're worried about a price drop

                    1. HamezMace
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 7 months ago

                      I've actually played more than 4 years, but yes.

                      I won't be getting Greenwood because I'm very confident he won't start many games.

                      The teams I have seen him in, are playing 5-4-1, or 4-4-2 generally, and not counting on him as a starter, which is fair enough. (I play 3-4-3)

                      You're right, some more casual players, might think he'll start and pick him, but even when they realise he's not starting, who will they transfer him too, none of the 4.5s will start GW1. So with no easy transfer available, they'll just be stuck.

                      If Salah, Sterling, Kane blank GW1 - whichever mid priced option (think Steve Mounie) bangs in a hat trick will be transferred in, and one of those premiums will have the first price drop.

                    2. Nico.
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 7 months ago

                      You mean you’ve never owned a bench fodder...?

                      Wow, ok.

        5. Vobinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Also add to the fact that there are other options apart from Origi - will Brewster get a chance of minutes after a good pre season? Same goes for Harry Wilson?

          I know they wont start but they could eat into Origi minutes.

        6. jia you
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Much prefer to start with Greenwood on my bench than go with Origi. Don't see the point, much rather have Salah and double LIV defence in place than planning a transfer down the track. If you are set on an early wildcard perhaps it might be worth the punt though

        7. avfc82
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I have doubts Origi will be starting, but get what you mean!

        8. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          You're all taking this too literally. Origi is an example. Bench fodder with a high starting ownership that aren't playing, never fare well.

          1. IRBOX ⚽
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            High ownership players require more transfers out for a price fall than low ownership players. He’s a great fodder pick and safety in numbers

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              That's true, but almost all players are active at the start of the season so it's a moot point. This only becomes relevant later in the season when a lot of dead teams from the start help preserve a player's value. It's a fire sale at the beginning.

          2. jia you
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Greenwood has looked excellent so far in preseason and Ole will play him I feel if he keeps it up!

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              He's an excellent prospect, but will only make appearance from the bench once Martial, Lingard, Mata, Sanchez are up to speed.

          3. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I've actually made the same case about people starting with Origi.
            There isn't a striker below 6.5m that anyone will actually want, so if you plan to start Origi (to fit in Salah, Sterling, Kane for example) you're going to have to find £1m from somewhere once Origi loses his place after GW1 - that's if he even starts GW1.

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              GW3/4 is an easier time to do that as we see which mids in the 5-6.5m range are worth downgrading to. We're not prepared to take that risk ahead of GW1.

      7. Emiliano Sala
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Just a random draft
        Thoughts?

        Ederson
        TAA VVD Laporte Digne Zinchenko
        Salah Perez
        Kane Vardy DCL

        3×4.5

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          no sterling

          no thanks

          1. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Thought you were on the Kane train?

            1. Christina.
              • 16 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I am.

              1. HamezMace
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                No Salah, or what?

                1. Christina.
                  • 16 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  Salah + Sterling + Kane

                  4.5m
                  TAA Digne ZZ
                  Salah Sterling Perez Norwood
                  Kane Delefeo King

                  4.5m def

                  1. Christina.
                    • 16 Years
                    6 years, 7 months ago

                    or...

                    Salah Sterling Perez Norwood Fraser
                    Kane

                    Spend the 1m saved as you like

                  2. Andy_Social
                    • 13 Years
                    6 years, 7 months ago

                    Ballsy. Deu + King - would you rather they were 6.5 defenders?

                    1. Christina.
                      • 16 Years
                      6 years, 7 months ago

                      Might switch one to vvd. Prob Delefeo.

                  3. HamezMace
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 7 months ago

                    I landed on something similar, not sure I can get behind Norwood, after the scars of Cairney last season.

                    1. Christina.
                      • 16 Years
                      6 years, 7 months ago

                      4 weeks only. WC first IB.

                      1. HamezMace
                        • 11 Years
                        6 years, 7 months ago

                        And you expect to have to lose one of the big three on that WC?

                        1. Christina.
                          • 16 Years
                          6 years, 7 months ago

                          Prob kane for Son. Sterling and Salah not going anywhere.

                          PS: Between me and you, I'm probably starting with Moura over Kane in week 1...

                          1. HamezMace
                            • 11 Years
                            6 years, 7 months ago

                            Probably shouldn't have said that so publicly then

                          2. Christina.
                            • 16 Years
                            6 years, 7 months ago

                            ..as long as Jacky Boy does not find out...

                          3. Andy_Social
                            • 13 Years
                            6 years, 7 months ago

                            Right, cheers Christina. Rigged up a squad with Salah, Sterling and Kane. Still managed a power-back-5.
                            5-4-1 formation. I quite like it!

                          4. Christina.
                            • 16 Years
                            6 years, 7 months ago

                            nice!

        2. IRBOX ⚽
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Structure is too limiting

        3. EMBOLOFAN
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          dont mind it but dcl is garbage

        4. jia you
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          No guarantee that DCL or Zinc starts so its a bit risky atm. No BOU attack could hurt you in GW1.

      8. Ninjaa
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Ryan (Button)
        Robertson Zinchenko Digne (Dunk Kelly)
        Sterling Salah Siggy Fraser Zaha
        King Deulofeu (Greenwood)

        Or

        Ryan (Button)
        Robertson Zinchenko Coleman (Dunk Kelly)
        Sterling Salah Siggy Fraser Dendonker
        King Firminho (Greenwood)

        Thoughts?

      9. Rotation's Alter Ego
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        1-0 Chelsea - Tammy goal

        1. Chandler Bing
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Assist?

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Busquets

          2. Rotation's Alter Ego
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Jorginho. Good assists, unlucky not to have had more last season

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              might be on pens too 🙂

      10. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Tammy goal. Rounded the keeper. Redeemed!

        1. Party time
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Excuse me, Are you sure it is Tammy?!!

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I am 😆

              1. Party time
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  🙂

            2. HamezMace
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Bugger.

              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                You would really trust him to start every game with Bats and Giroud sniffing about?

                No chance I'm starting with a Chelsea forward.

                1. HamezMace
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  If Abrahams starts 2 of the next 3 friendlies, and comes in at 7m - then I'll be very tempted.

                  Chelsea strikers are usually £10m+

            3. Quinninho
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              What will be his starting price???

              1. Teror
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                6.0

          • Aubaaaaa
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Which option?
            A. Sterling Rashford
            B. KDB Kane

            1. Bucket Man
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              B

            2. Foogle
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              B

          • Tabasco
            • 15 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I realise this may be a common dilemma with no definitive answer but what would you choose:

            A) Sterling, Pérez & Wilson
            B) KDB, Fraser & Vardy & 0.5m

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              a (even if you have salah)

          • Differential C (Mark)
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            The Southampton XI vs Guangzhou are out. Keep in mind that most of the senior players are in Dublin, and only a handful are in Macau for this friendly.

            Forster
            Valery Yoshida Klarer Vokins
            Smallbone O'Connor
            Sims Slattery
            Long Adams

            4-2-2-2

            Bench are mostly academy players.

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              thoughts on ings this year? was flicking through saints forums and people didnt seem hopeful

              1. Differential C (Mark)
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Looked sharp, as per usual. Its just the fitness issues are what bug me. Love him, hate his cursed glass legs.
                But in his interview when he signed permanently, he did say he felt better and better as he continued adapting himself to the system, and so maybe he can be better fit this season?
                Either way, 6.0m for an injury-free Ings is the biggest steal in FPL imo, its just a question of IF he stays fit.

                1. EMBOLOFAN
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  thanks!

            2. Differential C (Mark)
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Keep an eye for Vokins. A very decent attacking full-back who Hasenhuttl seems to really like. Not in the game yet, unfortunately.
              And of course, the man himself, Che Adams. Has already scored in his first preseason game, hoping he adds to his tally.

          • ShaunGoater123
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            does anyone have any idea when the rest of the players will be added to the game based on previous years? People like Mount , Abraham, Nelson etc who FPL are waiting on to see if they are loaned out before adding.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              We're all waiting. i'm guessing FPL Towers are waiting to see if previous loanees don't go back out on loan. Eg will Zouma be at Chelsea or Everton, Tammy at Chelsea or Villa etc.

              1. ShaunGoater123
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                yeah just wondered if anyone had any insight on when in previous seasons similar sorts of players were added.

                wait and see i guess!

          • Lignja
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I think im happy with this.

            Ryan
            Robertson, Taa, Coleman, Zincenko
            Salah, Sterling, Sigurdson, Perez
            Delufeu, Wilson

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              pretty templatey but cant argue

            2. Tabasco
              • 15 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I've got that the moment, but Digne over Coleman. What did you do with the other 0.5?

              1. Tabasco
                • 15 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Oh never mind, I have Van Dijk too.

            3. Teror
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I really like that one lad. Identical team to mine cept I have Pope, Richarlison and Jota over Ryan, Sig, Delo. Would suggest you do the same imo.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Why you prefer Jota over Deulofeu from the off? Over the course of a season, I think Jota is the better pick but Watford have decent opening 4 fixtures.

                1. Teror
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  Honestly no idea. I don't really like any of the 6.5 forwards. Keep switching between King, Jota and Wood.

                  1. Twisted Saltergater
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    6 years, 7 months ago

                    Ah ok, thanks for the quick reply.

                    Similar here but I keep coming back to Deulofeu as Watford's most difficult fixture on paper is Everton away in GW2, and he used to play for them.

            4. Netley Lucas
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Nice template, maybe a better 4.5 keeper and assess Deu v Jota.

          • Bucket Man
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Was on this
            Pope/Heaton, 4.0
            TAA, VVD, Laporte, Catchart, Dunk
            Salah, Sterling, Zaha, Stephens, Dendoncker
            Vardy, King, Jota

            Now have concerns over Zaha- rumours over move and not back for pre-season yet
            King- seems not to have played. Wilson a big upgrade
            Jota- fixtures

            A) VVD/Zaha/Stephens/King/Vardy
            B) Robbo/Perez/Wickham/Fraser/Wilson

          • HollywoodXI
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I’m constantly changing my team between these two drafts...which is better? The bench is fodder in both.

            A: 541 - Ederson TAA Robbo Digne Zinchenko AWB Salah Sterling Siggy Perez King

            B: 532 - Lloris TAA Zappacosta Digne Zinchenko AWB Salah Sterling Perez Kane King

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              a

          • The Train Driver
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Don't mind me, just logging in to see how many teams there are with Abraham in them...

            1. HamezMace
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              He'd be in more if he was actually in the game yet.

          • jia you
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I see the King train is still going strong. Has there been any news on why he was left out of the squad?

            1. Netley Lucas
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Nope, read somewhere he was wanting away but probably just gossip.