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Liverpool take on Manchester City in the Community Shield this afternoon and the match could be as big a signpost as any as to how the two sides will line up in Gameweek 1.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) both make their first starts of pre-season for the Reds and are joined by Divock Origi (£5.5m) in the front three.

Sadio Mane (£11.5m) is yet to return following his involvement with Senegal at the Africa Cup of Nations.

Alisson (£6.0m), Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m), Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) and Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) all unsurprisingly feature in the Liverpool backline but Joe Gomez (£5.5m) has been given the nod over Joel Matip (£5.5m) to partner van Dijk at centre-half.

James Milner (£5.5m) is ruled out as a precaution due to a tight muscle.

There are no huge shocks in the Manchester City starting XI, with Aymeric Laporte (£6.5m) missing out through injury as expected.

Sergio Aguero (£12.0m), Gabriel Jesus (£9.5m) and Ederson (£6.0m) are only among the substitutes after their late return from the Copa America.

Raheem Sterling (£12.0m) again leads the line for the Citizens and will be flanked by Leroy Sane (£9.5m) and Bernardo Silva (£8.0m).

Kevin De Bruyne (£9.5m) is part of City’s central midfield three, while Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.5m) starts again at left-back.

Kick-off at Wembley is at 15:00 BST.

 

  1. @FPL_Chess
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Run that by me again... What are the best two Liverpool defenders to have?

      1. Costa in Wengerland
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Robbo and TAA

        1. @FPL_Chess
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Thanks.

      2. :
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I'm considering a midfield of Sterling, Salah, Perez, Moura and Martial. The last two obviously come with risks but if they hit the ground running they could have some good mileage in them. Thoughts?

        1. Manani
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          i think the risk is minimal, as there's plently of alternatives for that price option, all it takes is 1 transfer to fix it up

        2. Over Midwicket
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          It's that old FF cliché of "wait and see". Nobody ever gained anything by being first on a bandwagon.

          1. El Lobito 10
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Apart from the points that led to it

          2. badgerboy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            ?

        3. Royal5
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Could defo work. Seems like OGS is a Martial fan. Started up front last games i think.

        4. Moxon
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Just Moura that is short-term, but he is a good punt if you want some fun

        5. AndyCook
            6 years, 8 months ago

            I fancy that but with Pulisic over Moura

          • It’s gonna Ben Mee
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            So many options in the 6-7.5M bracket it’s maddening. Not a fan of Man Utd and Spurs fixtures however.

          • :
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Thanks chaps.

        6. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          A) Digne, AWB, Zinchenko, and Barkley (442)
          B) Robertson, Coleman, McGinn, and Robinson (352)

          Final decisions.. Which lot would you prefer lads?

          1. DantheManinaPan
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Not a fan of either of I'm honest...

            Assuming you have TAA, A I guess.

        7. CostaCoffee
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Been on Trent since first draft but now I’m starting to consider Robbo for the extra nailedness (even though he’s not as exciting going forward)

          1. El Lobito 10
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Both ftw

            1. CostaCoffee
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              I like Virg

            2. 1zverGGadeM
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              This

          2. SILENTWAR
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            I think Gomez will be more deployed as centre back rather than TAA's backup this season

        8. El Lobito 10
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Murray nailed?

          1. CostaCoffee
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            No

            1. El Lobito 10
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Why not?

              1. CostaCoffee
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Wasn’t nailed last season and is now a year older. He can’t go on forever

                1. El Lobito 10
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  True. Shame

                2. MGMT
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  He wasnt?

                  1. CostaCoffee
                    • 12 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    By the end of the season, no

                    1. Royal5
                      • 14 Years
                      6 years, 8 months ago

                      This. And he must be around 40 as this point?

                      1. AndyCook
                          6 years, 8 months ago

                          35

            2. Cheshire Duck
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Like last season, he won't play every matches, only those where they have a chance to win

              1. rjcv177
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Smart answer

          2. Emiliano Sala
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Any better 4.5 defender with better fixtures than brighton? Think he is best 4.5 option specially plays at RWB

            1. El Lobito 10
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Not heard of Brighton. Dunk good option though

              1. Emiliano Sala
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Dunk plays CB for brighton, montoya right wing back. At least for last 2 pre season games

            2. Costa in Wengerland
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Matt Target

              1. Emiliano Sala
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Aston villa will concede in each game

          3. SADIO SANÉ
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Alli hammy? Moura looks more nailed all of a sudden, Lamela sniffing around

            1. Royal5
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              What's going on with Son?

              1. CostaCoffee
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Suspended

                1. Royal5
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Ahhhh. Totally forgot. Ty

          4. Starky22
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Ryan
            Digne TAA VVD xxx
            Salah KDB Maddison Barkley
            Kane xxx

            A. Ake & Wilson
            B. Laporte & King

            1. 1zverGGadeM
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              B

            2. CostaCoffee
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              B

          5. Baberto
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            RMT

            A
            Ryan Button
            VVD Robbo Coleman Zinch Lund
            Salah Sterling Perez McGinn Dendo
            Kane King Greenwood

            B
            Ryan Pope
            VVD Robbo Coleman Zinch AWB
            Salah Sterling Perez McGinn Dendo
            Kane Greenwood 4.5

            1. SILENTWAR
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              A

            2. Mr Q
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              a

          6. I Member
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Anyone else going without City defence? If Laporte is injured that makes them less appealing still.

            1. Royal5
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Just a knock.

            2. CostaCoffee
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              I’m doubling up

              1. Siggy in the Middle
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                It wasn't that funny

                1. HNI
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Then triple uo

            3. LangerznMash
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              None until GW4

              1. I Member
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                This is my thinking too. Can see them conceding against West Ham, Spurs and Bournemouth. By then it should also be clear who the best option in their defence is.

            4. MGMT
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              5.5 Zinchenko is good value, and gives you versatility to switch to other potential high scoring defenders. (WanB, Coleman, Spurs, etc)

              1. n-doggg
                • 13 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                True, but you are effectively banking a transfer waiting to happen. All good if you are planning to wc early doors obviously

          7. MGMT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Best 4.5 Brighton def?

            1. SILENTWAR
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Dunk

          8. Mr Q
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Heaton

            Robbod-Coleman-walker

            Salah-kdb-pepe-pulisic-Perez

            Wilson-Wood

            Burton, cathcart, 4,0, 4,5

            Too much with 2 unproven players?

            1. Arctic_Orangutans
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              U think Pepe will definitely start ?

            2. AndyCook
                6 years, 8 months ago

                It’s great but Pepe probably isn’t going to start week 1

            3. Hansel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Is Laporte worth the extra million over Stones?

              1. Costa in Wengerland
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                No if Stones is nailed

              2. Pukki Blinders
                • 6 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                All depends on Otamendi's fitness

              3. Arctic_Orangutans
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Yep because of rotation risk and stones is injury prone

              4. Alnair
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Can't see it. Laporte was bought to replace Otamendi as a LCB in the first place. Kompany leaving probably means Stones is now RCB, but this Pep so you never know...

              5. Rocky FPL
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                For nailedness, Yes

            4. MysticMac17
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Thoughts on Gomez as an option now? The Pool defenders of VVD, TAA and Robbo are arguably the best value players in the game. But this is still tempting..

              1. Fitzy.
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                What's tempting about Gomez?

            5. Flippo_
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Could Milivojevic be a big differential player this season? I hope that he still will be the main penalty taker for Palace. Last season he scored around 12 goals, with 10 of them were penalties. Now with the VAR introduced in the upcoming season, would this be profitable for Palace?

              1. noahzark22
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                no data really suggests VAR brings more penalties to domestic leagues. It's equally likely to overturn some penalty calls. Palace is in shambles right now.

                1. rjcv177
                  • 10 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Only added info to this. The big clubs get "dubious" penalties without VAR. If u remove the ones "gifted" to them i can almost guarantee that penalties will increase all around the league. The refs have the tool to check any doubts instead of let the game play on.
                  Other issue are goals from set pieces. Grabbing, pulling, blocking are easy to check now, defenders need to avoid that.

              2. Costa in Wengerland
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Only if Zaha stays

              3. Valar(Keith)
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Milivojevic is one of those players who I won't be able to own this season or buy next season even if he scores 200 points this season from penalties. I just can't do it :)..

              4. specc
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Everyone keeps saying that VAR doesn't change the total number of penalties, but what about their distribution? Do lower ranked teams get more and higher ranked teams get fewer?

              5. el polako
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                VAR means less penalties

                1. rjcv177
                  • 10 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Var means worse defense, refs can check dubious contacts. Less cleansheets.

            6. Pukki Blinders
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Kane + KDB or Vardy + Sterling ??

              1. Azzastaan
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Kane and Sterling is better

                1. Lucky Z
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Genius

                2. Pukki Blinders
                  • 6 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  if only

            7. Link
              • 15 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Double up with Gomez instead of Virg a risky but viable option? Extra cash could be useful

            8. HNI
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Which gw Son can play again? Gw3 or gw4?

              1. Lucky Z
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                III

              2. SILENTWAR
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                GW3

            9. Azzastaan
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Is pope the burnley nailed keeper?

              1. CostaCoffee
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Yes

            10. n-doggg
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              A. Robertson
              B. Taa

              1. Azzastaan
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Robertson

                As taa is more likely for rest as he is still young happened alot last year, he was rested to keep him fresh in champs.league

                1. n-doggg
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  But set pieces add more potential?

                  1. Azzastaan
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    Not if hes not on the park mate

                    1. AndyCook
                        6 years, 8 months ago

                        Benched player comes on though

              2. Lucky Z
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Ryan
                TAA | Robertson| Digne | Ake
                Salah | Sterling | Siggy | Perez
                Wilson | Jota

                Button | Den | Greenwood | Lundstram

                A. Perez Ake => Barkley Zinch
                B. Siggy => B.Silva
                C. Keep

                1. The Big Fella
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Nice team. C for now.

                  1. Lucky Z
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    Cheers

                2. Tambling5
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Siggy seems expensive with Everton’s poor pre-season attacking form, so perhaps b sensible. Rumours that Ake on Man City transfer radar, so caution needed there. If Chelsea not winning then Barkley likely to be subbed for Mount after 60 minutes or so.

                  1. Lucky Z
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    Thanks!

              3. FCSB
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                RMT:

                Heaton Button
                Robertson VVD Digne Walker Lundstram
                Salah Sterling KDB Barkley Dendoncker
                Jota King Greenwood

                Comments appreciated?

                Thanks

                1. Oooof
                  • 10 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Looks very template so you’re good to go!

              4. Azzastaan
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Best 6m or less mid

                1. Rigid Digit
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Townsend (when in form)
                  Barkley (if he becomes a regular)

              5. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Bayern close to signing Sane after agreeing contract terms.
                That solves a headache then, Kev it is.

                1. Valar(Keith)
                  • 16 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Are they planning on distracting pep and getting him to sign it while he is in TAAs pocket while on the pitch today? 🙂

                  1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    Last game wearing a Citeh shirt I reckon.

                2. Pukki Blinders
                  • 6 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  that deal is off now lol

                  1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    link?

              6. Oooof
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Football is back!

              7. noahzark22
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                I've never seen two more casually dressed managers. Pep and Klopp today sporting t-shirts and cargo pants

              8. Scapegoat Salah
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Have a feeling a few more people will have Aguero and maybe Sterling later on today in their teams!

                1. Valar(Keith)
                  • 16 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Have a feeling it'll be stones, bilva and kdb 🙂

                  1. Rigid Digit
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 8 months ago

                    Stones would be welcome at 5.5 - as long as he is nailed (which I think he should be)

              9. specc
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Everyone keeps saying that VAR doesn't change the total number of penalties, but what about their distribution? Do lower ranked teams get more and higher ranked teams get fewer?

              10. n-doggg
                • 13 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Thoughts on this team?

                Heaton, Ryan
                Robertson, Walker, Lundstram, Rico, Adam
                Salah, sterling. Perez, Barkley, dendonca
                Kane, king, Jota

              11. Hart-ake
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 8 months ago

                Heaton or Henderson, and why?

                1. JBG
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 8 months ago

                  Neither, cause both are playing for relegation candidates.