Pre-Season
12 July 2021 205 comments
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The countdown to Fantasy Premier League 2021/22 has begun in earnest, with pre-season training underway and a couple of warm-up matches already contested.

We’ll be documenting every result, every minute played (where line-ups are available), every goal, every assist and much more in our dedicated Pre-Season tab, which will be updated regularly ahead of Gameweek 1.

We will also be bringing you Scout Notes on all the first-team friendlies that take place over the next month, starting with two that played out over the weekend: Dundee v West Ham United and Everton v Accrington Stanley.

DUNDEE 2-2 WEST HAM UNITED

  • Goals: Jamal Baptiste, Jarrod Bowen pen
  • Assists: Jarrod Bowen

VIEW MATCH HIGHLIGHTS HERE

Jarrod Bowen played a part in both West Ham United goals as David Moyes’s side came from 2-0 down to draw their opening pre-season friendly at Dens Park.

Bowen’s 61st-minute corner was turned in by teenage defender Jamal Baptiste before the winger won and converted a penalty soon after to restore parity.

It’s too early to say if Bowen has inherited spot-kick duties with the Hammers, however: Mark Noble and Michail Antonio had both left the field when West Ham won their second-half penalty, while Declan Rice was of course away with England on European Championship duty.

Most of Moyes’s squad were handed only 45 minutes of pitch-time but Bowen lasted well into the second half, saying afterwards:

It was good to be back out there. I think I got 70 minutes in the end, and I felt like I could have gone on and done 90 to be honest.

I was enjoying it out there, which is probably strange to hear for the first pre-season game, but I felt really good and sharp.

It’s always nice to get that first pre-season goal. I had a couple of chances in the first half, so to get that penalty, score the goal and set up Jamal’s one too was good. 

It’s always a personal one to get that first goal and assist as well, so it’s been a good day.

Bowen was the visitors’ main attacking threat throughout, repeatedly driving at the Dundee backline from midfield and seeing a couple of efforts blocked.

Antonio was a little quieter, although spurned a one-on-one chance before being hooked at the interval.

West Ham conceded first to old FPL favourite Charlie Adam from a corner-kick situation before going 2-0 down to a Paul McMullan strike from 20 yards.

West Ham United XI: Trott (Randolph 46), Fredericks (Baptiste 46), Alves, Ogbonna (Dawson 46), Cresswell (Alese 46), Noble (Ekwah 46), Coventry (Diop 71), Bowen (Xande Silva 71), Lanzini (Johnson 46), Holland, Antonio (Odubeko 46).

EVERTON 3-0 ACCRINGTON STANLEY

  • Goals: Tom Cannon, Lewis Gibson, Anthony Gordon
  • Assists: Gylfi Sigurdsson, Jean-Phillipe Gbamin

VIEW MATCH HIGHLIGHTS HERE

Everton don’t contest their first ‘official’ pre-season friendly until July 25 in Florida but Rafael Benitez oversaw his new charges in a training ground warm-up game on Saturday.

The Toffees saw off Accrington Stanley at Finch Farm in a match composed of two 40-minute halves.

Little is known about the line-ups but the club’s official site reported that Benitez handed pitch-time to every available squad member, with a number of players still away on international duty.

Young striker Tom Cannon opened the scoring at the second attempt following an Alex Iwobi pass, with the hosts adding two more goals after the interval.

Centre-half Lewis Gibson converted a Gylfi Sigurdsson free-kick to double the Toffees’ lead before Anthony Gordon raced onto a Jean-Phillipe Gbamin through-ball to round off a 3-0 win.

James Rodriguez was among the other recognisable faces involved, although youth products were heavily involved against the League One outfit.

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  1. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    Bowen essential?

    1. MJF
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Bowen on toast

        1. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          I'm thinking Good Thinking Bachmann this year

          1. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Not bad

      • Flair
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Could actually be decent with West Ham's fixtures but his minutes are really uncertain.

    2. MJF
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Never mind winning the European Championship, I'm ready to bask in the glory of an unexpected assist from a 4.5 defender on a wet November evening.

        1. farmerfat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Lamptey essential

          1. Baps Hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            It wouldn't be unexpected with Lamptey, he had some consecutive assists last autumn. Dallas or Fofana good do job!

            1. Baps Hunter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              The job... Annoying that editing simple typos isn't possible. Yet, if it was after answers, discussions might become strange sometimes.

      • DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Where was Kane last night?

        1. farmerfat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Playing CM again and creating space for Sterling.

      • farmerfat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        I remember when Anthony Gordon was the essential 4.5 pick during pre-season last season.
        Good to be back.

        1. Stokelona
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Haha and Ruben Vinagre

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Anything at all wrong with this team ?

        PacMan
        Cancello shaw taa
        Raph Bruno salah buendia
        Watkins Toney nachos

        Foster lamp ayling biss

        1. Drexl Spivey
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Nope.

          1. Steve The Spud
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Time to tinker with it then

            1. Drexl Spivey
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Inevitable.

        2. ☈☾
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Amazing team

        3. el polako
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Who's PacMan ?

          Nothing wrong with the team but we both know it will change another 30+ times before season starts 😉

          1. Steve The Spud
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Bachman, I’ve named him Pac-Man because of all the bonus he’s going to swallow up

      • el polako
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Any new Lundstram\Dallas type of player on the horizon ?

        1. ☈☾
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          No

          1. el polako
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            We need to find one, these are the players that really make them game fun (when spotted early enough).

            1. Qaiss
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              I think they make it less fun. The less essential players, the more variety there is, which is better.

        2. Botman and Robben
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Towers will not classify a promoted midfielder as a budget defender 3 times in a row. So no.

          1. MJF
              4 years, 10 months ago

              To be fair to them, Dallas was expected to be a full back by most people.

              1. Rhinos
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                he WAS a full back . Only moved to midfield to cover injuries and only stayed there coz Alioski performed better tham expected at lwb

                1. Moderately content penguin
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Do you expect him to revert there this time around?

                  1. MJF
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      They've signed a new left back haven't they?

                      I will defer to Rhinos though as he's a Leeds supporter!

                    • Rhinos
                      • 12 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      he may start at lwb whilst Firpo gets up to speed but long term Dallas will be a midfielder coz he's been great there

                      1. Moderately content penguin
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Interesting. Ty.

                        The Firpo signing is what had me thinking.

          2. Stokelona
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Thoughts on this first draft?

            Bachman
            Shaw Digne TAA
            Salah Bruno Sarr Barnes Pepe
            Watkins Toney

            Foster Lamptey Fofana Davis £0.5m itb

            1. MJF
                4 years, 10 months ago

                In the words of Orange Juice, "rip it up and start again".

            2. Emiliano Sala
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Antonio or DCL?

              1. jayzico
                • 15 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                My conundrum also. Plus reading/watching this dude Toney for ahem Brentford. Looks like the real deal.

                It's just DCL's first load of games look great.

                Really need somebody to sway me away from him.

                1. Baps Hunter
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  DCL is going to be either okay or good option for those 8 plum fixtures. After that it might be time to WC him out. Overthinking too early is a sin that won't go unpunished.

              2. Nomar
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Both good picks.

                DCL gives you leverage to move for Bamford or Ings but Antonio can do some serious damage before he, inevitably, gets injured.

                I have neither, though, as going with Bamford.

            3. diesel001
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Going to miss all the PL matches not being on TV. Was good while it lasted. Maybe it will return again one day under much better circumstances.

              1. Warby84
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Prefer it the way it use to be…

              2. farmerfat
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Been stuck with this team for a while, seems pretty Template/safe. Not had any ideas to make any changes. Thoughts?
                Sanchez
                TAA Digne Shaw
                Salah Bruno Raph Buendia
                Watkins Nacho Antonio
                Foster White Bissouma Williams.

                1. farmerfat
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Fail, this was supposed to be a post :p

                2. Moderately content penguin
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Issue for me is the flexibility in structure.

                  If Son or Sancho for instance fires then you're left all those midrange players who don't easily switch up - I'm not seeing how you'd move funds around beyond switching into variants at the same pricing level.

                  May not concern you of course but this time I'm determined to hold off the really early WC and having a long term value side - such as this is really - is what would do it most for me. Too many "safe" players for my liking.

                  Son is my "rogue" pick right now. Looks to me as the most undervalued player in the game possibly given he tracked all the 12.0/12.5 types last season,

                  1. Christina.
                    • 16 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    surely and player is just a -4(at most) away?

                    1. Christina.
                      • 16 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      *any

                    2. Moderately content penguin
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Actually quite hard to do on this structure - unless you downgrade a premium.

                      Losing TAA would be the mostly likely route perhaps. 2.5 mll or so needs to be found while downgrading someone at 7.5 to a playing sub anyway. Another route would be lose a 5.5 to 4.5 at the back and a 7.5 to a 6.5/6.0 up top and then make a midfield switch perhaps Quite a faff.

                      Lots are on it I know but it's a fairly tricky structure to move funds around when you have so many at the same price point. Big question for me is whether Son/Sancho (assuming similar price point is worth it.

                      1. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Ofc, but thats my point - you just sell someone, like say TAA. With every team its possible to find a weak link.

                        Like this one:

                        4.5m
                        5.5m 5m 7.5m
                        Salah Bruno 6m Son
                        6m 6.5m 7.5m

                        4m 4.5m 4.5m 4m

                  2. farmerfat
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    This is one concern to keep in mind, my only issue is I am not a fan of the 5,5-6.5 forward options. Could downgrade a forward to a 4,5-6,5 and get in a better mid, Just find there is so much value in that 7.5 bracket. I could easily switch one of the forwards to a 4,5 and save 3m to upgrade a mid if necessary .

                    1. Moderately content penguin
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      I guess a lot of it comes down to where you are starting from.

                      There is on the face of it great value in the 7.5 bracket of course. But self-knowledge tells me there is no way I'm going to hold 3 there for any great length of time and in that case long term value becomes a bit moot. Also I'm wary of the options of making moves there. My experience last season was that moves among those players almost inevitably backfired so despite all the options it's not an area that I really intend to over transfer in this time around - they're still the same players.

                      You're right the 6.5 and under forward category is tricky but right now I'm just treating it as my makeweight spot and trusting that someone will emerge there to move onto.

                  3. Nomar
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    You can’t have them all, though.

                    Have Son, you have to lose one of Bruno or Salah. So you gain Son’s points, but lose Bruno’s, who may outscore Son.

                    Sometimes I think people on here forget that there’s a limited budget so you can’t just stack your team full of premiums.

                    1. Moderately content penguin
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Actually my structure gives me Bruno Mo and Son.

                      I'm more stripped down in defence with just TAA and a 5.0 but early on I'm happy to go that way. The other compromise is that I have a 7.5 and 6.5 frontline potentially - though I can easily make that 7.5 7.5 if needed.

                3. The Son-dance Kid
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Here's an idea - wait 3 weeks then look at your team. Any advice you receive now will be obsolete next week

              3. MJF
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  I don't see any reason why 3pm kick offs can't be televised. I don't think fans of lower league clubs would stop going to see their sides play on the basis of Wolves v Everton being broadcast at 3pm. I certainly wouldn't think twice about going to a Carlisle in game in case I missed some PL sh!te on TV.

              4. Flair
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Give us Sancho's price already, come on!

                1. farmerfat
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  The deal has to be finalized first I would imagine.

              5. Kai
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                When will IT comes home?

                1. MJF
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    Every 26 years, according to the 1986 novel by Stephen King.

                    1. Kai
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Is that an England comet? lol

                2. ☈☾
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Please bring it home

                3. ☈☾
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Shaw at 40% ownership now

                  1. Holmes
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    we might get him at 5.4 if he is not ready for GW1 😀

                  2. Emiliano Sala
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    Was 38 last night

                4. Legohair
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  First draft,thoughts?

                  Sanchez
                  TAA-Tierney-Fofana
                  Salah-Bruno-Pepe-Buendia-Raphinha
                  Watkins-DCL

                  Foster,White,Lamptey,Perica

                  1. linkafu
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    It's a wait and see for Buendia imo

                5. Emiliano Sala
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Almost template. Any tips?

                  Sanchez
                  TAA VVD Lamptey
                  Salah Fernandez Raphinha Buendia
                  Bamford Watkins Antonio

                  4.0 gilmour 4.0 4.0

                  1. Christina.
                    • 16 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    Where is Son?

                    1. Emiliano Sala
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Maybe after 6th game?

                      1. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        The player I will want sooner rather than later: Taa, Son, Ollie, Mo, Bruno, Nacho. I can just as well start with them. Not sure how to fit Emi though... Will have to make 1m on an early WC.

                        1. ☈☾
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          I thought you were not starting with TAA ha!

                          1. Emiliano Sala
                            • 9 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Ffs effect

                          2. Christina.
                            • 16 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Still a long time to go. Looking at alternatives all the time. vvd vs Taa is a tough one for me.

                        2. Emiliano Sala
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          You change your mind rapidly. Yesterday you didn’t want taa at all and it was all about vvd.
                          You want martinez at 5.5?

                          1. Christina.
                            • 16 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Me change my mind? jeez....no one changes his team more than you! 😆
                            Vvd over Taa gives me Emi over a 4.5m keeper.

                            1. Emiliano Sala
                              • 9 Years
                              4 years, 10 months ago

                              I change my team yes. But you defend your thoughts sooo heavily 😀
                              I can switch vvd to shaw and upgrade sanchez to martinez. Not sure it worth it

                    2. farmerfat
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Is Spurs not a wait and see? Ali could be great at 6.5 if he gets a shout .

                6. Zimo
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Everyone is sleeping on Wilson

                  1. Holmes
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    He might be sleeping on treatment table...

                    1. Milk, 1 Šuker
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Haha

                  2. Baines on Toast...
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    He's pretty fixed in my team, great option. Very few players tick the box of decent fixtures/price, goal involvement + penalties, and decent chance volume.

                    1. Christina.
                      • 16 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      you reckon he stays fit? He reminds me of Ings. Potent, but leg could fall off at any given time.

                      1. Baines on Toast...
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 15 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        No idea, but I don't see that as a reason not to own him when he is fit. I know people like Watkins as a 'set and forget' but Wilson could easily come out of the blocks much more quickly.

                  3. Moderately content penguin
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    I've had him in and out of my team but find it hard to justify him over Watkins beyond the fact that Newcastle look more settled than Villa. WH and Antonio also have the fixtures at the same price point.

                    Could go for the "have them all" policy of course but with a fairly early WC in mind - likely around IB - then not sure that selecting multiple players who are essentially long term value types adds up.

                7. Christina.
                  • 16 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Krul only 11 saves less than Emi in 180 mins less played(last time in PL)

                  1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    And only 76 points less!

                8. ☈☾
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  RMT

                  Bachmann Foster
                  TAA Shaw Digne Tierney
                  Mane Raphinha Mahrez
                  Wilson Antonio Kane

                  1. Christina.
                    • 16 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    eeeughhhh...
                    *vomits

                    1. ☈☾
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Ok fine draft 2

                      Guaita Dubravka
                      VVD Dias Chilwell Doherty
                      Son Grealish Raphinha
                      Auba Kane Jiminez

                      1. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        *eats vomit

                      2. Baps Hunter
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        😉 U serious?!?

                      3. Baps Hunter
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Dubravka / 4.0
                        Alonso, Azpi, Chilwell, Doherty, Reguilon
                        Sancho, Rashford, Sigurdsson, Hames, Bissouma
                        Kane, Vardy, Pukki

                        Feel free to copy, no charge 😉

                  2. farmerfat
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    If Salah/Bruno do well in the first few game weeks you will have a lot of early catching up to do .

                    1. ☈☾
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      And if my players do well I will be in top 100

                      1. Baps Hunter
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        ...and cows have learned to fly 🙂

                9. The Mandalorian
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  So many anti English comments made on here last night was really disgusting.

                  Apparently if a few England fans boo other nations anthems then all English people are the same and classed as bad people. Is this not blatantly racist to call an entire nation bad based on the actions of a few people. Its a racial stereotype and I thought society was calling out this behaviour and learning from it.

                  Its a shame that some people used last night as an opportunity to post hate in this community rather than congratulate your fellow fellow FPL managers.

                  Posting hate about other nations is not acceptable.

                  1. Drexl Spivey
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    Well apparently we're all responsible for a number of historical injustices that occurred decades before we were born, that some still take quite personally (bizzarely). As such, we're all subject to being called knackers when our team does well in a footy tournament.

                    Personally I'm quite fond of the Tudors, and think beheadings would have proved an entertaining spectacle.

                  2. RichardNixon
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    There's a fine line between banter and abuse at international level.

                    I can't speak for others but I didn't watch the game in case England won. Thoroughly enjoyed the extended highlights after knowing the result though.

                    Best regards,

                    Australia

                    (PS: The whole 'its coming home' reeks of entitlement and arrogance which doesn't do your lot any favours. Nor does your media)

                    1. Moderately content penguin
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      It's coming home is a strange one

                      Born of a song that is 100% non-entitled - pretty much the reverse in fact - being an acknowledgement that ultimate failure is pretty much inevitable. As such it mirrors the attitude of the vast majority of England fans.

                      The shorthand non-song version has become of course a rod to beat the English simply because it's such an easy shorthand handle to latch onto. But there again tricky when people want to see arrogance and entitlement.

                      We're on the march with Ally's Army
                      We're going to the Argentine
                      And we'll really shake them up
                      When we win the World Cup
                      'Cause Scotland are the greatest football team
                      I've heard it said that Beckenbauer's the best that's ever been
                      Some people think that Pele is the greatest that they've seen
                      There's Bobby Moore and Charlton, England's famous two
                      But Ally's tartan army love the boys in Scotland's blue
                      We're on the march with Ally's Army
                      We're going to the Argentine
                      And we'll really shake them up
                      When we win the World Cup
                      'Cause Scotland are the greatest football team
                      When it comes to managers, we surely got the champ
                      When Docherty and Ormond left to join some other camp
                      We had to get a man who could make all Scotland proud
                      He's our Muhammad Ali; he's Alistair MacLeod
                      We're on the march with Ally's Army
                      We're going to the Argentine
                      And we'll really shake them up
                      When we win the World Cup
                      'Cause Scotland are the greatest football team
                      When we reach the Argentine we're really gonna show
                      The world a brand of football that they could never know
                      We're representing Britain; we've got to do or die
                      For England cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify
                      We're on the march with Ally's Army
                      We're going to the Argentine
                      And we'll really shake them up
                      When we win the World Cup
                      'Cause Scotland are the greatest football team
                      We're on the march with Ally's Army
                      We're going to the Argentine
                      And we'll really shake them up
                      When we win the World Cup
                      'Cause Scotland are the greatest football team
                      Yes, Scotland are the greatest football team

                    2. MJF
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        The issue with Three Lions is the original song was very self-deprecating and if you listen to the verses its all about how bad we've been since 1966. I've always taken the coming "home" line to be a reference to Euro '96 and the tournament being held here, rather than us thinking we've an entitlement to win a trophy.

                        That's not to say that those who sing it don't think we own football, there'll be a sub-section who believe that.

                        1. Moderately content penguin
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          I suspect we shouldn't be responding to someone who is so clearly trolling.

                          What amuses me most about the 3 Lions song is how it was appropriated by the Germans post 1996. It's a good tune of course but at one level there is something hilariously inappropriate about that when you take the song as a whole.

                          At another level it rather points out that the theme of the song is more universal and scarcely an English disease if you take it at its simplest and ignore the text and just use the chorus.

                      • The Mandalorian
                        • 13 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        The words"its coming home" is from a song all about England's failure as a football team. Please explain how a song about failure can be called entitled and arrogant.

                        "I didn't watch the game in case England won."

                        Such racial prejudice right there. No need to explain we know who you are.

                        1. RichardNixon
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Please, don't make me laugh. Enjoying England lose at sport is not racism. Get a grip.

                          I would argue that what the song originally was and what it has been adopted to represent are two different things.

                      • Riverside Red
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 6 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        With the uniformed views you hold it's probably best you stay in Australia

                      • Rosey Palmer
                        • 12 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Agreed about the "It's Coming Home" chant...embarrassing considering the actual history of the national team of England.

                    3. MJF
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        It'd be nice if more people were more nuanced in their posts. Unfortunately, the Internet rewards those who shout the loudest and get in first with the biggest reaction and people seem to find that addictive.

                    4. jayzico
                      • 15 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Seeing less and less teams with DCL. Why?

                      And what on earth was Southgate sticking Saka (who hadn't even touched the ball) on for last penalty. Lol. Nice tactics mate.

                      Also, not starting Grealish. AGAIN. Deserves to go to Rome

                      1. Holmes
                        • 12 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Fixtures not looking great from attacking perspective. (atleast to me)

                        For others, it could be his price. (0.5m difference)

                      2. Emiliano Sala
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        I think fixtures are not that great.
                        No richarlison at the start because of olympics
                        No Ancelotti
                        And I don’t like DCL personally. Only scores sitters

                      3. jayzico
                        • 15 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Awesome guys. And congrats to the Argies. DCL > Antonio it is

                        1. Nomar
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Why are you letting others dictate who you pick?

                          Who cares if poster X thinks DCL is a bad choice? If you like him and think he's going to do well in those early fixtures the pick and stick with it.

                          1. jayzico
                            • 15 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            This forum is for advice Nomar.I've known you as a poster for much of the last decade. You never ask for a second opinion?

                    5. blauriecon
                      • 15 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Gutted by yesterday. After time for reflection, Southgate, primarily, and the senior players did not protect the future of England football. It remains to be seen how the psyche of the young players will react. Will their misses haunt them or motivate them going forward? Southgate should have gone with the senior players to begin with. If they miss their penalties, they have more experience to survive the miss and shorter impact on the national team psyche (closer to national team retirement). The senior players should have overruled Southgate although that creates additional pressure on their penalty attempt. In the end Southgate failed at the end - again.

                      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        I'ts just a lost game. People move on.

                      2. No Professionals
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        This is a strange, over simplified take on things. Jorginho, penalty taker extraordinaire missed for Italy. Was it a bad decision to let him take one?

                    6. Athletic Nasherbo
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Thoughts?

                      Sanchez
                      Chilwell Castagne Lamptey
                      Salah(C) Sterling Mahrez Havertz
                      Wilson Toney Pukki

                      Bachmann Fofana Doherty Gilmour

                      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Sexy but too risky

                        1. Athletic Nasherbo
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          It is a little. I’d be shocked if Havertz and Mahrez don’t start however. Sterling I think is worth the risk given his previous prem record and low ownership.

                          1. Athletic Nasherbo
                            • 9 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Chilwell will play of course and so will Castagne (I’m sure he’s recovered from his eye injury)

                    7. No Professionals
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Moved to a 3-5-2 and quite like it.

                      Sanchez
                      TAA Shaw Fofana
                      Salah Bruno Son Raphinha Sarr
                      Watkins Toney

                      Foster Lamptey Williams Obafemi

                      Would prefer a second 7.5m striker, but hard to do without dropping Trent or Son...

                      1. Holmes
                        • 12 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        would you upgrade Toney to 7.5 if you have cash?

                        1. No Professionals
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Yes i'd prefer an iheanacho or antonio over him. Not interested in dropping TAA down at present. So that leaves Son down to someone like Mahrez...

                          1. Holmes
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Sarr to Gilmour, Toney to 7.5?

                            Use extra cash for 5th defender and play 4 at back.

                            1. Holmes
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 10 months ago

                              Team gets weaker though

                              1. No Professionals
                                • 8 Years
                                4 years, 10 months ago

                                Yeah. My safe team is

                                Sanchez
                                TAA Shaw Fofana
                                Salah Bruno Jota/Gundogan Raphinha
                                Watkins Antonio Iheanacho

                                Foster Lamptey Bissouma Williams

                          2. Moderately content penguin
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            The other potential saving is to move Shaw to a 5.0. Don't see he's as necessary as the ownership implies - having held him at 5.0 for large chunks of last season!

                            Sarr to Cantwell could get you this I think

                            TAA 5.0 4.5 4,5
                            Mo Bruno Son Raph Cantwell
                            7.5 7.5

                            Gilmour is good fodder but Cantwell has returns in him. Liverpool Norwich. Not seeing any clean sheets in that one personally.

                      2. Moderately content penguin
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        On something very similar - only major difference Barnes over Sarr and no Shaw to give me even more in midfield. Happy to be quite stripped back in defence early on.

                        It does feel slightly perverse to go so light up top with all that notional value there but provided Son is a good pick this has more oomph to me and doesn't look like a dead team selection based on last season's value.

                    8. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                      • 9 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Sanchez
                      Trent Digne Cresswell Shaw
                      Salah Son Mahrez Raphinha
                      Bamford Watkins

                      4 Lamptey Tells 4.5

                      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        *Tella

                      2. Baps Hunter
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        I prefer Bruno + Buendia/Raphinha over Son + Mahrez. Yet if Kane goes to Manchester I am not going to start this season without him.

                      3. Holmes
                        • 12 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Show off 😉

                      4. Athletic Nasherbo
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Bamford a tad too expensive for me.

                    9. Christina.
                      • 16 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Emi
                      Taa 4.5m 4.5m
                      Mo Bruno Son 6.5m
                      Toney Pukki Nacho

                      4m 4.5m 4.5m 4m

                      I like it.

                      1. Emiliano Sala
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Emi worth 5.5 you think?
                        Christina would you give me your email?

                        1. Christina.
                          • 16 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Sorry, not passing out my email on here.

                          1. Emiliano Sala
                            • 9 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Ok

                      2. Baps Hunter
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        No you don't tbh 😉 I will perhaps by Pukki when he is 6.2 or 6.3 and both he and Norwich have found form and have fixtures good enough.

                        1. Christina.
                          • 16 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          last time he scored 6 goals & 2 assists in first 5 games...with goals vs Liverpool, City and Chelsea...assists vs City and Chelsea....

                          1. Baps Hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            How many of those did Buendia assist?

                            1. Moderately content penguin
                              • 7 Years
                              4 years, 10 months ago

                              How many did Cantwell 😉

                        2. Baps Hunter
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Well... 😉 What's wrong with Mo, Bruno and TAA?!? Why are they in this team? Camouflage?

                        3. Holmes
                          • 12 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Why pay extra 0.3 for Pukki:P

                          1. Baps Hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Ouch, I rembered he was 6.0... Okay, I will consider him when he is 5.7 or 5.8 🙂 And yes, I transferred him in for his hattie last season 🙂

                        4. Athletic Nasherbo
                          • 9 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Think people are forgetting Pukki is only 6.0m. Buendia is a miss but in the prem he was naff.

                          1. Baps Hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            I guess I have to admit that you called this one correct.

                      3. FFSbet.com
                        • 10 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Bruno downgrade and Pukii + 4.5M defenders upgrade?

                        Salah is you (C) anyway,GW3 is Son

                      4. Emiliano Sala
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Amd for your team, not a fan of pukki and nacho

                      5. King Kohli
                        • 13 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        I have similar but 4.5 gk, 6m mid and 7.5m striker instead of Pukki

                      6. Athletic Nasherbo
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Surprised at no city at all. Good team if you can nail the 4.5m defenders. Any players in particular in mind?

                    10. FFSbet.com
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      I am no expert but 2 shots vs Croatia and 2 shots vs Italy in 120min?

                      Want to see them play like Liverpool with VVD with high defensive line.

                      End up with 20+ shots every game,dont remember team with this firepower upfront.
                      Midfield is very strong too can cover easy any mistakes.

                      In 65min you can sub in Sancho,Rashford,Grealish,Saka???

                      Why play with 5 defenders and 2 DMFs...

                      1. Athletic Nasherbo
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        Yeah we were miles on top first half because we pressed high. Kane arguably our best player with Rice first half ended up sitting in your half and doesn’t half the legs to get up and down. Italy didn’t even come out second half well at all, only with the changes come 53/4 minutes did things change.

                      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        4 years, 10 months ago

                        They have to play two babysitters in front of Maguire (and ideally one either side of him) to prevent him getting exploited

                        It’s the same at Man Utd - when they play very defensively & cautiously Maguire is less of a problem - 5 cleansheets in 6 games this season vs. Man City (twice) Chelsea (twice) and Liverpool

                        But as soon as he doesn’t have minders playing negatively in front of him, and the team starts to become more forward thinking, the goals start to leak (7 cleansheets in the other 32 league games against non top-4 teams)

                        Throw in the constant accidents waiting to happen in Pickford and Stones and England would be conceding goals to beat the band if they tried to play positive attacking football imo

                        1. Moderately content penguin
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Fair analysis

                          The one major distinction I see with the United comparison is Walker. He's capable of a mistake himself of course but even at RB he essentially acts as a sweeper for Maguire - certainly in the Denmark game he was doing that role - a safety net player.

                        2. MJF
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            I disagree.

                            I think Southgate was cautious because he thinks that clean sheets win tournaments, and he was almost proven right after we made it all the way to the end of the final only conceding twice, both times from set pieces.

                            Pickford, Stones and Maguire performed almost flawlessly during this tournament. Pickford might've even won players of the tournament if England had ended up winning.

                            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                              • 16 Years
                              4 years, 10 months ago

                              In hindsight I think Southgate was actually low-key playing 4D chess with his negativity

                              He probably knows better than most the limitations of Maguire, Pickford and Stones, and basically plays a team of 3 attackers & 8 defenders to ensure those guys in particular have the minimal possible chance of getting exposed

                              England in an attacking setup would be just lambs to the slaughter for tier 1 international teams, it would be a no contest

                              1. MJF
                                  4 years, 10 months ago

                                  And yet Stones did brilliantly whenever he was one on one showing players outside and allowing only a narrow angle for a shot. Pickford made absolutely class saves all tournament.

                          • Baps Hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Okay, but three lions were still twice as good as the lonely lion team which managed to make only one shot in every match.

                        3. linkafu
                          • 6 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Best front three to start the season?

                          Mine: Wilson Cavani Watkins

                          1. AuFeld
                            • 9 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Currently: Wilson, Kane, Watkins

                            1. linkafu
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 10 months ago

                              Kane always a good idea but I prefer to start with premium midfielders.

                              1. AuFeld
                                • 9 Years
                                4 years, 10 months ago

                                I squeezed in Bruno and Salah in the midfield + Raph (w/ an eye on Willock).

                          2. Baps Hunter
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            I am still planning atm to have DCL over Cavani. Don't know whether I will want Cavani or Sancho (if either).

                            1. linkafu
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 10 months ago

                              I want to see how Benitez will play this everton before to go there.
                              And I expect Man U to score more goals than Everton.

                          3. Nomar
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 16 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            If money no option, Kane, Watkins and Bamford.

                          4. Dogs Of War
                            • 4 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            DCL, Toney, Pukki

                          5. Bobby Digital
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Watkins Toney Pukki

                          6. MR Penquin
                            • 14 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Bamford Watkins DCL

                            I would like to play Cavani but how much will he play ?

                          7. GreennRed
                            • 14 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Jimenez, Bamford, Antonio.

                        4. Earn your Spurs
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Best midfielder for £6.5m or below? Already have Harrison

                          Thanks 🙂

                          1. Botman and Robben
                            • 9 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Could be Sarr in the beginning. Watch friendlies.

                          2. Holmes
                            • 12 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Prefer Buendia for GW1-5

                            Gross/Trossard might also work.

                          3. lilmessipran
                            • 13 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Raph ( double) or Buendia

                          4. Dogs Of War
                            • 4 Years
                            4 years, 10 months ago

                            Buendia could be a bargain. I don’t see Soucek mentioned much. 10 goals last season and only 6.0m.

                        5. MR Penquin
                          • 14 Years
                          4 years, 10 months ago

                          Double Leeds , Liverpool , Aston villa and Brighton