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31 July 2021 482 comments
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We’ve two more pre-season friendlies to report on from Thursday and Friday, as Liverpool and Newcastle United continued their preparations for the upcoming new season.

Leeds United also had a scheduled fixture but a ‘B’ team was sent to Fleetwood Town, so we’ve omitted that match for the Whites from this round-up.

Don’t forget to check out our comprehensive pre-season page for more information on the warm-up matches taking place ahead of Gameweek 1.

BURTON ALBION 0-2 NEWCASTLE UNITED

  • Goals: Jacob Murphy (£5.0m), Joelinton (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Isaac Hayden (£4.5m), Ryan Fraser (£5.5m)

Newcastle United’s first-choice front two were both absent at the Pirelli Stadium but there doesn’t seem to be much concern about either player from the Magpies’ camp.

Callum Wilson (£7.5m) wasn’t risked on Friday night due to a “slight knock”, while Allan Saint-Maximin (£6.5m) has not trained in several days due to illness and sat out his second successive warm-up game. 

With Martin Dubravka (£4.5m) injured and Karl Darlow (£4.5m) still recovering at home after testing positive for COVID-19 earlier this month, it was again Mark Gillespie (£4.0m) and unpriced Freddie Woodman who shared duties between the posts.

The unavailability of Wilson and Saint-Maximin saw Ryan Fraser (£5.5m) given an ‘out of position’ run-out alongside Joelinton (£6.0m) up top and both frontmen were among the attacking returns.

The much-maligned Brazilian ‘assisted the assister’ for Newcastle’s first goal, with Isaac Hayden‘s (£4.5m) fluffed effort falling kindly for the excellent Jacob Murphy (£5.0m) to volley home.

Joelinton then got onto the end of Fraser’s 47th-minute corner, having earlier been teed up by the diminutive winger for a shot that was cleared off the line.

Still in the 3-5-2/5-3-2 that Steve Bruce ended last season with, Newcastle’s formation is looking fairly settled going into the new campaign, with perhaps just one or two judgement calls on personnel to make.

The in-form Murphy – who almost scored a solo second goal – looks to have again secured the right wing-back slot with no sign of budget asset Javier Manquillo (£4.0m) in pre-season, although FPL’s irksome classification of him as a midfielder obviously puts a big dent in his appeal.

Newcastle United XI: Woodman (Gillespie 46), Murphy (Allen 83), Schar (Lascelles 63), Krafth (Clark 63), Fernandez (Watts 79), Ritchie (M. Longstaff 76), Hayden (Young 83), S. Longstaff (Lewis 63), Hendrick, Joelinton (Gayle 55), Fraser (White 55).

HERTHA BERLIN 4-3 LIVERPOOL

  • Goals: Sadio Mane (£12.0m), Takumi Minamino (£5.5m), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Mohamed Salah (£12.5m)

While many attacking players from Manchester United and Manchester City are only just returning to training now following belated summer breaks, Liverpool’s key Fantasy assets have been up and running for a while.

Thursday’s defeat to Hertha was the third pre-season outing for Sadio Mane (£12.0m), Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m), each of whom are looking increasingly sharp ahead of Gameweek 1.

Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) and Diogo Jota (£7.5m) were also back involved against the Bundesliga side after a post-EURO 2020 breather but the headlines belonged to Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) and Joe Gomez (£5.0m), who both returned to playing action after lengthy periods on the sidelines.

Neither player covered themselves in glory with their roles for Stevan Jovetic’s second and Hertha’s fourth goal of the evening but the 22-minute run-outs were less about the result and all about getting the central defensive pair back on the grass again ahead of Gameweek 1.

Jurgen Klopp said of van Dijk and Gomez afterwards:

[They] started immediately well and usually we all know that the fourth goal is a clear situation which saw and defend well. But that’s it. I’m not sure, 260-something days for Virg and not much less for Joe they didn’t play football, so it’s nice to have them back. It was the first step, really important. 

Nearly all are back, then during [the upcoming trip to] Evian they will pretty much all be back I think. That’s good and then we can really start preparing, involve them all, get used to each other again and all this kind of stuff. Then we have a tricky start away at Norwich, that’s how it is. 

The Reds fell 2-0 down before Mane bundled home at the second attempt to halve the deficit and Salah beautifully teed up Takumi Minamino (£5.5m) with a superb backheel to restore parity.

Hertha restored their two-goal advantage before Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.0m), again playing as the spearhead of the Liverpool front three in the absence of the holidaying Roberto Firmino (£9.0m), grabbed a late consolation.

The Reds ought to be in tip-top condition by the time their opening weekend clash with Norwich City comes around as they still have another four pre-season friendlies to contest.

Liverpool XI: Kelleher (Adrián 46), Alexander-Arnold (N. Williams 60), Konaté (R. Williams 46, Gomez 68), Matip (Phillips 46, van Dijk 68), Tsimikas (Robertson 46), Elliott (Jones 46), Keïta (Morton 60), Milner (Clarkson 60), Salah (Gordon 60), Minamino (Oxlade-Chamberlain 46), Mané (Jota 60).

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  1. Milk, 1 Šuker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    What price Conor Gallagher? Will he be a first team regular?

    1. BENOIT
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Yellow card magnet

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      5.5

    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      5.5

      Palace should be an avoid early on at almost any price point imo bar these half possible exceptions and all are WC choices really.

      Zaha will have great GI and could well be on pens full time just almost impossible to pick him over the 6.5s with fixtures. Was certainly value last time when fit and not very wide

      Tekkers - as good as any 6.5 if he hits the same form as the back end of last season. That sentence contains an if and no Eze is going to detract hugely - it was his move to a more central position that coincided with Tekkers exploding.

      McArthur has a shot at being a 4.5 mid but is likely to lose out to Gallagher. Best returning record of the 4.5s on show.

      Guaita could get much better save percentages this time given Palace will be playing a completely different defensive system with fewer shots in the box possible. But again the new defensive system will take time to bed in and fixtures are foul. A WC call around week 7 quite possible

      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Thanks Ping. Was just thinking price first then fixtures second with Gallagher.

  2. BENOIT
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Mahrez worth the extra 1.5m over Jota?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I think so - should start the first few for City with his pre-season relative to others

  3. Miguel Sanchez
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Meslier or Henderson?

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Prefer Meslier

      1. BENOIT
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Hendo. Prefer one of the Leeds 4.5 defenders

        1. Danstoke82
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          How nailed is Hendo? Potentially great value at 5.0

    2. Carlton P
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Hendo + Ayling

    3. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Meslier and Shaw.

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Meslier + Shaw over Hendo + Ayling, since Shaw is much better prospect. But MU defensive double up will probably get most points, even though it might be bumpy ride.

  4. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Sanchez
    Rudiger Digne Lowton
    Salah Mane Son Buendia
    Wilson Watkins Toney

    Begovic Coufal Gilmour 4.0

    I like it. A lot. City the issue. Mahrez instead of Son first 2 hmmm…

    1. Danstoke82
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Very good but feel you need one of Trent/Robbo in there. Just my opinion though and appreciate they’re both pricey

      1. Athletic Nasherbo
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Yeah I appreciate that. Fixtures are the main draw, I don’t think any are worth 7.5/7.0. I’d love to write a little article about it haha. Liverpool aren’t what they were when Trent and Robbo were priced 7.5/7.0, in fact imo nowhere near. The next closest is VVd for 6.5!! And then all others are 6.0 and below! Liverpool pricing is madness especially without the workhorse Wijnaldum, an unfit Henderson, a late returning Fabinho, a year injured and slow returning VVd and a new cb to the league in Konate.

        1. Athletic Nasherbo
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Next closest defenders in the game**

        2. Danstoke82
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Superb write up that. Agree. I was on both but having two defenders so highly priced plus Salah and Bruno really affected my team. I’ll keep Trent for now

  5. WHUFCSmith23
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Is a Brunoless team seeming like the better choice at this stage?

    The 6 to 7 midfield bracket is pretty dry on picks for the start of the season. Son and Mahrez or Cavani as a pairing is surely better than say Bruno and Raphinha/Buendia.

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Pretty sure its not better than Bruno and Buendia, could be better than Bruno and Smith Rowe/Sarr.

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        but not much in it, very little difference in both options

  6. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Hello people. Haven't been here much. Does it look ok:

    Banchmann Foster
    TAA Shaw White Taylor Veltman
    Salah Bruno Mahrez Raph ESR
    Nacho Watkins Davis

    Thanks a lot!

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      looks ok for first draft 😉

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        How have you been sir? Look ok doesn't sound too encouraging. Any changes recommended?

        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          All good, ready with 6 fantasy teams in different format this time 😉

          You didint play Euro I guess? Always good to take a break.

          Having Smith Rowe and White for GW2 and 3 reduces your options for starting XI. Taylor good for GW1, but not much after that.

          1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 7 days ago

            Didn't play Euros. Took a break. Yes, two Arsenal does not look right. Will stick with ESR and replace White. Taylor too. Thanks a lot.

            6 fantasy teams!!! All the best to you sir.

  7. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    For 2/3 of last season Bruno was essential. He fell away and was poor at Euros. In or out?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Still on pens, set pieces, nailed, 90 mins every game, hogs the ball/selfish, bonus monster, plays for United, amazing fixtures etc.etc. Can always downgrade to anyone in the game if he flops.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Prefer Son + 2m

  8. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Hey folks, long time no post...

    I'm curious about Palace, particularly Olise. Not for FPL, certainly can wait and see on him. But as a target in a draft league I am in. The tea leaves make me think an Eze last season situation - not nailed straight away, growing pains, but became more relevant latter half of the season.

    I just look at Palace and who is around, besides the new signings, and it seems like the door is open for anyone who can create or finish some chances. But, he's only 19. Worried they might not "unleash" him enough this season to warrant drafting him now.

    Thoughts? Cheers

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      ...:shock:

      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        🙄

        1. PartyTime
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          😯

      2. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        there's an old face. How are ya? I mean, let me know once you are over the initial shock. 🙂

    2. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Welp, at least nothing has changed in the last ten years.

      Still asking the questions that leave people in shock. 🙂

      Right, I will give it a go next year. 😉

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Massive dive in forum users ability to critically think and also engage in helping others. Some things do change

        If you think he is a sleeper why not pick up later?

        1. @FuzzyWarbles
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Its a deep league, someone is going to pick him up, just wanted to gauge how much auction money to spend, Sounds like a "dont touch" but if he falls to next to nothing to buy, maybe stash him if I can.

          Cheers and good to see you Ginkapo! 🙂

    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Actually he's injured right now - very Palace that 🙂

      Think if he does become a thing it may be from set pieces - a traditional Palace weakness and one of his specialties. In general terms he's a year behind Eze in development and I'm not clear that he will be an instant starter when fit. He's very left footed and the likely opening for him is on the right wing - he can play there of course.

      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        I knew Eze was out, didnt realize Olise was too. Sounds like the natural replacement for Townsend then, just a matter of how quickly.

        Cheers

  9. Lovren an elevator
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Is Gabriel nailed for arsenal?

    1. BobB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      By no means - only Ben White is at CB

    2. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      White and Gabriel are first choice

    3. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Not Nailed. Mari and Holding will rotate

    4. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I've gone for White, but not expecting every game from him, bench will cover.

  10. Moderately content penguin
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Have been wondering about Norwich. I had them down as a team to target. But now wondering if that is wrong think beyond the fact that they are a promoted side and presumably bottom 10 material.

    Their defence last season stood up really well and was way better than the side they came up with previously and the focus in much less on attack. A different side now?

    Base figures

    Norwich goal record in championship 2018/19 scored 93 - 57
    Norwich record in championship 2020/21 scored 75-36

    That's a wild swing in goal difference and the defensive record is pretty close to the Wolves and Leeds promotion sides. Not saying they will be also make mid table or more but defensively they could put in performances that are not too too dissimilar.

    Interesting stat

    They only conceded twice seven times all season so far as I can see. Impressive.
    The other promotion side conceded twice no fewer than seventeen times.

    1. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Correction

      The goal difference is static - point being they achieved success in a very different way

    2. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Overthinking

      1. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        So they are the same side that came up previously?

        Most winners of the Championship tend to do well and they won it at a canter really. Their 2018/19 side was very extreme

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Zimmermann was fit in the championship 18/19 injured 19/20. So its much more than just comparing their championship form

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Did any defenders get much attacking points last year?

        1. Moderately content penguin
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Max Aarons got a couple of goals and assists. Down on his 2 goals and 6 assists previously - regression indicative perhaps of a change in approach.

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 15 Years
            5 years, 7 days ago

            I'm greedy, I want more than clean sheets

      2. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Yep

        Their PL season was blighted by injury after injury and that's relevant too. It' a small club that doesn't go wild in the market and so it's reasonable to assume that an injury crisis would hurt them more than a Villa or Leeds that wouldn't think twice about spending in the market to strengthen.

    4. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      The amount of goals conceded has dropped a lot. That should be a warning sign, perhaps they are not a team to target against. And since they have sold Buendia they may just have to try to counter attack and defend much better. This makes me rethink my short term punt on Jota, which is risky anyway and reward may be lower than I expected (Yea, he will brace after having said this).

  11. Dynamic Duos
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    A or B?

    A) Tierney and DCL
    B) Shaw/Digne and Antonio

    1. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Beginning to warm to Antonio selection

      B (with Digne)

    2. BERGKOP
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      B with Digne

  12. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    I'm on wilson at the moment. Love him as a pick, 50% of goals will go through him at Newcastle, and a brilliant talismanic striker, But the blokes made of kinetic sand, and a transfer waiting to happen.

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Yeah this is me. Not sure I can be bothered to deal with him when he gets injured in the first four.

  13. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Could someone be so kind and please share what is the current FSS and Twitter template?

    Thanks

    1. Well you know, Triffic
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      No.

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Ha

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Anyone please

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          No

    3. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Nope

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        I miss the good old days when there was an FFS community willing to help each other.

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          You're just lazy...

        2. BERGKOP
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          I think it's as simple as clicking back a page or two to get the FFS template.

          I've seen your post below re: a break. It may be worthwhile if you're feeling like this now. I also considered it but thought that now more than ever it's important to connect with mates while we can't catch up in person.

          1. FPL Daniel
            • 17 Years
            5 years, 7 days ago

            I feel my businss is about to take off and spending less time here will help a lot IMO.

            But all the fun will be missed too on the other hand so it's a difficult decision. Especially that I am a famous FPL addict to be fair

    4. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Sanchez
      Trent, Shaw, 4.5
      Salah, Bruno, Raphinha, someone
      Watkins, 7.5, Toney

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Thanks, greatly greatly appreciated. Wishing you an amazing season

  14. N00B
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    When Sancho's price was announced:
    https://twitter.com/GeorgePircalabu/status/1421433428931715072

  15. Shark Team
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    A nice cross by Firpo and a header by Bamford for the Leeds goal

  16. BENOIT
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    I know he is geteat value, but I'm seeing Leeds tough early fixtures as an opportunity to differentiate from Raphina.

    I'll get him from GW 5 onwards.

  17. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Like Ville Ronka, I still haven't opened FPL and there is no team under my name. Thinking of giving 1-year break and focus on my business.

    What do you think?

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      B

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Good choice (only if you can hold your nerve till final whistle)

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        It will be tough I know especially close to the deadline but I have successfully done it once.

        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          you can create a team with different email ID and put less effort, wont harm your original history and their wont be any FOMO.

    3. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Ya focus on your business

    4. I Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Form over fixtures.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Fixtures and Form 🙂

    5. BERGKOP
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I don't think you'll miss it. Just enjoy the football.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 7 days ago

        That is my main question. Will I enjoy the football that much when I won't be obsessing about who got the assist and who got the BP?

        1. BERGKOP
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Only you can answer that.

          I'd be more interested in whether your business would suffer as a result of fantasy football? It's nice to have things outside of work that give you balance.

        2. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Nope. You won't. But you can just forget watching football, drinking beer and all leisure time activities and just work 😉

  18. Bavarian
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    A-Cavani-Grealish-Raphinha
    B-Watkins-Sancho-Harrison

  19. The Liver Birds
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Hi All,
    New to the game any feedback on my draft team would be appreciated.
    Martinez
    TAA Ayling Shaw
    Beundia Raphinha Bruno Salah
    Barnes, Calvert-Lewin Antonio

    Sanchez Davies Noble Amarty

  20. raffteeone
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 6 days ago

    Only if Wilson can stay injury-free for ten games