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7 August 2021 1453 comments
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We assess the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) appeal of Ben White (£4.5m) following his £50m move to Arsenal from Brighton and Hove Albion.

When it came to the skimpy price reveal by the powers that be last month, as part of a Brighton defence that conceded the fewest goals of anyone in the Premier League last season outside the traditional “big six”, the eyes of many where being drawn to the England defender.

Fast forward little over a fortnight, and the 23-year-old’s big-money move from the south coast to an Arsenal back three that cried out for a commanding, if silky, centre-half presence through much of last season, has turned the eye-catching to unmissable.

The rarest of gems, White’s post-Fantasy mark-up move has seen his ownership figures rocket to over 23% and he is by far the most-owned asset at a club with big expectations to improve on what was a dismal campaign last season.

Wesley Fofana‘s (£4.5m) horrendous injury and the FPL exodus that followed has also boosted White’s numbers

Falling firmly within the much coveted ‘premium enabler’ category, the question now turns to how much of an asset he can become to our squads. 

Whilst Fantasy legends are born on similar tales of late-summer transfer fortune (Diogo Jota (£7.5m) springs to mind), the name Rhian Brewster still rings violently in the heads of many a scorned selector.

With that in mind, we use the datasets found in the Fantasy Football Scout Members Area to run the rule over this season’s great White hope.

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The History

If you feel that Ben White’s is a name you have been hearing for quite a few years in terms of a glorious coming of age, few could put a reasonable argument to the contrary. 

Having left boyhood club Southampton as a 16-year-old before joining the Seagulls academy in 2014, White got his first taste of senior football during a much-lauded loan spell at Newport County across their 2017/18 League 2 campaign, making 42 appearances for the Welsh side as a teenage centre-half.

It was at the start of that 2018-19 season that White first pinged on the FPL radar, priced up at £4.0m whilst playing understudy to the proven centre-back partnership of Lewis Dunk (£5.0m) and Shane Duffy (£4.0m) that, incredibly, still are available for Brighton backers to select this season.

White registered no Premier League minutes throughout that Dunk and Duffy dominated 18/19 campaign, spending the latter half of the season on loan at League One side Peterborough United. He earned rave reviews during his 16-game spell, with the Posh narrowly missing out on the play-offs on the final day of the regular season.

Still deemed surplus to starting XI requirements at the Amex, White secured a high-profile loan to Marcelo Bielsa’s Leeds United at the beginning of what proved to be the most fruitful of years for the Yorkshire giants. As the Whites romped to Championship success, White was an ever present at the heart of their all-action defensive third.

By the time he had left Elland Road before embarking on his first full season as a playing asset for Brighton in the Premier League last season, White was voted the Championship Young Player of the Year as well as featuring in the Championship Team of the Season for 2019/20.

And so finally, last season, and a breakout year in the Premier League, where the Dorset-born defender made 36 Premier League appearances in that impressive Brighton defence. He was voted Club Player of the Year on the night he made his first senior start for his country against Romania.

White (eventually) found himself in the England squad for the Euros, after the withdrawal of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) through injury yet failed to make an appearance at this summer’s showpiece event as England made it to the final of the competition.

Hailed for his ball-playing attributes, interest in White reached fever pitch over the summer and eventually resulted in Brighton wilting in their attempts to keep hold of him when Arsenal came calling.

Having penned a long-term contract at the Emirates he has been handed the number four shirt immortalised by the likes of Patrick Vieira and Cesc Fabregas and made his debut in Saturday’s 2-1 friendly defeat to Chelsea.

The Statistics

The 23-year-old’s output from a Fantasy perspective was credible last season, if falling short of awe inspiring. For instance, we still await his first attacking return, having only engineered 10 attempts from 22 touches in total in opponent’s penalty areas throughout last season. Only one gave an opposing keeper any worry.

But Mikel Arteta certainly has not acquired White on the back of his attacking prowess, but rather that sustained consistency that evaded the Gunners for the vast majority of last season. 

White registered 3,194 minutes of Premier League playing time, 636 minutes more than Rob Holding (£4.5m) – Arsenal’s most featured defensive asset. That’s seven games.

Despite Arsenal and Brighton both recording 12 clean sheets last season, White tallied more than any Arsenal defender in the category given his nigh-on ever-presence for Graham Potter’s side.

Given that, it’s no surprise that the Gunners newbie scored significantly higher than his new teammates in terms of Baseline Bouns Points last season, but more telling in terms of what White can bring to his new side can be found in his per 90 stats in key defensive categories.

  1. Warby84
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone have a super 6 league I could join, just for fun?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Barca are still trying - could be their only hope 😉

  2. Well you know, Triffic
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    If FPL put Lukaku in at a sensible price it could help break the template

    1. Captain Vantastic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      By becoming the template.

      1. Well you know, Triffic
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        No because it would force people to make a choice as to whether they can get Salah Bruno and TAA

        1. Qaiss
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          But on the flip side, if he was 10.5/11, eventually everyone would be able to afford him and two other heavy hitters.

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It won't. Tough fixtures and he won't start GW1.

    3. Qaiss
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A sensible price is 11.5/12 though. Goalscorer, probably nailed, playing for the European champions.

      1. Well you know, Triffic
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        11 imo. Based off what happened at United and Kane is 12.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        At least make it so that you can have Kane or Kaku but not both.

        1. Qaiss
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah agree, harder choices mostly causes greater variance. The Mane/Salah prices are an exception but if Kaku was priced at 11.5/12, you would have to choose between him, Kane, Salah, Bruno, KDB, etc and you could probably only have two of them.

  3. Agger
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Josh Brownhill nailed on boys?

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Extremely

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He was last season. He's a year older and they've bought no one. So, yeh.

    3. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nope they're trying to sign a winger

  4. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Digne or double up on United def with Maguire?

    Any other options for 5.5m?

    1. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Stones

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cresswell

      2. Karan_G14
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Laporte?

        1. g40steve
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Wanting out, back to Spain?

          1. Karan_G14
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            That's news to me. Haven't been following these rumours only Fabrizio.

    2. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Surprised there's not much love for Reguilon at 5.0. was 5.5 last season, got 6 assists in 2000 minutes and Nuno might play him wingback

      1. Karan_G14
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Don't trust Spurs defenders yet.

        1. TheBiffas
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Even with Romero?

      2. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Good punt - differential

    3. Warby84
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Cresswell

      1. Karan_G14
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Might as well get Coufal and save the 0.5m. I think West Ham def might be a bit overrated. They were not great in the last quarter of last season.

    4. Bragazeti
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Cresswell or double up

    5. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Stones

    6. Avery
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pereira under the radar

    7. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Maguire could be a great choice now that United have a proper set piece coach.

  5. Zoostation
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    My plan is Havertz to Gundogan or Grealish for GW2.

    Looking any good?

    Bachmann (Foster)

    TAA Shaw Veltman (White, Omobamidele)

    Salah Fernandes Havertz Buendia (Brownhill)

    Antonio Wilson Toney

    1. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nice team but Bachmann

  6. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    In your opinion who are the best MFers to have in the following price brackets for the first 6 GWs

    5.0-5.5
    7.5-8.0

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      5.5- ESR, Mbuemo
      7.5- Jota, Greenwood

    2. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      5.5-6.0 Sarr Mbuemo
      6.5 Buendia Raphinha
      7.5 Jota Greenwood
      8.0 Grealish

    3. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Tella and Mbuemo could be badass MFers

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      ESR, Mbuemo, Tella

      Mount, Jota, Greenwood

      All worth considering.

  7. Champions League Varane
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    What are people’s thoughts on 451? Two dud strikers but the midfielders are so much better then the strikers this year. (currently on 442)

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      You're stuffed if your only striker gets injured or dropped. Stuck if you want to upgrade him. Might work in a zombie team but too inflexible for the real game unless you're planning a very early wildcard.

    2. In FPHell
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I really don’t think that premise is accurate at all. I can’t remember a year where I’ve wanted so many forwards, particularly in the 8.5 to 7.5 price bracket.

    3. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Definitely a consideration, I've swapped from 343 to 352 as Toney and Antonio are the only 2 strikers worth it in my opinion, the only very minor issue being Brownhill > Obafemi as a 4.5 dud for the bench

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah I’m also going 3-5-2. I’m still undecided on Toney though.

  8. Meme2011
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Has anyone ever done well historically by playing 5 at the back?

    1. Oooof
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Inter Milan 1960s

      1. Meme2011
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        haha
        just as an example

        pickford
        stones, shaw, digne, cresswell, james
        salah, son, greenwood, jota
        vardy

        4, buendia, 4.5 fwd, 4.5 fwd

        1. Oooof
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Be a ballsy approach

    2. zes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Depends what you mean by historically but Chelsea won the league under the Italy manager (his name escapes me) a few year ago

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Kante

    3. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The pundit who's video is on this front page, and one poster here who claims success.

  9. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Obafemi starting for Southampton today- shop window or chance may get into first 11?

    1. Oooof
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Be fantastic enabler if he does

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Well he's happily nailed to the end of my bench whatever happens.

    3. White Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Aren’t they linked with a centre forward?

    4. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      NO, people just willing him to play.

      Might get 20 mins from the bench occasionally but only if Armstrong isn’t purchased

    5. I Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Won't be a regular starter but should get some minutes.

  10. Agger
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Castagne 5.5m is the one

    1. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The one to appear in week 3 because his face got caved in? Agreed.

  11. Galza
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Just watched the 5 at the back video.

    Very interesting and inspired me to come up with this…

    Martinez
    TAA / Robbo / Dias / Shaw / Digne
    Salah / Bruno / Sarr
    Bamford / Toney

    Steer / Brownhill / Tella / Obafeme

    Strong as I can get at the back and all 5 attackers are all penalty takers.

    1. Agger
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Plans if Lukaku, Kane etc start banging goals in from the off?

      1. Galza
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        No plans.
        Was just bored at looking at my draft and thought I would see what I could come up with. 🙂

      2. Yes Ndidi
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I'll be relaxing in the knowledge that you can't have 'em all, and Salah/Bruno/Son will all be there or thereabouts.

  12. White Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I trust Bruno, Shaw and Greenwood are in every RMT now?

    1. Agger
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'd rather AWB over Shaw

      1. In FPHell
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Absolutely no logic in that. Have you seen AWB actually play? Lad can tackle and run but god he has no end product

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        You and... nobody else.

        Shaw is just clearly the better option. On corners too.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm on Bruno, Shaw and Maguire (and was before the match), but I don't do RMTs.

    3. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Just S & G

    4. The bean
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Atleast 2 of the 3 anyway myself included

    5. Fat Frank
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Think I prefer Jota or Grealish to Greenwood

  13. The bean
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How is this looking?
    352

    Shanchez (4mil)
    TAA, Shaw, Dias (Lowton, 4mil)
    Salah, Bruno, jota, Barnes, buendia
    Antonio, toney (obafemi)

    1. zes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looks good, I’d be worried having Antonio, Barnes and Jota with issues around injuries/minutes but that’s just me

      1. The bean
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah thats true. few sick notes in there. Don't want to be making transfers but there is so many options in those positions around the same price. Hope I pick the right ones.

  14. Agger
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Not seen many with both Robertson and Trent

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Many rant about what amazing value Trent is but refuse to get Robertson. Its incredible

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Funnily enough I just ruined my 3-5-2 by putting him back in. Now a Back 4 of TAA/Robbo/Shaw/Maguire.

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Trent was rubbish outside the last 10 weeks last season

        1. BobB
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          He and Robbo both suffered at both ends with lack of VVD. Expect normal service resumed.

    2. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      heres mine
      martinez
      robbo/veltman/trent
      tella/salah/son/greenwood
      watkins/toney/antonio

      steer/raphinha/white/williams

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It just doesn't suit my style. Would rather try and go for the top bandwagons early to build team value and having TAA + Robbo hinders that plan by having too much money in defense.

      Perfectly good picks, both of them, and I can't fault people for going for it, but just not what I think is ideal/most flexible.

  15. Oooof
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is Sancho out of favour already?

    1. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not match fit yet

      1. Oooof
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks!

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He was never in favour

      1. Oooof
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why’s that?

        1. DARE TO BISCAN
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          When was he a regular starter at Utd?

    3. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Hasn’t even trained with the team yet. Joins on Monday

  16. zes
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Any clue how long DCL expected out for?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Just a dodgy toe so should be back. Maybe not 100% match fit though.

  17. squ1rrel
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Looking to punt on Ziyech for the first gameweek or two, what are the chances he starts?

    1. Galza
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He’s certainly on form

    2. Carefree Crew
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He's been playing & scoring in pre season, being African he's had a full pre season. (No Euros / Copa)

      However, assuming we buy a striker, the list of players for two attacking positions either side in TT's 3,4,2,1 are:

      1. Havertz
      2. Werner
      3. Pulisic
      4. Ziyech
      5. Mount
      6. CHO (TT played at Wing Back)

      6 / 7 potential players including Ziyech for 2 positions.

      Definite risk of rotation & being subbed off early IMO.
      I recognise you said "punt", potentially I'd consider other options.

      I'd suggest that Mount Havertz & Werner are ahead of him in the pecking order when all fit.

  18. Rigid Digit
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    DCL crocked (but for how long?).
    DCL => Antonio then for GW1
    (I think it's the best option versus Ings, Bamford, Watkins or Ihenacho)

  19. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How's it looking?

    Sanchez (Foster)
    TAA Shaw Cancelo (White, Omobamidele)
    Buendia Barnes Salah Son Greenwood
    Antonio Toney (Rodrigo)

    Thoughts would be much appreciated 🙂

    Cheers

  20. g40steve
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Any early Leics vs City team leaks?

    One of the Leics Twitter leakers looks to be suspended?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ward? The reserve keeper used to be the Anfield Express leaker. The leaks ceased when he moved to Leicester!

  21. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Pickford Digne -> Martinez AWB donw

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      *done

  22. Bocaginge
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Bowen + Wilson
    Or
    Fraser + Antonio

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Bowen 2% owned, never mentioned here. Got myself a canny little differential.

      1. Bocaginge
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Aye I’m thinking the same tbh! I think Bowen is going to come out of the blocks fast. Good pre-season and he’s come off the back of a great 20/21 season.

  23. House Frey Wedding Planner
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    14.0 to fill 2 defence and 1 midfield slot. This is for the final spot in my first XI plus my first 2 sub options:

    A - Coufal, Amartey, Gilmour (+0.5)
    B - Coufal, Tella, Amartey
    C - Tella, Ayling, Amartey (+0.5)
    D - White, Ayling, Gilmour (+0.5)
    E - Stones, Amartey, Gilmour
    F - ESR, Veltman, Amartey

    I have Sanchez in goal and my other starting defenders are TAA, Shaw and Digne.

    Thoughts?

    1. Rigid Digit
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A are the bargain bins in my Team
      (so based on my usual performance you may wish to do something else).
      Coufal and Gilmour will get regular minutes - Coufal should continue the assists (if Wham set themselves up the same as last year).
      And Amartey may be a starter now with Fofana out

      1. House Frey Wedding Planner
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I'm leaning towards A out of those. Do prefer to have 0.5 itb to give more flexibility to change and to catch price rises

    2. The Invincibles
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      F

  24. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    DCL "minor toe" injury. He may well be fit for GW1. Still in my draft for now.

  25. Meme2011
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    does anyone like this approach or not?

    Pickford (foster)
    TAA, Chillwell, Stones, Shaw (white)
    Salah, Son, Greenwood, Barnes, (Tella)
    Ings, Antonio (Obafemi)

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm still on the fence whether to start Chiwell or wait til after the City game. Despite the tough fixtures I could still see 3 clean sheets in the first 6, but 0mins preseason a bit comcerning. What do you think Chilwell owners/prospectors?

      1. The Mentaculus
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Oh and G, team looks really strong

  26. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A front three of ASM, Toney and Iheanacho totally mental?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Well ASM is out, so yeh.

      1. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why is he not flagged?

    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nacho not nailed

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        If he starts the CShield I think he's worth going for.

  27. james 101
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    First and maybe final draft!

    Would really appreciate anysuggestions!

    Sanchez Foster
    TAA Shaw Cresswell White 4m
    Bruno Salah Buendia Raphina Bissouma
    Antonio Nacho Wilson

    Thanks!

  28. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Really slim pickings for forwards at the moment.

  29. Glasner Ball
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Zaha goal. Def on pens this season

  30. Avery
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Zaha penalty
    Pal 1 - 0 Wat