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Brentford face Arsenal in tonight’s season opener, with all Fantasy Premier League (FPL) eyes on Ivan Toney (£6.5m).

The Bees forward, who arrives in the top-flight having netted 33 Championship goals last term, is the second-highest owned forward heading into Gameweek 1 with 31.4% of FPL managers backing him.

Brentford boss Thomas Frank has opted for a 3-5-2 formation. That means an out-of-position (OOP) start for differential Bryan Mbeumo (£5.5m), with new signings Kristoffer Ajer (£4.5m) and Frank Onyeka (£5.0m) also involved from the off.

Meanwhile, Arsenal line-up in a 4-2-3-1, with forwards Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£10.0m) and Alexandre Lacazette missing out as expected.

The most popular Gunners asset for tonight’s game is Ben White (£4.5m), who sits in 26.2% of teams. He features as a right-sided centre-half, in a line-up which also includes youngsters Albert Sambi Lokonga (£5.0m), Emile Smith Rowe (£5.5m), Gabriel Martinelli (£5.5m) and Folarin Balogun (£5.0m).

15.4% owned Bukayo Saka (£6.5m) starts on the bench.

Kick-off at the Brentford Community Stadium is at 20.00 BST.

LINE-UPS

Brentford XI: Raya, Ajer, Jansson, Pinnock, Canos, Janelt, Norgaard, Onyeka, Henry, Mbeumo, Toney

Subs: Gunnarsson, Goode, Forss, Wissa, Ghoddos, Dervisoglu, Bidstrup, Sorensen, Roerslev

Arsenal XI: Leno, Chambers, White, Mari, Tierney, Sambi Lokonga, Xhaka, Smith Rowe, Pepe, Martinelli, Balogun

Subs: Hein, Bellerin, Cedric, Maitland-Niles, Holding, Tavares, Elneny, Nelson, Saka

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  1. Evs
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    5 years, 2 months ago

    Been a long time…

    1. Podge
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hey ho

    2. Rinseboy
      5 years, 2 months ago

      wow blast from the past!

    3. Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hi Evs 🙂

    4. PB-THE-VET
      5 years, 2 months ago

      well hello

    5. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 2 months ago

      How’s everyone doing here ?

      Still fighting the good fight

    6. Rinseboy
      5 years, 2 months ago

      you brought in Michu Evs?

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Haha ! He’s dead to me buddy lol

    7. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      5 years, 2 months ago

      Jesus wept! Now there's a sight I haven't seen for time!!!

      Hope you've been keeping well and nice to see you around again 🙂

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Like when Obi Wan Kenobi came out of that cave … 🙂

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          5 years, 2 months ago

          lol

    8. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Holy crap! Good to see you

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Epic, Champ and now Evs

        Did I get in a hot tub time machine?

        1. Evs
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          5 years, 2 months ago

          And you bud.

          Champ about is he 🙂 ? And epic wow !!

    9. Bartowski
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hi Grandad

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Cheekay. 😉

    10. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hi Evs

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Hey buddy.

    11. Christina.
      5 years, 2 months ago

      wtf?

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Now, there an old friend !!!!

        How’s tricks Tina ???

        1. Christina.
          5 years, 2 months ago

          all well pal
          You back for good?

          1. Evs
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            5 years, 2 months ago

            Not done a team. Almost did. Still retired. Seen a tweet earlier and thought I would
            Comment see who was about from the old crowd

            Good Ol days. Hey ?

            1. THE Wild Rover
              5 years, 2 months ago

              Hey fella. Not many left, hardly come here myself now.

              1. Evs
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                5 years, 2 months ago

                You been here longer than me fella. Still going I see !!

                1. The Rock
                  5 years, 2 months ago

                  Hey Evs, WR and the other old timers. Best of luck for the season ahead!

                  Hope you's are all doing good!

            2. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              5 years, 2 months ago

              Yo! You won't find many of the old crowd here

              Christina posted elsewhere to drag them over

              1. Evs
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                5 years, 2 months ago

                What, he’s like some sort of PR person now on mag slug inviting people in lol

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  5 years, 2 months ago

                  he's like the pied piper with his rats

                  1. Evs
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                    5 years, 2 months ago

                    Funny !!!

    12. Syd.
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Bloody old timers

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Pathetic init ?

        1. Syd.
          5 years, 2 months ago

          This place has been gone for a long time bud

          As Cheese said there are other hangouts to be had with quite a few old ugly mugs

          1. Evs
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            5 years, 2 months ago

            I won’t qualify for that 😉

    13. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hey Evs, nice to see a familiar face 🙂

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Hey bud. Hope you are good

    14. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Wow! this is a rear occurrence! hope all is well!

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Yes fella. Another classic player still here ! Great to see

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Great to see you, put a smile to my face!

          As with other veterans above, even I am not here much.

          1. Evs
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            5 years, 2 months ago

            That’s a crying shame. I used to
            Love this place. Probably a little too much - haha !

            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              5 years, 2 months ago

              Yes. We all did

              But it changed here so many of us moved on. I guess it's just the way it is

    15. Anorak
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Legend.

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        Haha ! Anorak, a true fantasy football gent 🙂

    16. Zilla42
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hey, Evs. Good to see you.

      1. Evs
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        … and you buddy

    17. The 12th Man
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hope your keeping well.

  2. diesel001
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Balogun ain't going to cut it. Push Martinelli up front and get Saka on.

  3. tommo1989
    5 years, 2 months ago

    When can we see other people’s teams?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Already can

    2. PB-THE-VET
      5 years, 2 months ago

      now

    3. Bartowski
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Click on the name to be added then GW1.

      1. tommo1989
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Thank you! Wondered why it wasn’t showing when I just clicked on the name

    4. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Manager name —> GW1

    5. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Click the GW1 in their section.

    6. PhillyBoy
      5 years, 2 months ago

      after clicking on their name. select GW1

    7. Rochdale_Cowboy
      5 years, 2 months ago

      For some reason it works using chrome, but not on the app.

    8. just a man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Don’t think you can in the app, only on the site.

  4. G-Whizz
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    5 years, 2 months ago

    GW1 BBers in the mud...

    1. Liberate HK - antichinazi
      5 years, 2 months ago

      why

      1. G-Whizz
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        How many points do you think they have right now?

        1. Liberate HK - antichinazi
          5 years, 2 months ago

          I am a bb er, my only player in this game is Raya

          1. G-Whizz
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            5 years, 2 months ago

            Great start!

            Who else you have?

    2. diesel001
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Why? Most are BB with Amartey, Tsimikas a cheap midfielder and a GK like Bachmann

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        I saw one with bear Arsenal in it and I think just Toney up front?

        You can't tell me that's a good BB...

    3. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Why do people think a GW1 BB is a good idea?

      You have the least amount of money you'll have all season & have the spread it across all 15 when everyone else is squeezing as much from their 11 as possible.

      1. AIRMILES
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Presumably it's just the people who play for the week and not the season, right? They're not the competition.

        1. G-Whizz
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          5 years, 2 months ago

          Nope.

          I have a rival that's done that very thing and he's a season player...

      2. G-Whizz
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        5 years, 2 months ago

        When you say it like that...

      3. how now brown cow
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Plus always surprise benchings.

      4. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Always trying to reinvent the wheel

      5. Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Everyone fixates on the impossible idea of having 15 double game players without getting buggered by blanks. Doesnt happen

        BB gw 1 means WC and TC arent hampered.

        1. Evs
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          5 years, 2 months ago

          Stranger …

      6. Rochdale_Cowboy
        5 years, 2 months ago

        I've said it on here a few times. People who BB gw1 are flat-earthers simple as

      7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Silly people have been doing silly things since time immemorial

        Idiots gonna idiot basically

      8. Mr. O'Connell
        5 years, 2 months ago

        It's a useless chip. The DGW dream of 8 starters and a 50 point bench is pie in the sky stuff. Not enough research has been done into how damaging the chip is outside of the week it's played. GW1 a perfectly valid time to play it.

    4. how now brown cow
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Lol. I won't screw mine up till April.

      1. All The Aces
        5 years, 2 months ago

        I have bench boosted. I am not playing for just one week. But I am about as confident as I will be all season I have 15 starters.

        I think the Tsimikas thing has allowed this to happen.

        Tsimikas will probably be on the bench now!

        1. how now brown cow
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Fair play. Do your own thing,

        2. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          5 years, 2 months ago

          Love it!

          #PlayYourOwnGame

          I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed for yah!

    5. Pep bites Kun
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Man, you are either making inane comments or supporting others that do. What's the buzz there G-W? Never heard you so negative

  5. Bartowski
    5 years, 2 months ago

    How is Saka scaring the hell out of international players but not starting vs Brentford?!

    1. Andy_Social
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Has he had a pre-season?

      1. Bartowski
        5 years, 2 months ago

        I know he played against Spurs but I don't think even if he hadn't that should disqualify him against the alternatives playing.

    2. Rainer
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Rusty legs.

      Has to be brought on at HT.

    3. el polako
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Still catching his breath after Chellinis treatment.

  6. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 2 months ago

    This Brentford pressing will surely fatigue them second half.

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal or Brentford?

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I'm still waiting for Leeds to tire. Any day now.

      1. Zimo
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Very scary team they are

  7. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 2 months ago

    WENGER OUT!

    Top four isn’t good enough!

    1. Dacra
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Top 4 is optimistic.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Top 4 is a fever dream at this stage

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Don't forget the watchable football and quality players

  8. AnyoneButLiverpool
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Toney's style is not cut for the PL. He will struggle a lot.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Bit of a hot take after 45 minutes.

    2. how now brown cow
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Based on 40 mins? Or did you say this beforehand?

    3. FPLMACKEM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Laughable.

    4. Zimo
      5 years, 2 months ago

      His link up plays been nice

    5. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Find Maximus link on prev page

      1. Strangelove
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 2 months ago

        This ^^

    6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      5 years, 2 months ago

      You should be ashamed of yourself posting this shite mate

    7. All The Aces
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I remember people saying the exact same thing about Watkins last season after a few games. You may be right but give the lad a chance.

  9. Yeboah Power XI
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Early transfer stats for Toney…. Transfers in 4000…. Fourth highest ‘transfers in’

  10. Bruce Lee
    5 years, 2 months ago

    before the deadline i took ben white out and put amartey in... what a move... .5m saved and no disappointment

    1. THE Wild Rover
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Until Vestergaard starts

  11. Miguel Sanchez
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Arsenal looking really second division these days

  12. Cok3y5murf
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Is Toney planning to have a shot?

  13. Karhumies
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Saka in at half time? They need a wake up call.

  14. Dreams
    5 years, 2 months ago

    What is mark's team I'd?

    1. Podge
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Page 1 of this post has lots of good team ids

      1. Dreams
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers mate.

  15. Dr. Rog
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Calm down... Arsenal will show up in the 2nd half and put this championship side to the sword.

    2-1 COYG

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal may show up…

      In the championship next season

  16. _Make
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Brentford are doing well but we must remember that they don't get to play Arsenal every week.

    1. Podge
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Pure favoritism giving them the easiest game of the season first

      1. _Make
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Seems scripted doesn't it

    2. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hahah true

  17. el polako
    5 years, 2 months ago

    I put a 5 quid that Arteta will walk out with grey hair for 2nd half.

    1. how now brown cow
      5 years, 2 months ago

      No way, the Just For Men ad will be his next gig.

  18. Forlorn Hope
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Felt that I wanted to post something, which I rarely do, but on this occasion I felt strongly about. The number of content creators or big names on Twitter (and they know who they are) who have spent weeks unveiling “my latest draft” only at 6:30 tonight to have something completely different to what the were peddling even a few hours earlier. One suddenly brought in two Man City players from nowhere. Now I understand that they have the right to change their selections but when you charge people in the form of Patreon services there is surely a requirement for integrity and honesty. Unfortunately this seems to be sadly lacking from some and in these people I am truly disappointed. These are the very people who have given up their day jobs to make a living from Fantasy Football, so please do not forget that those that pay your bills can very easily leave Patreon as soon as they joined leaving you high and dry.
    I personally do not subscribe to any paid services other than the members area of FFS where I hope they continue with their high levels of integrity and honesty. This is what sets them apart from others.

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      He changed it live on YouTube, anyone watching or paying to watch could have done the same

    2. Podge
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I don’t understand patreon, free stuff you pay for ..
      What !

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 2 months ago

        You definitely don't understand it because that's wrong lol

    3. el polako
      5 years, 2 months ago

      It's all bit like fpl equivalent of Maccie D's for masses...

    4. Bartowski
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Who are you talking about?

    5. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Don’t you hate it when they make it hard for you to copy them?

    6. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Why don’t they just do a one time video during deadline lol

    7. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Lol they literally always preface their team selections with “i am still tinkering this is not final”

      how dare they tinker with their teams like everyone else??!!

    8. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I'll never forget the Jan sieniwicz article towards the end of last season as long as I live (the one where he sung Mahrez & Foden & Man City assets from the rooftops, talked them up as "outstanding captain options", then proceeded to make 4 transfers, for an 8 point hit, without bringing in a single city player, let alone capping them)

      It was disgraceful

      FFS should be ashamed they even published it

    9. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      How dare they change their minds... I don't understand why people get so caught up with these FPL celebs. They play the same game as us and don't really know any better. Let them do whatever, it shouldn't affect you at all unless for some reason you're copying their exact team - which would defeat the purpose of playing the game...

  19. Karhumies
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Saka transfer out from 2900+ teams already. Suppose it's time for halftime sub and a goal from him.

    1. BeaversWithAttitude
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Lol... "wait for it!" Crazy impatient.

      1. Karhumies
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Saka OOP forward?

  20. Dacra
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Good: Didn't get Toney.
    Bad: Got ESR.

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't be banking that good yet.

    2. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Why do you think is good that you didn't get Toney? Cuz he didn't score in the first h? Casuals all over the forum

      1. Dacra
        5 years, 2 months ago

        On the dame basis, ESR isn't bad yet! 😀

    3. Royal5
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Esr has done more than Toney tbf

  21. More Cowbell
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Guys is there some sort of glitch in the simulation? Brentford scored but it wasn’t Toney?!?

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 2 months ago

      ~50% involvement.

      Toney is officially due.

  22. Bushwhacker
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Good job Arsenal wait for their managers to want to leave rather than ever firing them.

  23. Joey Tribbiani
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Whites price gonna be 4.3 by GW4

  24. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Predicted Toney price tag next GW if he blanks today? 6.3m?

  25. Bubz
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Happy with what I’ve seen there as a Toney owner

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I'm happy to be a non-owner. Mbuemo looks like the one to get!

      1. Bubz
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Brentford playing well means Toney goals will come, simple as

        1. FPLMACKEM
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 2 months ago

          This 100%

  26. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 2 months ago

    New pen rules is a blow for Bruno owners

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Gonna get plenty of penalties regardless

    2. Dacra
      5 years, 2 months ago

      New pen rules?

      1. Bucky Barnes
        5 years, 2 months ago

        In so much that it actually has to be a pen now, not feather duster contact

  27. Al
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone got link to Mark's team?

    1. Podge
      5 years, 2 months ago

      First page, about the 6th post down

  28. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Who’s on pens for Arsenal?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Pepe probably?

  29. Captain Haddock
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Walcott vs. tired legs

    1. el polako
      5 years, 2 months ago

      He's still young.

  30. Simon69
    5 years, 2 months ago

    First manager sacked predictions?

    1. el polako
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Vieira.

      1. Rochdale_Cowboy
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Lego head
        Ralph Has... err the Southampton manager!

        1. Simon69
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Ah Ralph yeah!

    2. syke63
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Rafa

      1. Podge
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Oh he’d love another pay day

    3. Ze_Austin
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Too early

      1. Simon69
        5 years, 2 months ago

        For fun buddy c'mon

    4. how now brown cow
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Bruce

    5. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hasenhuttl

      1. Simon69
        5 years, 2 months ago

        My own thinking. I like him but worried about that squad

        1. Ze_Austin
          5 years, 2 months ago

          They probably can't fire him because of that squad

    6. Hiddenpaw
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Arteta

    7. Bubz
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Arteta

    8. Rainer
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Arteta if Norwich beat them.

      1. Bushwhacker
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Arsenal don't sack managers

    9. AIRMILES
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Bruno Lage.

    10. I Must Break You
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Arteta in the 80th minute of this game