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Gameweek 4 continues with Leeds United hosting Liverpool at Elland Road.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

For Leeds, new signing Daniel James (£6.0m) is on the bench, but Raphinha (£6.5m) starts after his ban for not being released to the Brazil squad was lifted.

Stuart Dallas (£5.5m) also features despite withdrawing from international duty, while Junior Firpo (£4.8m) has recovered from COVID-19 and replaces Pascal Struijk (£4.4m) in the starting XI.

As expected, Liverpool are without the injured Roberto Firmino (£8.8m) but Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) and Harvey Elliot (£5.5m) are fit.

Diogo Jota (£7.7m) starts in attack, while Thiago (£5.4m) replaces Jordan Henderson (£5.0m), who drops to the bench.

GAMEWEEK 4 LINE-UPS

Leeds XI: Meslier, Ayling, Cooper, Llorente, Firpo, Phillips, Dallas, Raphinha, Rodrigo, Harrison, Bamford

Subs: Klaesson, Struijk, Cresswell, Shackleton, Klich, Summerville, James, McCarron, Roberts

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Elliot, Salah, Mane, Jota

Subs: Kelleher, Konate, Gomez, Tsimikas, Milner, Henderson, Keita, Jones, Oxlade-Chamberlain

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  1. Rainer
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Liverpool will regret these misses.

    1. Licky
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      As is tradition.

    2. Glad He Ate Her
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      The sky is blue?

      1. DARE TO BISCAN
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Grey

  2. EmreCan Hustle
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Meslier has really matured quickly.

  3. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    People still wanna sell Antonio?

  4. Gunneryank
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Might be some goals in this one lads...

  5. Zimo
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Mane should be sold honestly. Just play Jota there over him when Firmino comes back

  6. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Sod it, I WC'd with Rom & Ron but no Salah but I'm going to have to find a way for all three.

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I can see those three being 1.5 more expensive between them in a matter of weeks

      Probably 3.0 more by Christmas

    2. Kellz86
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      The balance is rotating two of the three imo.

      For me that’s CR7/Lukaku and keep Salah

      1. MissouriMarten
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        This

  7. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Free VVD header.what a miss

    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      TAA assist denied

  8. Rainer
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Virgil big miss...

  9. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Virgil misses sitter

  10. SADIO SANÉ
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    anyone with eyes can see Jota is better than Firmino

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Agreed

      I'm a big Firmino fan but he's in the past now and Jota is the future.

  11. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    TAA BCC

  12. TheTinman
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Mane 😆

  13. EmreCan Hustle
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Its mad that some have considered dropping Trent.

  14. Duke Silver ☑
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Cooper on the pish last night 😆

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Been on it every night before playing a match I think 😛

  15. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    TAA would have got that assist too

    Looking forward to hearing the reasoning for going without Trent again this week

    1. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I've changed my transfer plans and will keep Trent

    2. el polako
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Cash cow for Salah\Lukaku\CR7 is the main reason for most.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Killing the golden goose more than a cash cow

        That goose has just laid its 87th return (egg) in it’s last 100 starts… with 60 minutes still to go

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Assists dont make up for clean sheets entirely. Honestly you are blinkered and incapable of objective thought on trent now

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Here’s one now 😆

        Harvey Elliott is killing his prospects this season 😆

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          You used to be a reasonable poster who discussed about the importance of trends over single events. What happened to make you so deadset on arguing your case with single actions?

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Trent non-owner?

      2. FourLokoLeipzig
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        You don’t think Liverpool will keep a lot of clean sheets with VVD back? I don’t like the term essential, but it just seems like self-sabotage to go without Trent when he and Liverpool are on form

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Form is an illusion with TAA - he’s not a normal player

          He was “out of form” and facing a blank gameweek followed by a trip to table topping Leciester away around the club world championship time season before last…. pro pundits were writing articles about how it’s a good idea to cash in on him for all these wonderful reasons…

          Spoiler alert: it *wasnt* a good idea to go without him - it was 26 points away from being a good idea

          The body of work he has put together over 100 games now, his underlying stats (even in the rare times of low actual points scores, and a season without VVD) are just too good…

          He’s guaranteed nothing, but unfortunately non-owners are very likely to be learning the hard way with him that it’s just not a good idea to swerve

          1. PartyTime
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            I remember that boxing day spectacle from Trent. It was a beautiful night

            1. FPL DONKEY
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 11 months ago

              I sold him that GW lol

              Never again.

        2. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Absolutely this!

        3. Harry the Hack
          • 17 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          I think Matip at 5.0 keeps just as many

    4. MissouriMarten
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      If Trent were a 7.5m midfielder, getting just a point for a clean sheet, he'd still be worthy of being high on the wishlist. Throw in 4 for the cs and he's a must imo.

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        If Trent was a midfielder, he would get similar returns to Mount imo

        1. MissouriMarten
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          I meant classified as a midfielder, although either way, I'm intrigued to know the thinking behind that conclusion.

          1. have you seen cyan
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            I mean if Trent was classified as a mid in FPL, I think his point returns would be similar to Mount, although their play is ofc nothing alike.

        2. _Ninja_
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Except TAA is nailed.

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        His chance creation alone is bonkers

        He hasn’t done it yet - but he’s also good enough at DFKs that he can spank in 2 or 3 in a little quick fire flurry at some stage

        Absolute joy of a player to own and to watch, it’s like he’s got a cheat code for the FPL scoring system

  16. PartyTime
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Trent cross that ball into the net for goodness sake

  17. Gunneryank
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Talk about being under the cosh...Leeds in trouble here.

  18. Bounce
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Salah hasn't left my team since August 2017 and it stays that way until he retires.

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Didn't you make a WC draft with no premiums?

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      That period when he was cursed last season must’ve been rough

  19. TheBiffas
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Jota will get his goal, chillax people

    1. Glad He Ate Her
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Nah

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      He’s been unlucky so far. Could’ve had goal and an assist

  20. Licky
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Can you imagine how many Liverpool would score with a clinical forward in the box...

    1. Rainer
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Missing Firmino...

    2. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Would play in this style though

      1. Danno - Emre Canada
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Wouldn’t*

        1. Licky
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Depends on the player really, Haaland, for example, would be someone that i'd agree with you about, you'd need to adjust to fit him in.

    3. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Imagine this team with chiesa... Wish we went all out to sign him

      1. Licky
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        It'll be interesting to see what we do next summer.

      2. dark91
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Where would Salah start then? As a ST?

        1. TheBiffas
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Chiesa can play anywhere

          1. dark91
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            True but he is most effective as a RW, which is where Salah plays

    4. PartyTime
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      A clinical forward like Inzaghi

    5. Chalobah's Witness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Haaland 🙁

      1. DARE TO BISCAN
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Ings

    6. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      They wouldn't get as many chances if they had a fox in the box. A lot of the chances are created from the interchanging of the front 3.

    7. Maeki2
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      ye Firmino would have scored... NOT

  21. MountainBeach
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Don't have access to my old FPL account. The password keeps being wrong and I don't get the reset emails for whatever reason. Friend and I are in dispute as to who won a certain league years back lol. Is there anyway I can find out? A third friend was also in those leagues, could he check historic leagues somehow?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Check your junk email?

      1. MountainBeach
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        doesn't appear, low-key think it got hacked. Ffs who hacks an old FPL account

    2. Avery
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      A friend who is in those leaks can look up the historical stuff

      1. Avery
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        *leagues

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          No they cant

    3. Sim Simma
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Try the wayback machine

  22. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Mane misses Salah Assist

  23. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Llorente injury saves him from a red card later

  24. The Kopite
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    BamBam looking good

  25. EmreCan Hustle
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Llorente just can't stay fit.

  26. Duke Silver ☑
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Salah and Mané linking up is an ominous sign.

  27. Rainer
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Mane -4 BPS 😆

  28. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Salah passing all the time to Mané.

    Bodes well for LFC

  29. dark91
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    What is it with that stupid smile from Mane after missing every chance!!

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Gary Neville waxing lyrical about him and Salah, not sure why Mane is getting praise for Salah being excellent

  30. Gunneryank
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    I gotta say, i really do enjoy watching Liverpool play.