Dugout Discussion
18 September 2021 1380 comments
Skonto Rigga Skonto Rigga
Share:

The most-played fixture in English football history, Aston Villa v Everton, brings Saturday’s Gameweek 5 action to a close.

Kick-off at Villa Park is at 17:30 BST.

Everton were already without the sidelined Dominic Calvert-Lewin for tonight’s match but Rafael Benitez has been hit by a further three injury blows in the run-up to the trip to Villa, with Jordan Pickford, Richarlison and Seamus Coleman all absent.

“With the tackle of Tarkowski, Richarlison was complaining about his knee during the week and he couldn’t do it.

“Pickford has a problem with his shoulder, he couldn’t do it.

“Seamus Coleman. At the end of the training session, he was a little bit tight, he felt his hamstring.

At the moment we think it would be 2/3 weeks minimum [for Richarlison, Pickford and Coleman] and after we will see.” – Rafael Benitez

Asmir Begovic, Alex Iwobi and Salomon Rondon start in place of that absent trio but there have been no other unenforced changes from the win over Burnley on Monday.

Dean Smith makes one alteration from Saturday’s 3-0 defeat at Chelsea, with goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez returning to the starting XI in place of Jed Steer after completing his 10-day quarantine period in Croatia.

Emiliano Buendia is also back but only makes the bench.

GAMEWEEK 5 LINE-UPS

Aston Villa XI: Martinez, Cash, Targett, Konsa, Mings, Luiz, McGinn, Watkins, Tuanzebe, Ings, Ramsey

Subs: Steer, Buendia, Traore, Young, Nakamba, El Ghazi, Hause, Bailey, Archer

Everton XI: Begovic, Keane, Allan, Gray, Digne, Mina, Townsend, Doucoure, Iwobi, Godfrey, Rondon

Subs: Lonergan, Kenny, Holgate, Gomes, Gordon, Davies, Branthwaite, Simms

1,380 Comments Login to Post a Comment
  1. Sanchit
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Why isn't Salah given the assist for Keita's goal?

    We see rebounds off the keeper given as assists all the time.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Because keita wasn't the intended target

      1. Sanchit
        5 years, 1 month ago

        The player who scores a rebound off the keeper is never the intended target?

        1. Zalk
          5 years, 1 month ago

          That's why they added Rebound as a sub catergory in the rules. Read them!

    2. Harry the Hack
      5 years, 1 month ago

      That wasn't a rebound off the keeper. The keeper gave it a full bodied double punch

      1. Sanchit
        5 years, 1 month ago

        So if he just mildly touched it and someone scored, then Salah would get the assist?

        1. Harry the Hack
          5 years, 1 month ago

          it was not a rebound! geez dude. The keeper fully intended the ball to do that. A rebound is not controlled

          1. Sanchit
            5 years, 1 month ago

            So my question is, if Salah took the corner, and keeper hurriedly just parried away the ball without any control, and it was a faint touch , not a ver y hard one, and then Keita scored, would he then get the assist?

            1. Zalk
              5 years, 1 month ago

              Yes, as stated in the rules

    3. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Cross not shot.

      1. Sanchit
        5 years, 1 month ago

        How does FPL classify a cross or a shot?

        1. Zalk
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Like everyone else probably.

    4. Zalk
      5 years, 1 month ago

      This is from the fpl rules

      "Assists

      Assists are awarded to the player from the goal scoring team, who makes the final pass before a goal is scored. An assist is awarded whether the pass was intentional (that it actually creates the chance) or unintentional (that the player had to dribble the ball or an inadvertent touch or shot created the chance).

      If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded. Should a touch by an opposing player be followed by a defensive error by another opposing outfield player then no assist will be awarded. If the goal scorer loses and then regains possession, then no assist is awarded."

      1. Sanchit
        5 years, 1 month ago

        By these rules of 'intended destination', no rebounds off the keeper should ever be given as assists?

        1. Zalk
          5 years, 1 month ago

          I didn't copy the whole text. Why don't you just go read up on it instead?

    5. We Go Again
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Coz it wasn't a shot

      1. Sanchit
        5 years, 1 month ago

        How do you classify it as a shot or a cross?

        1. Rainer
          5 years, 1 month ago

          He wasn't shooting from a corner.

          1. Sanchit
            5 years, 1 month ago

            How does FPL know?

            Just want to clear up the rules, if this was a FK, would it have been given?

            1. Zalk
              5 years, 1 month ago

              No. If it was a freekick 1cm from the corner spot and the situation played out exactly the same, then no assist. This since he crossed the ball and the goalkeeper significantly altered the intended destination of the ball.

        2. Zalk
          5 years, 1 month ago

          A shot is on goal, a cross is not

          1. Burger
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Ah so shots off target are corners, thanks for clearing that up.

            1. Zalk
              5 years, 1 month ago

              That's not how it works, no. Nothing cleared up.

          2. Sanchit
            5 years, 1 month ago

            If a person scores from a rebound from on a off target shot, he won't get the assist?

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
              5 years, 1 month ago

              Well obviously there's some gray area, sometimes a cross turns into a shot like Traore earlier today

              Just need to use common sense, sometimes it's hard to tell and fpl will get it wrong

              In this case it isn't hard to tell that Salah crossed

              1. Sanchit
                5 years, 1 month ago

                So basically it's a gray area and someone manually decides it, right?

                1. Rainer
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  It's generally pretty clear the shot/cross situation.

                  Salah was never getting an assist for it.

                2. @persecuted_by_mods
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  Yes of course, we all know that. There's no way to get it right 100% of times, sometimes a cross can be deadlier than someone intending to shoot

                3. Zalk
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  Obviously someone has to manually devide it since it's impossible to know if some shots would have ended up on target or not. Fpl decides in this case.

        3. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Was it on target?

          1. Sanchit
            5 years, 1 month ago

            If a person scores from a rebound from on a off target shot, he won't get the assist?

            1. Harry the Hack
              5 years, 1 month ago

              stop calling it a rebound

              1. Sanchit
                5 years, 1 month ago

                A shoots/crosses the ball.
                Keeper touch.
                And then a goal.

                Should A get an assist?
                Or does it depend on if the shot was on or off target?
                Or if the keeper was in control or not?
                If yes, then where are these mentioned in the rules?

                1. Harry the Hack
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  the eye test is enough to tell you.
                  will it change how you pick players?
                  good luck dude

                2. Harry the Hack
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  let me give you another scenario.
                  A has a shot.
                  Defender claims ball and kicks it away.
                  B goes in gets the ball and scores

                  Would you still want an assist for A? It's pretty similar to this scenario

                  1. Sanchit
                    5 years, 1 month ago

                    Exactly the problem we have.
                    If it's a rebound from a keeper, they award an assist, but if it's a rebound from a goal line clearance from a defender, they don't?

                    1. Zalk
                      5 years, 1 month ago

                      They do, that's why Marcal got the assist against Watford.

                    2. Zalk
                      5 years, 1 month ago

                      Everything is described in the rules.

    6. FPL Brains
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      As much as I'd love the assist, it wasn't an assist.

  2. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Members area shows Gilmour should have 2 baps. Is that correct or incorrect?

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      FPL have been quick and right with the BPS this season.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Depends if FPL work out the deduction for King.

      1. tommo1989
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Should there be a deduction for King? He’s currently on 28 and Gilmour 27

  3. Firmino
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Jammy points everywhere...

  4. Nomar
    5 years, 1 month ago

    At least we know Norwich are the whipping boys at the moment. Target players who have them next.

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Rondon time!

    2. Isca Extremadura
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Everton face Norwich in GW6

    3. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe even Digne will actually get something for once! 😆

      1. Nomar
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Nah. Not unless I sell his useless ass beforehand.

      2. Bucky Barnes
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Not until I transfer him out, only then will he haul

  5. dshv
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Choose

    1.Torres to sarr
    2.Ayling to livramento

    (Sanchz foster
    Taa shaw tsimi ayling marcal
    Salah greenwood torres raphinha benrahma
    Cr7 antonio obafemi)

  6. Caleb's Kitties
    5 years, 1 month ago

    So far i'm loving my GW4 WC budget mid of sarr traore gray which also enables salah lukaku CR7 TAA shaw and antonio 🙂

    1. FPL Brains
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I did the same, Traore is going to go in a few weeks at this rate though.

  7. jack88
    5 years, 1 month ago

    There is an Universal FPL law :

    Give a player at least 5 gw. Dont bring and change him if he blanks 1 match. They wont score every single match unless they are salah, lukaku Ronaldo

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      5? Bit of a stretch no?

      1. jack88
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Example toney, sarr so far

        1. Rainer
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Convenient examples... Traore?

          1. FPL Brains
            • Has Moderation Rights
            5 years, 1 month ago

            This ^

    2. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      5 years, 1 month ago

      5 is too much. 3 to 4 maybe

  8. Pep Roulette
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Hey fam

    A. Odegaard to Gallagher for free (as planned)

    B. Save FT

  9. jay01
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Gutted i got rid of Digne for Semedo
    .
    Need to play my own game not all this xG xA stuff

    1. FPL Brains
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Semedo is a three week play minimum, don't worry too much dude.

  10. Paulie Walnuts
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Sanchez -> Ramsdale 1ft?

  11. Baberto
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I think i saw on some app the the second goal was assisted by Dennis. Was the app wrong or something happened?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Sofascore

      1. Baberto
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yup. I wasn't sure if you could take names.

    2. Ragabolly
      5 years, 1 month ago

      wrong

      1. Baberto
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Ouh! Okay. Thanks.

  12. FPL Brains
    • Has Moderation Rights
    5 years, 1 month ago

    How I've managed to scramble together 50 points (when bonuses and subs are accounted for) is beyond me.

    I was on about 6 points with 7 players at one point.

    1. Nomar
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Salah cap?

      1. FPL Brains
        • Has Moderation Rights
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah man, him White, Sarr saved it.

  13. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    5 years, 1 month ago

    51 with Sanchez, Lukaku, Ronaldo left. Any good?

    1. Nomar
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Pathetic attempt at a humble brag

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        5 years, 1 month ago

        It wasn't. I normally check it on Livefpl but not loading. Super frustrated as I shifted Sarr and James to Jota and Williams last minute on WC.

    2. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Nearly the same! See below

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      5 years, 1 month ago

      38 with Bissoma subbing on for Benrhama (if he is out) Mendy, Shaw, Duffy, Gray, Lukaku and Ronaldo to go.

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Nice. 60 at least!

    4. Over Midwicket
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Lol.

  14. Nomar
    5 years, 1 month ago

    At least I have Gilmour and Tsimikas coming off my bench.

  15. Dthinger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    58 with Ronaldo Bruno Sanchez to go. I’ll take that at this point

    1. dshv
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Great man..

    2. Warby84
      5 years, 1 month ago

      55 -8 with Ronaldo Shaw Duffy to go.. 58 is great..

  16. Nightcrawler
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Very unexpected 22 points from Tierney, Livramento and Odegaard.

    58 with 4 to go

    We MOVE!

  17. Weeb Kakashi
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Need Sanchez Shaw and Greenwood to blank tomorrow for a green Arrow.

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Time to accept your faith?

  18. I Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Unsure why I overlooked Sarr for an Everton mid.

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He didn't score last GW 😉

  19. Nate(U)dog(ie)
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Left Sanchez, Sarr and Semedo on the bench to make myself feel better at the end of the GW with Antonio and Llorente out and assuming Matip was rested (which he was) so Livramento in for him. Chuffed, now have to hope Lukaku(C) over Salah wasn't as bad a call as it might look like it'll end up being now.

    1. Over Midwicket
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Cool.

    2. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Same, need Lukaku to go big again. Bit of a jammy haul for Salah, took his chances well but wasn't involved that much.

      1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Didn't see it yet but sounds like typical Salah!

  20. N00B
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Would you take 5 points from Livramento or you hope Benrahma will be fit ?

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      5.

    2. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      probably the 5, but you'd want Benny to be fit for next GW

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      5 years, 1 month ago

      My situation too, prob would rather have Benrahma play just

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Take the 5 and leg it

  21. Miguel Sanchez
    5 years, 1 month ago

    48 with Sanchez, James, Doucoure, Ronaldo, Lukaku and Benrahma (or 5 points) to go.

    1. Over Midwicket
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Nice.

  22. Weeb Kakashi
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Leaning towards holding Bamford and Jimenez. Antonio is tempting. Have Semedo too.

    Wolves play Newcastle in 2 weeks. Might hold till then and ship later.

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Doing the same I think. They both are just so due.

  23. The 12th Man
    5 years, 1 month ago

    CAZOO getting some coverage in this game.

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Still don’t know what it is

      1. The 12th Man
        5 years, 1 month ago

        OnLine Car sales company.

  24. F4L
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else watch the Liverpool game? Gallagher put in another solid performance today, but if you have to pick between him and Zaha, who are you choosing (forget the 1.3mil price difference for now)? Does Zaha being on pens sway it (albeit Gallagher on set pieces)?

    1. Over Midwicket
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Gallagher

      1. F4L
        5 years, 1 month ago

        fair enough

  25. Over Midwicket
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Raphinha to Sarr anyone? Kneejerky but Raph could be injured and Sarr has NEW which is too good to ignore. He has hattrick potential, Raph doesn't and Leeds look awful.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Sarr won't play Norwich every GW.

      1. Over Midwicket
        5 years, 1 month ago

        NEW, lee then reassess. Like I said, he has hattrick potential. The other 5.5-6.5 don't.

    2. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      it's not really a kneejerk to get Sarr in, but it's hard to justify with Watford's fixtures after the next 2.

      1. Over Midwicket
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Give him the next 2 then look for an alternative?

        1. F4L
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Definitely an option.

    3. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Seems you've made your mind up.

      1. Over Midwicket
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Not at all but just annoyed I got him out on WC.

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I don't think it's worth it, I have Sarr but knew it was going to be short term and won't keep him for too much longer but unless Raphinha's injury is really serious, I'll be keeping him for longer. That being said Leeds' form in front of goal is a problem

    5. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      If confirmed out Sarr would be my choice pre WC in week 8 so would get Norwich and Leeds games from him

  26. Nightcrawler
    5 years, 1 month ago

    4.5 striker to Dennis for free?

    4th and 5th mids are Raphina and Odegaard so shd not be a benching headache

  27. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Repost bottomed-
    Any Leicester fans around ??? Is Mendy going to be around tomorrow?? Just realised I put him I front if Livramento thinking Livramento would get 0 haha damn

  28. gilean
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Im considering taking out Torres for Sarr instead of Benrahma out. Torres has 2 difficult fixtures next and is a bigger rotation risk. Benrahma has Leeds and Brentford next. Good or bad move?

    1. Rainer
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds good if Benrahma is fit.

    2. LSK
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I’m thinking the same.

  29. Miniboss
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Players with * have real or potential injury or are out from squad. Time to wildcard?

    Sanchez Virginia*
    TAA Shaw Duffy Tierney* Ayling*
    Salah Torres Jota Benrahma* Raphinha*
    CR7 Antonio Perica

    2fts, 0.6itb

    1. Miniboss
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Forgot Perica*

    2. LSK
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No need with 2 frees. Maybe you’ll have 1 or 2 out, but I doubt they’ll all be out. Wait for news.

  30. Bartowski
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Possible Wildcard team:

    Schmeical 4m

    James TAA White Livra Williams

    Salah Sarr Odegarrd Gray 4.5

    Ronaldo Antonio Lukaku

    Any glaring anomalies?