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All eyes will be on St James’ Park this afternoon as Newcastle United take on Tottenham Hotspur in the first game since the Saudi-led takeover.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

The Magpies’ are given a boost by the return of talisman Callum Wilson (£7.3m), who has been out since Gameweek 3 with a thigh injury.

Jamaal Lascelles (£4.4m) also comes back into the starting XI, with Federico Fernandez (£4.4m) dropping to the bench.

As for Tottenham, they are unchanged from the side that beat Aston Villa in Gameweek 7.

That means another start for Son Heung-min (£10.1m), despite suggestions that he wouldn’t be involved due to a positive Covid-19 test.


GAMEWEEK 8 LINE-UPS

Newcastle XI: Darlow, Manquillo, Lascelles, Clark, Ritchie, Hayden, Longstaff, Willock, Joelinton, Saint-Maximin, Wilson

Subs: Gillespie, Schar, Shelvey, Lewis, Hendrick, Fernandez, Fraser, Murphy, Gayle

Spurs XI: Lloris, Royal, Romero, Dier, Reguillon, Skipp, Hojbjerg, Ndombele, Moura, Son, Kane

Subs: Gollini, Sanchez, Tanganga, Davies, Winks, Alli, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Gil

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  1. ☈☾
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Last few mins for a Son counter attacking goal

    1. Thomas Magnum
      5 years, 7 days ago

      How many of your 7 predicted goals did Son and Ronaldo score this week?

      1. ☈☾
        5 years, 7 days ago

        12

  2. jason_ni
    5 years, 7 days ago

    I'd really love newcastle to get relegated.
    Absolutely love it.
    Never had any real issues with them before last week, but would be a laugh to throw a short term spanner in the saudi plan.
    Richest club in the world in the championship.

    1. ☈☾
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Won't happen though

      1. jason_ni
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Unliekly, but not beyond the realm of possibilities.

        1. AC/DC AFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 7 days ago

          It's a possibility and not without precedent.

          A panic buy in January may not help.

          In reality they can shore up at the back and probably could limp over the line without splashing loads of cash under the Ashley way.

        2. Mr. O'Connell
          5 years, 7 days ago

          I don't even think it's that unlikely, but I don't think it would change much.

    2. Nomar
      5 years, 7 days ago

      They would just buy their way out of the Championship.

      1. jason_ni
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Yeah they would, but anything to delay the inevitable is a plus for me.

      2. Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 7 days ago

        If it was that simple QPR would be in the prem

        1. Crunchie
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Mark Hughes favourite for the new job 🙂

    3. Miniboss
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Haha that didn’t come to my mind but would be hilarious. Coutinho, Ramsey and the gang in the Championship.

    4. The Philosopher
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Think the club's transformation will be tremendous in January. Won't get them Europe or anything, but will surely avoid relegation imo.

      1. jason_ni
        5 years, 7 days ago

        You'd imagine so, but football is a funny game. They could be in a bad way come jan, and throwing a load of new talent together, there's no guarantee of it coming together.

        1. The Philosopher
          5 years, 7 days ago

          True. But I'm talking more in terms of management. Think they bring in a top manager who takes them over the line, then splashes the cash in the summer.

    5. TheTinman
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Bitter, F U

      1. jason_ni
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Bitter? Absolutely not? I'd honestly give up supporting my club if the Saudis bought us over.
        Even as it is, I'm losing interest in the game, the whole European super league, and state run clubs. The game is gone.

        1. AC/DC AFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 7 days ago

          I agree when it's Middle Eastern sovereign wealth v Russian money against the New York stock exchange and Chinese and other far east billionaires it kind of distorts the playing field somewhat.

    6. Joey Tribbiani
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I would like it too, just because I dont like the idea of throwing money for solving problems

    7. el polako
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Professional football is rotten as a whole, either accept it or get involved in Sunday league where people try to break your legs more often than at football.

      1. el polako
        5 years, 7 days ago

        *more often than actually play football.

    8. Bushwhacker
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Its quite possible, there are huge issues at the club, not just Bruce but the team is awful. Sam Alladyce is no longer a guarantee of staying up and money or no that’s what the Newcastle board have to look at as the priority. There’s only so much they can spend in January - there’s a very small pool of players who are going to want to go there. You can have all the money in the World but if no one wants to play for you it doesn’t help.

  3. Wirtzle Gummidge
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Oh Dier Oh Dier

  4. F4L
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Dier has Son captain, he wants the goal winning BPS

  5. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Tempted by swapping A with B.

    Talk me out of it!

    A) Dias Foden Lukaku Antonio
    B) White Son Vardy Jesus

    1. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I’m on A and would pick A again if given the choice of either.

  6. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Rival still has Dier

    1. FPL Theorist
      5 years, 7 days ago

      He's still priced at 4.6. Rose in price early on and hasn't dropped.

  7. ☈☾
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Son on 2 baps

    1. Duke Silver ☑
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Disgusting

    2. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Wonderful

    3. Bushwhacker
      5 years, 7 days ago

      For?!?

  8. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Son sneaks 2, was on 0 before the OG

    3 - Kane (42)
    2 - Son, Wilson (32)
    Manquillo (31)
    Ndombele (27)
    Højbjerg (26)
    Reguilón (21)

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Fix

      1. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Haha, I guess it's because the OG made it that Son's goal was the game winning one (+3bps) - annoying as a non-owner!

    2. The Philosopher
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Because Son was crying

    3. Amartey Partey
      5 years, 7 days ago

      He was on 2 before the own goal and Wilson was on 1.

  9. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Salah (C) outscores Son (C) as expected.

    1. ☈☾
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Son (C) + Salah outscores Salah (C) + whatever mid you had

      1. Ze_Austin
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Err. The other mid is Son

        1. ☈☾
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Not many own Salah (C) + Son

        2. AC/DC AFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Or McGinn, KDB, Silva, Tielemans etc.

          1. ☈☾
            5 years, 7 days ago

            Who the hell even owns them lol

      2. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 7 days ago

        You okay?

      3. Amsterhammer
        5 years, 7 days ago

        That's not how maths works if you own Son.

      4. Optimus.
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Have Salah(c) and Greenwood

  10. Stimps
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Any of these worth a hit?

    A) Jimi, Sarr -> Son, Hwang
    B) Antonio, Sarr -> Vardy, ESR

  11. Firminooooo
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Anyone else need to take -8 to fix their team after WC?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 7 days ago

      -12

    2. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I could do with a -8 every week to fix my idiotic decisions...

    3. The Philosopher
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Scored 29 after my first WC last season. Took a couple hits over the next 4 GWs and rose ranks by 50%.
      Hold on. The team is probably better for the long term than you think right now.

    4. Bushwhacker
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Saved up 2 transfers for this week and looking at a -12 to just suck it up.

    5. ANGRY PERSON
      5 years, 7 days ago

      -16

    6. Oooo Matron
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Yeah, backed Maupay & Trossard v Norwich & now I need them out! Debating merits of Vardy v Son at the moment.

    7. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Naa saving free transfer

  12. Quality Quality Qualit
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Shelvey -2 makes me wonder what is the lowest (worst) ever FPL score?

    1. el polako
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I think Bednarek had own goal, red card and few conceded.

    2. ☈☾
      5 years, 7 days ago

      -7 Bednarek

    3. The Philosopher
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Bednarek's -7 last season has to be up there

    4. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Bednarek says hi

    5. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      -7 Benderek.

      Man United 9 - 0 Southampton
      60 mins (+2)
      9 conceded (-4)
      Own goal (-2)
      Red card (-3)

    6. dadoune30
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Richard Dunne -6pts..
      Red card in an 8 goal defeat for City against Boro

      1. dadoune30
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Oh yeah Bednarek last year

    7. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Bednarek was legendary as people actually had him in their teams!

      1. Ze_Austin
        5 years, 7 days ago

        ...or off the bench

        1. Sun Jihai
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Yeah for some it was the most dreaded Man City line-up ever the following day!

    8. Optimus.
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Jonathan Walters must be up there, 2 own goals and a peno miss Vs Chelsea I think

  13. No Kane No Gain
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Benrahma to Mbuemo a good transfer?!

    1. Bushwhacker
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Sideways for me.

    2. Ginola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Longer term: yes. Next gw: sideways.

    3. The Philosopher
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Could be a great move depending on what you do with the remaining funds.

    4. yousunkmybattleship
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I’m going to after next week

    5. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Yup

  14. Eze Really?
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Oh Jonjo. heart on sleeve and brain up your backside.

  15. Oooo Matron
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Thoughts for a - 4?

    Maupay, Trossard & Antonio to Townsend, Vardy, Toney?

    Current team:
    Ramsdale
    Trent Cancelo James Azpi Livramento
    Salah Raphina Mbuemo
    Antonio Lukaku

    Subs: Foster, Allan, Trossard, Maupay

    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      looks solid move

    2. Il Capitano
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Sure

    3. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Not sure Antonio to Vardy is worth a hit.

  16. Nightf0x
    5 years, 7 days ago

    alonso to

    a) azpi (have christensen)
    b) cancelo
    c) pinock/henry/janson (gw10 can get taa for amarty (have matip))

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      B but wait until midweek games

  17. Nightcrawler
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Would be awkward if newc got relegated

    1. el polako
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Then you would have a whole bunch of very good players saying that they don't mind playing in Championship because they are excited about the money... I mean project 😉

      1. Nightcrawler
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Would be fun to watch. Remember the liles of del piero in serie b when juve got demoted

    2. Hairy Potter
      5 years, 7 days ago

      TBH some of the most fun seasons during the Ashley era where in the Championship.

  18. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Tierney Chilwell Antonio
    Or White James Jesus

    1. Amartey Partey
      5 years, 7 days ago

      A White Jesus James

  19. Baps Hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Bookies odds:

    Lukaku to score 1.53, to brace 3.2 (hattie 8.5)
    Salah to score 2.1, to brace 6.5 (hattie 23)

    C Lukaku decided. I am chasing so much after bad luck and surprisingly poor decision making that FOMO has to be forgotten, cannot play like a sheep. I blame women and real life interfering more important things.

    1. No Kane No Gain
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Certain lukaku starts after Malmo on Wednesday night?!

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Loads of things could possibly happen for sure - he might get a bad injury midweek, he might get struck by lightning, he might get abducted by aliens, or he might even just be rested. Same with Salah.

        Overall though, taking all those factors and more into account, the bookies are estimating his probability of scoring as significantly higher than Salah's is the point

      2. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 7 days ago

        He won't play vs Malmö. I doubt that he even travels, but could be impact sub. Tuchel wants him to find his shooting boots vs Norwich, since Norwich has been tighter lately.

    2. ☈☾
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Lukaku will be benched

      1. No Kane No Gain
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Benched against who

    3. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      The Value is certainly with Salah there then of it was a market I’d bet on. Given the form of the two and the defence form of the opposition teams I’m not sure how the bookies have come to that conclusion!

  20. bjarnia87
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Give Lukaku one more week against Brentford or get Vardy in now?

    Have too loose shaw so it will cost me -4

    1. THE Wild Rover
      5 years, 7 days ago

      You are a week late

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      He has Norwich 😉 Cannot sell now. After his hattie you don't want to.

    3. Reedy
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Does Shaw know you call him that?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Ha

    4. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      This is all kinds of wrong.

  21. Baps Hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Captain poll says Salah with enormous margin. It can't stay that high imo.

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Reply fail to my own post above 🙁

  22. FOO FIGHTER
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Quite impressed with my 61 all out and includes deduction of my -12. My GW7 team would have struggled to keep up this GW especially with Lukaku and Ronaldo blanking again.

    Rank jump from 976k to 784k. Had DCL as part of my -12 as well.

    Hits are not always that bad.

    1. THE Wild Rover
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Agreed re hits. Lol at your rank

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Hey, any green arrow after a hit that big is good 🙂

        1. THE Wild Rover
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Fair

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            5 years, 7 days ago

            But Arsenal and Palace to come so will see what happens tomorrow.

        2. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 7 days ago

          The season I lost top 10k with 1 pt I did better those weeks when I took hits 😉

          1. Baps Hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            5 years, 7 days ago

            One factor might be that when someone takes hits, he is usually pretty certain that those transfers are good. Players ditched are often either injured, in very bad form and/or have poor fixtures. Or something like that 😉

    2. Rio Angora Mohair
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Well played

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Congrats anyway!

    4. Thomas Magnum
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Well done. I remember how much stick you were getting from people for the hit, you probably outscored them in the end.

  23. tbos83
    5 years, 7 days ago

    A) Kane + Raph
    B) Jimi + Son

  24. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Transferring Ron to Rom would give me this for next week. Still holding WC and while would possibly ship out Sanchez Alonso Jota Benrahma Semedo think should hold longer

    A Team good enough
    B WC
    C Any additional transfer you would suggest for -4. Alonso to Azpilicueta possible but bench should cover no show by Alonso and big upside if plays Norwich

    Sanchez
    TAA Cancelo Alonso
    Salah Jota Raphinha Benrahma Mbeumo
    Lukaku Antonio

    Foster Livramento Semedo Scarlett

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Maybe see if Alonso plays midweek.

    2. GreennRed
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Alonso to Azpilicueta saves you the bother of wondering if Alonso or Chilwell start.

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      A) Livra vs Burnley can cover Alonso

      Alonso already dropped in price. If Chilly starts midweek, I'd keep Alonso. But even if Alonso starts keeping him one week might be a good idea. Chelsea kept cs, but that was pure luck.

  25. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Ron > rom -4 ????

    1. Rio Angora Mohair
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Romero, maybe...

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Only for Norwich right?

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 7 days ago

        For the next 3, then to Kane I think

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Happy to not own anymore.

        2. Pompel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          5 years, 7 days ago

          Sensible plan . Kane, Vardy, DCL, a few options unless he really finds form. Maybe go cheap and find funds for Son

          1. Thomas Magnum
            5 years, 7 days ago

            The question will be if money is no objection would it be best to go Kane or Son

            1. Pompel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              5 years, 7 days ago

              Yeah,need to give it a couple of weeks before jumping on

    3. GreennRed
      5 years, 7 days ago

      No.

  26. Joey Tribbiani
    5 years, 7 days ago

    no way Lukaku is actually going towards dropping 😀

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      He won’t drop as I have him.

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 7 days ago

        I see what you did there

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Crazy, love it though. Wouldn't mind picking him up cheaper.

    3. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      He stays for the next three baring injury so do the price drops even matter?

  27. bjarnia87
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Who to transfer inn for Shaw?

    Have Azpilicueta, TAA, (Coufal, Tsinikas)

    1. Geordie19
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Christensen?

    2. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      City

  28. Geordie19
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Azpili Cancelo Dias TAA
    Saka mbeumo Salah
    Toney Antonio Lukaku

    Would you start Raph or L’mento over anyone in this 11?

    1. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Very similar team to me bar 1-2 players. I’m playing Raph over Liv first sub.

  29. waltzingmatildas
    5 years, 7 days ago

    If you were wildcarding this week would you try and fit son in?

    1. caldracula
      5 years, 7 days ago

      Yes, gutted I got rid on wildcard. Couldn’t afford to risk him being available after hearing news he was out.

    2. Thomas Magnum
      5 years, 7 days ago

      I would although depends on who has to be sacrificed

  30. caldracula
    5 years, 7 days ago

    Wildcard was a bit of a waste, only made 4-5 changes due to having no funds and Ayling, Rudiger, Raph and Son apparently out. Son plays and scores, Dias gets a one pointer. Team is set up a bit better now and another green arrow but a bit frustrating never the less.

    1. Thomas Magnum
      5 years, 7 days ago

      You’ll be laughing if Dias starts and Cancelo is benched next week. As long as the team is set up pretty well then you’ve done all you can

      1. caldracula
        5 years, 7 days ago

        Not quite, I’ve got both! Had Cancelo from GW1 which was a touch though.