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Norwich City v Manchester United brings Saturday’s Premier League action to a close, with kick-off at Carrow Road at 17:30 GMT.

The team news is nice and simple for the visitors as Ralf Rangnick names an unchanged team from last weekend’s 1-0 win over Crystal Palace.

Cristiano Ronaldo was transferred in by just under 450,000 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers ahead of Friday’s deadline and is the second most-captained player of Gameweek 16.

Diogo Dalot and David de Gea also featured in the top 10 most transferred-in players of this current Gameweek.

Dean Smith has made five changes from Sunday’s defeat at Spurs, with Lukas Rupp, Dimitris Giannoulis, Ozan Kabak, Przemyslaw Placheta and Josh Sargent coming into the side.

Budget FPL defender Brandon Williams misses out as he is ineligible to face his parent club, while Ben Gibson, Pierre Lees-Melou, Adam Idah and Andrew Omobamidele also drop out of the side.

Dean Smith reported injury and illness issues concerning four unnamed players in his pre-match presser, and Gibson and Omobamidele are indeed not part of the matchday squad.

GAMEWEEK 16 LINE-UPS

Norwich City XI: Krul, Aarons, Hanley, Kabak, Giannoulis Rupp, Gilmour, Placheta, McLean, Sargent, Pukki.

Subs: Gunn, Byram, Dowell, Cantwell, Sorensen, Lees-Melou, Mumba, Idah, Tomkinson.

Manchester United XI: De Gea, Dalot, Lindelof, Maguire, Telles, McTominay, Fred, Bruno Fernandes, Sancho, Cristiano Ronaldo, Rashford.

Subs: Heaton, Henderson, Bailly, Jones, Greenwood, Lingard, Shaw, Van de Beek, Elanga

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  1. CRAZY TRAIN
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    68 with 2 to play. Nice green arrow

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Huge, congrats, rank now?

      1. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Still having a shocker of a season over all, but good gains in my ML’s

  2. WVA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    A. Reguilon to Tierney
    B. Sissoko to Bowen
    C. Scarlett to Dennis

    DDG
    TAA James Livra
    Salah Bilva Mount ESR
    Ronaldo King
    Steele Cancelo

    1. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      C prices going crazy

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        He's nowhere near rising yet....

        1. g40steve
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Gone up .5 or .6 in last two weeks

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      B probably the most logical move, but honestly fancy the Watford double up. Cheap as chips and could do well

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I would have said B was the least logical as Reguilon and Scarlett are definitely out for at least one more game, at least Sissoko can get me 2 points from the bench? Thanks though x

  3. Zenith UK
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    I could be in trouble here;

    DDG
    TAA, James, Rudiger
    Salah (c), Jota, Son, Bernardo, Bowen
    Antonio, Dennis

    Cancelo, Geldhart, Johnson

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Son out and you're sorted?

      1. Zenith UK
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        To whom though, only person catching my eye currently is Rashford

        1. WVA
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Mount looks great in a great team

          1. Zenith UK
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            He was the only guy I've been considering

          2. Zenith UK
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            I'm looking to lose all CHE assets in GW21

    2. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Wildcard maybe?

      1. Zenith UK
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Gone

        1. Stamford B
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Last week?

          1. Zenith UK
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            GW4 LUL

    3. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Why?

      1. Zenith UK
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Son doesn't play I have no bench effectively right now

    4. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      One hit

      Foden and Cash in for Son and Johnson

      Good luck choosing who to bench

  4. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Regret buying Ronaldo. Such a waste of funds. Need to sell after Brentford

    1. lilmessipran
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks, that was useful

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Lol I've said this all along

    3. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Didn't watch the game. (Middle of the night in my timezone). How did he play?

      1. Stamford B
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Nothing wrong with Ronaldo, it’s the service that’s the problem.

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          I think I agree. He would have braced if Rashford had been able to make a better pass. And there is nothing to do with the money. Son, Antonio perhaps, but are they any better?!?

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        He just passes it back to whoever passed to him or loses the ball. Goes to the wing, does some random skills, passes it backwards. United slow on the buildup though, so nothing worked

        1. Fish up a tree
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Still scored & missed a sitter. What other forwards aside Dennis are doing anything?

      3. Danno - Emre Canada
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Only finished an hr or so ago. Wasnt great tonight but not was the service to be honest.

    4. Ian J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      not happy with 9 points?

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Relieved more like

  5. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    LMS safety score currently 46 with autosubs.

    https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

    1. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers TM. No scraping for points to get me through this week again, beautiful.

  6. _Gunner
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    With the below backline:

    TAA James Cancelo* Reguilion* Livra

    What is the best move to do with 1FT and 0 itb?

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Need to see the rest of your team, Reguilon to Tierney is what I'm considering

      1. _Gunner
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Am already considering this move yes.
        But will Spurs match be called off?

        1. WVA
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Sounds like it will be off and I have Son Reguilon Scarlett so can almost guarantee it

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Do you need to play 4 GW? Risky approach: Keep both Cancelo and Reg and play the week after. If must, transfer out Reg.

      1. _Gunner
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Do you think Spurs match will not go on?

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Not sure the latest, could be off but I maybe wrong

  7. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA James Livra Dalot
    Salah Jota Bernardo ESR
    Antonio Wilson

    Raya Hwang Mbeumo Cancelo

    3.2 ITB, which one to go first? A. Wilson B. Hwang C. Mbeumo

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      B to Dennis

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Thx, missed the boat with Dennis ... could be the next James

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          No, you haven't

          1. Magic Zico
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            😆 really? I will pick King ...

            1. Ze_Austin
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 3 months ago

              For your own sanity in this game, just go with the crowd when it's obvious, and against the crowd only when it's obvious

              Differential for the sake of it is dangerous this season, as the template has been roaring strong since GW1

              1. Magic Zico
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 3 months ago

                Yeah but I don't like it ... will go somewhere else

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      B is an easy transfer to Dennis

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Ta, what about Watkins instead? Dennis is not differential enough, i.e. missed the train.

        1. WVA
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah I like Watkins too but Dennis is better value

        2. Ian J
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          pick the players that will score the most points..that's your differential. Dennis is in form and his team has good fixtures. Don't make FPL more complicated

          1. Magic Zico
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            The most points of course but 'past performance does not predict the future' ... he's in form and I am not sure it's sustainable

  8. Lord of Ings
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Gundogan to foden sound good?
    Will start vs Leeds and probably Newcastle as well since jack grealish has been horrible

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      To Bilva

  9. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Which is the best option (2FTs available)?

    Vardy + ESR to Watkins + ??

    a) Mount
    b) Foden
    c) Bernardo Silva
    d) another midfielder up to 9.1M

    1. Lord of Ings
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I’m going foden

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      C then A

    3. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Why are you selling ESR

    4. One for All
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      C

  10. EL tridente
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Which combo would you rather have?
    A) De Gea, White and Allan
    B) Sanchez, Williams and Gray/Mcgin

    1. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      B with Gray.

  11. Il Capitano
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    1FT 2.9 ITB

    Guaita
    TAA James White Livra
    Salah Jota Bernardo ESR
    Vardy King

    Foster - Brownhill Cancelo* Toney*

    Season's gone stagnant, 1 green arrow in 10 GWs. Pencilled in Vardy > Ronaldo for this week, any better moves going? Maybe Vardy + Toney > Antonio + Watkins (-4) and bench White?

  12. CoKane & Zohores
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Jota cameo locks Raphinha on my bench. Reece James with two zeros in a row. At least I have Rudiger and Dennis. 57 with Guaita, Wilson and Antonio to play. -40% red arrow so far.

    1. chaser123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Very similar boat to me. I think we were right to bench Raphinha weren’t we?

      1. CoKane & Zohores
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Based on fixtures yes. After bonus I'm now down 62% and out of the top 10k :(.

      2. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah. Can't predict penalties

  13. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    If I didn’t have issues elsewhere (who doesn’t) I would lose Reece James for sure. The guy has been a major troll for me. Sure guys like Kante Kovacic out probably hurts but with Liv and blanks to come I’m just about done

    1. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No way.

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Since I got James in he's got me 1 0 0 0 AND I sold Rudiger for Reguilon in 15 because I didn't want double Chelsea defence

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Terrible feeling right
        I sold him for Chilwell the week he got 21 then brought him back when chilly got injured and has been FPL useless since

  14. FirminoIsBetterThanYou
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Guaita
    TAA - Rudiger - White
    Salah(C) - Foden - Jota - Mount - B.Silva
    King - Watkins
    Foster - Livra - Gelhardt - Cancelo
    G2G?

  15. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    James to Cash on the cards for me

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I was thinking Targett in for Alonso

      but can afford Cash too, so why are u going Cash over Targett ??

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Cash is absolutely nailed, might get one rest all season when fit

        Targett competes with Young, and he's probably second choice. This is especially important as Ings is back, pushing Ings or Watkins to the wing and thus Young back to compete with Targett

        1. DavvaMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Not a bad shout, his stats are fairly decent as well.

        2. ZimZalabim
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          cheers for that, I didnt consider the rotation factor, probably go for Cash as well then

          Any consideration to Konsa ?

          1. Ze_Austin
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            He's the only nailed one who isn't on 4 yellows, so I might go there instead

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I like this move, am waiting for my available FT

    3. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Just saw the 4 YC's for Cash

      Annoying

      1. DavvaMC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Damn, when will they reset?

    4. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Decent besides 4YC
      Might look at Coufal

  16. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Guess I have very limited chance of Raphinha coming off the bench with just Antonio to play!?

    1. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Snowball in Hell's chance

  17. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Play Livra(CP) or ESR(WH) this week?

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      ESR

    2. Il Capitano
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      ESR

  18. pablo discobar
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is Firminio back? Thinking of doing Jota to Mount

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      back in light training

      Id say hes atleast a week or 2 away from starting

    2. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No, he isn't

      Even if he is, Jota starts vs Newcastle. It's either Salah or Mané who'll rest, possibly Mané

      I'm not sure Mount starts the next 2, with Pulisic and Ziyech both fit

    3. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Just back in training. Jota played a while today, should be good for Newcastle.

  19. ZimZalabim
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    who to sell for Bowen ?

    Jota, Foden, ESR

    will need to sell Alonso for funds if its ESR

    1. The Mighty Hippo
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I think you have to leave it for now. I wouldn't get rid of Jota or Foden and the ESR option doesn't look worth it if you've got to ditch Alonso.

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        yeah thats what im thinking at the moment that I shd just leave it this week and hope ESR is fit to start.

        But for gw18 I think it makes sense will be for free then, and double Chelsea def seems too much atm.

    2. Silva’s Left Nut
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      you gotta at least wait for the west ham game to play out. if bowen blanks you can think about waiting to bring him in since his next fixture is away at arsenal

  20. Hktrader88
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ramsdale

    TAA - (Cancelo) - James - Alonso - White

    Salah - Son - Jota - Mbuemo - (Brownhill)

    Ronaldo - Dennis - (4.4)

    1FT 0.3ITB

    Really struggling to decide the best way forward. The squad is thin. City mids would be nice but I don't think my team can accommodate any more rotation risks.

    Should I move Alonso or Son to free up funds?

    Alonso + Mbuemo to Davies + Bowen
    Or
    Son + 4.4 to Bowen + Watkins (could also do Antonio but not sure if I want to double up) leaves me 0.8m to upgrade Mbuemo if I ever have an FT.

    Both moves require a -4, but can't see how to improve my team with 1FT thanks to Cancelos ban.

  21. _Gunner
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Who is a better pick?

    A- Tierney
    B- Cash

    1. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Cash for the game time. Tierney for the hauls. If you can cover Tierney no-shows from your bench then A, otherwise B.

  22. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA James Alonso
    Salah Jota Bilva Gallagher Raphinha
    Antonio King

    Foster Livramento Davis Cancelo

    1FT, 5.0itb

    1. Raphinha >> Bowen
    2. Livramento >> Dalot (then do 1. GW18)
    3. Save FT

    Cheers guys

    1. FCSB
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      1. Raphinha / Gallagher*

  23. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    James 1 pt in 4 GW’s. That’s some going!

    1. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      But he only played in 3 of them

  24. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    616 mins, 1G 1A - Roberts
    134 mins, 1G 1A - Gelhardt

    Come on Bielsa, only one of these two should be starting.

  25. banskt
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    2FT and 3 red flags in my team: Vardy*, Duffy* and Cancelo*. I can buy Watkins and afford a playing bench. Or, I can buy Ronaldo but go in GW17 with a non-playing bench.

    (1) Play Watkins + Dalot.
    Bench: Gallagher, Livramento, Cancelo*
    (will have 3.1m to upgrade Gallagher -> Foden / Mount next week and enter xmas period with a bench of Bowen, Dalot, Livramento)

    (2) Play Ronaldo + Livramento
    Bench: Douglas Luiz, Duffy*, Cancelo*
    (will have no money left and enter xmas period with a bench of Luiz, Livramento, Duffy)

    My current team is 85% template, but scoring the points:
    Ramdsdale
    TAA, Rudiger, Livramento, Duffy*, Cancelo*
    Salah, Jota, Bernardo, Bowen, Gallagher
    Vardy*, Antonio, Dennis

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Take -4 and sort it out somehow? Gallagher, Vardy, Antonio to ???

      1. banskt
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I don't want to sell Antonio before his nice fixtures.

        Option 1 will sort it out nicely. For option 2, I may have to take a hit for the bench, say Duffy -> Goode.

        1. banskt
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Also, selling Antonio will not cover for the no-shows of Duffy and Cancelo. Still will only have single player on the bench.

        2. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          That's your choice. I have some sort 5-5-1 formation with Dennis and Broja, but picking the right mids is problematic.

  26. putana
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    64 with vardy and benteke left and i will still most liekly be goign out first round of the cup lol

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      You are not lucky enough 🙁

    2. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not quite sure, because Vardy and Benteke both can return a big haul tomorrow playing against NEW and EVE respectively.

  27. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is Jota a must?

    1. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Only, Salah (C) is a must. Everything else "depends".

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Trent sends his regards

  28. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Sell either if these for Bowen? if so which one?

    A. Gallagher
    B. ESR

    1. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Gallagher

    3. One for All
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    4. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      cheers all

  29. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    6 of my 8 players scored points but I'm still down by 70,000 (-8 in hits didn't help)

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      -8 that resulted benching Dennis didn't work for me either.

  30. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is Raphinha to Bowen still a good move this week? (Exact money so can’t wait long)

    1. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yes

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Good move but Bowen is still play tomorrow ... mind the risk

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        *to play