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Following the postponement of Brentford v Manchester United, Gameweek 17 now gets underway with Norwich City v Aston Villa at 19.45 GMT, followed by Manchester City v Leeds United 15 minutes later.

Gianni and Seb will be following the action in the embedded video below and over on our YouTube channel.

At Carrow Road, Dean Smith makes four changes from Gameweek 16, with Ben Gibson, Brandon Williams, Jacob Sorensen and Todd Cantwell coming in for Grant Hanley, Dimitris Giannoulis, Lukas Rupp and Josh Sargent.

Steven Gerrard, meanwhile, makes just the one change, with Emiliano Buendia replacing the injured Marvelous Nakamba, who may miss the rest of the 2021/22 season after suffering a knee injury against Liverpool at the weekend.

As a result, Ollie Watkins leads the line once again, with Danny Ings having to settle for a place on the bench.

Notably, Jed Steer, Morgan Sanson, Anwar El Ghazi and Keinan Davis are all absent from the matchday squad, with Gerrard revealing in his pre-match press conference that two first-team players had tested positive for Covid-19.

Meanwhile, Pep Guardiola makes four changes, as John Stones comes in at full-back for the suspended Joao Cancelo, while further forward, Kevin De Bruyne, Riyad Mahrez and Phil Foden are in for Ilkay Gundogan, Raheem Sterling and Gabriel Jesus, all of whom drop to the bench.

Kyle Walker surprisingly misses out, with reports suggesting he is short of full fitness.

For Leeds, they name an unchanged XI, as Liam Cooper, Kalvin Phillips and Patrick Bamford remain out.

GAMEWEEK 17 LINE-UPS

Norwich City XI: Krul, Aarons, Kabak, Gibson, Williams, Sorensen, Gilmour, McLean, Placheta, Cantwell, Pukki

Subs: Gunn, Byram, Tomkinson, Mumba, Giannoulis, Rowe, Idah, Dowell, Dickson-Peters

Aston Villa XI: Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Buendia, Young, Watkins

Subs: Marschall, Tuanzebe, Hause, Iroegbunam, Chukwuemeka, Philogene-Bidace, Trezeguet, Archer, Ings


Manchester City XI: Ederson, Stones, Dias, Laporte, Zinchenko, Rodri, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish

Subs: Steffen, Ake, Sterling, Gundogan, Jesus, Fernandinho, Egan-Riley, Palmer, Wilson-Esbrand

Leeds United XI: Meslier, Shackleton, Ayling, Llorente, Firpo, Forshaw, Dallas, Raphinha, Roberts, Harrison, James

Subs: Klaesson, Gelhardt, Cresswell, Drameh, Summerville, Greenwood, Klich, McCarron, Jenkins

  1. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    FPL - the game that keeps kicking you in the nether region. Not really enjoyable at the moment, luck's got to change sooner or later.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Don't worry about it. I've kicked myself in the nuts this week & all you can do is laugh and move on to the next GW. Short turnaround at least.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I told you not to do it!

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          It's true. I didn't see your reply to my later reply, did refresh a few times 😀

          1. The Suspended One
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Shoulda told myself to take the hit for foden :eyeroll:

    2. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      True that

    3. jay01
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I did Ronaldo to Dennis instead of Watkins if that helps ://

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Dennis hasn't played yet

  2. JONALDINHO
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Mahrez sold Foden in his FPL side

  3. Ady87
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is Foden sleeping with Mahrezs mrs? What’s going on?

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      He's always been like this

    2. Guru Mediation
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Mahrez is rubbish, it was ever thus. Zero vision

  4. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Vardy to Laca?

    Possibly better next 2 games then Watkins

  5. Mr. O'Connell
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Phew. Dodged a bullet there.

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      With what may I ask?

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Only owned Bernardo tonight.

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Ohhh sarcasm then haha, touché

          1. Mr. O'Connell
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            City could have had 20

  6. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    May stats win again tomorrow with a King return...

  7. veedub1989
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    What to do with Vardy?

    Have Dennis and Antonio.

    1. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Watkins, easy

  8. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Was Bsilva subbed as he was injured or just rested ???

    1. dark91
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No word yet but most likely just a rest like Rodri

      1. the dom 1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Ok thanks. Fingers crossed just rested

    2. jdp219
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Saw a comment saying he missed a sitter and Pep was mad.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Was it Peps comment? Otherwise, irrelevant

  9. dansmusen
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    PLZ DON´T REST SALAH (Bilva VC)

    1. Old Bull
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I’ve fallen in that trap too

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Salah playing 0 is very unlikely.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Is it bad to hope for a covid outbreak then?

        1. Rainer
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          LOL

          Not hope for it, like injuries, but if it was to happen...

    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Salah cap
      Jota vc

      Still want Salah to start

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Please rest Salah (Foden vc)!

        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Agreed!

        2. TomSaints
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          X1000

        3. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Salah will look at Fodens points and laugh mate, you're safe

    4. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Same here. Mo will play imo

    5. Lilac Breasted Roller
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      that would make this shitshow even worse

    6. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Please rest Salah totally. Ollie VC. Won’t happen though. May not start but will pointlessly come on towards end of game Liverpool already comfortably winning.

      That’s my prediction anyway.

      Saying that, I would like him to do well as ML has not captained him.

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Salah does not like being benched at all - it won't happen. He doesn't like being subbed either but that might.

  10. Lord of Ings
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    As good as Mahrez is he’s so unbelievably selfish
    That’s probably the main reason Jesus plays ahead of him because there’s a definite gulf in quality between the 2 players

  11. andre_c
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Swear Mahrez rarely passed to Foden this game

  12. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Damn City had 31 shots

    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I swear the shot count is always high between the top sides and Leeds. A tipster I follow suggested that the MU drubbing of Leeds last season might hit a new shots record and he wasn't far off, I didn't go that far but think I bet on 36 match shots and it won, think Leeds had 4/5 today

  13. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    So, Foden rest at the weekend?

    1. Crouching Tiger
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Or 60/30 mins

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      You'd have to assume so

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Doubt it.

      5 days away yet, plus a weeks gap afterwards. Drowning in rest days.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Still be rested

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Of course, needs to be careful with that ankle

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            If that were true he wouldn't have gotten 90 minutes today.

            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 3 months ago

              You don't know Pep's rest plans!

    4. YEAH PITCH!
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Don't think so. We will see.

    5. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      He's the most rested City first team member atm

      He starts, unless he's gotten another knock

  14. Ginola
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    What to do with Sterling? I brought him in today but he's already on the chopping block.

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Grealish was great but have to keep and hope for Newcastle. Even 20 minutes.

      Reassess after.

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      So glad I made the decision 3 seasons agai never to have that troll in my side again haha

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        ago*

    3. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Should play weekend

    4. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Where did you bring him to?

  15. Crouching Tiger
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    30 from 3 (Foden, Watkins, Ederson). Took a -8 hit to bring on Watkins and Ederson for United guys. I think I've been quite lucky with hits lately...

    1. Crouching Tiger
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      *31

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Well played. Not easy to take a -8 as doesn’t always pay off like that

    3. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Great judgement!!

    4. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Thank you

    5. Feloh
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Impressive. On 24 from 3 myself.

    6. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Had Foden. Took a hit to bring in Watkins and Cash. Only Bilva spoilt my day. Still, up 63% today.

    7. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      1 from 1. Had a great night thanks.

  16. jammie26
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Any leeds fan in?

  17. Nanoelektronicar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Knee-jerked Gallagher in, although I was eying up Watkins all this time. Foden and a hit gives me red arrow tonight.

  18. Nightf0x
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    7 goals 1 point

  19. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    City's next game is 5 days away. Everyone would've had a good rest, so anyone can be benched

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      And a week of after!

  20. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is next week the week to not captain salah (spurs)?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Might be.

      People thought the same vs United though.

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Yeh I would captain cancello or foden as an alternative but probably chicken out!

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Cancelo is actually a very good shout

          1. Stranger Mings
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Think between salah, cancello & foden

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Spurs aren’t good defensively. Could go city but always the 1pt cameo risk there

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Yeh oh so very true

  21. Ballistics
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Raph outscoring Silva.

    Did Leeds win?

    1. The Ilfordian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Douglas Luiz matched them both put together. Mighty 3 pointer!

  22. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    I’ve had worst hits than Gilmour and Ronnie to Foden and Watkins 🙂 decent start!

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Well done mate. Glad you went for it!

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Was a tricky call but I fancied the hit this time. Ronnie back on WC possibly too

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Perfect! I’m not sure I’ll get ronaldo back. Thinking double city mids and stick with them despite the rotation

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Kind of agree. Loads of points in midfield. Only thing I’m considering is Ronaldo could be a nice Captain when Salah goes to AFCON.

  23. andre_c
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    What will happen when Torres comes back in the picture haha

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      will probably be at Barcelona

  24. jay01
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    2 (-4) from 1

    Anyone doing worse than me?

  25. FFSbet.com
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    31 from 3 any good?

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Average

    2. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Utter rubbish

    3. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Don't...

      1. FFSbet.com
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Damn right i will at 500k,finally good start

  26. Shark Team
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Pep will have to start one of KDB/Foden/Mahrez vs Newcastle. I hope it's Foden but I don't think so...

  27. Lord of Ings
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Reckon Gundogan gets the Newcastle game now?

  28. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    When your team wins 7-0 and Leeds' fans are singing.

  29. Boomerang V
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    this game was a nightmare for Cancelo/Bilva owners like myself 🙁

    at least I have Ollie 🙂

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Same here haha, so glad to of brought in Ollie!

    2. Old Bull
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Same

    3. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Same and had Martinez but still annoying my ML competition, who makes little effort compared to me, had Foden and Gundog.

  30. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    As a would be Sterling and BSilva buyer but forgot to do moves, I would have been licking my lips seeing 7-0 FT….